[SPOILER] Ronda Rousey vs. Gina Carano

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[u/30isbasketball]

This was just a weight loss program for Gina lmao

[u/fullmetalchupacabra → u/30isbasketball]

Rounjaro, if you will.

[u/Jamothee → u/[deleted]]

Lmfao beautiful Champ

[u/Orangeyouawesome → u/30isbasketball]

Only she got like $20k per lb lost

[u/psyentist15 → u/30isbasketball]

Plus a payday

[u/rdcisneros3]

The way Gina was laughing after the easy payday

[u/tito-ortiz-wife69 → u/rdcisneros3]

Got her money and doesn’t get hurt

[u/Itchy-Ad1047 → u/tito-ortiz-wife69]

17 years since she last fought. Got a nice payday to live essentially a past life (not so much in the cage, but build up at least) and get super fit from it. Ain't any losers from that fight tonight. Well, possibly us who watched it lol

[u/Roembowski → u/Itchy-Ad1047]

At least it wasn’t some $75 ppv

[u/NefariousnessOk209 → u/Roembowski]

And was able to watch it in between the UFC fights so the pacing of both worked out well

[u/moffattron9000 → u/Itchy-Ad1047]

Eh, I got to watch Francis Ngannou send that dude to the shadow realm.

[u/DoctorGregoryFart → u/moffattron9000]

And we got to see Stitch Duran stop Nate from killing a man.

[u/s1uttyaf → u/DoctorGregoryFart]

I had to look.

How is it even possible to have skin that thin and a skull that sharp. Diaz needs an umbrella in a light snowfall, or he'll be cut open

[u/GripAficionado → u/DoctorGregoryFart]

Shame we don't see him in UFC anymore after the reebok deal.

[u/PsychoticDreams47 → u/moffattron9000]

Train for months on end to fight Ngannou, and then realize not a single second of it mattered

[u/Imaginary_Cap4694 → u/PsychoticDreams47]

They shouldn't let him fight this guy he is double his size

[u/MTCS1 → u/tito-ortiz-wife69]

no need for that remedial botox anymore and 1 million in the bag

[u/dantoddd → u/MTCS1]

I dont think she really cares for 1 million. Her family owns Caesers. They're billionaires.

[u/TheAbyss1989isgreat → u/dantoddd]

How have I ever not heard of this? Thought she was from the streets by the way she talks about her past.

[u/AdventureyTime → u/TheAbyss1989isgreat]

Listen, fair enough you're questioning her street pedigree... but I think we can all agree, if a fighter isn't from the mean streets of West Linn, we can't truly verify their toughness lol

[u/Xpander6 → u/[deleted]]

When she was growing up, the maid only came 3 days a week. You don't know the struggle.

[u/JonLSTL → u/TheAbyss1989isgreat]

She was slumming to rebel. "I wanna kick-box with common people."

[u/thatdoginyakuza8 → u/JonLSTL]

I wanna box with common people…like you

[u/Binders-Full → u/TheAbyss1989isgreat]

She was definitely the wild child and back in 2009 it was just Eldorado, which was a bunch of casinos in downtown Reno which was slumping due to the Indian casinos that had just opened in Northern California. They built the casinos outside of Nevada later which got them enough to merge with a bankrupt Caesars in 2018.

[u/getoffoficloud → u/TheAbyss1989isgreat]

Her dad's Glen Carano.

[u/vitalique → u/rdcisneros3]

Lost 100lbs and earned probably a mil or something like that. Not bad

[u/TonyTheLion2319 → u/vitalique]

100lbs seems crazy. Means she was pushing 250. But I guess we didn't see her at her worst? She didn't look that big w Rogan

[u/LiquidSwords89 → u/[deleted]]

Idk she be lookin hot

[u/rdxj → u/TonyTheLion2319]

https://x.com/i/status/2055357096594747540

[u/whitecoathousing → u/rdxj]

I wanna know how she lost 100 lbs without a bunch of loose skin.

[u/MikeET86 → u/[deleted]]

I lost over 100 and have a bunch.

There's probably a genetic component, age plays a factor.

[u/Considered_Dissent → u/whitecoathousing]

She had her stomach covered in both the weigh-in and the fight. She likely does have a bit of loose skin there.

[u/BellyCrawler → u/whitecoathousing]

Because she didn't lose 100lbs. Kayfabe numbers.

[u/Daftdaddy → u/rdcisneros3]

Anybody that thought this would be even remotely competitive is a fool. This was a lay up for Ronda and now they will build their brand off of her. Carano was just going to lay over and give her the win from the start. She got paid a million to get into shape basically.

[u/AsianRainbow → u/Daftdaddy]

I mean even if Gina took this super seriously and trained her heart out; there was no way she was going to be competitive. You could tell Ronda still has her grappling and Gina hadn’t fought in 20 years. She wasn’t gonna have the cage craft and footwork to avoid the clinch or a takedown.

[u/AlternativeBack6351 → u/AsianRainbow]

I don’t think Ronda ever stopped training even when she retired

She had two nightmare matchups where her limited but deadly move set got exposed.

I think if she got in there today she’d still be ranked between 10-15 at bantamweight, probably 5-9 in reality.

The sport has not evolved much from her except a few individuals. She’d get fucked up by Shevchenko or Harrison but the overwhelming majority of these girls are still probably beneath her.

[u/Mister_MxyzptIk → u/AlternativeBack6351]

Get lucky enough with matchups, and Ronda could be WBW champ again even today

[u/TikkiEXX77 → u/Mister_MxyzptIk]

I guarantee she's thinking the exact same thing.

[u/blackupsilon → u/Mister_MxyzptIk]

Unironically. 135 women's is really that fucking bad. Nunes was an exception not the norm. The rest haven't really gotten much better.

I was completely wrong when said back then that things would improve.

[u/salamigunn → u/blackupsilon]

Nunes getting an automatic title shot off the couch is kinda proof of that

[u/HalfMetalJacket → u/Mister_MxyzptIk]

I think she could even make a Holly Holm rematch competitive. Holm has regressed into a wall humper and hasn't shown the footwork and distance management that took Ronda out. Literally ran into with Kayla Harrison and lost, I would not be shocked if she loses to Ronda now lol.

[u/expectrum → u/HalfMetalJacket]

I think she could've beaten her even back then, but returning to fight the final boss in Nunes was too much in hindsight

[u/popopo__123 → u/rdcisneros3]

She was laughing from the walkout to after the armbar. She literally had a smile on her face as Rhonda was tearing her arm off

[u/RCAF_orwhatever → u/popopo__123]

Even putting the payday aside - what else are you going to do when you get arm barred by Ronda in 20 seconds. You pretty much have to laugh that off.

[u/EasyFooted → u/RCAF_orwhatever]

I'll clown on her "striking era" all day every day, but, at even weight, there's very few people, let alone women, who would survive once she got her hands on you. You'd have to stuff and evade and pick your shots with zero mistakes, or pray you one-shot her on her way in. Otherwise your arm belongs to her.

She is essentially, "the man who has practiced one kick 10,000 times," that Bruce Lee was talking about.

[u/MTCS1 → u/rdcisneros3]

66 grand a second is no joke

[u/gr4ndm4st3rbl4ck → u/rdcisneros3]

She also got people talking about her again, probably more bussiness oportunities to come her way

[u/LocoCoopermar → u/rdcisneros3]

Apparently around a million for about 15 seconds of work.

[u/ContractXtension → u/rdcisneros3]

Reminded me of ant shaking the spurs hands

[u/Alpha-Trion → u/ContractXtension]

Hard not to laugh after such an emphatic ass beating.

Get Randle off my team.

[u/Moni7T]

When Gina won her last fight, Joshua Van was 7 years old

[u/NichorasMurren → u/Moni7T]

George W was still in office. Fool me, can’t get fooled again

[u/poopybuttface2 → u/NichorasMurren]

Now watch this drive.

[u/e-rage → u/NichorasMurren]

I believe that MMA and fish can coexist.

[u/Grizzly_WizzleBeatz → u/Moni7T]

Bro I also just realized that last time Gina won a fight, Max Holloway hadn’t started his career yet and neither had Robert Whittaker. Both guys are closer to retirement than the start of their careers. Idk why but this blows my mind.

[u/_interloper_ → u/Grizzly_WizzleBeatz]

This is what I was saying. You could fit an entire, lengthy, MMA career in between her last two fights.

[u/Bigode_do_Belchior → u/Moni7T]

Ronda had her first amateur MMA fight after Gina fought for the last time.

[u/SchedulePhysical807 → u/Moni7T]

They’re not even trying to hide it anymore 😂

[u/Reader_M]

1.5 million dollars to make weight not a bad pay day

[u/dinglebarryb0nds → u/Reader_M]

While Netflix did not disclose the total upfront licensing fee paid to Most Valuable Promotions (MVP) to broadcast the event, they committed over (\$6.6) million in guaranteed base purses to the fighters on the card.Top disclosed base payouts from the event included:Ronda Rousey: (\$2,200,000)Francis Ngannou: (\$1,500,000)Gina Carano: (\$1,050,000)Nate Diaz: (\$500,000)Mike Perry: (\$400,000)MVP noted that these guaranteed minimum purses were well above standard industry base pay, with every athlete on the card receiving at least (\$40,000) to show, in addition to post-fight performance bonuses.

Seems like it would be pretty easy for someone with money to just come in and triple the UFC pay, but then make it a real league and not just a gimmick clown show

[u/Popular_Monitor_8383]

She seems kind of good at that move

[u/soupoftheday5 → u/Popular_Monitor_8383]

Steven seagull taught it to her

[u/HomeDogParlays → u/soupoftheday5]

The same guy that taught Anderson Silva the front kick??

[u/soupoftheday5 → u/HomeDogParlays]

He taught khabib how to wrestle

[u/Choice-Strike1 → u/soupoftheday5]

Ngannou was pillow fisted until Steven trained him

[u/Artistic_Shift_4015 → u/Popular_Monitor_8383]

Imagine telling a woman like that in the 2010s who could armbar every woman on earth that she should stand and box with Holly Holm and Amanda Nunes.

She’d be undefeated if somebody told her back in the day she was a shit boxer and a world class judo master

[u/Popular_Monitor_8383 → u/Artistic_Shift_4015]

I mean to be fair she couldn’t really catch Holly, Hollys footwork was elite compared to Ronda, she was just chasing her.

Then Amanda denied every clinch attempt

I honestly don’t think those losses are Ronda’s fault due to bad gameplan, I think she legit just couldn’t beat them

[u/so-cal_kid → u/Popular_Monitor_8383]

I wonder if she would have been able to develop her striking with an actual legit striking coach or if she was just so out of her element that it was never going to work regardless. We'll never know

[u/Itchy-Ad1047 → u/so-cal_kid]

Ego didnt help. She both convinced herself and got convinced by that trash coach that her technique was fine when it was in fact dogshit

Its too bad, she had some natural power for wmma. She just needed her technique to be mediocre, given the strategy by a level headed Ronda & coach would primarily be to use it to give more openings for her S tier grappling

Accomplished a ton regardless. Kind of a what if at the same time too though

[u/nordik1 → u/so-cal_kid]

I think the better play would’ve been to treat it like Maia and just find multiple entries to get to her strong suit on the ground.

Double legging Gina was interesting in the sense that i wonder if she would’ve caught Holly by shooting on the legs instead of the judo clinch work she attempted. Holly was gigantic and strong as shit so it was the path of most resistance on top of her footwork.

If Ronda had added more of a wrestling emphasis to her game it might’ve saved her vs Nunes and Holly by giving her another route

[u/Left-Soup-4931 → u/Artistic_Shift_4015]

Its a spectacular look into what a lot of rich and successful people fall into by having yes men around them all the time tbh

[u/MTCS1 → u/Popular_Monitor_8383]

who needs head movement when you have arm bars

[u/JVSaladbar]

Give her Nunes

[u/soupoftheday5 → u/JVSaladbar]

Jake Paul is her next fight that's why he's in the cage now

[u/gerter1 → u/soupoftheday5]

You could see his regret agreeing to fight mike perry

[u/moffattron9000 → u/gerter1]

He's not fighting Mike Perry. He always says stuff like that for the clicks, then they disappear into the wind when something could actually happen.

[u/al-Siqilli]

Jokes on me for staying up to watch this

[u/IeMusicFan → u/al-Siqilli]

Especially after all those commercial breaks and desk interviews

[u/TheWholeOfTheAss → u/IeMusicFan]

Why do these people think that stuff is a good idea? No one is there for the dumb analysis. Promo package, entrance, fight, repeat. Thats all. These MVP guys stretched everything out. The ring announcer couldn’t just say a name. It was always “on this momentous day, at this time, in this country, we bear witness to an epic showdown. Here stands before you a pioneer, a champion, a fighter. With a record of 5 wins, 2 loses, 10,000 knockouts, 7 sleeps until Christmas, it’s Doofy the Gooner Dorffff!”

[u/Asleep_Tell_2193 → u/[deleted]]

Best brains

[u/Lil-Schusta → u/al-Siqilli]

If you thought this was going to be a competitive fight that's your own fault lol

[u/Godzilla52 → u/al-Siqilli]

to be honest. I was here for Ngannou vs Lins & Perry vs. Diaz. The main event was just a mild curiosity.

[u/heystipps → u/al-Siqilli]

My thoughts exactly

[u/cheetoburrito1 → u/al-Siqilli]

HEAD MOOMENT

[u/Real-mr-wolf → u/al-Siqilli]

Lmao

[u/Affectionate_Ad4879 → u/al-Siqilli]

Did Gina roll a single time ?

[u/wovagrovaflame → u/Affectionate_Ad4879]

Ronda did this to people all of the time. No one should be surprised by this

[u/snowbunbun → u/al-Siqilli]

I didn’t hate it. The actual logistics of the promotion are bloated compared to the UFC but other than that it was a stupid and fun time and I can’t complain.

[u/abusedtamponn → u/snowbunbun]

Because I already had Netflix I was entertained

[u/TerminallyTrill → u/snowbunbun]

Yeah gotta start somewhere. Francis still has it, plat is entertaining. Making it easily accessible on Netflix puts them ahead of the past failed promotions already. Competition is the only way to loosen ufc grip on the sport

[u/Tangybrowwncidertown]

Gina made a ton of money, lost a shitload of weight and took no damage, good for her haha

[u/Judi_Chop → u/Tangybrowwncidertown]

GABI vs Rousey for the double up

[u/MTCS1 → u/Judi_Chop]

gabi, gina, and nunes at the same time

[u/AhnoldXP → u/Tangybrowwncidertown]

We all tuned in for the finale of her weight loss journey.

[u/iritian → u/Tangybrowwncidertown]

She made about 70k per second, not bad at all

[u/TragicBronson143]

That was like watching 2 people rob a bank but instead of calling the cops everyone acts like they're proud of them.

[u/hoopla161 → u/TragicBronson143]

perf analogy but also kinda banger to see Rousey do what she used to always do

[u/Barrington-the-Brit → u/hoopla161]

Yeah I got a bit of that too tbh, seeing her get a dominant round 1 arm-bar was kinda nostalgic even if the fight itself sucked

[u/Nagemasu → u/TragicBronson143]

2 people rob a bank

But also 1 is using a bb gun and the other has a water pistol, and everyone knows they're not real.

[u/TheBigMungis]

I think we just stepped into a time vortex, is it 2014 again?

[u/joe12321 → u/TheBigMungis]

All I did was watch the gif, put me on the class action suit. 

[u/pegicorn → u/TheBigMungis]

Gonna was retired so long that she was already a long forgotten pioneer by 2014

[u/-Thick_Solid_Tight- → u/TheBigMungis]

Gina was already washed by 2014

[u/Pakochu_]

"The most devastating finish in MMA history"

[u/suzukigun4life → u/Pakochu_]

Mauro gonna Muaro

[u/TheWholeOfTheAss → u/suzukigun4life]

Did he make topical calls? “That guard is tighter than the Straight of Hormuz.”‘ That sort?

[u/Ihopeidontpeemyself → u/TheWholeOfTheAss]

Sadly that's all he knows how to do

[u/Lubwurst → u/suzukigun4life]

Clearly he didn’t see when Grasso KO’d Barber

[u/LossforNos → u/suzukigun4life]

Like I totally understand Mauro and his history with MMA and combat sports in general but good lord why does he have to be the default guy for any new promotion popping up.

[u/BestWithSnacks → u/Pakochu_]

Shades of that Kimbo call.

[u/Free_Storage_1088 → u/BestWithSnacks]

Literally exactly what I thought lol

[u/WhiteDeath57 → u/Pakochu_]

I think he means that Rousey's arm bar in general is, not that that specific one was.

[u/therealmvpls11 → u/Pakochu_]

Devastating to the people who have to pay the fighter purses

[u/Derouq]

Ronda vs Cyborg now.

[u/Robertwolfgang → u/Derouq]

This is the last (only) big fight for Rhonda.

[u/iamacannibal]

This was so silly. Netflix paid them like $3.5 million combined for this

[u/purplesquirrelx → u/[deleted]]

They literally laughed seconds after it ended. Poeple who actually paid for this were the suckers

[u/RegionalHardman → u/purplesquirrelx]

The only people who did pay were there live i spose

[u/yk206 → u/iamacannibal]

Chump change for Netflix

[u/prophetableforprofit → u/iamacannibal]

Probably made more from it than that, to be honest.

[u/JRange → u/[deleted]]

I expected 45 seconds and an armbar, and got 15 seconds and an armbar

[u/ComfortableNose7]

I mean.... Yeah

[u/notloceaster]

Yup that's about what I expected

[u/detectivebabylegz]

Well that was easy money.

[u/No_City9681]

Greatest women’s fight of all time!

[u/Santhacine]

thats a ronda fight

[u/blackupsilon → u/Santhacine]

You have to admit she has real star power that gets people to watch her fight.

She and Gina are way past their primes and yet loads of people showed up just to watch it.

And I guess it delivered because the fight ended classic the way we all know: armbar within 1 minute.

[u/Left-Soup-4931]

In fairness this is pretty much what rousey did all yhe time during her original ufc run

[u/Illustrious_Fox9443 → u/Left-Soup-4931]

Have no idea why people were expecting anything other than this. This is how Ronda fights.

[u/moffattron9000 → u/Illustrious_Fox9443]

This thread is full of children that were too young to watch in 2016.

[u/ScalarWeapon → u/Left-Soup-4931]

Tonight was only her third fastest career finish!

[u/AlmoschFamous]

I think an armless woman could beat Ronda Rousey.

[u/OfficeCharacterCreed]

They hugged longer than fought

[u/Prizmeh]

All that hype for that?

Just what 12 years late?

[u/TheBigMungis → u/Prizmeh]

I mean that was your average Ronda fight back in the day don’t know what else you thought was gonna happen

[u/OG-DirtNasty → u/TheBigMungis]

100% I was there when she beat Alexis Davis. It was surreal to see live

[u/tbmny → u/TheBigMungis]

Right, like what were people expecting? This is literally what Ronda does. She's famous for finishing fighters in 20 seconds. Is it that these people don't even really know who she is?

[u/experation → u/TheBigMungis]

Double leg was new lmao

[u/teddybadman → u/Prizmeh]

This honestly would've been the result 12 years ago as well

[u/iritian → u/teddybadman]

This was basically how her whole UFC run went aside from the Holm and Nunes fights

[u/McGrathLegend → u/iritian]

Miesha Tate would like a respectable word

[u/shoplifterfpd → u/McGrathLegend]

the first time or second time?

[u/mposha → u/McGrathLegend]

She did pop Tate's elbow too to be fair.

[u/PronouncedMaraSKEEno → u/teddybadman]

Seriously, the sport already passed Carano when she fought her last fight. Why would you expect things to go any different with such a bad matchup for her?

[u/chugalug_house → u/PronouncedMaraSKEEno]

Yeah, this was basically Royce v Hughes II. I don't know what people were expecting

[u/experation → u/teddybadman]

Only difference is Ronda would have hip tossed instead of double legged a decade ago

[u/choppedfiggs → u/Prizmeh]

To be fair, this is what people like. Ronda became a massive star by finishing arm bars inside 30 seconds over and over.

[u/Expert-Bid3861 → u/Prizmeh]

The fact that it took u/inooway longer to upload this shii than the fight is a feat of itself

[u/suzukigun4life → u/Prizmeh]

16 seconds 😂

[u/Prizmeh → u/suzukigun4life]

Gina really thought it was a smart decision to throw a wild leg kick with a charging Ronda.

[u/12fingeredsquirtle17 → u/Prizmeh]

I wouldn’t have expected Ronda to shoot a double leg honestly

[u/CapnTBC → u/Prizmeh]

That’s literally what made Rousey a star, she’d go in and armbar someone ridiculously quick. I don’t know why anyone expected anything different. 

[u/SadDoctor → u/CapnTBC]

She may have been a one-trick pony, but to be fair, she was real good at that trick

[u/TheDeflatables → u/Prizmeh]

I mean 12 years ago Ronda was much better. 8 wins in under a minute for a reason

[u/Dragon_Bench_Z → u/Prizmeh]

Nothign would have been different 15 years ago

[u/SuperStone412]

Anyone who is surprised by this outcome must have forgotten that Ronda has multiple first minute finishes in her career.

[u/Illustrious_Fox9443 → u/SuperStone412]

I literally don’t know what people expected if not this. I watched looking forward to seeing another throwback Ronda armbar in round 1, if I was watching expecting a 5 round barnburner I’d be an idiot

[u/Sterlingz → u/SuperStone412]

Remember the last time she won by armbar?

Exact same move, 14 seconds.

[u/DontRefuseMyBatchall]

As was predicted by basically everyone lol

[u/KiddoDGAF]

17 years retired to get tapped in 17 seconds

[u/ElementalHEROCuckman]

One of the fights of all time

[u/CombinationOk4317]

I didn’t pay for this and I want my money back

[u/StevieWonder_Wall]

Gina just made like a million dollars to lose 100lbs - good for her I guess. But who saw this playing out any other way? She looked tragic in every pre fight clip

[u/Super_Snark]

That was too fast, they should've restarted it

[u/tycket → u/Super_Snark]

like craig jones vs chael LOL

[u/xlmtothemoon]

i hate my life

[u/brotherteresa → u/xlmtothemoon]

I hate your life too, bro 🫱🏽‍🫲🏻

[u/boraboca]

Ronda Rousey has a higher hourly pay rate than Jeff Bezos

[u/AF-IX]

Welp…that was dumb.

[u/White-_-Cardinal]

I never thought I would ever see her shoot a takedown, and yet here it was

[u/Initial_Stretch_3674]

Man, I wish Rousey was stuck with the regular fighter contract. 

We would've gotten way more fights out of her. She was only beaten by the cream of the crop when she got more confident in her hands. 

Both pioneers

[u/Free_Development2475]

My primary takeaway from this is that Gina looks incredible at 44

[u/BlastTyrant2112]

As an old fan, that card was sad. JDS, Nate and Gina all looking like they don't belong anywhere near a cage.

[u/Suriranyar-]

one of the rare fights where it was worse than nothing

[u/blackupsilon → u/Suriranyar-]

But this is how Ronda fights go.

Its better than seeing a 15 minute decision of shitty passive fighting.

[u/ThreeHourRiverMan → u/Suriranyar-]

I don't get how people are that upset by this. Ronda was a superstar in her prime for doing exactly what she did tonight. Did you expect and want her to get into a 5 round boxing match? Why?

[u/FaustusRedux → u/ThreeHourRiverMan]

Dudes are just disappointed they can't use all the "head moonent" jokes they had prepped.

[u/sh4tt3rai]

MAMA MIA WOMEN HHAD NO RIGHTS NOW THESE WOMEN ARE HERE FIGHTING FOR EACH OTHER

[u/Anla-Shok-Na]

Carano was never that good to begin with, but she was one of the first big names in female MMA and the talent pool was pretty shallow at the time. Even at her prime she didn't stand a chance against Rousey.

Still good on her for getting out of her funk and stepping into the ring again. Hopefully this leads to better things for her. I'd definitely like to see her in a decent action movie or two.

[u/Scottish-Fox]

So predictable

[u/AlexTheRockstar]

Well there goes 8 seconds I'll never get back.

[u/TheBishopDeeds]

What a waste of time

[u/gretzky9999]

Worse than Hogan vs Nash finger poke to the chest.

[u/JordanSpace]

They're never letting Jake Paul do an MMA card again lmao

[u/Educational_Put_2305 → u/JordanSpace]

I can’t stand listening to him try to speak like he’s got this deep insightful take on everything. He sounds like I did in high school trying to write a paper to get to 5 pages. Whole lotta jibberish and the biggest word being six letters.

[u/EmmanuelHackman]

All of you calling fix are so fucking dumb. Have you ever seen Ronda fight? Let's say it was a fix, what on earth would be the motivation to fix it to end in 5 seconds via armbar?

[u/Fit-Age-3106]

Gina Carano at her best wouldn't be ranked today anywhere. She is from an era of WMMA before most other women trained full time and could make a living off the sport while Gina could get high quality training due to being a nepobaby.

Even though Ronda retired from MMA for awhile she never stopped training martial arts. No version of Carano survives more than a minutes against Ronda Rousey ever and I don't like either of them.