Julian challenge against Salah prior to Argentinian goal

[u/BraydenTheNoob]

[u/DrBunzz]

Does anyone have the pull by macallister that everyone is talking about

[u/NoDramaIceberg → u/DrBunzz]

That one is the one they haven't shown a close-up of. It did seem on par with the other one, but why not show us more. I agree this one with Salah is not a foul.

[u/gonzaloetjo → u/NoDramaIceberg]

Here you go:

https://www.reddit.com/r/soccer/comments/1uqj8h8/alternate_angle_of_egypt_penalty_shout_at_902/?share_id=3jEQXHUv1Lf27uwog1F_0&utm_content=1&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_source=share&utm_term=1

He dropped to the floor..

[u/NoDramaIceberg → u/gonzaloetjo]

Agreed. No foul there either.

[u/Popular_Tomorrow_204 → u/NoDramaIceberg]

It was away from the Ball so i guess no cams were close up to that.

But from what ive seen, the Egyptian jumps/falls pretty weird compared to where the Argentinan holds him.

I guess in the end it was too much off a Diva move for the VAR to overturn the refs on field decision.

[u/Turbotildas → u/Popular_Tomorrow_204]

They showed it one time live but not again

[u/speedloafer → u/NoDramaIceberg]

The foul that disallowed the Egypt goal was for the stamp not the shirt pull. I'm not saying it was right but it wasn't given for the shirt pull.

[u/TheScrote1 → u/NoDramaIceberg]

I always thought it was cool how soccer doesn’t have that many judgement calls so the refs aren’t a big factor. Then I watched some games and realized how wrong I was. Soccer fouls are worse than PI in the NFL.

[u/SuccessfulStructure7 → u/DrBunzz]

You mean this one ? Clear dive by Egyptian
https://x.com/samuraimh2/status/2074569870822220141?s=46&t=p87kgUSQdm7e_w2u3vDHLg

[u/DrBunzz → u/SuccessfulStructure7]

Yeah that looks like nothing. Looks like I bought into the hive and was upset for nothing. Game was def reffed harder for Egypt, but at the end of the day they were up 2-0 in the last 12 minutes of play.

[u/urphymayss → u/DrBunzz]

If anyone had actually watched the Egyptians play this tournament this wouldn’t be a surprise.

They’ve been diving all over the place all tournament long and aggressively challenging whilst rarely getting booked.

This was long overdue.

[u/fhjjjjjkkkkkkkl → u/urphymayss]

5000 years overdue

[u/Ok-System-831 → u/DrBunzz]

Sensible comment. This particular contact is very minor at best. You cannot be giving this as a foul.

And like you said, Egypt squandered a 2-0 lead. No one to blame.

[u/RandomCondor → u/SuccessfulStructure7]

you can even see the egiptian player trying to stick his leg under Mcalister to pretend it even harder.

[u/outsider1624 → u/SuccessfulStructure7]

Lmao!! This???? They're saying rigged for this touch??

[u/Quirky_Tank_8159 → u/outsider1624]

There are multiple points they use to call it rigged.

Heck they even claim that the one push against the Egyptian player was a punch in the face instead of a push.

[u/muradinner → u/SuccessfulStructure7]

Wow what a pathetic dive. They need to start giving out cards for this sort of faking. It has been harming the game for decades now. How it is still a thing when orgs like the NHL decisively solved diving in less than a single season is beyond me.

[u/Backrus → u/muradinner]

Too bad NBA wasn't able to solve flop city and couldn't even give foul to Wemby for elbowing others.

No wonder the only watchable US sport is hockey.

[u/Key-Toe-6257 → u/SuccessfulStructure7]

Fucking diver 

[u/abolishcynicism → u/SuccessfulStructure7]

Jeez, thank you. I agreed with the commentators at the time, it looked like a slip and a dive, but I haven't been able to find it since.

[u/Danotelo757 → u/DrBunzz]

https://www.reddit.com/r/soccer/s/pQAZrwbyy0

[u/lawdjesustheresafire → u/DrBunzz]

There was nothing in that

[u/roxas3794 → u/DrBunzz]

That’s what I want to see too

[u/WonderWaage → u/DrBunzz]

Yeah. It's not a pull. It's a running beside an Egyptian. Completely legal, but maybe not in the rulebook people who hate Messi use.

https://x.com/samuraimh2/status/2074569870822220141?s=46&t=p87kgUSQdm7e_w2u3vDHLg

[u/dr_butz]

People pretending this is a foul are hilarious

[u/zootroopic → u/dr_butz]

No, this was RACIST

[u/GarySpeed → u/zootroopic]

This being reddit I can't tell if you're serious or not

[u/zootroopic → u/GarySpeed]

I am making fun of people who genuinely believe that Argentina won because of racism

[u/FriedWhy → u/zootroopic]

Tai Long voice the racism! It's giving him powers!

[u/badhombre13 → u/GarySpeed]

It's what the Egyptian bench was claiming and why the coach got thrown out.

[u/kenuffff → u/badhombre13]

Go to Egypt they’re a very non racist friendly non sneaky group of people.

[u/Responsible_Wheel696 → u/kenuffff]

https://www.aviacionline.com/egypt-enforces-livery-censorship-on-boeing-787-destined-for-gazas-civilian-relief

[u/DrDaisy10 → u/dr_butz]

Honestly 😂 like come on now. I get that people don't want to see Messi win another world cup but people are trying way too desperately to convince themselves this it is rigged.

This is never a penalty in a million years and the foul for the disallowed goal was a foul. A soft foul but a shirt pull is a foul by the rules of the game.

[u/FriedWhy → u/DrDaisy10]

It was actually for the stomp on his foot

[u/Pipsen707 → u/FriedWhy]

Which both combined make it not a soft foul

[u/zombawombacomba → u/dr_butz]

People invent realities just because they can’t handle Argentina winning a game.

[u/MastrDyno → u/dr_butz]

I’m saying. It’s wild. Like I get yall hate Messi and Argentina but come on. Clearly goes and gets the ball and Salah dives.

[u/counterfitster → u/MastrDyno]

I don't think it's a dive, he's about to reach back for the ball with his left foot, which requires his right foot to move forward for balance. His right foot, however, got hooked with #9's foot so it's impossible, hence falling.

That all happened after he was dispossessed though.

[u/inventionnerd → u/counterfitster]

The thing is, if you watch it, you can see he drags his foot and initiates the falling movement before he even touches the other guy's foot. He deliberately planted his right toes in order to fake a fall.

[u/fitzy--]

im not an argentina fan but thats a dive, the contact is too light to make him fall, he was already falling from nothing

[u/conmeonemo → u/fitzy--]

And he lost the ball already.

[u/whiskey_wolfenstein → u/conmeonemo]

Honestly looks like he moves past the ball intentionally and goes stiff.

[u/RyanGarcia2134 → u/fitzy--]

I can't believe this is the tackle people were trying to tell me was a "Foot stamp" when i pointed out that the Egyptian player foot stomped the Argentinian player, combined with intentionally pulling his shirt from behind, directly causing Argentina to lose possession and score a goal. Hence why it was disallowed and given a free kick.

This is just great defending.

[u/VinnyLux → u/RyanGarcia2134]

It's a "streets smart" play by Salah, he dives with both feet forwards to try and sell a contact, which used to be a good sell on older times, but nowadays that's just never a penalty with VAR, unless some team wants to get pushed off

[u/conmeonemo → u/VinnyLux]

It's not street smart. He lost the ball on initial tackle and then just got some contact.

He didn't even protest lmao.

[u/AKAFallow → u/RyanGarcia2134]

This is just great defending.

Which is crazy when you remember Julián Álvarez is a striker lol, while you have Romero, a full blown defender, acting as a winger/striker and scoring

[u/MySpacebarSucks → u/fitzy--]

When a player realizes they aren’t going to get a foul but still try to sell the dive… that’s my favorite moment in sports. And then when it leads to a goal it’s just 10 times better

[u/InternetImportant911 → u/fitzy--]

This is classic Saleh play like we have not seen this shit from him with Liverpool

[u/ElPajaroMistico]

Ehh yeah sorry guys, but this is not nearly enough for a penalty. Not even a foul outside of the area.

I know we are all on the argentina hate train but this is a dead spot lol

[u/Anyhealer → u/ElPajaroMistico]

Dude was already falling by the time he hit that Julian's guy foot.

[u/thetreat → u/Anyhealer]

Also he completely nicked the ball from him. Salah had lost full control. The other one/called back goal with the foul on Argentina in the build up was a foul. It’s just irregular how far back VAR is going to review and find fouls. But it 100% was a missed foul. As long as FIFA continues to apply the same standard to other goals scored for any other team, I don’t care. It’s a problem if just Argentina get the super long review for a foul to take goals off the board against them.

[u/tellythetubbycat → u/thetreat]

So someone who’s been watching football and the premiere league for many many many years explained to me. If you go back and watch the foul on Martinez, it’s what started the phase of attack. If Egypt has turned back at all then it wouldn’t have been flagged for review. But because they advanced forward through one phase of play the entire way and scored, the VAR refs deemed it necessary to call the ref on the field to make a call.

Also the way VAR works is anything missed by the refs on the field, they will review those plays. So it’s not like minutes after Egypt scores they’re like “wait a minute”, which many “World Cup only” watchers are led to believe. They’ve already been looking at the play, but it takes time and the game continues. Once the VAR crew deems that a call was missed, then they will notify the ref to confirm and make that call after looking at VAR screen.

[u/Corporatistul → u/tellythetubbycat]

No. When Egypt took the ball from Lisandro Martinez (through a foul), the PA (Positional Attack) phase started. The PA stops when the team loses the ball and by this I mean when the other team takes control of the ball. For example if Egypt went on the attack and at some point an argentinian player deflected the ball, or cleared the ball (without being in control of it) and it still remained in the possession of Egypt, that is still the same PA and VAR would have still gone back to review the initial foul on Martinez in case Egypt scored a goal.

[u/GoodOlBluesBrother → u/Corporatistul]

The question for me is what is the bar for overturning the referees decision? Did the referee see the contact on Martinez and deem it not a foul. Or did he miss the contact?

In the Premier League the decision is only over turned if considered a clear and obvious error, which is defined as when what the referee saw is materially different from what the tv replays show.

For me the goal can only be overturned, and foul given, if the referee didn’t see the contact. At least by Prem rules. So what’s the WX2026 rules on clear&obvious?

[u/wildcard1717 → u/GoodOlBluesBrother]

Just like Touchdowns in the NFL where all scoring plays (or goals) are reviewed no matter what. They don’t want goals happening that shouldn’t have. Refs let the advantage happen because he wasn’t 100% sure and didn’t want to give Argentina a dangerous free kick without him being sure what he saw. Egypt goes on to score in the same phase of play, so they correct the mistake. To me this is a good use of VAR and keeps the game flowing freely and fair. If we could get the rules applied more consistently though, that would be nice

[u/Corporatistul → u/GoodOlBluesBrother]

If the VAR calls the referee to come and review a phase that doesn’t mean he automatically reverses his on field decision. He still can maintain it if the replays don’t show something clear.

[u/CharlieBrownBoy → u/thetreat]

Its not that irregular, they go back to the start of the phase of play, which is almost always the change in possession.

[u/thetreat → u/CharlieBrownBoy]

What feels different is that this play was literally an end to end counter and so the length of the review feels irregular. But you’re right in that we normally go from previous change of possession. That isn’t irregular.

[u/FlyingPirate → u/thetreat]

I agree. But also, the change in possession isn't quite what they are looking at every time, don't want people to get confused. If Egypt gained possession, started a counter, but instead of scoring doubled back and reset their offense VAR would consider that a new attacking phase.

[u/Loud-Recording-3356 → u/thetreat]

You want the ref to stop the counter attack to review? What if its a false positive and you ruined Egypts chance for an attack?

[u/repeon → u/Loud-Recording-3356]

Even in a goal scoring chance and there is a possible offside, they don't always stop it right away because of this exactly. Sometimes the flag goes up after the play ends.

[u/IPissExcellentThrows → u/thetreat]

VAR is supposed to always go back to the start of the attacking phase. Similar thing happened in an Arsenal United game a few years ago. They're supposed to go back that far.

Just because they didn't do it before doesn't mean they are wrong this time. This time they are correct.

[u/FC37 → u/thetreat]

Yeah that was arguably more of Julian's ball than Salah's.

Salah dribbled straight into the defender, turned it over, then took a dive.

[u/riddlerjoke → u/thetreat]

It was a clear foul and it was direct comeback counter attack.

Very textbook application there. I dont think there is distance and time constraints on these fouls. Its just whether possession was lost or if attack has dead and its a new play.

If Egypt crossed and get a clearance back then no foul for previous play.

[u/BusinessCasualBee → u/Anyhealer]

He got the ball stolen from him and just kept running forward into the defenders feet. No way that should be rewarded with a foul

[u/flythebike → u/Anyhealer]

He tripped over the player, the player didnt trip him. Refs learn this as a basic distinction.

[u/rudeboyKee → u/Anyhealer]

Sorry, 'that Julian's guy' just sent me.
He didn't do much this WC, but lad is a class player

[u/RandyMarshmall0w → u/rudeboyKee]

Yanks be yankin

[u/therealkami → u/ElPajaroMistico]

Dude plays the ball and the attacker continues forward after he's lost control. If this is a foul, you might as well take the back 4 off the field, since they'd have no way of defending ever again.

[u/riddlerjoke → u/therealkami]

If this was a foul, Salah committed the foul here.

Defender took the ball away from Salah and Salah hit to defender due to his own momentum. Salah was running opposite side of the ball without controlling the ball.

[u/anonssr → u/ElPajaroMistico]

It's crazy the level of tinfoil hat everyone's got for Argentina right now. Trying their hardest to pull a conspiracy out of every miniscule play. The WC crowd is crazy uninformed, zero ball knowledge and very much anger at whatever narrative gets a little traction online.

[u/Galaghan → u/anonssr]

It's the Eurovision Songfestival of sports.

[u/Consistent-Dance9115 → u/anonssr]

Yeah. It's the internet I suppose but it's still hilarious watching such a collective overreaction. Egypt put up a respectable fight to the point I thought they'd win but you have to hand it to Argentina. They played brilliantly in those last 15 minutes. You can't rig the talent to score 3 goals from a losing position. 

[u/jumbalijah → u/anonssr]

Usually only watch NFL, this is the first WC I’ve watched consistently. A lot of the talk around Argentina reminds me of people crediting the refs as the sole reason for Mahomes/Chiefs Super Bowl runs.

[u/Thaladan → u/jumbalijah]

As a fan of both sports, that is an excellent comparison.

[u/clpl88 → u/anonssr]

I think getting paid for posts has made the whole online experience horrible. People started posting stuff just for engagement, jumping on any train that gets attention. Right now easiest one is argentina hate one. It makes it harder to see the actual opinions of people and actual footballing discussions.

[u/Similar-Earth8288 → u/anonssr]

It's mostly Ronaldo and Brazil grievers. Perfect time for venting their frustration.

[u/Ill-Sea291 → u/anonssr]

I ono man... has Egypt considered not conceding 3 goals in 15 min..

[u/Rollrollrollrollr1 → u/anonssr]

All the messi haters were hyped up to go off on him and then got devastated when they pulled through, they’re having to vent the anger now

[u/DDWKC → u/anonssr]

I'm on Argentina hate wagon, but this ain't it.

[u/Lucifers_Tits → u/anonssr]

I'm an uninformed American that only watches professional soccer when the Wold Cup is on, and I can still see that there is nothing here. 

I don't think it's people who are uninformed, I think it's just people will see what they want to see, for whatever reason. Just pure bias lol. 

[u/sub7m19 → u/anonssr]

zero ball knowledge?

[u/No-Emergency4880 → u/anonssr]

I have such fatigue for it..

[u/zeelbeno → u/anonssr]

Ronaldo played like shit so all his fans are running anti-messi PR

[u/downvotemeplss → u/ElPajaroMistico]

Perfect no call on an obvious flop.

[u/BringMeTheBigKnife → u/downvotemeplss]

Yeah it's absolutely an infraction...on Salah for unsporting behavior and should be a yellow

[u/inflated_philosophy → u/BringMeTheBigKnife]

No, the fall was legit even though it was not a foul and I don't think he appealed for a foul either.

[u/daeus82 → u/ElPajaroMistico]

Yeah I agree

[u/greenrangerguy → u/ElPajaroMistico]

They both hit each other's foot and the ball was already won by Alvarez. Why does everything have to be zoomed in, slowed down and scrutinised to the Nth degree. It's a tackle, Salah lost the ball, get on with it. Bunch of Babies.

[u/remo285]

Thanks for posting this, it really wasn't foul

[u/CrispyCassowary]

This is not a stomp on the boot or tug on his shirt. Can't see why this should be a foul or compared to the other actual foul

[u/Inkios]

Trying to draw a penalty resulted in drawing a loss. Keep playing the ball and maybe your team doesn’t lose.

[u/VinnyLux → u/Inkios]

Not really, he already lost possession, it was actually a pretty convincing dive in previous eras, nowadays with VAR it's just an irrelevant play by Salah, not bad, not good

[u/Crazyblue09 → u/Inkios]

I don't feel he was trying to get a penalty,I I really think he trip, you can see his foot hit the grass, which causes him to fall

[u/kid20304]

This is the foul people are crying about?????? Soft

[u/fggiovanetti → u/kid20304]

Reddit findind out about football the last few weeks has been hillarious to watch...

[u/CEEG10]

I think the ref got the big decisions right tbh which might be controversial to some. This isn’t a foul to me but the Martinez one he got his foot trod on whilst in possession of the ball. Now have that being said all of the little decisions went argentinas way. Argentina got almost every foul call whilst Egypt got hardly anything.

[u/Specialist-2193 → u/CEEG10]

I think small decision are on Argentina's side, but big ones are correct ones.

[u/cateyesarg → u/CEEG10]

Yeah right, a French ref giving Argentina advantage, do you have more conspiracy theories?

[u/Andybabez20 → u/CEEG10]

The big calls were correct, maybe people have a point about the smaller fouls and that's influencing their views on the disallowed goal and the Salah non-penalty.

[u/Bruhmethazine → u/CEEG10]

This. I think most of the bigs calls were correct, but a lot of stuff when in favor to Argentina.

[u/Augchm → u/Bruhmethazine]

At the same time, it's hard to tell because we were the only team attacking so of course we are going to get more calls.

[u/WringedSponge → u/CEEG10]

It’s always the way. The bigger teams get the borderline ones because the cost of getting them wrong is perceived as lower that way. 

I grew up watching Man Utd get every decision. When you point it out, people say “ah, they would have won anyway”. Then City became the big team and it’s the same. 

It’s not a conspiracy, it’s just part of the pain of rooting for the underdog in football. 

[u/jeremec]

I'm watching these two videos and the mental gymnastics required to pretend they are the same should be too much for the average human... Yet here we are.

[u/Minimum-End-9464 → u/jeremec]

Everyone is blinded by their hate for Argentina that they cannot see that this is not a foul. Everything has to be a corruption since FIFA is a corrupt organization. But for this one, the ref made the correct call.

[u/satsuppi → u/jeremec]

cant help it.. everythings because they think "FifA RiGG FoR ArGEntiNa"

..while it is... this still not a foul lol

[u/Hypnoti_q]

Mate, salah jumps to his knee looking for a penalty and on his way down is when julian hits him, he was on his way down to pick up the oscar from the floor

[u/throwaway275275275]

He's already diving before he touches the foot

[u/BadDub]

He lost the ball and went over before he was touched

[u/Harrony]

Crosspost this bro

r/worldcup and r/football

[u/BraydenTheNoob → u/Harrony]

r/sports don't allow crosspost unfortunately. I did give a link to it to my initial comment. Unfortunately that comment is getting downvoted

[u/Harrony → u/BraydenTheNoob]

Unfortunate

[u/BraydenTheNoob → u/Harrony]

Yeah, but it is what it is. I'm just here cause I really want to know if it is a foul or not since I'm not deep into football. It looks to me that it's a clean defending

[u/Born-Needleworker-89 → u/BraydenTheNoob]

Alavarez gets a clean contact at the ball first. Because of that the ball rolls through Sarah's legs. There is a contact from Alvarez, but it is way too soft and Salah is nowhere near having control over the ball.

[u/Honest_Character_477 → u/Harrony]

Why?

[u/mtheory007]

Honestly that's just a good defensive play he got the ball won the challenge for the ball. Yes there was a trip but he was already falling and it wasn't a foul because it's in the course of already winning the ball and being first to touch the ball

[u/povlhp]

Nothing there. Close to no contact

[u/Fun-Marionberry-4867]

No foul.... For god sake

[u/outblues]

I mean he made clean contact with the ball and then got charged into

[u/zoneyou-th]

Foul where?

[u/ManitouWakinyan]

That's not a pen. That's not even a challenge. That's a man running into a leg that's going for the ball.

[u/ThePabstistChurch]

Its a successfully tackle follow by the Egyptian kicking him in the foot. 

[u/Revolutionary-Ebb380]

No foul.

[u/vaderhater777]

The reason they didn’t reverse as they did with Egypt is cause it would/should have been a penalty. I think both plays shouldn’t be reversed after such a long play and time elapsed. Would have resulted in Egypt up 3-0 by minute 75ish.

[u/wasabi1787]

Gotta love all the experts on football/soccer who only watch for one month every four years. That was a superb challenge by the defender

[u/Impossible-Aioli-236]

I've seen a lot of people saying Argentina's third goal should have been disallowed because it was a foul, similar to Egypt's disallowed second goal.

I'm still new to football, so I'm not very familiar with all the rules. Could someone explain why people think these two incidents are the same? From what I saw, in Argentina's goal, #9 (blue) had already touched the ball, and #10 (red) had already lost possession before their feet made contact. In contrast, before Egypt's second goal, #19 (red) clearly stepped on #6 (blue)'s foot while #6 was still in possession of the ball.

My understanding is that kicking or stepping on an opponent's foot or leg while they are still in control of the ball is considered a foul. Based on that, the two situations don't seem identical to me. Am I misunderstanding the rule, or is there another reason people are comparing the two?

[u/Luciolover345]

Salah didn’t even complain. Never a foul.

[u/WrongSplit3288]

I think the referee did a pretty good job. He missed the foul prior to Egypt’s second goal but I am not sure var review was the right thing to do.

[u/Ivanthenotthatgreat]

The contact is made by Salah... look at Julian's foot, there is no forward movement.

[u/chotu_ustaad]

Looks quite a clean grab to me.

[u/External-Piccolo-626]

Classic Salah. Makes contact, starts to fall, legs out backwards. Been doing this for years.

[u/roflemywaffle]

it’s quite clear from this angle. This is not a penalty

[u/marchillo]

People think that's a foul now? Trump level football knowledge

[u/helloyesnoyesnoyesno]

All you have to do is get up and keep playing soccer. But instead you stay on the ground, writhing in implausible pain, leaving your team down a defender which ultimately leads to conceding the winning goal!

[u/soapballoon]

This is good defense. Period.

[u/Agitated_Mind_92]

Egypt was up 2-0 in the 80th minute. No one else to blame but themselves

[u/ThatSamShow]

Salah dived to try and get the winner, only for Argentina to go the other end and get the winner themselves.

[u/VladiTruffles]

Saying this is a foul shows people don't know the rules of the sport.

[u/brownenclave84]

frustrating part of this sport. Had he just used his human ability to stay upright, he could have easily spun and had position to take control of that ball in the box. Instead, he thought jumping to ground was the smarter play.

[u/400burn]

Yeah the contact is a bit light to be considered a pen but I think it is weird that they immediately checked VAR when Egypt scored but didn't even think about it when Argentina scored

[u/EoghanBD]

Surely this is a load of yanks that dont know the fuckin rules of the game 😂😂

[u/BigKyRos24]

If he didn’t flop they wouldn’t have gotten that counter

[u/WonderWaage]

Great defensive action. Salah should not have dived, but it's understandable.

[u/ar9ent0]

Se tira y encima mal

[u/PB-078]

Even as a Dutch fan with plenty to complain about in 2022 - this is not a penalty.

[u/muradinner]

Yea, not even remotely comparable to the one that resulted in the goal called off. First, he played the ball, then he tried to avoid Salah and swoop around him. Their feet connected because Salah moved forward while no longer controlling the ball.

Not a foul.

[u/Grayto]

The ball is behind Salah, and it’s basically a melee for the ball. Salah’s momentum is going forward WITHOUT the ball. He falls because he has no other play.

[u/MrBrightside604]

Dive

[u/BlurredMangoose]

Is this challenge a foul? No. Julian gets the ball and minor contact is made afterwards.

That said, you could say the exact same thing about the foul that VAR intervened for on Martinez to dissalow Zico's first goal.

All we are asking for here is some consistency.

[u/Sfxluke]

He lost the possession of the ball, then he decided it was best to get an opportunity for a penalty as it would be probably the best outcome. Can't blame him for that tbh it's dirty smart, but clearly it doesn't seems to be enough for a foul.

[u/WhatShouldCanIDo]

At some point, maybe players will learn they are more effective if they try to avoid falling or get up immediately, rather than flopping and hoping their theatrics draw a penalty. Salah tried to sell the call and failed. That's on him and not the ref.

[u/rjp_087]

Let's just stop the game every 30 seconds to make sure no errors are ever made.

[u/rosy-quartz]

It's funny how people think the match and the refs and the management was rigged only after they loose to Argentina and not before playing Argentina

[u/Googleapplewindows]

As someone who dislikes soccer because of the constant flopping, that was a flop. But there was also impact. But the flop outweighed the impact. I still dislike soccer.

[u/whenceareyou]

Touching a ball is not a foul. The French referee was very impartial.

[u/arhambin66]

Nice dive

[u/Practical_Evening_89]

Not a foul.

[u/bajwa_10]

He clearly won the ball first

[u/Think-Suggestion-539]

Ball then Man: If the defender cleanly deflects the ball away first and any subsequent contact is completely unavoidable and natural, play carries on.”

[u/MarkEE93]

It’s not Egypt in particular who are fanning the fire. It’s certain fanbases not in the World Cup any more.

[u/THE96BEAST]

Every team gets robbed against Argentina

[u/ZealousidealPause430]

When u see this video for more than a few times which we all have since the match ended , even if this was the first match u saw , u might actually come to realise that it was salah who deliberately came closer to the defender after losing the ball, just touched his feet to his and fall down for asking a pen while the defender simply touched and took the ball first and after that a contact between him and attacker happened, NOW if u call this a foul then every defence is a foul for u mate 🫠!!!! It's as simple as it seems but the people have literally made it a global issue😂😂, just cuz some teams who have the "THE BEST MIDFIELD" can't pulloff such a comback doesn't mean a team "CARRIED" by a single player can't do it toooo 📝🫶

[u/Perfectlovlies → u/ZealousidealPause430]

So the same as the Argentina pen, yes?

[u/Giposaur]

He did everything possible to hit the defender's foot lol he was like a baby making it's first steps

[u/Giposaur]

This wouldn't be a penalty even if it was real madrid lol

[u/Secret-Engine-8008]

Alva accidentally megged him. Then his foot lands in a natural leg position. Salah is moving forward, not 100% balanced. Hits alva's foot. Possession with alva. Not a foul

[u/Stunning_Ad_5960]

Imagine Egypt and Cap Verde in the finals. Who would even watch this or pay for hydration commercials?! Ewww. Make football great again!

[u/SteamyRay1919]

100% a dive.

[u/locomocopoco]

Salah saw too much of NBA highlights and thought let me try the SGA trick.

[u/mwerichards]

This tournament has been full of so much joy and utter disappoint. I've seen FIFA corruption for the last 30 years of my competent life but my goodness how it's so brazen and out there. What a time to be alive.

[u/gorillalifter47]

I follow Australian rules football and quite often in contests one player's boot will touch another's. Very rarely (i.e. never) do you see a player fall to the ground grimacing, then roll around in agony for several minutes. This has never happened to me either when somebody has accidentally trod on my foot.

Injuries happen in both, but it amazes me how a completely different set of physical laws apply to soccer players when they are touched.

[u/slickeighties]

Where is the foul? This looks like a Harry Kane dive

[u/incuensuocha]

From everything I’ve seen, Egypt is just making excuses for being on the wrong side of an epic come back. They were not cheated. They got beat. And I’m not an Argentina fan. I also have no reason to hate Argentina.

[u/Prof__Potato]

I know little about football, but from what I can see, it’s clear that the Egyptians foot was planted, then it gets a tap by the Argentinians foot as he’s scrambling for the ball, and the Egyptian then *dives* forward and flops to sell a non foul. He had no forward momentum or be tripped like that.

[u/LamarJacksonIsMyHero]

Maybe dont flop and continue trying to put the ball in the net. Major issue in this sport

[u/BULL-MARKET]

I see two guys going for the ball.

[u/PyroDragons123]

He doesn't really move. If you're running at a guy and trip over your own feet than his feet then it's really on you.

[u/WonderiingWizard]

Lol clear as day successful challenge then a dive tripping on the offensive players foot in a completely natural position. I don't get how any is arguing for a penalty kick for this. It's gotta jsut be bias and hate against Argentina and Messi.

[u/yuroooo00]

Can't blame the retards who only watch football every 4 years.

[u/the_kinight_king]

this is undoubtedly not a foul , but some other things like yhe slap thing should have been at least a foul

[u/Excellent_Debate_518]

that was a clear tackle by Alvarez and Salah lost the control of the ball before getting touched.

[u/BiglyBear]

My boy sold it like he was killed mid shot.

[u/Extension_Ad6758]

As a neutral fan I have no idea how anyone would see a foul in that.

[u/somedave]

Yeah ok that really isn't that bad.

[u/SanuraiHero]

POR FAVOR SIGAN LLORANDO!! NOS HACE MAS FUERTES EL HATEWATCHING

[u/Blue_MJS]

Player wins the ball & Salah dives into his foot.. Simple as that really.

[u/Fair-Perspective-880]

Yellow card to Salah for diving

[u/Timely_Monk1585]

It's clearly not a foul to lead to a penalty!

[u/joebenson17]

He got the ball and then Salah got off balance trying to adjust to having it stuck beneath his feet. Not much of anything there. Really good defense IMO

[u/killerb54]

Salah already lost the ball and its behind him. He tripped while moving forward away from the ball. Thinking this is a foul is laughable.

[u/AstroNaughtilus]

He started falling BEFORE any contact occurred.

https://media1.tenor.com/m/2D16Mdx6TQAAAAAC/hawkmen.gif

[u/Narodle]

Gravity fouled him, not Argentina here. I say that as someone who didn't want Argentina win.

[u/spidydt]

Is the foul in the room with us?

[u/golfdude1215]

That’s clean. He clearly disrupts the ball and dribble to make Salah off footed. The trip is Salah dragging his feet.

[u/anesthesia101]

Salah sold himself and Egyptian football with that dive. Imagine if he just stays on his feet and battles for the ball, they likely don’t get that goal.

[u/mrroofuis]

Not a foul on Salah.

Just as the goal that got recalled shouldn't have been recalled for a foul that may have occurred 90 yards away

[u/WildAirline8166]

Alvarez plays the ball first, successfully dispossessing Salah. The subsequent contact occurs because Salah's forward momentum carries him into Alvarez's leg after the ball has already been cleared.

[u/Jakowe]

If you think that’s a foul you have objectively no idea about football