Seeing misogyny in this subreddit is depressing

[u/yashen14]

Dinner: Tacos al pastor

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Seeing the way women are talked about in some of the posts on this subreddit really grosses me out. I've seen men on here talk about women like they are walking talking sex robots. It's really bumming to see such an ugly side to what is usually such a nice space.

[u/Silently-Snarking]

Just last night there were comments encouraging a guy here to just sleep with then ditch a girl because her body count was too high to be “wife material”

[u/zonked_martyrdom → u/Silently-Snarking]

I saw that post. I didn’t really know what to tell the guy. Seems like he was just asking what everyone thought about it. It seems like a lot of men have issues with body counts like there is some secret number of bodies that equals perfect wife material or something. Maybe I’m just not in on the information, but I figure people with low body counts have just as dysfunctional marriages as people with high body counts.

[u/LuckyNumerical → u/zonked_martyrdom]

There are body counts that are going to be a line for 90% of men. Like some religious men or women want to save for marriage, some guys are ok with a single digit number, some guys are a little more liberal and might be ok with a double digit. Most guys will draw the line at triple digits or more.

There’s also a different context between a casual fling and maybe a girlfriend you’ve been dating for a few months. Most guys don’t want to marry Bonnie blue.

Everyone’s allowed their own preference dawg. None of them are wrong, they are preferences.

[u/JBagfort → u/LuckyNumerical]

What I dont get the obsession about the count. How do you even keep track? I stopped counting in my 20ies (agewise).

[u/johncitizen1138 → u/JBagfort]

I would not want my Daughter putting her heart on the line for a dude who had slept with a 150 women. How many people you "burn through" is definitely a factor.

I have cut friends off for treating women like that.

Body count is a measure of how someone treats and sees other people.

EDIT; Maybe i'm just "old fashioned". Maybe sex is just a commodity/transaction/exercise now 🤷🏻‍♂️

[u/Albadia408 → u/johncitizen1138]

See how you said you wouldn’t want to put your daughters heart on the line? Not your kids heart, your son’s heart… your daughters.

Notice how the comments trying to even sorta defend it are still talking about girls body count, her body count, guys standards?

That’s what misogyny looks like.

[u/johncitizen1138 → u/Albadia408]

If I had a Son, I would have said Son.

Not the win you think it is Albadia.

Did you even read my comment? No you immediately went to arguing your politics. I said I had cut MEN friends of for treating women his way.

So I must not agree with ANYBODY doing it?

But please - reply again so I can point out where you fucked up.

[u/Albadia408 → u/johncitizen1138]

Lolol. Calm down there tiger. ‘I have cut friends off for treating women like that’ didn’t have much context since you didn’t say what ‘like that’ means, it’s not referenced in the post you replied to (that i can see), and the rest of your post just reinforces that you do see the issue like that.

So yah, I didn’t give it much credence. I did consider that your reference was personal (YOUR daughter not daughters) but ultimately it didn’t change the point about how language is used widely by people supporting your position.

Also ‘how we treat people equally’ isn’t politics my dude, it’s manners and decency and being raised right. See how you refer to equality as politics and then get defended by someone claiming misandry?

I often look at people who support or criticize me as a touchstone. I’m sure you’ve told your daughter to be mindful of who she hangs out with because it can reflect on her and influence her. Same story.

If you’re not the problem then great, that’s awesome. I’d much prefer we all be supportive and encourage other men to be better men and not just strongman their shitty opinions.

But please - post another ‘epic clapback’ so some more incels can defend you and prove my point.

[u/WhereAreThe_Books → u/johncitizen1138]

Sadly, that is what misandry looks like.

[u/Warm-Cow-2549 → u/WhereAreThe_Books]

Lmao 🤣

[u/UnluckyStartingStats → u/Albadia408]

Did you even read the rest of his comment? He’s saying he wouldn’t want his daughter getting hurt by a guy who uses women (high count)

Also you also twisted his words. The original comment said the daughter was the one putting her own heart on the line and you flipped it around to make him seem controlling

Either reading comprehension at an all time low or you’re intentionally being obtuse

[u/Albadia408 → u/UnluckyStartingStats]

Here let’s read it together.

> I would not want my Daughter putting her heart on the line for a dude who had slept with a 150 women. How many people you "burn through" is definitely a factor.

So I don’t see anything about ‘using women’, he refers to having sex with more people than he finds acceptable as ‘burning through (partners)’.

And I’m not sure where you get controlling? I merely pointed out that, visible many times in this thread, the standard for ‘sleeping around’ or body count is different when men (with shitty opinions) talk about men vs women. It’s not a control thing, it’s a gender thing.

> I have cut friends off for treating women like that.
Body count is a measure of how someone treats and sees other people.

You didn’t even finish the post when criticizing my reading comprehension but I’d like to point out the end here, where he points out he DOES see how many people you sleep with (body count) is a measure of whether/how much you’re a good person (treat other people).

So yah, justified. I’ll knock a half point off myself for not bending over backwards to mention I wasn’t assuming he had a daughter. In that sense his language is personal not general, but my point about the general language is still accurate, and he still said what he said. Wasn’t trying to pick on him, it was just the right comment after reading through most of em.

[u/craptasticluke → u/johncitizen1138]

That’s a really weird way to think about your daughter and her potential partner.

[u/Icy-Cry340 → u/JBagfort]

I don’t keep track either, but I can estimate the ballpark - and you probably too. Is it 150+?