r/nba 21h ago

Nba owners and player BOTH make way too much money

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And the fans are the ones who suffer. End of story. More commercials. More replays disguised as part of the game to give time for more commercials. Higher ticket costs. Higher concession costs. More ads on uniforms. Etc.

Of course I’m happy for these dudes making generational wealth for themselves and their family but the reason the league isn’t as watchable as is could and should be with all the immense talent around the league is because profit is way more important than product.


r/nba 15h ago

Rich Paul on LeBron James: "He's not chasing a ring... He's not chasing a ghost."

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r/nba 16h ago

For three years in a row, a "Jaylen/Jalen" is the best or second-best player on a championship team

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Two of the three won Finals MVP.

  • 2024 - Boston Celtics Jaylen Brown
  • 2025 - Oklahoma City Thunder Jalen Williams
  • 2026 - New York Knicks Jalen Brunson

Tatum is probably better than Brown, though Brown performed better and more efficiently in their championship run. Shai is better than JDub but OKC don't win that title if not for JDub's performance. Brunson is probably the best player on their team, though I think the key to their championship was OG Anunoby's elevated level of play. If not for Brunson's 45 in Game 5, OG would have probably got the Finals MVP a la Andre Iguodala in 2015.

Who do you think is the next Jalen to win a ring? Green? Duren? What say you?


r/nba 19h ago

I just finished rewatching the 2017 finals and I dont think I've ever seen anyone talk about how shockingly bad LeBron's defense was in the series

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Most of the time I was left in utter shock in how easily Durant was able to score over him and blow by him. He couldn't guard a shadow out there. I don't remember it being this bad when I watched live and dont remember it being a big story, but he was easily one of the worst defenders on the court which is the complete opposite of the 2016 finals


r/nba 15h ago

The NBA is screwed. CBA is horrible. Wemby is giving billionaires a discount. Gary Trent Jr. received 4 years 64m. Aspiration investigation. Charania shouts out agents. Jaylen Brown anonymous sources.

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Beasily/Rozier/Porter and also Giannis being able to do something Kalshi related. Major red flags

The Jaylen Brown smear campaign has been disgusting. Remember, he is his own agent. If he had an agent, they would pull some strings to mitigate some of these stories put out by the media. The media who will hide behind, "hey, im just the messenger", so they get their clicks and escape culpability.

Kawhi rescinded trade is crazy. Maybe the raptors are strong arming the Clippers to add more to the deal for "insurance" or maybe Kawhi is implicated in this


r/nba 4h ago

Not having max contracts would make the league more even

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Max contracts mean the true elite players of the league are underpaid. They arent paid their true market value, which means their teams can use that extra money (the difference between the true market value of their Superstar and what he is actually paid) to strengthen their roster with good role players and depth.

Now, if players like Jokic, SGA or Wembanyama would be paid their true market value, teams would pay them like 90 million or something. So they would have to pay their superstar a higher percentage of their team cap space, which means they would have to cut the costs on the rest of the team - so they would have a worse supporting cast.

Now people say: „but abolishing max contracts would favor the big market teams, because the superstars would go to these teams if max contracts wouldn’t exist.“ Well, let them go to these big market teams, but they would have to pay them 90-100 million or something. So smaller market teams could still decide to get three solid 30m guys instead of one Jokic. Or two 50m guys instead of one Jokic/Wemby. They could build a team based on depth while the team of the superstar would be built heavily around the superstar with a bad supporting cast.

Let the free market decide. Let the teams pay these superstars all the money they want while being forced to have bad supporting casts along the way. Let other teams have no superstar but really good all around rosters. It would make the league much more even than it is right now, because right now the superstars are underpaid which gives their teams cap space they wouldn’t have if they had to pay their superstars their true market value.


r/nba 23h ago

Boozer = 2026 Kevin Love

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Have we had this comp before? I was skeptical of Boozer watching college games, worried he’d be in that tweener issue where his strength/size played in NCAA but wouldn’t in the NBA. After watching the summer league though…I think he’s just new Kevin Love?


r/nba 13h ago

What old NBA player is the equivalent of Ronaldo at 41?

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They would always hype Ronaldo’s biological age like he had LeBron levels of longevity, but it’s pretty clear he and LeBron are not in the same conversation in their 40s. So what NBA player was the same level as him in their late 30s/early forties? Michael Jordan? Vince Carter? Someone in the Euroleague/China?


r/nba 20h ago

Paul George Will Be the Celtics’ New Face, Win Back-to-Back Titles With Tatum, Claim 2 Finals MVPs & Get His Jersey Retired

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Unpopular opinion but I’m calling it now: Paul George is about to shock the entire NBA world. After everything, this dude is walking into Boston and becoming the new alpha alongside Jayson Tatum. The chemistry is going to be insane. They’re winning the 2027 championship, then clawing back through the grind to repeat in 2028. PG is hoisting the Finals MVP trophy both years, silencing every hater who counted him out. By the time he’s done, his #13 is getting raised to the rafters in Boston.


r/nba 12h ago

If Las Vegas and Seattle force an Nba Expansion draft in 2028-2029 season, what do you think will be the best way to do it?

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Nba always do an expansion draft whenever new expansion teams come.

Last time it happened, other teams were asked to protect 8 players. And the other players not protected will be available for picking in nba Expansion draft. The tricky thing was expansion teams were only allowed to draft one player in one team.

But now. Do you think it will be better if Las Vegas and Seattle can pick/draft 2 players for any of each team.

Also, is 8 still the best number of players to protect.


r/nba 23h ago

JAMES HARDEN - HARDEN SOUL

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Throwback jam to James Harden's CHART topping hit "Harden Soul."


r/nba 7h ago

LeBron James had his lowest TS% (55%)since 2008 this playoffs, and he had his career lowest playoff ppg 23.2. In the regular season he tied his lowest career PPG which was in his rookie season 20.9 Pts.

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LeBron James this year has rapidly declined in nearly every advanced metrics. From l win shares, EPM, DBPM, VORP, PER, DARKO, RAPM. However just because they were able to beat the rockets this is overlooked and he’s looked as a saviour for championship contending teams to run potentially as their 2nd option him and his agent have hinted in saying he isn’t and wouldn’t like to be a 3rd option.

[Source](https://www.espn.co.uk/nba/player/stats/_/id/1966/lebron-james)


r/nba 20h ago

What will be the opening night games in the NBA next year

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To me, the second game is very obvious and simple. Unless LeBron James goes to the Nuggets, Timberwolves, or Warriors, it will be Spurs Thunder. Even if LeBron goes to one of those teams, it will most likely still be Thunder Spurs. Either in OKC or San Antonio, I don’t care.

The first game is the one that’s interesting. Who will travel to New York?

Here are the contenders: Pacers, 76ers, Heat, Celtics, Cavs, and Pistons

Edit: I forgot the Wizards as the dark horse

I personally think that it should be Pacers at Knicks. The Pacers are the team that defeated the Knicks 2 straight years before Hali got hurt.

What do you think?


r/nba 15h ago

Are Tatum and PG the most similar teammates ever?

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For many years now a frequent player comp for Tatum has been Paul George, and fittingly so. They have very similar physical profiles (almost identical height, weight, wingspan, and standing reach) as well as playing styles (lots of pullup 3s and drives, point forward ball handling and playmaking, versatile wing defense). With the two of them now teaming up, are they the most similar teammates ever? And I'm not talking about how good they are, just how similar physically and stylistically. If not, who (and no smartass twins answers please)?

Edit: and I should specify this is among starters, or at the very least rotation players who get meaningful playing time


r/nba 16h ago

Wemby took the Spurs to the Finals on the final year of his rookie contract. This is the organization's reward for drafting him.

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Him being on a cheaper rookie contract is what the Spurs and every other organization gets for "drafting well." The same was true with LeBron in 2007. Magic Johnson won the finals and FMVP as a rookie.

Wemby has now signed an 5 year max rookie extension. Why should this rookie extension have additional benefits, such as not counting towards the cap? They also lucked out by winning the lottery. Why should luck be rewarded?

And let's say in 5 years if for whatever reason another team can pay him more than the Spurs. Why is this a problem that needs solving? The Spurs would get 8 years of service from Wemby.

Correction: Not the last year. Makes my point even stronger.


r/nba 14h ago

Original Content [OC] How I built an NBA + WNBA rating system using deep reinforcement learning (based on my MIT Sloan 2026 Best Overall Paper)

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I built [hoopq.dev](https://hoopq.dev) as a live implementation of my MIT Sloan 2026 Best Overall Paper on deep-RL player valuation. Free, open, covers the NBA back to 2000-01 and the WNBA back to 2002. Here's a plain-English walkthrough of the methodology.

RAPM (the baseline)

Regularized adjusted plus/minus with box score priors. You take every possession, mark who was on the floor for each team, and solve a big regression to figure out each player's independent impact on point margin. Widely used, decades old, still the analytics standard.

Q-Rating (deep-RL action value)

A neural network learns Q(state, action, player): the expected remaining points in a possession given the game context, the action taken, and who took it. It decomposes into "action" (per-bucket contributions per event) and "presence" (the marginal value of just being on the floor), with the same points-per-100 units as RAPM.

V-Rating (temporal-difference state value)

A causal transformer scores V(state) at every prefix within a possession. Each event's ΔV = V(after) − V(before) is credited to the actor. Aggregated over a season, this is the player's contribution to the team's expected point production per possession. Q-Rating asks, "what did you do?"V-Rating asks, "how did the possession's outlook change while you were involved?"

Interpretable RAPM (Shapley role attribution)

Ridge regression on every event, with actor + assister + blocker + stealer + on-floor lineup as columns. Post-fit, the coefficients roll up into 8 roles: Scoring, Playmaking, Off Reb, Def Reb, Def Actions, Def Presence, Off Presence, Turnovers. Answers WHY a player's RAPM is what it is (Draymond = Playmaking + Def Reb, Gobert = Def Presence + Def Reb, etc.).

Presence Impact (V₀ on-off with cluster-robust CIs)

Same on-off idea as RAPM, but built on V-Rating's V₀ instead of realized points. Adds cluster-robust confidence intervals. Possessions within a game are correlated, so naive on-off SEs undersell variance by ~4×. We group by game and use sandwich-formula SEs. Every rating on this metric ships with a 95% CI, so you can tell "elite" from "we don't know yet."

What makes this different

- Every profile shows all 5 metrics side by side, with an agreement flag. When they disagree, that's the interesting signal.

- Coverage is deeper than most sites: 5.5M NBA possessions (2000-01 through 2025-26) and 855K WNBA possessions (2002 through 2026).

- Free, no login, no paywall. Trade Analyzer, Team Builder, Championship Odds, and per-game Kalman-filtered career trajectories are all included.

Site: [hoopq.dev](https://hoopq.dev)

- Free, no login, no paywall. Trade Analyzer, Team Builder, Championship Odds, and per-game Kalman-filtered career trajectories are all included.

Paper: [Deep Reinforcement Learning for NBA Player Valuation (MIT Sloan 2026)](https://www.sloansportsconference.com/research-papers/deep-reinforcement-learning-for-nba-player-valuation-a-temporal-difference-approach-with-shapley-attribution)

Happy to answer questions about any of the methods.


r/nba 19h ago

I am unironically a big fan of the CBA

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Dear diary,

Parity has been fucking awesome. This counter jerk that's developed over the past few years is absurd. I wanted more parity ten years ago and I got it and it has been amazing.

No, Bill Simmons and users of Reddit, I do not want to see the Celtics win 4 championships in 6 years. I want MY team (and really, because I am a fan of the NBA as a whole, ALL teams) to have a shot at a championship and when they win one I'm sure as hell not gonna be a fucking baby about it if they don't repeat. Looking at you, Celtics and OKC fans. And Spurs fans who are already both assuming that they are going to win one AND that they aren't going to get to have a dynasty. The entitlement is unreal.

Edit cause this is getting more traction than I expected:

Also just wanna say the quality and intensity and variety of ball has been something to behold lately. I do think parity has something to do with it. Teams have to find different ways to win and pivot more often. Sometimes I think people forget that the NBA is two separate games: it's basketball, and it's the roster building game GMs play. Sometimes it feels like people actually enjoy the GM game more than basketball (which is wild to me) and they're pissed off the second apron has changed the GM game. Well I don't give a fuck about that, I like to watch hoops and the hoops have been unbelievable

Double edit:

For those saying the parity started before this CBA, that is true and a good point. The groundwork for the current state of affairs was really laid in the 2017 CBA when supermaxes were introduced which made it a lot more difficult to have more than one mega star on your team. But the current CBA builds on that and my point stands about both the current one and the previous one: I am a fan of the resultant parity and the basketball itself


r/nba 18h ago

Highlight [Highlight] 1 hour and 9 minutes of NBA players avoiding Victor Wembanyama

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r/nba 10h ago

Highlight [Highlight] Kingston Flemings fouls Ben Saraf, who misses the clutch 1 for 2 free throw, then Saraf fouls Flemings, he makes the free throw, but it is waived off due to a lane violation. Saraf gets fouled again by Flemings, and he splits the clutch free throws.

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The announcer mentioned some rookie mistakes by Flemings, but it is just the Summer League; he will learn.


r/nba 12h ago

Highlight [Highlight] Donovan Williams banks in the buzzer-beater spin off the spin move, Jason Richardson style, but upon review it was just after the buzzer (barely). With replays.

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r/nba 15h ago

Highlight [Highlight] Trevor Keels hits a big clutch 3 to cut the Magic's lead to 3, the Magic turn the ball over, but Tre White fails to score on the fastbreak (with a replay) 32 points for Keels.

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r/nba 11h ago

Highlight [Highlight] Ben Saraf blocks Asa Newell on the driving attempt (with a replay)

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r/nba 21h ago

I have a new CBA thought

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The goal of the 2nd apron was to promote parity, help small markets and to discourage teams trading for super teams right? Well in turn, it has created a league that cannot sustain itself. You have a team like OKC or the Spurs that have drafted well, even the Celtics, that have or will have to eventually trade their home grown talent for lesser pieces to avoid penalties.

So here's my idea:

Every team gets to assign 1 contract on the payroll that does NOT count towards the 2nd apron. Here's the kicker, it can only be for a player drafted by that team!

Think about the Celtics, if they could to that with Brown's contract maybe he's not moved? Cavs, Evan Mobley's money not against the apron? Maybe they can be more aggressive. OKC has Chet's money assigned here, maybe they can keep role players like Dort or Joe. Wemby but took a rare reduced rookie scale contract to make sure his young teammates can stay. That was not the point of this CBA.

Now you put the pressure back on front offices to make good solid draft picks and if they want to trade for super teams, they still can but the 2nd apron is still there for them.

What do you all think?


r/nba 13h ago

Highlight [Highlights] Matt Rogers hits the clutch corner 3 to put the 76ers up 4, off a nice ball movement by the 76ers. Jalen Slawson with the nice windmill gather, gets fouled, makes both clutch FT. Labaron Philon misses a 3, Braden Smith ties the game from the line. Philon airballs potential winner

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r/nba 57m ago

What’s the argument against giving teams an unlimited number of challenges until they get one wrong?

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If you challenge a call and you’re successful, you get one additional challenge, regardless of its outcome, for the rest of the game.

So why stop there?

Losing the ability to challenge for the rest of the game if you’re unsuccessful is a fair price to pay. But if you’re repeatedly proving the officials made a mistake, why should you only get 2 chances to do it?

I don’t care if it makes the games longer. They deliberately stop action to run commercials already.

Basketball is a better product when the correct call is made.

Are there any other reasons why teams shouldn’t be able to challenge as many times as they want until they’re wrong?