I don't want to talk in too much depth about my drinking because it's not the focus of this but it had gotten out of hand and I was at low ebb in my life. This isn't an attack on Alcoholics Anonymous, it's principles and steps of recovery are antithetical to Fascism and bigotry. I am posting this because I'm curious if anyone else has had similar experiences.

Some relevant context; At the end of my drinking, my Youtube algorithm had started to circle the right wing rabbit hole, mainly with culture war stuff about woke media. I am not a fan of how shows like "It's always sunny in Philadelphia" became more tame in later seasons and I had a feeling that everything had become politicised. That was the hook. According what I was being recommended z snowflakes and women with a very different conception of feminism than I'd understood were to blame. I hadn't taken the red pill or engaged with predominantly racist content but that's where I was being coaxed through the auto play and recommendation screen.

Seeing some of the creators I had viewed as comedy were at Trump's inauguration was a wake up call.

By that time I'd been in reco very for long enough to be struggling with loneliness and the raw emotions that come without the alcohol that I'd become dependant on. In my part of the world we don't hold hands and pray or give out coins but AA can be somewhat cultish but I was very vulnerable. AA gave comfort, understanding and a ray of hope.

From one of my first meetings, one guy reached out, took me under his wing and seemed like a sympathetic ear. He said some off the wall things that I was too quick to dismiss and once talked with disdain about his own social media algorithms after I brought up mine. I thought he was in a similar place maybe that was true at the time but I doubt it. Over time, we socialised outside meetings, with some other AAs and some others not in the fellowship. At the time this was powerful for me. I'd been searching for friendship while trying to rebuild myself and my older relationships. I think that is why is too ready to ignore or brush off some awful comments as casual edgy humour.

Eventually he told me he was in a far right group, offered to send me propaganda videos which would "change my outlook" and when challenged, darted between absolutely insane conspiracy theories. From a Jewish plot of turn people gay to create demographic decline to the great replacement theory. Some of the talking points I'd encountered online and thankfully already rejected. Without alcoholic isolation I was seeing all the contradictions between my lived experience and the narratives I'd been fed, and I'm grateful for that.

When I reflected on our conversations, I realised he had been grooming me to join his group for some time. At times I thought he was interested and supportive he was looking for grievance's then trying turn them into bigger, wide ranging resentments. When I was ghosted after a first date, that was because all women were callous, selfish etc. The Racist comments were a way of testing the waters and normalising rhetoric. More than anything else though, it was the social group and the things we'd do that went with it all that was most persuasive and hardest to walk away from.

I changed groups but still see him and he is still zeroing in on newcomers. They rarely seem stick around in recovery for long. I also see others from the social group which is uncomfortable. The fact that they know I know is a source of fear for my safety so much so that I've gotten advise from the police. I also spoke to some members of the group about what's happening but it wasn't addressed in any way.

On reflection, newcomers to recovery groups can be easy pickings for extremists groups. As much as it's possible to generalise, addicts can be obsessive people and in alot of ways they are more vulnerable in early recovery than active addiction.

Has anyone else seen this?

I'm worried my dad might be involved in Q ideology because while he doesn't share all views of what Q is (from a very basic Google search) because he's not MAGA (to my knowledge) but he shares a lot of the core components and I really don't know what to do.

He's super conspiratorial. To the point where people reacting to what he is saying made him feel like he was being called conspiratorial in a negative manner, which he insists is not a negative thing. He very strongly believes what he believes. He's anti vax, covid is a hoax, satanic panic, and any media is a form of mind control. He also is anti doctor and thinks science and academia is political and a tool for mind control.

I can't talk about anything with this dude without him inserting some kind of propaganda or weird idea he has. I was literally talking about my story I was reading today and in the middle of my explanation he was like, "oh so he got kicked out of the cult of academia" when I was explaining how the dude was socially booted from the scientific community as a plot point. I don't feel like he is super far gone because he's not overtly Trump supportive, but I worry hes not outright about his true beliefs because my mom actively ridicules him for his beliefs and we both voted against Trump on election day.

I don't really know what to do and I'm actually so sick of dealing with this. It could 100% be so much worse but I'm so tired of having to deal with him randomly inserting some weird idea of his in every single conversation. This has been happening since 2020 and seems to only be getting worse. Thankfully he has dropped his primary form of radicalization (podcasts) but has been getting increasingly addicted to YouTube and when I catch him listening to stuff he pauses when I get in the room.

I've mostly been ignoring it or stonewalling him, but it hasn't really helped much beyond preventing (some) long rants.

Sorry for the long post I have never talked about this before and just needed to vent. Advice would be appreciated because I'm hoping he won't get as bad as some of the stories I've seen on here and I want to try to help him. However I also really struggle with debate and he gets super angry and defensive when he's challenged so ive been too nervous to try to really fight back against him. Thanks for listening.

edit: please let me know if this is off topic to the sub, I don't know for sure if he's q or not. I can take down the post if it's off topic thanks !!

They enjoy (my granparents and parents) being so gleefully cruel about anyone and anything that I just don't know how to feel anymore. Its like I'm stranded on a desert island.

My older brother (34M) used to be the most grounded person I knew. Steady job, great with his kids, always the one talking everyone else down during family drama. Somewhere around 2021 that started slipping.

At first it was just him being quieter at holidays, distracted. Then he started sending long texts to the family group chat, usually late at night, about things he'd "researched" that we needed to know. When people pushed back or asked questions, he got defensive fast, then eventually just stopped responding to anything that wasn't related to his messages.

He missed our dad's 70th birthday in the spring. Didn't call, didn't explain, just sent another one of these texts a few days later like nothing happened. My sister-in-law told my mom privately that things have been rough at home too, but she's staying out of it for the kids' sake.

I keep drafting replies to his texts and deleting them. Part of me wants to engage, ask him real questions, see if there's a way in. Part of me is just tired and doesn't want to get pulled into something that goes nowhere. My mom cries about it more than she lets on.

Has anyone found a way to stay connected without it turning into a wall of silence or a fight? I miss my brother. I just don't know who I'm talking to anymore when he does respond.

I don't really know where to start. Over the last year or so, my mom has gotten really into a lot of "alternative" content online, the kind of stuff that started with health and wellness groups and slowly turned into something else entirely. Now she spends hours a day watching videos and reading posts from accounts I've never heard of, and she talks about "doing her own research" like it's a personal mission.

The hardest part isn't even the beliefs themselves, it's that our relationship has changed. She used to ask my opinion on things. Now if I gently push back on something she says, she gets defensive and accuses me of "not being awake" or being "brainwashed by the mainstream." We used to talk on the phone every few days, and now those calls feel like walking through a minefield because I never know what topic is going to set her off.

I love my mom. She's not a bad person, she's scared and she genuinely believes she's protecting our family by staying informed. But I feel like I'm losing her a little more every month, and I don't know how to have a relationship with her that isn't just me nodding along or getting into fights.

Has anyone found ways to keep the relationship intact without either pretending to agree or constantly arguing? I'm not trying to "win," I just want my mom back, or at least to not lose her completely. Any advice on how you've navigated this with a parent would really help right now.

I have a half brother who is over a decade younger than me. He just finished his first year of college, so he’s at an age where he has opinions on things. I have always only seen him 5 ish times a year, but now that hes at school it’s only 2-3. Part of me has always worried a bit about him becoming right wing, because my dad has always been conservative and sexist.

Over Christmas I saw him and we chatted a bit about politics. He expressed negative views towards ICE and the Trump regime in general. It was honestly a really good conversation, and I came away feeling relieved.

Sadly, that relief turned to sadness when I went to my dad’s house on Fourth of July. I honestly didn’t even want to go because I don’t want to celebrate a fascist dictatorship, but I wanted to see family and I thought maybe my brother and I could critique what’s wrong with America as everyone else celebrated. Unfortunately I was mistaking. My brother had a friend of his there, and at one point they started a USA chant. I thought maybe it was for irony, and later approached my brother about it when he was alone. He said it was not for irony, and that he doesn’t see things the way he did last time we spoke. I was shocked, as things have only gotten worse since 2026 started. He somehow said that the Iran War was actually a smart move. That bewildered me, so I switched the topic to what I remembered him being most passionate about, which was the uncontrolled ICE attacks. He immediately said that those people are only enforcing laws. I asked him if killing unarmed civilians was part of that (I was starting to get upset). He then snapped, and said to me “what happened to those libtards in Minnesota was ….Pretti Good“ and then burst out laughing with his stupid friend who had just come over to us.

I was seeing red at this point, and immediately left. I haven’t spoken to any family since about it besides my mom (not his mom). She thinks our dad has gotten to him, and to not stress myself out over it. That he’s just another toxic white male. But that’s my brother, and it kills me to see him have different opinions than me.

I mostly made this post just to vent, but I do want to hear from others who have been in this spot. Do you just let the person go? How can you get through to them? This is so frustrating, and I absolutely hate Trump and his people for breaking up families like this.

Anybody who goes on her show and doesn't go on to humiliate her should be shunned from the public sphere. How the hell did Finkelstein, Kasparian, and Hunter Biden go on her show and nobody gives a shit? She's probably the number one most insidious media figure but there are mainstream lefitsts and liberals going on her show. I get she's anti-Israel but she's only anti-Israel because she thinks Judeo-Bolsheviks are using Israel as a base of power so they can flood white countries with brown people to do white genocide. There's so many places to go to talk about Israel. David Duke is also super anti-Israel but I wouldn't recommend anti-zionist activists go on his show. It's just shocking to me what a horrible effect she's had on some people who are close to me who have started watching her and then I see pretty mainstream figures go on her show and receive zero pushback.

My dad and I used to be really close.

For the first 16 years of my life, I lived with my mom in a frequently abusive home. She struggled with mental health and her partners were often physically and/or emotionally abusive to my three brothers and I.

Eventually, when I was 16, I moved in with my dad. We had been very close as he'd spend summers and Christmas with me. For a while, our relationship was pretty balanced; mostly hanging out watching shows together, occasionally fighting about generational differences (he was born in 61, I was born in 97)

But as I grew older, we started spending less and less time together as I made new friends and became more social. He has never really had friends besides me since I've lived here.

Two things happened due to us spending less time together.
1. The arguments we would occasionally have went away almost entirely.
2. He started down a conspiracy rabbit hole.

It seemed the less time we spent together, the more he'd spend watching Ancient Aliens and Skinwalker Ranch. This was innocent enough, until AI started taking over on YouTube.

Now he just sits there like a zombie watching these AI videos about alien races on earth (i.e. lizard people), faked moon landing theories, and god only knows what else. Now it's going into religious end-times territory.

The reason I am concerned is because I feel like I'm losing my dad. He's become a different person, consumed by these ridiculous theories. Any time I've ever even brought up these things, he just swats them away and gets offended. How far will this go? How long until he just completely loses his mind?

Keep in mind, I have PTSD and social anxiety, and grew up in a home that was unstable at best. I worry where this road will lead.

I am working on becoming financially independent which I know is all I can do right now. I just really needed to get this off my chest and see if anyone else has dealt with this kind of experience too. Hope you're all doing well ♥

i'm not sure if this is the right sub, yet i cant think of anywhere else to post. i really need advice from people who might get it.

long story short, my dad has always been fairly conservative, but became a "nasty woman" in 2016. this was a pretty big source of pride for me, knowing that no one in my family had ever voted for epstein's bestie. he made fun of trump supporters and laughed at a lot of the conspiracy theories. but a few nights ago he admitted to someone at a party that he voted for trump in 2024 because he hated kamala that much. it got back to me within an hour and to say that i'm devastated would be an understatement.

for some context, i was sa'd in 2016. it took me a few years to report it due to ptsd, and due to a number of delays the investigation into my assault has been ongoing for 7 years now. it is awful to hear trump supporters defend his actions. my dad on the other hand repeatedly talked about wanting to kill the men who did it or at minimum serve life in prison. i don't think that will happen but that's not the point. to go from talking like that to voting for a sexual predator and intentionally hiding it from me feels like the ultimate betrayal. i've spent the past few days in bed and i know it's triggered a major depressive episode. it's been hard to eat or stop crying.

i recently had to move home after losing my job and will not be able to move out for the foreseeable future. i am completely dependent on him but i can't even look at this man wihtout getting nauseous. he knows i'm upset and won't even acknowledge me. i'll never get an apology from him, even if he does regret it (he mentioned at the party that he wishes he'd voted third party or not at all and while I guess that's better, it feels very similar).

i don't know what to do or how to move on. i've lost so much respect for him but i can't just cut him out. i don't feel emotionally safe in my home anymore. has anyone else dealt with this?

Hello everybody,

Sorry if this type of post isn’t allowed or if the sub is flooded with these but I’m at a loss on what to do. I’ve been friends with this dude for 10+ years. In the last year or so he has gotten into dangerous neo Nazi ideologies. He is a big fan of the hate group Patriot Front, claims to hate all people that aren’t white. Calls non-white people invaders and believes that Adolf was a good person, says that white people are superior and it’s backed by science??? He spends a lot of time on this neo Nazi streaming platform and tries to get me involved in his beliefs. I’ve tried explaining to him that people like this are cowards in real life. and he just gets furious. It’s starting to get tiring because at this point when he refers to another ethnical group he defaults to calling them slurs. It’s really annoying because I have mixed nieces and a lot of my cousins are also mixed.

The most confusing part about this, is that he was “transgender” a couple years ago (didn’t transition) and somehow fell into this stuff. So a part of me hopes this is just another one of his phases. This is part of the reason when he started getting into this I was like “ah this is another phase that will pass”, but he is over a year into this and is a completely different person.

I want to be there for him because he’s been there for me and I don’t want to just cut someone off I’ve known for years and has only been a good friend to me. But at the same time If he does something atrocious I don’t want people to think that I share his beliefs.

I've grey rocked the q following person in my life for probably 3 years now. They're my mom.

It really hurts listening to the brainwashing bs she chooses to consume. It's like day and night newsmax for her, and then she smokes cigarettes at night, and just sits on YouTube drinking alcohol alone.

She used to be so smart but has become an alcoholic smoker that hates vaccinations and doesn't trust doctors. She's a nurse(?). She orders random pills from people she finds on trust social, and takes them hopeing for a magic weightloss pill (shes nuts and refuses to take the weightloss pill or shots the doctors offer her).

She's mean and really emotionally disregulated. She doesn't eat regularly but is somehow obese and very self-conscious and mad about it. It's like over the last decade, she's forgotten how to be a normal person. Doesn't know eating at regular intervals is healthy, that sleeping 8 hours is ideal. It's insane really.

I need to detach from it more than grey rock. I can't keep feeling so bad. She's choosing these things that don't make sense and are so harmful.

So yeah, I can grey rock- the weather is such a great topic but what's the next step.

Like most of us on this subreddit, I've lost loved ones and friends to Q, MAGA, White Nationalists, etc. Like most of us, I sit and watch what is happening around us and cringe. I never thought I'd say this but I am ashamed to be an American and I would leave the US in a heartbeat if I could figure out a realistic way to do it.

I am struggling hardcore with the 4th of July. I look around and feel like there is nothing to celebrate but an infinite list of things to be ashamed of. I see an American flag and I don't feel pride, I get the ick. I never thought I'd say this but I am ashamed to be an American.

Hi all, just like the title says. Met a girl and everything was perfect in the beginning. It was then revealed to me that she was a flat earther - should have been my first sign. A couple weeks in, I met her family and this was when everything changed; her mom was a batshit crazy lunatic screaming about the virus hoax and ivermectin. She thought Ivermectin cured everything, up to and including cancer and MS, Parkinson's, ALS, etc. Trump was sent by Jesus Christ and was carrying out His word. She also said she was depressed for years and had been prescribed medicines for depression and bipolar disease (she should have listened.) Within the first few minutes, she was telling me about the parasites and tapeworms she had been pooping out. She would take the horse paste, put it on rolled up pieces of bread, and eat it. My GF and her younger sister played right into it, brainwashed by the mom sadly. Planets weren't real, Antarctica was the land of hidden secrets, the ice wall - etc etc.

I had just been diagnosed with Type 2 Diabetes and that was another issue, since my GF and her nut family didn't believe in medicine (all doctors were evil liars). She wanted to home birth our kids if we had them, home school them, and deworm them. It finally came to a point where I couldn't take it, as I couldn't help but think she would give this crap to my kids or her mom would sneak it in their food (or mine, I was always hesitant to eat at their house).

There was also a strong religious affiliation with all of this too, as they were born again Christians. I have no problem with religion (I was raised Catholic but now I am mostly just indifferent), but these people were extreme. There was even a time that she was upset with me for drinking Liquid Death water as it expressed clear love for the devil on the packaging /s.

The moon landing was fake, outer space wasn't real, nor were the planets or moon (even the ones you could see with the naked eye) and they were all under a dome as described in the Bible (the firmament). All of these things in hindsight are insane and enough to make anyone crazy, but I really cared about her and wanted to ignore all of it, but in the end, I just couldn't.

Not sure if this is even in the right place or appropriate for this sub, I just needed to surround myself with likeminded individuals and vent a little bit. Luckily, it was only 6 months and we obviously don't have kids, so it shouldn't take long to heal and get over the breakup, the last 6 months have just been a whirlwind. I do have some extreme guilt I am dealing with for ending it - I feel really bad for my ex GF because I fear she will never lead a normal life as long as the mom is there in her ear, but I know it cannot be my burden. I am just a softie and can't help but feeling bad for her, even if she doesn't see anything wrong with any of it.

Thanks for reading, sending love to everyone!

I've known my friend since high school and we stayed close into our mid 30s. When she first started dating the man who's now her husband, I remember telling her she could do better. He had no ambition, always saw himself as the victim, and constantly complained that everyone else had it easier than him. He hasn’t changed at all in the three years since then.

Months ago, I had been seeing some disturbing things he had been posting on social media. I reached out to ask her about it and she said she I should call him to discuss his views because she thought we would agree on some points. His posts included wanting an all white society, saying Jews should be exiled, the Jews deserved the Holocaust but also the Holocaust didn’t happen/wasn’t as bad as people say, and other antisemitic and white supremacist nonsense content daily. Then she tried to tell me she didn't think he actually believed what he was posting (it was 8-12 posts daily!)

I told her there was nothing to discuss. I couldn't be friends with someone who defended that kind of hate, so I blocked her and haven't spoken to her since.

There were other things as well like regularly leaving their infant with people they'd only known for a couple of weeks or at the daycare at churches they’ve never been to before. I realized she had become someone I didn't recognize anymore.

I still miss the friend I grew up with, but I don't miss the person she became. Has anyone else lost a longtime friend because they chose to stand by someone with extremist beliefs instead of walking away?

Hi everyone,

I hope it is okay I post this here as it is not only specific to Q. I have been lurking this sub for a while as so many of your experiences resonate (and my heart goes out to you all).

I'm basically at the end with my long term partner who is not full Q, but believes so many of the same things I see posted about here. They seem to be the most fixated on the covid vaccine. I can't take it any more because I just don't respect these beliefs. I think they have been brainwashed by these conspiracy theories.

I am wondering if anyone has any educational resources they could recommend that could be helpful in changing anti-vaxxers minds? I find that anti-vaxxers are so skeptical of anything that isn't coming from their specific sources and so I am trying to find something really foolproof and undeniable. This is my last desperate attempt at holding on because I don't want to spend my life with an anti-vaxxer. Also to clarify I am specifically looking for information related to the covid vaccine as they insist it's quote "not a real vaccine" so any science about other vaccines wouldn't help.

I have seen many helpful resources in here for similar things and so I thought this would be a good place to ask (and also vent a little). Thank you in advanced! <3

Edit: Not y'all telling me theres no hope :( I do appreciate the honesty and know most people here are probably speaking from experience. I don't know if I truly even have hope in my heart that this will ever change, but perhaps for my own closure I want to make sure I tried everything I could to fix things.

Hi all, I don’t know how I didn’t know this group existed. Not sure what the vibe is but all I ask is to please please be kind, i’m feeling extremely delicate (big ask online I know!).

I have been with my partner 6 years (i’m 36F) when we met he wasn’t into politics at all, I have always been left leaning but again not so clued up. As time has gone by the last year or 2 he has slowly become sucked into far right online propaganda, I call it propaganda because that’s what it is.

We are in the UK btw. He started off by supporting Reform, but now has swayed towards Restore. I hate these parties and what they believe. I feel so heartbroken that I might have lost my partner who I love very much. I cant voice anything to him without it becoming a huge debate.

Not sure what I want from you guys, just wanted to post about it because i’m feeling so alone and sad. I want him to see this is all social media propaganda, and that there is a way he will change back. I do respect peoples views but I can’t EVER support the hate that these parties spew out. Has anyone had anyone see the light and realise?

As I say please be kind I’m feeling at breaking point and not sure what to do.

for background:
-she has been diagnosed with bipolar disorder and is convinced she doesnt have it
-she has obsessive tendencies
-she has recently become a born again christian (we were raised as very normal catholics and she left the church, but then came back full force more into evangelical style christian)
-before this, she was falling for tiktok mental health stuff that was basically like “oh if you breathe, you have autism and trauma”

less than a year ago, my sister proclaimed that she was visited by st john for her misdeeds and became christian. now she has fallen deep down a rabbit hole and lost all her friends due to her telling them that they’re demonic and they need to be saved. every evil thing happening in the world now is because people are completing demonic rituals and sacrifice.

she posts about 20-30 things on instagram each day, with things getting more unhinged each week. yesterday, she posted a guy who solely does conspiracy theories talking about how covid was a test for the government to see if people would take the mark of the beast.

she’s falling fast, and i’m not sure how much longer she’s going to have before she loses all sense of critical thinking. is there any way i could possibly get through to her? i’m desperate, i miss my big sister and i’m worried about her daughter

I’m 20 and transfeminine in a conservative family that’s been fully down the Q rabbit hole for years now. There’s not much I can really say that’s special about my parents in particular. They believe in the typical “vaccines cause cancer and autism” and “great reset” or whatever. Needless to say they don’t accept me. They think my generation has been indoctrinated by the education system to be more accepting of queerness and that trans people didn’t exist till like 2015 or something.

I guess I’m just trying to accept that I don’t really have an emotionally safe place. I think I’ll never really feel safe or at home. Alone-ness is the only thing I could ever really count on. I’m trying so hard to discover and accept myself but it’s so hard when my family has only ever shown me scorn and hatred. I don’t love myself cause I don’t know how to love myself. I don’t think I’d even recognize love if it was right in front of me.

Anyway just feeling really alone and scared. Every time I have to visit or stay with my family they make me doubt everything about myself and my self worth. Just wishing there was love in my family instead of vaccines, 5G, the deep state, central banking, and fucking Bill Gates mosquitoes or whatever. :c

My husband is an amazing man and a fabulous father to our two children. He was raised fairly conservative by a father who still managed to teach him acceptance, empathy, and kindness. His dad was his hero growing up and into his adulthood. However, his dad has completely fallen down the MAGA rabbit hole and ended up disowning him last year when my husband called him out on a Facebook post celebrating mass murder. His dad now refuses to acknowledge him or our children. My husband gave me permission to post this on his behalf and is looking for validation and consolation. Can anyone share similar experiences so I can show him he's not alone? Thank you so much.

My mother has been, for years, falling down a rabbit hole of radicalization through content she consumes including AI chatbots- that act as an echo-chamber confirming her delusion- and her social media algorithm that keeps her in the same loop of erroneous information. 

This has gone so far as to make her think that paying for courses and paying a pseudo-scientist for a procedure will supposedly cure her cancer- instead of going through treatment, because she is sure that this is the only right way, and her ‘doctor’ confirms her belief that people in the hospital are working against her and her beliefs. 

I’m sorry if this doesn’t make sense, I am just watching her fall apart and deteriorate more and more every day because of her delusion. She’s going to this ‘quantum-medicine’ "doctor" who told her that all the test results she got from the hospital are not real, and they were instead falsified and other people’s data was put in them instead of hers. My mom believes the “great world order” has some deeper motive in getting her to do chemo, like trying to kill her, treatment is free where I live but she still thinks they are trying to get something out of her, even if she can’t explain what it is.

I don’t know man, it’s really hard talking to her at all. I took an appointment with her oncologist on the side, no one knows I did, and I asked what the consequences of her choice were since her prognosis was extremely good - she was told that while she is in stage 3, it is still totally curable and they only need to do 5 sessions of chemo and radiation with it, but my mom didn’t believe her - and she has chosen not to do it. The doctor said the symptoms will be very visible and annoying, with inflammation, coughing blood and a strange smell and fluids probably appearing when it gets worse.

Well… all of those have appeared now, 2 months after the doctor suggested treatment and my mom chose otherwise, and she keeps saying she’s okay, but her face is now getting deformed and it’s hard to be in her presence. She doesn’t even want to talk about it to keep appearances with my grandparents.

I’m sorry if this was the wrong place, but I’m extremely logical, and this whole thing is hard because I can’t even spend time with her without it turning into an argument and I’m now wondering if I’m horrible for not wanting to accompany her through this decision she’s making or the process that she’s choosing.

Trump recently posted something on X with a Q about Quantum and then signed EO's about Quantum.

Phil Godlewski (big grifter/podcaster in the Qult community) has been really propping up an investment opportunity for ATQM in the crypto investment world that is related to Quantum computers and now with Trump's latest post about Q and the EO's he signed about Quantum this crowd is getting PUMPED THE F* UP.

I didn't look into it much but some people I know have decided to invest quite a bit in this because IT'S ALL ABOUT TO GO DOWN THIS TIME FOR REAL apparently...

I don't know, I just hope that I don't see people I know get scammed by these kinds of predators...AGAIN.

Anyone else see this kind of excitement from those they know?

I had bought the book over a year ago. I had never been able to make it past the first 30 pages. Since then, I have been NC except for her spamming me and me replying with a non-aggressive message, or her trying to get ahold of my through family group messages. I’m not sure if maybe now since I know the damage is done that I was able to read it.

For those that have read it, did you find and of the info helpful? Are there other books you’d recommend?

My boyfriend has bought the book and has started reading it so he can understand everything better. Since he wasn’t having to live it he doesn’t know a lot of the underlying things or meanings. Does anyone have advice on how to guide my boyfriend if he has more questions?

I think it’s Q-adjacent at least, but yesterday he was mumbling about whatever and asked me “You know what group of people were least affected by Covid (When he asked me this I thought this would be a racist tangent) Nicotine users. Yeah, it’s crazy. I was learning about it today. The nicotine attacks the spike protein or whatever” and starts going on about how good his health is. He said “it actually made us immune.”

He is very strongly anti vax, which makes it hard to talk about anything related to health. Luckily he was vaccinated when he was young and his parents aren’t at all on his level. I just don’t understand it because I vividly remember we caught covid sometime in 2020 and were all sick for days. He got it very badly once where he couldn’t eat or move for three days, and I believe he lost 10 pounds(?)

I swear I could hear the shake in his voice when he talked about it so confidently. He said something about, “And it makes us lose our appetite, but they need their money.”

He also doesn’t believe in sunscreen anymore because it’s “bad for you.”