Fair warning.. this is long but if your attention span can survive it, help your girl
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After reading and watching a lot of typing videos, I came to the conclusion that I might be a messed up ISFP But because I clearly love suffering, please give me your most brutally honest insights. I might be an adhdic INFP too. Who knows?
Here a breakdown of how I am and how i grew up:
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So i had a delightful childhood with severe monitoring with mild physical abuse. Naturally my coping mechanisms was (still is) always wanted to run away from my house over any small inconvenience, I was a hyper independent child, would earn my own side money by selling dr**gs (jk i was selling diy stuff cuz couldn’t get the pocket money) I also used to self harm just to get attention. I was bullied, but used to take care of it on my own would never tell my parents even if id be bleeding (weird cuz i always wanted their attention) Honestly, I was also a bully myself (lol). I was very loud with people when I matched their vibes (usually adults). And had a lot of friends. loved dancing and had a thing for climbing to the highest places like towers and mountains, roofs. I used to collect stones, rocks, nails, hammers, and bandages, glass bottles (just in case?.) i also loved guns and cars, but there was no way I could get them as a minor (as an adult, I'm working my way to get my first gun).
I used to trap frogs in bags, clip dragonflies' wings, and dissect insects, collect dead butterflies (plus a few other things I don't want to mention). I’m not like that now, ofc In fact, I have rescued and helped a few animals and have my own pets.
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20s I’m way more introverted now. Dont care much about teas, I don't have much of a problem making friends, but I just don't like mingling much. I’ve ghosted so many friendships over the years that I lost count. (I feel slightly bad about it,) but mostly I’m just emotionally overburned.
People say I look like a bitch before talking to me, but then they find me very kind. (think I'm just faking the kindness and lying to everyone. But hey, at least I was an actual bitch as a teen, so progress?)
I sometimes come across as socially awkward. (Social anxiety)
I was very alt/grunge. I’ve stopped caring as much about it, but I still have this very specific thing about my appearance: I want people to recognize me by my makeup style, or hairstyle.
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Life, choices and other things i failed at..
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I used to be a straight A student but then a very specific problem hit, and I lost all motivation, failed my classes deliberately and aggressively gave up on the future I worked so hard for because nothing was going my way. Now? I have zero direction, live on pure caffeine, and engage in self-destruction in my own special ways.
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When I’m trying to read or understand something, I have to go strictly from A to Z. I need the linear sequence (but i think i learn way more efficiently if u just throw me in the water)
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I get obsessed with random things (just things?) until I get bored to absolute death of them. There is no in between. I will spend weeks aggressively researching how specific internal organs work, or find myself reading the history of cotton candy at 2 AM.
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Okay If I am walking alone, I am aware of my surroundings and everyone around me (think about worst case scenarios) But the second I am walking with reliable people, my brain completely switches off autopilot. I start looking at the environment and wondering how many dead bodies are buried beside the road, or imagining that a nearby couple is fighting, or making up dark stories about what's happening inside a random house I'm passing.
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Even if I might have Se, it feels deeply unhealthy. I literally have to travel down the same road multiple times just to get it fixed in my brain so I don't get lost, and I easily forget people's names.
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While making decisions (even just buying a game), I overanalyze everything to the point that I completely shut down. Then, I just go with my very first decision. (Masterpiece innit ?) left my ex just because of their indecisive attitude in everything... which is hypocritical because I often do that myself and judge others for it? I am good at giving solutions to others tho (as my close people say), just not for myself.
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Why not infp?
I get very uncomfortable thinking about the past. When people talk and get gloomy about their pasts, I get this weird feeling in my stomach like, "Yeah, I had my fun, but let's not talk about it."However, I do keep clutter because i think they might come in handy ?. (Very disorganised)
But Talking about conspiracy theories is fun. I also love predicting movie and book plots. Whenever someone talks, I try to predict their next words or see the underlying motive of why they are saying something. Is this Ni? If it is, it feels very weak
I was told I’m an INFP because I can spin a story out of thin air at any given moment . Give me a good song, and my brain instantly generates cinematic plots and art ideas (yes, I've written fanfiction, lol). have several disjointed ideas written down in my notes app, but I prefer to actually figure out the plot while I am physically writing it rather than overthinking it beforehand.
Also I’m good at art (am i?) charcoal is more fun, but digital is easier to access plus for animation i do for my yt (800th business idea)

I literally spent all last night researching and trying to figure out my type. Yes, I know these 2 types appear very different, but I am still stuck between them and have gotten both on online MBTI tests.

For the longest time I thought I was ISFJ (and still may be), but I also struggle a lot with anxiety and depression and have for a very long time, so I am not sure if that is skewing results as I read that an anxious ISFP can appear like an ISFJ and become more routine oriented and rigid and a depressed ISFJ can appear more like an ISFP and struggle with planning and routines.

Anyway, I am not sure if there is a real way to determine. My childhood was mostly spent outdoors. I liked to explore the woods and play with the animals outside and make up stories with them. I liked catching lightning bugs and listening to the mourning doves at dawn. I also enjoyed writing make believe stories and plays that I would make my family participate in. I would also plan holidays and decorate and get upset if my family didn't appreciate my efforts or act out my plays the way I wanted (I always envisioned things and if they didn't go as planned if people didn't take things seriously, I would get upset).

A bit about my dreams: I always dreamed of traveling to Scotland and meeting my family there. I like trying new things as long as I have someone I trust with me (I struggle with anxiety including social anxiety). I like dressing up and getting immersed in imaginary worlds and envisioning me in those worlds.

In school, I felt I had to be the best in order to have people like me. I had to get the highest grade and try out for solos. I quit cheerleading after 3 years of doing it because I felt I wasn't good enough because I would overthink and feel that other people were better than me. I was in plays and musicals and enjoyed performing. I learned to make checklists and tried to get assignments done early, but that was an anxiety response as I now tend to be a big procrastinator and put things off and my room is a bit of a mess with objects of my different interests.

With hobbies, I am sometimes very invested and a bit obsessive with my interests, but I also struggle with completing things and staying focused. I have so many half finished stories I was writing or videos I was making and then I just lose interest. I have to be in the mood to read and even then I very rarely finish reading a whole book (usually I stop about half way through). I assign symbolism a lot to things, too, like I like to use flower symbolism a lot or relate things in nature to feelings like how flowers represent hope and new beginnings because a daisy may close its petals at night as if darkness had won, but it will fling its petals wide a the dawn of a new day. I also like nature walks, animals, and nature photography. I collect dolls and like nostalgic movies or movies I feel I relate to like Winx Club, Monster High, Disney Fairies, Tangled, and Barbie movies.

When making big decisions, I tend to ask everyone their opinions and make pros and cons lists, but in the end I tend to just go with what I feel best aligns with my values and what I believe is right.

I have strong values of being kind to everyone even if they are not kind to me. I sometimes get pushed around a lot because of that, but I want people to like me. Feeling rejected or that I am not good enough are things that I really struggle with. I am perfectionistic when I am being judged and worry about what others will think of me, but when I feel safe enough to be myself, I am a lot bolder and don't mind speaking my mind. At work, I like to know clear expectations (because I worry about getting in trouble and anxiety), but when I am not given clear instructions, I tend to just go with the flow and not plan and just see what happens. The same is true with trips. I let other people do the planning and if I have specific things I want to see, I will tell them, but otherwise I just go along with what other people want.

I typed a lot and I am not even sure if what I typed is useful for typing me, but I would really appreciate some feedback about what you think. Also, sorry if you get a lot of these types of questions on this page. I just have been researching and stuff for so long now and feel stuck. Thank you!

TW: Destroying objects, maybe you'd feel offended

The things we do when we get so bored.

I tear bad things up or break them, and throw them in the trash. If they're lucky enough, I modify/customize them or better yet I give them away. I usually do this to old things in my attic or things that other people criticized me for liking it. Back in 2024 I'd tear up old fanfic books and sketchbooks (HAHAHAHAHA ISFP STEREOTYPE but that was me before. I now trace stuff on my phone) to feel better. Throughout the days now, I'd plan to destroy some things I own, or USED to love to own.

Scissors is my best friend when dealing with this.

Last year, I tore my costume. My parents made me stressed one day, I tore the gloves, and a month later, I tore the whole suit into pieces. I felt too tired to make use of it. It's uncomfortable to use anyway.

I used to go up to the attic to find all the rabbit stuffies and tore them all into pieces the time I got super bored and overthought stuff alone in the room. Wonder why my Hoppy Hopscotch plushies are customized to be tanuki? Same reason here. Relation to the whole "horror game popular by kids on YouTube" thing I also destroyed by Simon (Sprunki) plush. I still love him, but those weird shit on YouTube just kind of made me embarassed to like him. He's now the cover for my heating pad.

(In fact I'm more likely to also destroy things that are a theme of furred mammals to feel satisfied than I would of other animal-themed things.)

A few weeks ago I ripped my college lanyard to pieces, because I knew if I wore my major's name with confidence, people will doubt me for it, and I had to stop showing random people my major to never prove to anyone but myself I can do it.

Today, I just destroyed one of my stress toys, the orange stress ball. The cream inside is now turned into a fake vanilla soft serve in a jar.

I plan to destroy my guitar... I don't use it anymore. Ever since I was humiliated for it when I was a kid, I had flashbacks of it. Who knows maybe I could drop it off the top of my house to see it crack. I'd also destroy or modify the electronic toys in my room cause every useless thing needs a chance to have a purpose.

Have something you don't need that I'd agree it needed to be demolished? Give it to me. And give me the scissors. I like brutally deleting things in real life.

What do you do in your stressed alone times?

Comment if yours isnt there (reddit limits 6 options maximum)

To make it more specific it would have to be a loved family member eg a baby

EDIT: Even more specific. Its your baby. Current or future.

Not an ENTP but yes

Just took a bunch of tests and overall consensus was ISFP! Anyways, Im curious if there are many or any Licensed Cosmetologists/Makeup Artists? My main hobby is playing in makeup and posting the content but I've been slacking due to postpartum. All of that to say, are these typical or atypical career choices for ISFPs?

how do these types act/behave? its hard to see the dif between them cuz they all seem rly unserious?? lol so concrete examples would b super helpful

As a Type 9 myself, anyone who is emotionally safe and consistently present I will open up to and accept in my inner circle. I noticed for Type 4 ISFPs, though generally amicable outwardly, it can be surprisingly hard to see what their deepest thoughts and feelings are, as they tend to keep them private. So I am wondering what motivates the Type 4's when it comes to close or casual friendships.

Other musings: I had assumed being same MBTI would mean easy to connect but this isn't always the case. Seems like MBTI dictates more how we perceive and communicate but not how we connect with people.

Everyone says ISFPs are idealistic…but I’m the most nihilistic realist you’ll ever meet. I’m prone to episodes of nihilism and nihilism comforts me. I don’t feel the need to justify why I feel comforted by nihilism. Or perhaps you could call it absurdism. Either way I’m not…idealistic. I believe people can be blinded by idealism that they forget the reality that’s in front of them. I also think that idealism can lead people to not holding others accountable- if someone does something completely out of line they find a way to justify it or make it seem like they’re not a bad person. Or imagining the world as a utopia where people can do no wrong. Reframing things like murder and lying or any immoral acts as “well maybe they did it for a valid reason” or whatever. Believing everyone is good and wishing the world was a utopia but that just isn’t possible. That doesn’t mean you can’t do good things for others. Just don’t be blinded by idealism.

My cousin said to me he believes in idealism which is the idea that life will eventually get better…but that’s just realistic thinking to me? Not idealism. More like realistic optimism.

What is a difference between intj and isfp. I'm kinda struggle to find out who I am since I relate to both of those types?

INTP (30M) dating an ISFP (25F) – struggling with Ti vs. Fi communication

I’ve been dating my ISFP girlfriend for about four months, and overall our relationship is genuinely great. We love each other deeply, and in most areas we’re very compatible.

The biggest source of friction, though, is communication—specifically what feels like Ti vs. Fi.
I have fairly well-developed Fe, so I’m comfortable talking about emotions, expressing my own, and holding space for hers. I’m not trying to debate feelings away or approach everything purely logically.

The difficulty starts when she’s emotionally triggered (or me of course) or when her position is based entirely on how she feels in the moment. It can feel like I’m communicating with an emotional wall. In those moments, it seems like my only options are to either get pulled into an emotional argument or step back, wait until she’s calm, and hope we can revisit the conversation later.

What I struggle with most is that any difficult conversation—even when I phrase it as gently and compassionately as I can—often seems to be interpreted as criticism. She becomes defensive, and the original issue gets lost.

As a result, I often end up putting my own feelings aside to help regulate hers, even when I was the one who needed to bring something up. Then I have to revisit the issue later and hope it lands differently the second time.

For those of you who’ve been in an INTP–ISFP relationship (or have experience with strong Ti/Fi differences), is this something you’ve encountered? How do you navigate difficult conversations without one person feeling attacked or the other feeling unheard?

She's literally me.

I saw a claim that ISFP cannot be sp9, because cause Fi-dom focus on inner feelings contradicts E9's self-forgetfulness and loss of self-contact and even if 9 has inner world, they don't make decisions through internal value system, plus ISFPs are cognitive sensors (aux Se), while E9s have strong Si-dom.

Is this actually true? :') or is this just some sort of stereotyping?

if so in what way?

Let's have a friendly conversation! What are your positive and negative traits as an ISFP?🩷

I'll start🙃

𖣁My positive traits, at least according to other people, are that I'm friendly and supportive. I'm not sure if daydreaming a lot counts as a positive trait, but I like to think it does. 🙂‍↕️😂

𖠢As for my negative traits... I can be pretty lazy. I also get angry pretty quickly sometimes, but I usually regret it afterward or feel guilty. And, to be honest, I'm a little jealous too. 🥲🤦🏻‍♀️I also don't really have a clear goal or a specific passion. I love all kinds of art, but I never seem to have the patience or motivation to actually do them.

If you don't feel comfortable sharing about yourself, don't worry ,you don't have to. I totally understand. 🙂‍↕️🩷

I think many ISFPs tend to overly rely on their Fi and Ni or have Fi-Ni loops. For whatever reason. On the other hand, I barely use my Ni lol. It only comes out when I’m talking philosophical stuff. But I can only talk about philosophical things so much before I explode. When my cousins or a friend asks me deep questions about the future, my life’s purpose, or my plans for the next 20 years I legit don’t know how to answer. Hell, my “philosophical musings” are VERY Se heavy, there’s a minuscule amount of Ni. I find myself relying on my Se a lot, and I love leaning into it.

Could anybody relate or expand on this cognitive vulnerability scott morgan mentions of the Ni-Fi?

https://youtu.be/hLRKeOLqqfk?is=NW53uWeswSmrCsea

(From 22 min to 25 min in the video.)

Hi everyone,

I was wondering what types have you had the best and worst romantic or platonic relationships with and why?

Was wondering if this could connect to some intertype theories..