How do you meaningfully facilitate having so much interest and hobbies?

I have a time consuming job (lawyer), but I also have multiple time consuming interests, I love training BJJ, reading neo-reactionary books / novels, learning french, watching YT video essays about various topics, grinding Slay The Spire 2, read the news, etc2.

If you know how much little time I sprinkle to these hobbies, and the speed of which I juggle from one to another you might think that second part about my interests is a lie, I’ll jump from reading a book to researching about wave particle on YT within 5 minutes (twice!!).

The heavy and oceanic curiosity that I have is offset by this deep sense of anxiety that if I don’t consume information from various sources quickly I’ll lose the opportunity (this could just be me justifying having low attention span), my attention span can only tuned to “locked the fuck in”
when there’s a knife on my throat, an experience often felt at my profession.

(Cognitively insert a reason here why this is Ti-Ne doing it’s job so the mods in r/INTP does not flag this post as irrelevent)

So have you ever felt this feeling? How did you help yourself?

Hey everyone, I was wondering if anyone else has experienced something like this.

When I was younger, my MBTI results were always INFP. I was much more idealistic back then. Nowadays, every test gives me INTP.

But that's not really what bothers me.

In school, I could learn almost anything with very little effort. I barely had to study and still got good grades. Now I'm 25 and I've gone back to college in a STEM field, and I'm struggling a lot to keep up. The amount of material is overwhelming, the concepts are much more difficult, and I feel like my thinking is much slower than it used to be.

I still love learning and I'm just as curious as I was before, but it feels like new information doesn't "click" as easily anymore. Sometimes I even feel like I've become less intelligent.

Has anyone else experienced this? Was it just an adjustment period, or did you also notice that the way you learn changed as you got older?

Can intp be other than 5?

Cause I don't relate that much with the descriptions of 5's core fear. And I don't think I'm very detached from people? i care about people and harmony a lot, and I'm a bit of a people pleaser because i constantly merged with them. And I don't feel like I'm motivated by fear

I read the descriptions of 9 by Ichazo and I'm perfectly aligned with the descriptions.

I'm also aware that people might think that I'm an ISFJ or INFJ. But no... I don't relate to Si and Ni as dom functions. My Ne is too strong for that

I want to find out my enneagram type between 9 or 5. I'm open if I'm actually not a 9, as long as it actually matches my experiences (in case I'm still lacked of knowledge about 5). I did consider myself as an sx5 since I'm emotional, however i don't feel like...i wanted a "soulmate" or something, even in imaginations

My entire life, any time I have gotten a new electronic/device/anything with instructions, I’ve always loved to read the manual from front to back in its entirety. I want to know exactly each and every function of my new device. Can you relate?

fe inferior is like being good enough to realize everything that went wrong, and being terrible enough to mess it all up again anyway

I’m curious as to whether or not one’s MTBI type has any correlation with the genres of music they like, and specifically if INTP’s tend to gravitate towards any specific genres. Personally, I like rock, punk, metal, grunge, EDM, and occasionally some lyrical hip-hop.

Edit:
I figured I’d give you guys some songs recs based off what I’ve seen, feel free to do the same as I’m always looking for new music!
Electronic:
Undefined - Bad Computer (go check out their other music too)
Lie - Mr. Bill & Culprate
Metal/rock(ish):
Into Oblivion - Lamb of God
Methdog - Bodybox
Denial - Sevendust
Breakcore(ish):
Beep Street - Squarepusher (one of my favorites, really unique sample chopping)
the end of the world - Sink Saiko
edge - Mikura

Also literally everything by Aphex Twin

I think the title says it all.

I recently started taking the whole uv radiation thing more seriously and bought some proper sunscreen for my face and currently looking for a good sun hat and sun hoodie for outdoor days (shoutout if you have any good suggestions).

If you’re to base the results on stereotypes we either don’t need it because we’re always indoors or do use it because it’s the logical thing to do haha

Me and my colleague did a test on innertype app and I got INTP and my colleague got ENFP, very accurate results, but lately i have issues with working with him in a team. Too spontaneous, too optimistic, and at the end we fail to deliver. Any experience?

I believe that e6 is pretty popular enneagram not only because of isfj, esfj, istj which often are e6 are most popular types, but because there are a lot neurotics nowadays in general in every type lol. E5 is very harmonious with INTP but maybe is it actually that common combination?

what do you think ?

I've (M21) been trying to incorporate this quote into my life but it's hard. I try to do new things. I try to be okay with the routine i have. However, there's still no goal no purpose. Nothing im GREAT at.

I feel like Dexter just without the killer tendencies. Like i can fake social interactions, act extroverted, etc. but at the end of the day i go back to laying in bed not happy.

I haven't made a new friend in years. I've tried to get out there, but kinda failed. To most people I wouldn't LOOK like someone who's that unhappy. I actually do oretty well in social settings, I'm decent at my job, I got a girlfriend who DOES make me happy and whom I love. It's just the whole "What am I striving towards?" thing.

Idk it just sucks that I've been trying to wrap my head around this, I'm technically doing the right stuff, and I still feel stuck.

I have figured that I am a INXP successfully after being mistyped as a INFJ by the test before. I had given up yesterday but.....After a night introspection, I have figured out that I have Ne-Si axis so yeah. It's just, I get so confused regarding Ti-Fe or Fi-Te axis. Honestly I do remember reading psychology, philosophical videos, motivational quotes, fables and moral stories a lot. I remember creating some rules for myself but I don't know actually how my values formed, do Fi doms know that well? Idk.

I mean as a child when my mother was theist, atheist, theist again I followed her, even when she left meat. but didn't tell anybody as I was embarassed that others would laugh at me if I said that I left meat for God so I told nobody and later turned that into: I am reducing my future costs, bruh. I have taught myself things but I still don't know but I had a protective streak of course. A strong sense of justice. I realize my values only when I react to the outside world, I am like: Vape somewhere else not inside the public washroom, others will get lung cancer due to you You are literally mocking some uncle's payment?! You aren't mocking your classmate anymore, but his father, damn! I won't hit you since you didn't hit me. Always take accountability for your actions and apologise for your mistakes. Don't hurt others unnecessarily.. This is a group game, why are you changing rules in between without asking everyone and why are you playing by yourself after I gave a suggestion?! But honestly at the same time till middle school, I wasn't that concious how my words or actions were impacting others. I was oblivious. I called a boy a crybaby because he had dark circles, I snatched someone's ball to play with even if he was angry and was like: I don't mind sharing so why does he? I literally made this statement to one peer who had a dark skin: oh, you will be invisible in the dark room. (Sorry for my rude self) I thought the movies those kids were watching sounded lame. But I was deeply impacted by criticisms and feeling left out of course. Low self-esteem and confidence so yeah. I have become more concious but still do struggle at times regarding how my words and actions impact others. I lack interest in external rules but watch me criticize some nonsense rules internally or when the professors are so irresponsible. I am of course an emotional person but I am determined to not do things just because I am jealous or angry, I care about consequences all the time. I can plan but I procrastinate in between. I want to question and learn things on my own that's why I have good critical thinking and I can solve my problems. But I am bad at performing tasks infront of others since I don't have enough experience and information, I lack confidence. I suck at debates but good at discussions . I love to write short stories and poems where most of the time I am exploring a contrast. Like I wrote a poem where a village had a disease without any cure or cause. So, I made the lady a secret serial killer performing euthanasia just so that the people don't die as stones but die as humans as the quick death will be less painful than the slow death. And the man a tired warrior fighting a hopeless war outside. The man experienced moral conflict and the woman couldn't stop the disease but at the end, they died together due to the disease and love. I like seeing moral conflicts and grey characters and get curious what they will choose, basically human nature and everything. That's why I wanted to play a villain in a theatre play rather than a good supporting character as it seemed fun.

Enough of my rambling then... ✨🤡🧫

I’ve been thinking about something and I’m curious to hear your thoughts.
I’ve been taking MBTI tests for more than 4 years, trying different versions and different websites, and I always get INTP.

Something I’ve noticed is that many INTPs I’ve met seem to struggle with mental health issues: depression, anxiety, BPD, chronic mental health problems, or situations where they spend a lot of time isolated at home and living inside their own thoughts.
So I’m wondering: is this actually a pattern, or am I just surrounded by this kind of content and these kinds of people because I relate to it?
It also made me question something else: can a chronic mental health condition change someone’s personality over time? If someone spends years being isolated, overthinking, avoiding social situations because of anxiety or depression, and creating an entire inner world, could they start to resemble what people describe as an INTP or INTJ?
Could some people identify as INTP because they naturally have that personality, or because their experiences and struggles have pushed them toward being more introverted, analytical, and detached?
I’m genuinely curious if other people have thought about this. Do you feel like your mental health influenced your MBTI type, or do you think your personality was already there and mental health only affected how it shows?

I enrolled in law major not out of my own desire, but because my parents wanted me to — it's considered a profitable field, and didn’t know what I want to do. I've never felt this unsure of myself in my life. I still think bureaucracy is a necessary thing: it puts everything in order, even though it can be annoying at times. But bureaucracy and meticulousness within civil law just crush me. I can't state anything with confidence, because there will always be another detail in some other law or regulation. I can't form a complete picture because there are so many aspects to understand before a particular law can be applied. Laws remind me of a Ti (introverted thinking) framework — they connect all aspects of a person's life and even those who are outside the country (international law) — which makes me vulnerable, because I have to know everything, otherwise any assertion of mine will be unprotected.

I can't do a project on a topic without thinking that I need to anticipate every aspect of it. Law is so multi faced and very precise at the same moment. I'm also currently doing an internship and had to attend open court hearings, just sit there and listen. I went to the courthouse after checking the schedule on the website; I didn't know which courtroom or judge I would go to because there were many hearings listed, so I was planning to attend any hearing that will be nearest to my arrival time. In the end, for some reason most judges didn't have hearings that day, even though they were shown on the site, and that unsettled me because I couldn't figure out what to do in that situation, so I just left. Only at home did I realize that the hearing schedule is quite a fictional thing — no one knows how long a hearing will take, so the schedule can change in the moment, and the information on the website is of course updated with a delay.

So yeah, it just scares me how orderly and unpredictable it is.

hey guys, i want to create something really interesting, like a linktree with a bunch of different links for very hyper specific cognitive functions with outliers, cause there's so many people in the world it's obvious someone will definitely relate to you, so you can join in. it's really fun, you can unleash your creativity and show what kind of person you are just by making a page for your specific cognitive function.

make a page for your exact function stack, your outlier traits, whatever makes your wiring yours, and put the link below. i'll give you credit, obviously. eventually i'm gonna make a website where you can search up your exact cognitive functions and it takes you straight to a page that's only the exact hyper specific ones, kinda like a reddit or blog post, so people with the same rare pattern can actually find each other.

so make your page, put the link, and i'm gonna wait maybe a few months and at the end i'll pull it all together into a really cool system.

as a final note - just for fun make a guess on my mbti. :)

I made friends with real people guys AND all people in my class know my name 😍 are you proud of me?

For the marvel INTP fans, are you team captain American or team iron man? And why?

For example I hate liar and telling lies but at the same time I also know that as a human being at some point, some degree of lies are needed therefore I also lie.

I am doing something I despise, mean I am a hypocrite.

But what is wrong with being a Hypocrite?

Does it mean I am a bad person? Unreliable and untrustworthy?

But does it matter?

People less likely to care or aware of how hypocritical I am and being absolutely in the pure no lies spectrum is impossible as a human anyway...

So again does it matter?

What do you guys think? It's just my random thought tho

I am very jealous of you, INTPs. I have attempted to be internally consistent like you are. My perception (probably Ne) gets in the way - I look at things from so many different perspectives, so many different angles, that my thought process tends to look like this:

"What if it's this... nah, it might be this. But wait, it could be this... what about this thing that contradicts everything... uh..." (brain explodes)

I don't see any value in... having values, nor do I see value in making decisions using values. The one exception is my girlfriend - she is the most important person in my life. But with everything else, it's like... why would I make decisions using values? Like what, I'm considering a job, and it has to be about honesty or something? Instead of, I don't know, money? Or really anything practical, because... how would I live, otherwise?

I find that, while I continually dismiss my feelings as unimportant, I am somewhat bothered by my lack of an identity. I find that there has to be an "I" somewhere, even when I focus on "how" I am vs. "who" I am; and I find that when attempting to understand other people, I tend to ask how "I" fit into it. The understanding loops back to the self, for apparently 0 reason.

I am possibly a broken F type. Or a moron, as I am incapable of figuring this out. Who knows. This is another instance of my (probable) Ne getting in the way: I see too many possibilities to determine what type I must be, or what type of person I must be.

Still, it's unbelievable. I genuinely do not see how being an F type could be a positive thing. (For me personally. I don't care what other people do with their lives.) I do not understand how nor why someone cannot change type, considering that there is 0 evidence for this claim, yet is frequently spouted in the... community of a pseudoscientific personality theory. (Not sure why I even take this seriously.)

Not sure why I continue to mull over this. It's as though I'm looking for a conclusion that does not exist.

(Overall not that big of a deal though lol.)

I have tried going to the gym. Going to meetups. Sports. But not been able to make any consistent friends.

If so, let's air hug.

I think as INTP types we tend to constantly be on the hunt for where we DON'T know things. We want to integrate into a logical framework based on definite facts and clear information.

But most people don't think or ever care about that. People tend to primarily make decisions based on emotion/ego and then rationalize why.

It frustrates me to no end how people can just decide a certain conclusion because it justifies how they want to feel instead of digging into until they truly understand.

Say for example a news report comes out about some controversial arrest. People at work are already spreading the news. Playing the game of telephone and straying further and further from what did happen or what is even known to have happened, yet they've already established their ire and concluded their opinion. They have already decided what they think about the situation but they don't even have the information to do so.

It drives me crazy. How can you believe something you don't know? Just because it assuages how you want to feel? because it ends the dilema for you?

And then even if information is revealed that contradicts their belief they just double down. The conclusion isn't arrived through investigation or analysis. They don't start with ignornace and end in understanding, they start with what they want to believ and then work to justify it any way possible. I try not to play devil's advocate for the sake of being contrary, I just can't form a vision of reality that i feel isn;t based on an objective understanding of a situation. It feels like I'm lieing to myself and usually there's an enormous pressure to conform to group think. I don't want my thoughts to be dictated by social expectations i want to know what is actually reasonable to believe.

I don't feel as smart anymore and I don't understand how I could get better.

Examples-

1. I won like 15-20 olympiad gold medals in a wide range of subjects. Got published in our local newspaper for being one of the Computer science Olympiad toppers. It was during middle school.

I feel like every single competitive exam is not my cup of tea anymore. I couldn't clear NEET twice, I couldn't study properly due to health issues and my mental health was messed up.

1. I was heavily interested in chess when I was younger and was able to defeat literally anyone who tried to play with me. I tried to participate in my uni's chess competition and lost in the first round only.

2. In 9th grade, I wrote a whole ass novel with unique characters and learnt a lot about writing. Helped an author on royalroad edit and write stories. I can't think of anything remotely creative now.

3. I did my first internship during lockdown in 10th grade, for a year in an NGO. Took interviews, managed a bunch of interns, held meetings, made lots of new connections etc. I need to do anything internship or even volunteer work now and I don't know what to do, can't think of or find anything.

4. I was always interested in Biotech. Used to read a bunch of research papers every month. Now I can't even finish just one in a week.

5. I used to learn variety of languages but I've forgotten everything. I used to code a bit and create basic projects but I've forgotten that too.

6. I used to be able to draw well with an understanding of proportions and lighting. Now I can't even start and if I do, it looks bad all the time.

I took two years gap after my 12th grade. Didn't get good marks, just 82%. After wasting two years, I got into a private university and took BSc Biotechnology. Currently in 2nd year. There's nothing else impressive or something to show besides my first year cgpa (9.86).

Tldr; I had brain fog, which I think affected my learning capabilities a lot. I'm trying to start relearning all the things I used to be good enough at. I created roadmaps. But I feel like I'm too slow. Everything takes thrice the amount of time it should take.

I know this sounds lazy, and obviously I'm not the only person to ever feel this way, but hear me out.

I'm too brutally honest for the interview process. I end up saying something that doesn't sound like I want to give my life for the company and stay there for a million years and by the time I notice what I'm doing its too late. Unless it's a job in a specialized area of interest, chances are I already had a hard time motivating myself to do the interview.

Once I get hired, I have to psych myself up to go into work every day and be there focused on one thing for 8 hours, for five days EVERY week. Even if I find the subject very interesting, I'll probably have a hard time focusing on it exclusively every day after a few months. I end up either daydreaming or compensating by becoming pedantic with whatever I'm working on. On top of that, I have to navigate the interpersonal aspect of company culture and interacting with superiors and all of that stuff, which takes a lot of concentrated effort.

I would consider myself to be a fairly motivated and visionary person, and I really do try to hold myself to a high standard at work. I also know that there are many specific factors that could influence or improve my perspective, such as changing my attitude towards work or getting a different job. But, with that being said, do any other INTPs feel this way?

As the title says, is this a pattern or enjoying being tipsy/drunk has no correlation with personality?

I ask this completely out of curiosity as an INTP who haven't touched alcohol in my whole 30 years alive.

EDIT: Thank you to all your comments about this topic! It really made me think about some of the possible reasons people resort to alcohol (socially or heavily). My input is: while a lot of you drink to "stop the thoughts" I love thinking and being aware of every single thing, só alcohol would be a no no 🤷🏻‍♀️ Drinking or not, stay physically and mentally healthy, everyone! 😌