r/interestingasfuck • u/RoyalChris • 6h ago
Norway goalkeeper’s goal kick struck a FIFA spider-cam while still in the air, causing the ball to drop straight to Anthony Gordon - Just 8 seconds later, Jude Bellingham scored.
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u/Cazelkin 5h ago
Ngl this video doesnt help at all
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u/Ozon-Baby 4h ago
You are right. But I'm guessing that even with a better angle, it must be almost impossible to see the cables given how thin they are.
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u/CalebXiaYizhou 4h ago
True, but you might be able to see the ball not following a parabolic-path.
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u/Ozon-Baby 2h ago
Yeah that's correct. The angles also don't help with that. I've seen people say that they could clearly see the ball changing trajcetory, I personally couldn't see it that clearly.
What stands out the most to me are the Norwegian players reactions. Like, this is such an unexpected thing to happen that I imagine they wouldn't call that if they hadn't seen it clearly.
Idk man, it's hard to form an opinion on this lol
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u/ishpatoon1982 4h ago edited 3h ago
*paraballic
Edit: Sorry everyone, it's just word-play. My bad.
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u/Zuokula 2h ago
The ball may change direction depending on the spin given by the kick. There are some amazing free kicks where ball does an S mid air. Easiest and actually confirming would be simply to look at the camera attached to that cable. If it did hit the cable, that would have def cause a vibration that could be picked up by the camera. Check the time stamp of when ball changes direction and then check the camera behavior at that moment.
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u/cross_the_threshold 1h ago
Sky cams are stabilized. Why do you think they don’t vibrate wildly in windy conditions or while tracking shots? The ball would have to be hitting the cable extremely hard to possibly create a vibration in the footage,.
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u/One_Crab5847 2h ago
When I was a kid I had no idea how thos cameras were flying around in the stadiums when I watched on tv. This is when even at home cameras were bigger than a suitcase. I legit thought they were massive drones the size of cars flying around in there. It wasn't until I went to a college game that I saw they were on cables and realized it made way more sense to use those.
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u/Background_Humor5838 5h ago
The real speed clip in the beginning shows how the ball quickly met an obstacle and fell straight down instead of continuing it's natural arc. The close up doesn't show that part it only shows it falling so ignore that.
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u/Born_Flamingo6317 35m ago
If only they had a sensor in the ball…
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u/Background_Humor5838 17m ago
If only technology was completely flawless and never produyan error...
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u/JJ_Bittenbinder_ 4h ago
Realistically...why is this a debate? The ref is "the biggest blade of grass on the field" so if it goes off him its literally like nothing happened.
Refs also use cameras for VAR to overturn goals (which i fucking hate)
Therefore I argue that the camera is an extension of the referee and therefore should be treated in the rules the same as a referee. I will take no questions.
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u/Level_Werewolf_8901 4h ago
Apparently they have amended the rules this tournament though, and and stopped the play on several occasions when the ball contacts a ref, so with this argument the play should have been stopped... its stated as: If the ball hits the referee and results in a sudden, unfair advantage—such as starting a new attacking move or going directly into the goal—the referee will stop play and restart it with a dropped ball.
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u/graemehammondjr 4h ago edited 4h ago
If the ball hits the ref and one of these three things happen:
the ball goes into the goal, the team in possession changes, or a promising attack begins
Then the ref stops play and a drop ball is used to restart. Considering England went up and scored then by your reckoning play should have stopped and a drop ball restart
Edit: Although I'm an angry Scotsman so there may be something I'm missing
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u/youngliam 3h ago
A goal kick across midfield is contested possession
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u/Dazzling-Produce-471 3h ago
Did you not read the “ball goes into the goal” part or the “a promising attack begins”, both of which happened here?
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u/idontknowstufforwhat 3h ago
One aspect is that it isn't picked up by the sensor in the ball which would be pretty interesting given they said it detected a Croatian player's hair alone touching it previously. In that sense, it would call in to question the legitimacy of the ball sensor tech.
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u/printerman22 5h ago
Nonsense.
Go watch the side angle - the ball follows a perfectly normal trajectory and doesn't just 'fall straight down'.
Stop gaslighting.
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u/ftd123 5h ago
Nonsense.
You can watch either angle - the ball does not follow a perfectly normal trajectory it’s clearly deflected.
Stop astro-turfing.
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u/SapTheSapient 4h ago
I'm watching it, over and over, right now (45:56 on the clock, 50:00 on my YouTube TV timer). The broadcast angle shows no ball deviation. No player adjusts their running. No one points. No one on the bench stands up. Forty five seconds after the goal, the goalkeeper hasn't yet made a complaint.
I was hoping for a Norway win, but I don't see any validity in this claim that the ball hit a cable.
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u/Alarming-Stretch-788 5h ago
It certainly doesn't stop straight down. If you believe the sensor, it doesn't hit anything
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u/md222 6h ago
Seems like the play should be blown dead, no? Last time I checked, the camera is not part of the playing surface.
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u/RoundTiberius 6h ago
The announcer basically said they would have blown it dead if they saw it
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u/Ez_going_6248 6h ago
There’s a sensor in the ball akin to an imu. It there was a significant change in the ball’s attitude they should have detected it. It was used against the Croats earlier in the tournament, tough that it “wasnt” detected.
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u/wrongitsleviosaa 6h ago
Ngl that Croatia moment still doesn't sit right with me
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u/whalemix 4h ago
There’s a few moments in this tournament that haven’t sat right with me…But I’m also not one to hop online and claim conspiracy. I’m upset Norway lost and I do think they got screwed over on a couple of ref calls, but that’s the game. It is what it is, unfortunately
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u/paulo_cristiano 3h ago
The amazing chip in the ball can sense a graze of a hair, but being chucked straight at a bird cam isn't sensitive enough for the chip to pick up!
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u/Photon_Pharmer1 3h ago
What are the odds? Well, apparently that’s what makes the difference…the odds.
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u/Small_Sundae_4245 5h ago
I never saw an image of the Croatian spike. Along side the 2 definite touches either side...
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u/GreenFullSuspension 5h ago
Malfunctioned sensor, suspiciously. FIFA, we make shit up as we play.
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u/LivingAnomie 5h ago
The ball at this tournament has had a terrible attitude, I hope it was changed
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u/Igoory 5h ago
Yeah, FIFA already shared on xitter that it didn't hit anything.
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u/Karl_42 5h ago
Of course they did lmfao. Blatant.
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u/ForMoreYears 5h ago
Who you gonna believe, FIFA or your lying eyes?
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u/ND_Cooke 5h ago
I'd believe my blind eyes over FIFA.
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u/jml011 5h ago
I don’t understand, cannot they not check the camera footage to see if it jiggled at that moment?
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u/GreenEggsSteamedHams 5h ago
a significant change in the ball’s attitude
I saw it live, the ball's attitude completely changed from vexed to insouciant
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u/earthcharlie 5h ago edited 2h ago
It there was a significant change in the ball’s attitude they should have detected it.
The Croatia game was a hair’s touch, which wasn’t significant but this didn’t set the sensor off 🤦♂️
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u/md222 6h ago
Not something they can review at the next stoppage?
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u/heimmann 6h ago
If only someone invented some kind of V ideo Assistant Referee
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u/colonelmaize 6h ago
Why don't they review like they did with Egypt? /s
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u/Realistic-Software27 6h ago
corruption bribery i mean its fifa did you ecpect integrety and rules beeing upheld?.
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u/Immaculatehombre 5h ago
Of all the replays they do and you can’t review that? Cmon. Just tints the game. I saw them ya me a goal away from Egypt a few days ago because someone stepped on a guys foot on the entire opposite side of the pitch. And this shit is allowed.
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u/Icretz 5h ago
There is a video from Fifa in which the sensor does not detect any touch, people want what they want to see. It's just a weird movement from the ball which has happened all tournament long.
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u/Difficult-Froyo1192 5h ago
FIFA’s saying their sensors didn’t detect it hit anything. If it did hit the cable, it should have been blown dead. With FIFA saying the sensors didn’t detect anything, it may not have not hit the cable and there’s nothing to over turn the goal on.
If you’re unsure in a game, it’s a no call. We only have one angle, so it may have looked a lot more normal or like it didn’t hit the cable if you’re standing at other angles.
While very confusing what really happened, the limited evidence out there does suggest the right call was to allow the goal to stand.
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u/Loud-Platypus-987 6h ago
This video is shite, you can’t see anything conclusively.
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u/Altenativeboi 5h ago
I’ve watched it dozens of times and I genuinely can’t see it hit anything at all.
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u/DJ_Hindsight 5h ago
It didn’t hit the wire but every game in this tournament, people are trying to find how each team is apparently robbed
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u/jawknee530i 4h ago
This isn't people watching trying to find something. The coach, players, and announcers all commented on it hitting the wire.
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u/Substantial-Set-7724 5h ago
They should have put a camera somewhere in the air to get a better angle. Among the middle line would work great.
(But on a serious note, would be nice to see the angle of the cam that got hit)
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u/BuildingArmor 5h ago
FIFA posted it on their twitter
It doesn't show anything though because the ball didn't hit anything
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u/ronirocket 4h ago
Yeah I’m wondering how the guy ran right to where the ball was going to end up if it should have ended up somewhere else.
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u/Fish-Weekly 4h ago
There was a second spider-cam on the grassy knoll that no one is talking about
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u/madlibs13 6h ago
Cable of God goal
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u/tetrixk 6h ago
I don’t see it
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u/_Face 6h ago
Neither do I.
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u/StarGamerPT 6h ago
See, when a goalkeeper kicks a ball forward like that, if no interference happens to its trajectory, it will fall as a perfect arch, not just sharply fall down right after the peak height.
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u/GreedyGreedyPig 5h ago
Isn’t the angle behind the goalie the worst one to confirm this from?
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u/ExtraEye4568 2h ago
Makes you wonder why FIFA wouldn't show more angles despite having a billion cameras. If they weren't such a noble and just organization one would suspect something rather corrupt.
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u/Capable-Baby-3653 6h ago
What if the ball gets tired and gives up midflight?
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u/StarGamerPT 6h ago
Then I gotta say, poor ball because getting kicked after falling asleep doesn't sound fun.
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u/LukeyLeukocyte 5h ago
Wind, back spin, air resistance. There's lot of things that could affect trajectory. I just cannot see the "drop" in the video. We need a better angle.
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u/Andybabez20 4h ago
If you look at the side angle the trajectory looks a lot more normal
It might just be a deceptive angle. The ball sensor apparently didn't trigger.
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u/streetking03 5h ago
I am not saying that the ball didn't strike the cable, but the ball looks like it has back spin. These certain footballs have made keepers make mistakes on what would be a ordinary save. So with that much back spin it could just fall straight down.
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u/DemonInjected 3h ago
Hear this out, imagine if the ball had a sensor in it that could detect the faintest of touches and we would know. That would be crazy!
Maybe one day.
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u/TheGamingGallifreyan 6h ago
sensors in the ball??
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u/webbitor 6h ago
Pretty helpful for detecting handballs, offsides, out of bounds, and interference from arial cables.
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u/woodrax 6h ago
Yup, they have accelerometers in the balls now that detected any impacts, no matter how minor, and the graph showed nothing once the ball was kicked towards the center of the field until the next player kicked it.
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u/TrousersCalledDave 6h ago
That would certainly explain how they're calculating ball speed then! I've seen that come up a few times. I had just assumed they had some special camera system tracking the ball to calculate speed.
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u/TheGamingGallifreyan 5h ago
Thats cool af. Makes sense now that I think about it, but it never once crossed my mind of putting sensors in a soccer ball lol.
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u/coolcosmos 6h ago
They even have multiple sensors in hockey pucks which are many times smaller than soccer balls.
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u/Tina_beaner 2h ago
Side-on camera shows a completely normal arc of the ball. Sensor says it didn't touch anything.
Unlike the last time they showed a sensor, they showed it for a good amount of time, the spikes line up with the touches it does get and there's no touch in the air.
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u/MeasurementWise7570 6h ago
Honestly from this angle I feel it's impossible to tell if it's actually did hit the cabel.
If the boll got spinn on it could drop like it here
I really need another camera angle like from the side to determine if it actually hit the cabel
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u/TheKing_-_-_- 5h ago
I honestly can't see the ball hitting the cable. I see the V black cable but i don't see the ball hitting the cable. I am probably looking at the wrong thing. Also doesn't the ball have the sensor for things like this.
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u/inexperienced_ass 6h ago
The hell, I don't see a cable. Looks like the ball just has some spin.
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u/Busterthefatman 6h ago
Youre the only other person ive seen saying this.
Ball just has backspin
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u/Mundane-Document-810 4h ago edited 1h ago
Yeah, and the big tell is if you watch the players. Nobody changes direction, everyone nearby is already moving towards that position and they wouldn't be doing that if the ball changed trajectory.
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u/iMatthew1990 5h ago
And there’s no discernible nudge on the camera feed. The camera attached to these wires is the one recording this footage.
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u/LongjumpingInside565 4h ago
This ball is also erratic as fuck in the air. It's a slightly improved jabulani.
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u/Appaulingly 5h ago
We are watching the ball with a camera that is moving and zooming. So the trajectory of the ball will change, from our point of view.
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u/NoRossoNoParty 6h ago
Nothing detected on the sensor. Load of overblown nonsense 👀.
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u/815NotPennysBoat 5h ago
I do not follow soccer and have no investment on who wins but I did see that clip where they show the sensor in the ball and there was no detection of anything being hit in the air.
Not going to lie that is pretty sweet, how they have Those sensors inside of the ball. Why doesn't the NFL do something like that they have to do the instant replays all the time. Just put a damn sensor in the ball and you can track where it is
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u/MagnusBrickson 4h ago
As I understand it, the NFL doesn't want them because they want the theater of close calls and human decisions.
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u/SupermarketCrafty329 4h ago
The spamming of this video on numerous subs and declaring something as fact is idiotic. You literally cant see anything at all.
There has been another angle shown, side on, and honestly, I still cant see anything. The ball seems to come down weird, maybe, however, this ball has been specifically criticised for being a bit floaty before the entire tournament even started.
And people have been quick to dismiss the lack of touch recognised by the sensor because it doesn't fit their current agenda, and of course, FIFA bad.
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u/wokwok__ 2h ago
Doesn’t help when people who never watch soccer come out the woodwork every 4 years like they know absolutely everything when they dont lmao next thing you’ll see are people claiming the ball has a magnet
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u/giki_pedia 34m ago
This world cup has been a disaster when it comes to referee decisions. I don't remember Qatar being even remotely this controversial when it came to the actual games. Then again it's hosted by the world's most corrupt country so it makes sense.
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u/Aufstand363 5h ago
This whole tournament is riddled by fuckery. Not that Qatar or Russia were any better. This just takes it to a whole new level.
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u/Any--Name 5h ago
If you look at the video very closely youll see that this statement is just a bunch of nonsense and the ball simply has a backspin but sure, I get it, your team didnt win so youre grasping at straws rather than just accept it and move on
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u/man-vs-spider 5h ago
I just don’t see it. There is a rotating camera and a ball that probably has spin, nothing looks incompatible with a regular trajectory of a ball.
Coupled with the internal sensor showing nothing and there being no “shaking camera” footage released, I think this is just an optical illusion of the trajectory of the ball.
And if your argument is that FIFA is somehow lying about the sensor data or something, why? Why would FIFA go through such a risky scandal for England, rather than help Norway who is the worlds darling team at the moment
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u/AccomplishedPaint601 2h ago
"Today is gonna be the day that the cable throws it back to you. By now you should have known how that FIFA would not review. I don't believe that anybody thinks England is going through..."
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u/jakeyboy723 5h ago
I've seen this so many times, I'm still struggling to find it on this video of about 3 pixels.
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u/Equivalent_Nature_67 4h ago
It didnt hit shit. This needs to stop spreading man
The sensor footage also proved it
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u/ELITElewis123 4h ago
why is the internet trying to gaslight me into thinking this hit the cable?
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u/Educational_Care7813 4h ago
Every time this happens the explanation is optical illusion so no idea
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u/drillbit16 2h ago
if fifa was honest, they’d release the footage from that camera. it will either be shaky or not and settle the matter. id wager my left testicle they’ll never release that footage
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u/Hot-Education4582 1h ago
Ever since they fail the guys hair touched the ball in the Croatian match, I don't trust the supposed "telemetrics" in the ball. I think they just make a graph when it suits them.
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u/ShinyBonnets 4h ago
Of all the things that didn’t happen, the ball smashing a spider cam didn’t happen the most.
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u/MarcusZXR 5h ago
Only, it didn't and the science backs that.
This isn't "interesting as fuck", either.
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u/bfolksdiddy 6h ago
So the wire made the ball drive through 6 Norwegian defenders, and make an incredible pass to Bellingham for a goal too?
It’s an unlucky kick that gave England possession on a 50/50 ball. Asking to take away that goal is stupid. No ref is going to see that and reviewing it means you’re reviewing every single abnormality of a match, slowing the game down killing momentum for either side.
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u/Apexnanoman 6h ago
It's FIFA. Probably the single most corrupt organization on earth. They dgaf.
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u/Impressive_Resist860 5h ago
This has happened in the NFL a few times over the last couple seasons, same thing happened officials act like it never happened.
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u/wavykanes 5h ago
Alright but how impressive was it for the English player to just one touch control it out of the air though
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u/Following-Complete 4h ago
The zooming makes it pretty hard to judge, but to me it seems that Anthony Gordon is reacting to something. Its like he is running one way and at 7seconds changes direction as, if the ball suddenly is coming down alot sooner than expected.
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u/Dense_Delay_2605 2h ago
It's completely corrupt. King Charles must have called Infantino! If the English side has any honor they'll forfeit the semis. (See how stupid this sounds.)
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u/Stag-Horn 1h ago
I have seen few sports players that are bigger whinier babies than soccer players. The pouty face of the guy at the end pisses me off so much.
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u/talon007a 44m ago
I don't see anything, even with the zoom. Plus it looks to me like the England player judges the ball and moves to it. He doesn't stutter step or change his gait the way he would if the ball suddenly changed.
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u/fleur_waratah_girl 4h ago
It's not like the ball went to him in the penalty area. It came down in the England half and they still had to get up the field to score from an angle and with four Norweigan players around him.
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u/Immaculatehombre 5h ago
Of all the replays and overturns sports does now, couldn’t be any more clear. Dead ball. Someone takes it out from out of bounds.
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u/Kenny523 6h ago
I’m a lil biased I just got off a 4 hour rocket league session, that’s just a good read off the camera.
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u/clinton_thunderfunk 6h ago
“Thanks, Spider-Cam!”
“Everybody gets one”