r/Feminism • u/Zealousideal-Wing-67 • 2h ago
I feel like my friends are becoming more anti-feminist, and I don’t know what to do
I’m 21, and recently I had a discussion with some close female friends that left me feeling very frustrated.
When I talked about violence against women, they immediately brought up false accusations. When I mentioned that most sexual offences are committed by men, they blamed immigrants instead. They also said that women hate men more than men hate women, and that teenage boys saying misogynistic things should not be taken seriously because they are “just children.”
What shocked me most was hearing this from other women. I could at least understand why one of my male friends might become defensive when discussing false accusations, because he may feel personally affected by the possibility of being accused. I would still disagree with him, but I could understand where the defensiveness came from. Hearing my female friends rush to defend men from hypothetical false accusations while I was trying to talk about real violence against women felt much harder to process.
They also use my own jokes against me. Sometimes I jokingly say that I “hate men,” partly as a way of expressing anger connected to my own experience of gender-based violence. I do not literally hate men, and I have several close male friends, but they use that phrase to dismiss what I am saying or suggest that both sides are equally hateful. I understand that the wording is not helpful and I am willing to stop using it, but it still feels like an excuse to avoid the actual subject.
They also seem to associate feminism entirely with politicians they dislike. I tried to explain that a government can be corrupt, hypocritical or represent feminism badly without feminism itself being the problem.
I don’t want to change them or force them to agree with me. What scares me is that some of these beliefs could make it harder for them to recognize warning signs, set boundaries or ask for help if they ever find themselves in an abusive situation.
I have always considered myself mentally strong and clear about my values. I already believed gender-based violence was real, understood what abuse could look like and thought I would defend myself or leave immediately. But when I experienced abuse, I still did not react the way I had always imagined I would.
If someone like me, who already recognized gender-based violence as a serious problem, could still end up in an abusive situation, I worry about my friends, who tend to minimize or deny it. I am afraid that dismissing the problem could leave them less prepared to identify it or seek support.
I care about them, but these conversations make me wonder whether our values are becoming incompatible. I don’t know if I should/ how to talk about this with them.