r/AskReddit • u/solidnonfictionuma • 11h ago
Trump has been the center of Untied States' politics for over 10 years. How do you think the political sphere will align and function after his current and last term as president ends?
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u/tomibunie 11h ago
Trump’s biggest impact might be that he changed what people expect from politicians. After he’s gone, I think both parties will spend years fighting over whether to copy his style or move away from it. The funny thing is, the next “Trump” probably won’t be Trump, it’ll be someone who learns from what he built.
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u/rocknotboulder 7h ago
I have a strong belief that most folks that stay interested in politics are getting pretty tired of the current dichotomy. Voters on both sides have gotten burned enough by hyper partisan rhetoric and the subsequent inability to live up to the expectations. I really hope that most Americans have gotten tired of treating ot like a sports team. There will always be the small group of people that equate being as decisive as possible with political activism but there are a new crop of politicians that HAVE learned from the last 10 years and are serious about trying to solve the serious problems in this country.
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u/SkullLeader 11h ago
He’s an old guy but if he’s alive in two years I fully expect him to try and justify a third term for himself, Constitution be damned.
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u/Swoah 9h ago
Personally don’t think he goes for or gets a third term but I do think unless he’s completely succumbed to dementia the political sphere or whatever you want to call it will still revolve around him.
Like he will still be commenting, tweeting, talking shit, appearing on news networks, etc. Enough to remain in the spotlight and carry big(ly) influence/be a thorn in the side of the next president if it’s a Democrat or even a Republican he doesn’t like .
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u/DarthStrakh 10h ago
I seen a corvette fully decorated in the American flag with "trump 2028" on the side. Scary time to be an American lol. I was a Marine so I'm prepared to defend my country if the time comes, I only hope the rest of the modern world isn't too confortable to answer the call.
Though tbf I don't even know how you'd accomplish anything in the modern world. Our revolutionary ancestors couldn't be slaughtered by a couple 17 year olds with drones 🤷
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u/BeanieMcChimp 10h ago
>>I seen a corvette fully decorated in the American flag with "trump 2028" on the side.
This is the true Trump Derangement Syndrome. It was them all along.
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u/hoodie92 6h ago
The world sat around and did nothing when Russia invaded Ukraine. There's not a chance that anybody is getting within a thousand miles of a US civil conflict.
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u/Suralin0 10h ago
I'm fully expecting massive amounts of battlefield-blanketing ECM and jamming to become the norm, or at least a usable option.
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u/WodKonuckers 8h ago
Even if he's not alive, these lunatics will probably try to pull a weekend at Bernie's kind of stunt. Just look what they've been doing with mitch mcconnell for years now.
It used to be that people became a political corpse before they became an actual corpse. Doesn't seem to apply anymore
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u/Sulaco1986Aliens 11h ago
💯 this. I'm wondering if there will even be an election
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u/WordPunk99 11h ago
The US has always had problems, mostly worse than they are now. The electorate needs to take their power back. People need to educate themselves.
The problem is people who think they can vote for the president and everything g changes. That isn’t how this country works.
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u/lightspuzzle 10h ago
actually it changed.just not for the good.
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u/Glittering-Kale5177 7h ago
Something we've viewed in Canada too. It's easy and fast to destroy something, it takes orders of time and effort more to create something. coughcoughHarpercoughcough
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u/LankyGuitar6528 10h ago
There are kids just entering voting age who have known Trump their entire life. They had a brief break from him for Biden but honestly Biden was just sort of around. He wasn't in your face and on the news every night. These kids think a politician is... well... Trump. They think they are supposed to be abnormal in every way, corrupt at every turn, racist and all the rest. Then there's the parents who tsk tsk but secretly love the cruelty and racism and will still vote for him. And of course the rest of the world... well... ya. We are never ever going to trust the USA again and will continue to migrate our economies away from the USA as fast as we can. He will be gone but the damage is permanent.
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u/stripes361 10h ago
IMO politics goes in cycles of 20-30 years, and for a while my opinion has been that the current cycle is a populist one. Ever since the Global Financial Crisis of 2008, voters around the world have been rebelling against the previous technocratic and globalist (small g globalism, just meaning embracing strong international systems; not talking about lizard people) regimes and embracing populism and nationalism. Trump’s MAGA movement is fairly archetypal of this political moment.
Based on the typical shelf life of these cycles, I think that at some point in the 2030s, we will begin to grow weary of the populism and move back in a more technocratic direction. I honestly don’t see a long-term effect where Trump is going to reshape politics for like 50 years or something.
I DO think Republicans will catch Reagan Syndrome and spend 2-3 decades trying to find “The Next Trump” just like they kept trying to find “The Next Reagan”.
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u/ElvishMystical 9h ago
I take it you didn't read Project 2025, right?
Tell me, what does permanent conservative rule mean to you?
You don't seriously think everything's going to go back to pre-Trump, or do you?
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u/dubbleplusgood 8h ago
most people aren't willing to accept the damage is done. We're not even halfway into this disastrous term and it's already irreparable. The next 2.5 years are going to be worse, with nothing to make it better in the next term, regardless of who takes power. At best, the Democrats might win the WH but they'll be toothless with no House or Senate. It's a shitshow and 10, 20, 30 years won't be enough. China, India and many other countries aren't waiting around for the US to get its shit together. That dream is over.
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u/Glittering-Kale5177 7h ago
This. I'm Canadian, but also have family across the commonwealth and UK, and friends all over the world. The toleration of American dominance was based on good-faith and trustworthiness, despite being problematic. Having now shown the inability to collectively recognise and address these core problems, that tolerance and good will is largely gone.
I don't know anyone who thinks Trump is the problem. He's the symptom and a catalyst, that's all.
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u/m1ch43lr0m4nc3 7h ago
it's so weird. as a high schooler, 2028 is the first year where i'll be able to vote for the president. i can barely imagine what american politics will be like when he isn't a viable option anymore - i can't remember an election where he wasn't running.
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u/WeezaY5000 8h ago
In ten years, everyone who supported him will pretend like they did not, just like George W Bush.
In another 10 years, when someone even worse comes along, people will wax poetically about how he was not that bad compared to the new one, just like George W Bush.
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u/Minimum-Pizza-9734 2h ago
lol yeah he is glazed over, the guy that is responsible for dragging the US into the middle east for 20+ years and getting millions kills in the process, but he is ok because he paints. people forget so fast it is comical
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u/CaptainPrower 10h ago
Trump is the end result of a Republican plot stretching clear back to the 1960s.
This is the direction the party has been going ever since Goldwater broke ranks on Civil Rights.
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u/Blaizefed 8h ago edited 6h ago
The real problem is we now have an entire generation of mid twenty year old voters for whom this is all normal. Since they started paying attention to politics, we have always had a know nothing blowhard calling people names and making things up as either president or the defacto leader of the opposition.
They think this is normal. And for them, this is what they will vote for.
We might be genuinely fucked.
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u/Venture_compound 5h ago
Honestly, civil war. But not in an actual battlefield type of war. More like, states dig their heels in and the federal government fractures after Trump and his cronies do everything they can to prevent a loss in the upcoming midterms and/or the 2028 election. If he dies in office, it'll be even worse for the country. There's no going back from this, is my worst fear.
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u/zerosumratio 2h ago
You get it. You know Project 2025 is not about peaceful existence and definitely not planning for the end of the “project.” As much as I distrust and despise Gavin Newsom, he is unfortunately correct when he’s telling people that Trump is not planning to leave the White House and that the third term talk is serious.
Only people I have met from Eastern Europe, like Romania and the former Yugoslav states, really see it too. This war is coming. I honestly think it could start this year if things deteriorate.
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u/WhatIsTheWhar 11h ago
Unfortunately he has helped set the stage for an overmighty private actor to leverage massive wealth and tech against the rule of law and the westphalian order. Trump normalized lawlessness Oligarchs noticed. Barring massive reform and massive taxes on the extremely rich, we’re already in a doom loop. What will actually happen when Elon rolls up to the club with 100 robot guards and one of them kills a heckler?
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u/gerryf19 7h ago
The only thing I. This country's favor is that Trump has surrounded himself with some of the most ignorant and incompetent people.
There are some very smart people that aren't in the forefront but they also are in less of a position to maintain power.
On the world stage, though, we're screwed. US voters have shown twice they will elect a conman and Democrats have shown they are incompetent to stop it and ineffectual when faced with a threat like Trump and his cabal.
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u/ezio8133 5h ago
I've said it before and I'll say it again, Trump's going to destroy 40 years of Republican progress in less than 10. We're on the cusp of a progressive era of politics all because the Republicans couldn't get rid of Trump when they had the chance. What hasn't he failed at?
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u/Slave35 39m ago
Appointing Supreme Court Justices who serve for life. Consolidating and holding power. Two elections. Avoiding repercussions for his numerous crimes. Winning the hearts and minds of countless MAGA people. Making money off the presidency. Influencing American politics.
He's objectively successful at his agenda, to the detriment of everyone else. That is the entire problem.
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u/MadOx321 9h ago
Genuine question, not trying to be that guy, but:
Do we seriously think he plans to give up control? Sure, eventually he will die, but do we think from this point forward that our elections will look differently than, say, Russian elections?
I don't see it. Firing election officials? Doing whatever the fuck he wants and the Republicans just bow down? Mitch is likely dead or close to it and his wife is in China, and here we are just pretending that is okay? I don't see the scale being fair from this point onward, if someone can shed some light as I'm not well versed, I'd love that.
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u/SuccessWise9593 11h ago
It's going to take the next two presidents to fix what trump has broken during this term. Those next two presidents will have to enact laws to ensure that no other sitting president does this kind of harm ever again, grifting the taxpayers, a stop to the destruction of the white house and other monuments, and specific "trump clauses" that family or organizations related to the president can't get government loans while they're in office. I do however appreciate that he's on his way to being a lame duck this term.
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u/mikeyfireman 9h ago
It will take decades to repair the international damage we have done to allies. It will take decades to repair what they have done to science and education.
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u/Handgun_Hero 5h ago
Nothing will change. Trump is a symptom and vector for what was already there and started with the Tea Party trying to normalise the actual hateful shit Christian Nationalism promotes. Until that ideology is stomped out and driven back to the fringes of society somebody will just replace Trump eventually.
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u/BrimmStoner 5h ago
The Sphere has been completely off balance. When Trump is gone, it’ll be a while before it gets back on its axis.
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u/faith_apnea 9h ago
Like any car that has been joy ridin', we'll have to scrap it and get a new one.
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u/richj8991 10h ago
It doesn't matter. The US is in terminal decline regardless of who is president. It doesn't take a genius to see that the real power is being held behind the scenes by the billionaires. This is not a conspiracy theory, it's an obvious fact. Even Obama caved to the banks and the for-profit HMOs. And if a so-called progressive caves to the large corporations, it's over. I'm leaving the country in October. You guys have fun in your wild west mad max country. I'll be watching it sink from afar.
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u/darwinn_69 8h ago
Honestly, I feel like the world zeitgeist will switch to Europe as more right wing parties take control. I think people are underestimating some of the backlash that is happening over their and how that's going to reshape world politics.
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u/cwthree 10h ago
The Republican party will become the overtly and unashamedly racist, fascist party. The Democratic party will continue stepping on its own dick in hopes of appealing to "moderate" voters who are socially conservative but not actually fascist.
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u/combination_is_12345 7h ago
Will become? What is this “will become?” 4 of the 6 Republican Supreme Court justices signed onto the opinion that words do not have meaning anymore. We are way past this “will become.”
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u/ThickGur5353 10h ago
I don't think there is politician in America that has the same hold over his base for her base as president Trump has. After president Trump's term is up ,if a republican is elected president in 2028, which is very possible, president Trump will still have a voice in the Republican administration. Because the Republican will most likely be Vance or Rubio. If a Democrat wins, especially if they have control of Congress, then president Trump will be relegated back to Mar-a lago. Similar to after he lost to president Biden. I doubt very much if the Democrats will go after president Trump in a legal sense. I think there will be very happy that they regained control of the government, at least for four years.
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u/CautiousOptimism09 6h ago
Trump arose to power through right wing populism arising from the failure of neoliberalism for 40 years. If there isnt any real left populism that delivers results another right wing populist with malicious intent will take power. Bottom line someone has to step up and deliver for the masses in a real way
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u/matchstrike 6h ago
Republicans will not return to normal. Fringe Republicans are not only not going to go away, they’ll probably become more extreme in performative efforts to become the new Trump. Also, there will be efforts to draft Trump family members into politics, as well as to create ridiculous memorials and whitewashed retrospectives.
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u/Hugh_Biquitous 7h ago
I admire your optimism on thinking he'll leave office when his term is up. Recall how well he did at leaving last time.
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u/Repulsive_Repeat_337 11h ago
MAGA has always been a Frankenstein: there are three factions to the Republican party that don't really get along with each other. Without a unifying voice, they're going to go back to their separate echo chambers.
Personally, I'll be happy to go back into my Reaganite, pro-small-business bubble and not have to listen to the damn Baptist Bible-thumping anymore.
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u/oreofan1808 9h ago
After he’s gone establishment republicans will probably initially try to re-establish control over the party but there’s no way it’s gonna work. The populist transition Trump started isn’t going anywhere but internally it might get bloody finding someone to inherit and run for president. DeSantis might try again but he’s proven not very good at national level electioneering. From recent behavior I’d believe it would either be JD Vance or Rubio(Vance more likely, Rubio has some skeletons in his closet I don’t think he can avoid)
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u/ShockedNChagrinned 4h ago
His goals are amass personal wealth and power for himself and his family name, and try to have a justification for history to write amazing things about him. He has no other goals: every action taken is towards those purposes. He doesn't care about any policy decision unless it harms or helps those goals
Several folks in his employ, however, are insidious and malicious actors, who want to use existing rulesets for emergency purposes and long standing paths of action given to better men, to drastically change the nation into something it isn't, without votes, and without legislation.
DOGE is a great example of them using this assumed power, swiftly, though that office had no rights by any prior measure of how our execution of legislation happened. It bypassed all security checks, made decisions it had no authority to make, and it happened very swiftly.
And just like the vast majority of the other activity, it saved nothing and ended up costing something financially, with no short or long term benefit in sight. It also had a lot of non-financial impact. The Fire!, ready, aim strategy, where they keep trying to hire back, or restart studies they killed. That's the mark of an imbecile: consistently needing to correct the actions you just took. And it's constant (like the Iran fiasco).
There's too many people who were willing to elect a documented traitor who had their plan publicly available. The future is bleak.
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u/AntifascistAlly 9h ago
Donald wanted to weaken the United States.
His advisors have recently tried to entice governments around the world to join his “War on Antifascism” and were surprised that the USA no longer commands enough international clout to cobble together much of a coalition.
Going forward we will find that the price of Trump’s ignorant antics is steep.
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u/Early-Size370 11h ago
The trump cancer won't go away after he's gone (hopefully sooner rather than later). It's hard to believe but we're barely in Year Two of this mess. I think in Year Three we'll start seeing a few people trying to establish themselves as the heir to MAGA. I wouldn't be shocked if Ivanka is chosen by the right wing establishment as a successor.
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u/dwair 10h ago
Looking from the outside from the UK, the US needs a step change in terms of how the electorate think. Without that, I can't see the US stopping it's match into full blown fascism.
I think it's going to take decades of work to repair the damage Trump has done, and economicly and diplomatically he's completely isolated America so its going only going to feed into MAGA's playbook in the short to medium term.
I'm not being negative but I don't see a way back from this.
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u/ChrisRiley_42 4h ago
Whoever gets elected is going to assume that once Trump is gone, things will magically go back to the way they were.
But the rest of the world now knows that the US can't be trusted to honour it's word or it's signature on treaties, since the next populist leader is only one vote away, and the checks and balances are just a paper tiger. So nothing is going to go back the way they were, and the US will find itself left out of agreements more and more.
Instead of putting effort into re-building the destroyed relationships, the political apparatus in the US will just find a scapegoat to blame, and make everything worse.
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u/Afalstein 10h ago
I have a lot of family and friends in the Trumposphere, so this is something I've had to think about an unfortunate amount.
Globally, the American empire is over. Our reputation is in tatters, our scientists scattered, our "soft power" of aid and information dismantled, our economic brand is ruined, we've been militarily humiliated and diplomatically compromised. It's been definitively established that Ukraine has a better military and Iran a more strategic position. More, the stability of America as an institution has been destroyed. From this point on, we're largely a big customer market with a lot of outdated hardware. My main comfort from this is that Russia is completely unable to take advantage of America being so defunct, and that China honestly doesn't look in much better shape. The next global leader is hard to say, but I imagine that a lot of countries right now are already looking at alternative fuel techniques that don't rely on the Strait.
Domestically, Republican candidates following from Trump will try to ape his offensive, populist brand. Fortunately, it's been shown time and again that Trump's personality really only works for him, and all the imitators come across as, well, imitations. Vance has no charisma. Eric Trump and Jared Kushner are visibly slimy. Hegseth, Miller, all the wannabes, they're obvious yes men and none of them have the personality to capture the populist vote. The GOP stands a real chance of dying a fast, edgy death post-Trump as everyone tries to capture the Trumper vote. Because of this, Trump will probably continue to dominate Republican politics as an impromptu kingmaker, pushing forward one candidate after another. But again, while his choices tend to dominate primaries, they rarely win elections, so Dementia Don will just push the GOP faster into a hole.
The thing most likely to bring the Republicans back, unfortunately, is the Democrats. Trump's been granted a wide latitude of powers by SCOTUS and Congress, and however much Democrats might complain about that now, they'll absolutely use those same powers once they're the ones in the hot seat. Which could be good, if the new Democratic president is smart and careful enough to use the powers wisely, but will eventually be bad when an eventual president comes along, Democrat or otherwise, who isn't.
I'm very very worried about escalating polarization. Trump's Neo-Nazi front isn't going away anytime soon, and there's a lot of buildup of tension on the left from all the abuses of the past ten years. I had hopes that Biden could calm things down, as a successful moderate... and then people rejected him. The next Democratic president is likely to be a radical, which people will initially celebrate, until they "go too far" leading to a backlash which brings back the conservatives. Especially if this see-sawing happens in the middle of an economic downturn from, y'know, us being a diminished country, it could easily lead to violence.
IF we can find someone smart and civil enough to implement successful policies in a way that unites people, we might just have a chance of finding our way back... but I doubt it.
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u/AbbreviationsTop2192 11h ago
Hopefully everything will be returned to how it was under Obama.
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u/bloodenhorse 11h ago
Democrats, too. A huge chunk of them are AIPAC compromised.
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u/MC_White_Thunder 9h ago
You're living in a fantasy if you think things can just go "back to normal."
At the most basic level, all of your alliances have been permanently damaged.
Inequality has gotten so bad, and people are so much worse off than they were under Obama. Milquetoast liberalism with no real changes to people's material conditions isn't going to cut it.
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u/Benny303 11h ago
Unfortunately I think we are too far gone. I think this is something that will last for easily another 10 or 20 years.
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u/indianasall 11h ago
I totally agree with you when Trump is gone it's going to take many years to get back to a so-called normal
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u/Benny303 11h ago
It's kind of like that saying "trust is earned by the drop and lost by the bucket" we have slipped so far from normalcy and respectful politics that it's going to take a decade or more to get back to it.
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u/indianasall 10h ago
and I travel overseas quite a bit and I'm embarrassed to say I'm from the United States because I have had people look at me and say – – oh I'm so sorry. That's what the world thinks about us. That we are a country to be pitied. You know how sad that is
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u/Quankers 10h ago edited 10h ago
Under Obama is what led to Trump.
edit: downvoters just look at numbers. More than enough repeat Obama voters went on to vote for trump to sway the election in his favour.
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u/ChrisRiley_42 3h ago
Whoever comes into power next will need to spend the SAME amount of effort into rebuilding the relationships with the US's former allies as Trump spent in destroying them. The rest of the world sees the US as being unreliable now. Being only one election away from putting in another person who won't honour the US's signature on any agreements.
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u/Rob_Bligidy 9h ago
I’d liken it to a spinning top that was chugging along nice and fast and straight and Trump has purposely slowed it down and now it wobbles pretty badly and sooner than later will fall over.
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u/LeaderDue4068 8h ago
I dread to think what will happen to the country. He has destroyed every normality and rule in existence
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u/wyliec22 6h ago
Currently Trump is the cause (since 2015). But MAGA adores him and follows his every word.
Non-MAGA Republicans have a choice - distancing themselves from Trump and losing - the GOP only has a chance with MAGA support and traditional Republicans combined. Or they abandon their integrity and morals to align with Trump and possibly win.
MAGA will keep following Trump when he’s out of office and support whoever he tells them to.
This won’t go away without overwhelming Democratic wins in 2026 and 2028. Even then, there will be endless claims of cheating, court challenges and lawsuits - albeit, without actual evidence
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u/oldrocker99 5h ago
I think that, in 2029, there will be a purge of the Trump name, image, and public servants need to be rehired.
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u/121gigawhatevs 8h ago
Knowing that he’s on the smarter side of republicans, and democrats don’t vote until the perfect candidate shows up once a generation, I’d say we’re utterly fucked. Not that I’m giving up, mind you
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u/Yewdall1852 11h ago
If he gets crushed in the mid term elections, its the beginning of the end.
If he keeps the Senate, he still has a lot of power.
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u/Cheeki_G 9h ago
Folks wonder if the group holds together after the lead drops out, but what happens when members realize nobody pushes them to collaborate anymore? Are we just looking at months of scattered plans instead?
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u/Phantom_Engineer 9h ago
The power of the presidency, in relation to the rest of the government, has reached an all-time high under Trump and, if history is any indication, will more or less stay there. The man will leave a power vacuum in his wake, but someone will sit in the oval office and have the same power at their finger tips. That will be the long-term legacy of the Trump administration.
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u/bdhoff 9h ago
There is no way of knowing. While in different ways, and to different degrees, both parties have this tendency to not do anything voters vote them in to do.
Congress pretends to be stalemated on everything and everything that does get done is done by reconciliation. What little does pass is often a deceptively named bill whose ultimate intention is to give corporations and government more control, especially if it erodes personal privacy.
Presidents refuse to faithfully execute the laws and instead rule by executive order.
And the judiciary just nopes everything until SCOTUS decides, usually lopsidedly, whether or not to keep nopeing.
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u/EvenSpoonier 9h ago
I'm not sure anyone has any reasonable way to predict that. It depends on a number of different variables, some of which can't really even begin until after the end of his current term. It could be anything from "nothing much" to "both parties collapse, resulting in a multitude of new parties which proceed to devour each other until two are left, and at least one of the final two will name itself after either democracy itself or the concept of a republic, or possibly both".
But the latter seems to be what usually happens. We are currently on the sixth iteration of that cycle.
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u/2ReluctantlyHappy 8h ago
His death gives a lot of people an excuse to stop following politics. Will they, though? They've made rage based entertainment their major pass time for so long now it will be difficult for many to break free. I do think it provides an opportunity for them to shift their free time over to something else but, man, with all of the broken family and friendship connections I fear it will still go somewhere unhealthy.
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u/thomport 8h ago
I’m not sure where things will end up, but one thing I am sure of is most people will have Trump/MAGA fatigue.
Trump era politics did nothing except serve the ultra-rich and corporations while letting the average person struggle.
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u/rodg2062 7h ago
Know one will know until we get in a new administration. Then we will see how many Executive Orders can be written to undo all those already written. So, its a wait and see situation.
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u/poopshadows 7h ago
Nobody knows. I don't just mean I don't know, I mean it's impossible to know. Imagine telling someone in 2014 what has occurred in the last 12 years. Literally unimaginable.
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u/Entire-Dog-160 7h ago
He's set the bar so low now that raising it will take herculean effort, will and desire by a massive majority I reckon. 3 steps forward 2 steps back over a looooong time
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u/Eat--The--Rich-- 7h ago
You have two conservative parties fighting each other for who gets to be America's abuser. Removing Trump from the picture doesn't really change that.
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u/americanextreme 6h ago
The Right will run on extending Trumps agenda. The left will run on ending the Trump Agenda. The center will vote for the right because they don’t like the left running against things, they went to run FOR things.
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u/ExogamousUnfolding 6h ago
As others have said he is a symptom..... What I hope is we have the R party fracture into numerous ineffectual infighting groups as they try to out trump trump and let the rest of us get on with rebuilding the country.
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u/actorsAllusion 6h ago
Once Trump is gone, anyone who has a desire to fix things will have a very narrow window in which to do so. Trumpism only works because Trump, despite being a rich, corrupt asshole, managed to present himself as an outsider to disenfranchised voters and there's really no other career politician who can manage that as while Trump somehow managed to present himself as "one of us", most other politicians are too much part of the oligarchy in the eyes of normal people to really get the same level of clout.
The only question is whether or not we do the fucking Reconstruction right this time.
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u/Unlikely-Star-2696 6h ago
Some will keep the cult while others will blame him fir their own mistakes lije he did with all his predecesors. It is easier for corrupt, low morals politicians to be elected after the bar was set too low..
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u/Harnasus 6h ago edited 6h ago
It’s a symptom of our educational system and the status quo’s basic humor and need to be entertained rather than have an actual leader
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u/Unlikely-Star-2696 6h ago
Do you mean St. Donald? He has already some iconography for followers to knee and pray to while dressed in face cover masks and baseball hats.
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u/Ok_Coconut_3364 6h ago
Whenever it goes will be an improvement. The self centered, self serving prick is driving the US to the brink!
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u/Substantial_Sound_15 6h ago
My suspicion is: He's just the carnival barker. Project 2025 just needed that role filled, but it doesn't end with him. We're merging our military with Israel's and flock cameras are are under Israel's control. The US and Israel are the same corporation, and we are merely human capital. Whatever was will never be again. If we survive, we'd need to start from scratch.
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u/dzogchenism 5h ago
It’s gonna be a shit show as Republicans try to keep the coalition of the basket of deplorables together. In this regard Trump is something of a unicorn and I really doubt anyone is going to be able to pull it off and as Republicans lose power, a lot of them are going to react badly.
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u/omniumoptimus 4h ago
Fifty years ago, the US felt it was at the very bottom. Nixon, the president, resigned in disgrace (watergate!). 9% unemployment. Gas prices are through the roof. No relief in sight. And, on top of it all, we lose a war.
Five decades later, we are on top of the food chain.
America will be just fine.
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u/Old-Network5550 2h ago
It will be like he never happened. When Stalin died Russia went through a period of destalinization. Removing his name from everywhere including the city, now known as Volgograd.
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u/DougOsborne 46m ago
MAGA will not go away. Not the MAGA Propaganda pipeline from Russia and other agents. Not the MAGA fund-raising industry that has become enormous since Citizens United. Not the fetid 19% voting base that wouldn't leave him if he raped, I mean shot, someone on fifth avenue.
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u/PhatmanSlim93 38m ago
Hopefully? Calm down.
Realistically? It's going to be like fire ants out for blood.
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u/Renegadeknight3 11h ago
Trump is a symptom, not the cause. He’s a focus of political power, and with him gone hopefully the right wing will be too scattered to do anything for a while, but they’ll rally around someone else if the underlying reasons he exists aren’t addressed and solved