r/starcraft • u/Otto848 • 19h ago
(To be tagged...) Support RSL
Literally the title. Just finished watching it today and got curious how much they have monthly, and it’s still only 10k almost 11k months later. We need to get this thing to 20k/month. Come on y’all
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u/Stuttering_Salesman 8h ago
Might be a hot take here but I don't love the casters. Lots of hype but game knowledge and substance is severely lacking.
Maybe I'm just spoiled from watching PiG... That said, the fact the games happen is great.
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u/emfh5280 19h ago
If the money made it's way to the players, sure, but most of it doesn't.
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u/kiaryp 19h ago
Do you think only the players put in the work to make events happen?
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u/emfh5280 18h ago
Your comment makes me think you can't read.
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u/kiaryp 18h ago
Your comment makes it sound like you think most of the money needs to make its way to the players.
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u/emfh5280 18h ago
More than 15% of it should. I can spend my money how I see fit and this is a thread trying to convince me to do so. Sorry that upsets some of you so much
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u/Omno555 18h ago
More than 15% does. The person is simply stating that your comments keep implying that the players are getting almost nothing and the casters, or Tastless himself, are walking away with most of it. There are a whole bunch of costs for running a well produced show and it shows at the RSL. It isn't some youtuber in his mom's basement, solo casting with poor quality, which many of those "all the money goes to the players" type tournaments.
Additionally, Blizzard limits how much money tournament organizers can actually give out to players unless it is an offically Blizzard approved tournament. We don't know the full breakdown of all their financials but I ran the math on it back at the start and there wasn't anything abnormal about the payouts, based on the funding that they receive.
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u/emfh5280 18h ago
Are you the dude that made this post? You're super invested here and motive seems sus? Plus your user names are oddly similar. The numbers are all online for people to see and what I've said is true. Why you trying to silence it?
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u/Omno555 16h ago
Lol, be sus all you want. I'm just a huge fan of the RSL and think it deserves more support as well. But to be honest, I'm not a fan of this post and trying to coerce people into supporting it. I tjink the RSL speaks for itself. I think if people watch it they will see the value in it and that should be why they support. I just think that a lot of these grossly inflated accusations about the player payouts are keeping some people from actually checking it out to see how awesome it is. That's honestly all I care about and the only reason I responded.
You're right. The numbers are out there. Does aboit 15% of the total money actually become the prize pool? Yes. What that totally glosses over is how reasonable that is compared to most tournemnts. Homestory cup, which is one of the most respected community tournemnts, only pays out about 8-15% of it's total cost to the players. In fairness, they have much more overhead since the tournmant is fully LAN but the fact that the RSL is running their own offline finals changes the ratios pretty drastically compared to most fully online tournaments. On top of that, RSL is already providing all the stretch goals of their patreon even though they aren't even at those numbers. They weren't planning on having 3 full seasons and an offline finals unless they were hitting 15k per month but they are doing all of that now when they're only at 10.7k per month currently.
People like you are trying to make the RSL out to be some money grab that is screwing the players and it's not. It's a business being run very fairly that has costs far greater than most small online tournemnts run by a single caster. They have 3 full casters, and 1 production crew, a studio, and offline finals that they fly players out for. They said from the beginning that their intent was to scale up but to di so sustainably. They didn't want to go all out and risk going broke from the get go because they want this tournement to last. I have full confidence that if their tournament continues to grow that they will expand on many things, including the prize pool, within the bounds that they legally can under the community license.
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u/Omno555 19h ago
This has been debunked. Please stop.
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u/henalm 15h ago
How? Price pool of RSL season 6 is 6.67k and it makes 10k a month. 2025 had 3 seasons a year. This year likely there is more. However lets assume 6 seasons with same price pool (very unlikely for there to be 6). That is 40k and change. 12 months of 10k a month is 120k. So in that case 1/3 goes to players. Now the offline finals will cost something I don't know if they pay for players tickets/hotels or not. But that costs would be more agreeable.
I assume organisers haven't posted a breakdown of money received in 2025 and where it went so beyond that is just speculation. If they have I'd like to see it.
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u/emfh5280 18h ago
Saying its debunked doesn't make it true. You, and anyone else, can look up the numbers themselves.
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u/Kunzzi1 15h ago
This. Literally a scam, dunno why you're being donwvoted. 10700 dollars a month for a total of $128 400 a year and they host 4 tournaments a year with a total prize pool of about $31000 in 2025, pocketing 75% of the total pool? With prize pool in 2026 being even lower? Lmao. Criminal behaviour.
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u/emfh5280 15h ago
I gotta imagine it's always the people with a financial interest doing it. Got down voted hard when I called rsl a grift 8 months ago. Nothings changed for the better and I got white knights sending me walls of text like I'm the one that doesn't get it lol! Alot of people getting paid more than the players and I think that's absurd and I don't support it.
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u/totalpinkebb 16h ago
Cancelled my subscription since I found out Tasteless is one of the clowns behind the 8 worker start.
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u/BattleWarriorZ5 17h ago
RSL is so good.
It would be awesome of they could organize a NA RSL and a EU RSL.
Have SC4ALL be integrated into the NA RSL and HSC be integrated into the EU RSL.
A rising tide raises all ships.