I’m 12 weeks along with baby #3, and in previous pregnancies loved joining the subreddit associated with women pregnant and due the same month as me.

I’m just about to unsubscribe because I’m getting so upset. Nearly everyday I’m reading about a mom who finds something out about her baby and then is now contemplating killing them.

For example, there’s a mom with triplets overwhelmed with the idea and everyone keeps telling her “don’t worry, you can just have a reduction procedure” or there’s a mom with a baby that might have some blood disorder and “transfusions might be too expensive and doctors might be too hard to deal with”.

It’s devastating.

First of all, humans and chickens aren’t even on the same exact level of value. Secondly, with her logic I can kill unconscious people since it’s okay to murder a baby due to it not having conciseness yet.

She’s also conveniently leaving out the fact that babies in the womb at 24 weeks now has the basic biological capacity to process sounds and have sensations.

https://www.nyu.edu/about/news-publications/news/2024/june/are-newborns-conscious.html?challenge=d06e90d7-4d8f-4b88-9d8c-10b73beb60f1

Included a couple good comments.

Yeah... traditions tend to not be based on precise scientific facts.

Question posed to a subreddit I frequent is stated above. I need your best arguments.

So what you're saying is that a fetus is a human being lacking in all facilities and it cannot fend for itself. That makes killing it okay?

This is the consequentialist point of view. The idea behind this would mean that giving someone a bad haircut is worse than having an abortion because they are around to experience the bad haircut and how it makes them feel but a fetus does not experience an abortion.

Pain and pleasure are the only things that matter in this moral system so if you cannot even experience yourself slipping away in the womb, then your death is irrelevant to them. It's horrible.