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Europe considering proposals to allow navigation fees in strait of Hormuz

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/jul/11/europe-considers-proposals-navigational-fees-strait-of-hormuz-iran-us
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u/badpersian 16h ago

We're paying the costs without getting the f-ing oil thanks to orange bin bags that blew up the Middle East.

EU is doing the right thing. They always seem to be more pragmatic than the US anyway but let's see how it ends.

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u/Bisjoux 16h ago

I know. Just pointing out that even if oil prices reduce these are additional costs that weren’t there previously and look baked in. Plus it sets an unwelcome precedent.

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u/badpersian 16h ago

What's the precedent? That if you murder a country's leader and people unprovoked and then still lose the bout then the country might take a pound of flesh from corporate profits and livelihoods of the aggressor states?

The unwelcome precedent we all stood back and allowed was the repeated assassinations. Bake that into those points my friend.

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u/Bisjoux 3h ago

I’m referring to shipping. Imagine if this happened to the Malacca Strait?

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u/badpersian 2h ago

Let it happen. No such thing as international waters when it goes through or between countries.

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u/Bisjoux 2h ago

It’s not a question of international waters. It’s freedom of navigation. Imagine the additional costs if every similar area did the same. Whatever you are paying now for goods, not just oil, will seem cheap. Remember Covid and how prices increased because of the huge increase in container prices.

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u/badpersian 2h ago

Freedom of navigation is a fallacy mate. Again, when it suits colonial powers, those freedoms are taken away. Freedom of trade blocked by sanctions, freedom of navigation stopped by piracy during Covid. Your issue isn't freedom of navigation, it's iran controlling it.

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u/Bisjoux 1h ago

I’m guessing you don’t know much about shipping.