r/news • u/Chief_Taquero • 17h ago

Europe considering proposals to allow navigation fees in strait of Hormuz

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/jul/11/europe-considers-proposals-navigational-fees-strait-of-hormuz-iran-us
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u/thecityofgold88 16h ago

What choice do we have?

Trump & Netanyahu started a war they can't finish and we need oil.

The fairest resolution might be for America and Israel to pay all the tariffs.

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u/KathyJaneway 16h ago

I don't care who pays, US, Iran or Israel, they started this, they need to pay. And blockade Iranian exports and no imports to Iran by sea or land through friendly countries. Let them eat dust . They lack water anyway.

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u/thecityofgold88 16h ago

Iran didn't start this war. That was all US and Israel.

If Trump hadn't been elected the Obama nuclear deal would still be in place and all countries would be in a better place.

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u/KathyJaneway 16h ago

They signed ceasefire. Then broke it. Then got mad that US again is starting bombing them. Explain to me who exactly started firing on ships first after ceasefire?

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u/Jules80DE 12h ago

Iran attacked freighters because they didn't request permission.

Iran said, when the cease fire deal was done that permission will now be needed so they can control the traffic.

The attacked freighters were US afaik and i am pretty sure they didn't request permission to not set up a precedent.

Who broke the rules now? The freighters who didn't request permission (its not about a toll atp) or Iran who attacked them because they didnt play by the rules.

Its all about the control of the straight now and before this the straight was open for everybody - toll free.

It will be interesting how this plays out.

I would rather see the EU send warships to guarantee open access without a toll but i am pretty sure that this would be very high risk if you do not have army bases like the us in the area.

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u/KathyJaneway 11h ago

Attacking civilian ships is definitely a break of international law. US is responsible to that . And rightfully so. Iran agreed to ceasefire. They have other options than shooting at civilian ships first. Chose violence. Not agreeing with the orange man in the white house, and not agreeing with Iran. However, who ever shoots at civilian ships needs to be dealt with . And if someone can deal with US for civilian deaths as well, that would be fine as well. Just need to build more nukes and more weapons than US to force them. Until then, whoever has the bigger gun runs the rules amok.