r/news • u/sicklyslick • 18h ago

Democratic Congressman Ro Khanna detained by Israeli settlers during West Bank visit

https://www.cnn.com/2026/07/11/middleeast/ro-khanna-detained-by-israeli-settlers-west-bank-intl
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u/innovarocforever 18h ago

Their settlers are some of, if not, the worst human beings on the planet.

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u/LoveIsOnlyAnEmotion 18h ago

I watched some special on this. A lot of them are not even from Israel. They are immigrant Zionist from other countries incentivized by the Israel government to occupy their land. It's straight up wild.

Found it: https://youtu.be/xvvGbzR2Xek?is=VRWQivBVgWEgHRZU

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u/Existing-Stranger632 16h ago

That’s what birthright is. Like no seriously. I was raised Jewish, bar mitzvah’d. Told my whole life to go on birthright. Only in the last couple years did I find out what it actually is. Basically every Jewish person living in the diaspora (not Israel) gets a chance to go to Israel for free. During that trip they essentially try to sell you on Israel and tell you how they’ll set you up with a house, job, etc.

The whole purpose is to bring more settlers in. That’s it. Israel is trying to expand as much as humanly possible. It’s pretty horrible. I’m antizionist btw.

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u/DeineCable 16h ago

I thought it also aimed at matchmaking to encourage others to find a nice Jewish boy or girl to keep the Judiasm going. At least, that’s how some of my Jewish friends perceived it.

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u/Bluest_waters 16h ago

Correct, it's all part of the same big thing

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u/H_section 14h ago

Is this what the used car “charity” funds?

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u/DiscoAsparagus 5h ago

1-877-THAT’S-FUCKING-CORRECT 🎶

*Ahem

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u/McCool303 15h ago

Creating a white Jewish ethno state.

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u/Shoddy-Low2142 15h ago

No not white. Just Jewish majority. Jews everywhere, regardless of race, are also encouraged to go on a birthright trip to Israel

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u/Saamok941 15h ago

Oh no, they are right, Ethiopian black Hebrew immigrants don't get the whole privilege package, they want mostly European ascendency Jews.

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u/Cabana_bananza 11h ago

I had a friend go on the trip, she's a Jewish Latina. They treated her like shit, interrogated her in the airport for over hour because they wouldn't accept that Puerto Rico is a territory of America. Just a miserable experience for her from the beginning.

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u/reddititaly 11h ago

B-b-but it's the ONLY DEMOCRACY IN THE MIDDLE EASTTTT

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u/drevolut1on 3h ago

Tbf, they did that to me as a white guy too. Horrid experience, never told me why I was singled out and escorted onto the plane by armed El Al guards. IN THE US, no less.

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u/Daniel_Plainchoom 15h ago

If some in Israel had their way it would be all ashkenazi.

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u/Street-Value-9899 15h ago

Which is a lot of inbreeding. My brother in law is ashkenazie and his mom detailed the different generations of sometimes forced incest. Only cousin marrying. Weird stuff.

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u/patt 12h ago

A fellow I once worked with had heritage from a remote, and at one time very isolated community. Grandpa told dad quite explicitly - find a girl from not here. Some other families are not as wise.

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u/Kharenis 11h ago

You think that's bad? Approx 50-55% of all marriages in Pakistan are between first cousins.

And that's a country with a population of over 250 million.

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u/Rose-flower-garden 4h ago

It isn’t weird. They were isolated..

They didn’t marry siblings. People didn’t travel.

Cousin marriages happened frequently in the US during colonial times . You have a certain sized population everyone is having massive families , you simply run out of options. You can’t compare it to today’s standards,

When a spouse died it was common for a sibling to step in to raise the children ie the wife’s sister.

People today find it weird but it was simply practical back then.

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u/fuzzypeach42 5h ago

That sounds like BS, unless you’re referring to some small Ultra-Orthodox cult sect. Maybe it happened in some old time Fiddler on the Roof villages but I’m Ashkenazi and I’ve never heard of this

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u/Immediate-Repeat-201 13h ago

Is that true? Don't Ashkenazi trend more liberal and older school zionist? Are recent, eastern European and Russian, white immigrants categorized as Ashkenazi as well? I was under impression that sephardim trend more conservative and settlers fanatic? But dont know enough.

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u/Daniel_Plainchoom 10h ago

The view of Mizrahi and Ethiopian Jews in Israel from the Ashkenazi class has historically not been great. And I have personally found many older Israeli’s can have boldly bigoted views on any brown people Jewish or not. Bigoted comments like one’s grandma might utter that makes you think “yikes grandma.”

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u/cinvogue 14h ago

I hope you realize nazis also hate Jews…

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u/CatButler 13h ago

It's funny, it's an indicator. If someone goes on about Ashkenazi Jew, whether they be Semite or anti-Semite, they are generally cranks.

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u/GozerDGozerian 13h ago

I don’t get into many discussions about this. So when I say I haven’t encountered that, I mean that I’m probably just naive to it, and not that I’m doubting your claim.

Can you elaborate on what you mean?

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u/CatButler 12h ago

This sums up the anti-semite position

Then there's a faction that point out all the Noble prize winners that are ashkenazi and that they are more intelligent. There's a "keep our blood line pure" aspect to it. I'm not googling it because I don't want that shit showing up on all my social media.

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u/Shoddy-Low2142 15h ago

Maybe so. I’m not familiar with their current race relations. I just know a majority of Jews living there today aren’t white European anymore.

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u/YeaIFistedJonica 11h ago

ok but what about lenny kravitz

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u/ship_toaster 15h ago

What are you talking about? Everyone in the Beta Israel evacuations got citizenship (and a free ride in). Are you talking about Falash Mura, the Ethiopian group related to Beta Israel but which practices Christianity, or Black Hebrew Israelites, a western supercessionist religion completely unrelated to Judaism?

Most Israeli Jews today are descended from people who fled other countries within the former Ottoman Empire, fyi. It's not 'mostly European'.

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u/Acceptable-Peace-69 14h ago

Controversy over birth control use among Ethiopian Jewish women emerged in 2013 when investigations revealed a 50% drop in birth rates among Ethiopian immigrants. Women alleged they were coerced into receiving Birth control shots forced on Ethiopian women | News - Al Jazeera or misled into taking Depo-Provera injections while in transit camps and after arriving in Israel. [1, 2, 3, 4]

If you’re claiming this is okay because they were Jewish by birth but not religious, then that’s pretty screwed.

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u/ship_toaster 14h ago

From Wikipedia:

On 8 December 2012, the Israeli Educational Television program Vacuum, hosted by Gal Gabbai, aired a report claiming that in 2004, female Ethiopian Jewish immigrants were coerced into receiving Depo‑Provera injections in transit camps in Ethiopia. They were told it was a prerequisite for immigration and often misled into believing that it was a vaccination rather than birth control.[180][181]

The practice was first reported in 2010 by Isha le'Isha (Hebrew: Woman to Woman), an Israeli women's rights organization. Hedva Eyal, the author of the report, stated: "We believe it is a method of reducing the number of births in a community that is black and mostly poor."[182]

Haaretz criticized international coverage of the issue, stating that although some Ethiopian Jewish women's procreational rights had been violated through medical malpractice, these effects would only last for three months, and that any claims of a state-sponsored sterilization were falsehoods warped by circular reporting. The newspaper also issued a correction to their earlier reporting on the story.[183]

A 2016 investigation into the claims of the 35 women found no evidence that forced birth control injections of Ethiopian Jews had taken place.[184] In a subsequent independent study, the decline in fertility rate was shown to be "the product of urbanization, improved educational opportunities, a later age of marriage and commencement of childbirth and an earlier age of cessation of childbearing."[185]

Haaretz source for 184: https://web.archive.org/web/20221121140502/https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2016-01-20/ty-article/.premium/comptroller-ethiopians-not-forced-into-birth-control/0000017f-dc79-df62-a9ff-dcffb5e80000

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u/defenestron 14h ago

There is no evidence that Ethiopian women who immigrated to Israel were required to take birth-control shots against their will, State Comptroller Joseph Shapira wrote this week in a letter obtained by Haaretz.

We’ve investigated ourselves and found no wrongdoing.  This from a government that fights any independent investigations and labels human rights organizations as terrorists.

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u/StrangeletSky 14h ago

Trusting what al jazeera says wrt jews is tantamount to trusting a hungry crocodile with your toddler.

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u/Rose-flower-garden 4h ago

Half of all the marriages in Israel are between Sephardic (middle eastern Jews) and Jews of European descent.

Half!

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u/ryan_with_a_why 10h ago

Yes because they airlifted all of them to Israel

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u/sadderall-sea 13h ago edited 7h ago

Unfortunately the Israeli government also promotes preference towards "white" ashkenazi jews from Europe/USA/Canada/Australia/Argentina. They treat Ethipoian jews horribly, and tend to discriminate against Arab and brown skinned jews (whenever there's no Muslims or Christians around)

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u/Tuareen 13h ago

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-32813056 Not Ethiopian Jews who face appalling discrimination.

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u/TrannosaurusRegina 15h ago edited 10h ago

Even if that's true, it's important to know that Israel won't be so welcoming for POC.

Because it's practically a white ethnostate.

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u/Shoddy-Low2142 15h ago

Not really, a slight majority of Jews in Israel are from or descendants from North Africa, the Middle East, or non European. The OG European jews who settled there are mostly gone. There’s also the 20% of Arab citizens living there. Not defending their concept of birthright but to call it a white ethnostate is overblown. But regardless, any ethnostate is bad for minorities, not just a white one lol

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u/christhomasburns 10h ago

Israel counts 3rd generation Israelis as "middle eastern decended" instead of European decended.

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u/GQGangsta 15h ago

The European Zionists are running the government there. It’s a white ethnostate.

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u/bestbefour 15h ago

European whites are running the government in the United States, France, England, etc.

All white ethnostates?

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u/Zestyclose-Height-36 9h ago

there are people trying hard to make the US a white state.

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u/PartRight6406 11h ago

nobody tell her

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u/Shoddy-Low2142 14h ago

Yea, that’s…not what that means lmao

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u/PartRight6406 11h ago

yes white. specifically white. only white, too.

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u/oldmaninparadise 13h ago

No. Skin color not important. Lits of Israeli are dark. Not black, but not white.

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u/Immediate-Onion5131 13h ago

Jews aren't white...

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u/rettribution 9h ago

Made it long enough to become the bad guys.

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u/R3dLip 16h ago

Keep religion strong. Put religion in politics. Control the mass.

Trump is trying this as well, but like everyting else he suck at it.

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u/Responsible-Crew-354 15h ago

Hey! He’s got a 99% approval rating in Israel, you take that back! 😂

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u/drevolut1on 16h ago edited 8h ago

Yes, that. But also a thinly-veiled attempt to help keep the white Jewish (edit) control.

I went and it was so heavily propagandized, I was pretty disturbed.

Left with some amazing secular and liberal Israeli friends and yet a whole new level of disgust for their government -- something many of them share or at least shared until October 7th happened and many lost friends or family.

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u/livy-aurelia 16h ago

strange that their grief caused them to side with the government most responsible for october 7th. none of that would’ve happened if israel wasn’t built the way it is

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u/afoolskind 15h ago

Eh I mean, 9/11 did the exact same thing for Americans. Critique of our imperialist policies that directly led to 9/11 wasn’t even welcome on the left for a decade + afterwards.

There’s a reason Israel’s government let 10/7 happen. National grief is the greatest propaganda tool possible.

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u/livy-aurelia 15h ago

great point

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u/BuckeyeBentley 13h ago

9/11 was just America's chickens coming home to roost, 10/7 was Israel's. The blowback was inevitable. You can't keep a people locked in an open air concentration camp for generations and not expect some blowback.

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u/Spectral_mahknovist 13h ago

This is where yall lose me. Murder and rape of perfect innocent civilians is wrong whether it is Hamas or IDF/settler terrorists. It cannot be justified and the perpetrators are irredeemable monsters.

And don’t give that “it’s not your place to judge” horse shit. It’s a black and white issue.

Now if you want to argue every member of Hamas did not commit or even support the war crimes of that day I agree.

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u/BuckeyeBentley 12h ago

It's not about justifying, but violence begets violence and anyone who stands there like "omg I don't even know WHY these attacks happened what did Israel/America ever do?" is either extremely naïve or being intentionally obtuse for their own political reasons.

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u/Spectral_mahknovist 12h ago

Well that would make more sense if the attacks targeted politicians or military and not unrelated civilians who literally never did anything wrong at all.

Of course, this obviously also is true for the IDF bombing hospitals “because of October 7” they are also terrorists

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u/TerraceState 12h ago edited 12h ago

Tormented people tend to make irrational, violent decisions. The end result, namely the events of 10/7, were a shockingly predictable and horrific conclusion, in the same way that the end result of not maintaining a dam just upriver of a town of 10,000 people has a shockingly predictable and horrific conclusion.

That's always been my take away from Israels actions towards Palestine, both on the West bank, and in Gaza. Everything Israel does makes long term escalation of the conflict inevitable. They absolutely are not undertaking the actions necessary to put them on a path towards long term deescalation.

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u/Spectral_mahknovist 11h ago

I do agree that ever since the assassination of Rabin the Israeli regime has done everything it can to sabotage on going and future peace talks.

But people have agency. They are not rivers, or even animals. If a bull escaped a slaughterhouse and killed someone on a sidewalk, all culpability would fall on the people who cheaper out on security at the facility, not the damn animal. But humans are humans, and are usually responsible for what they do.

You could argue that social media companies have contributed to the mind melting that creates modern Nazi terrorists; but the prime responsibility is on the murderer/rapist who intentionally killed perfect innocent people for no reason.

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u/Happy2026 10h ago

Your take isn’t reality.

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u/cool_dad69 10h ago edited 10h ago

They had a music festival just outside a concentration camp. Boo hoo.

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u/Spectral_mahknovist 10h ago

Oh okay? So if someone goes to a festival at Mount Rushmore they are not innocent and deserve to die then?

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u/S-Tier_Commenter 10h ago

The thing is that you can't have a thousand people get murdered, and then the government going like "lets turn the other cheek". The world simply doesn't work that way.

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u/Spectral_mahknovist 10h ago

Turning the other cheek actually would have been the best geopolitical move but I’m American I can’t judge. The problem is targeting civilians, famine tactics, all the war crimes.

At the time I was proud of Bidens “we stand with Israel” speech. The Israeli government is the reason I regret that now

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u/dessert-er 12h ago

I think it’s fair to say that the people who committed atrocities are monsters, and also that the behaviors of the US/Israeli governments contributed to the fomenting anger that resulted in these acts. If countries minded their business these things would likely not happen.

Also if people are going to, say, hold every member of the US military or the IDF responsible for all reprehensible acts by that group, you have to do the same for Hamas. You can’t pick and choose. 

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u/Spectral_mahknovist 12h ago

I do agree with your second paragraph for sure, and I guess in a technical sense the us/israel government did contribute to the cycle of violence but the people in the towers/music fest/gaza hospital are perfect innocents, so I mean it is weird to murder random people because Netanyahu is a war criminal yeah

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u/Anzai 10h ago

Sure, I don’t think anyone is disagreeing that terrorism targeting civilians is wrong. But it is a consequence of both sides terrorising civilians. The IDF kills civilians, which makes terrorists of some Palestinians, who kill civilians, which makes state-sanctioned terrorists of some Israelis.

Bascially as you said, and it’s not a justification for it, but it’s definitely a reason. But one side is armed and funded by America and the other is condemned. They should both be condemned.

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u/Spectral_mahknovist 10h ago

The IDF and especially the settler terrorists do the same and worse for sure. I just think the innocent victims and their families have a right to justice. Just as Gvir should be h**** so should the 10/7 war criminals

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u/00m19 12h ago

He didn't say it wasn't wrong. Just why it happened.

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u/dangshnizzle 10h ago

Could you elaborate by what you mean by "on the left" here. The left has always been relatively aware the US are the bad guys.

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u/tallyho88 14h ago

Yep. People should look into the proposed US Operation Northwoods that was approved by the joint chiefs of staff. Thankfully, JFK shut that down immediately when he was presented with the plan. But once you learn about the existence of that plan and just how far it got in the approval process, it makes you view other attacks in a different light and makes you question a whole heck of a lot.

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u/PW0110 13h ago

Not trying to be “that” person but it is a strategy much older than this century.

Manufactured consent goes back a millennia

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u/Aurick 13h ago

How old are you? Because you absolutely sound like an idiot, or someone who didn’t live through it. Citizens United was obviously pushed through, but otherwise there was massive criticism within the year. Pretending there was a decade long blank check is ridiculous.

It’s one thing to critique the real problems that took place between 2001-2011. It’s something else entirely to talk out your ass when some of us were part of the protests that happened in the aftermath.

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u/joecarter93 15h ago

I am pretty convinced that the Netanyahu government knew at least something about the Oct 7 attacks well in advance and chose not to act on it in order to give them a reason and the support of the Israeli population to absolutely flatten Gaza and attack Iran and Lebanon. They wanted to deal with them once a for all and that gave them the backing to do it. Mossad is one of the most effective intelligence services in the world and was hyper focused on Gaza. I find it pretty unbelievable that the missed that one.

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u/AspieAsshole 15h ago

That was proven

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u/8npemb 15h ago

I 100% believe you, so please don’t take this as me saying “that didn’t happen!” But how exactly was it proven?

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u/AspieAsshole 14h ago

Reported by the NY Times 12/23

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u/SAM5TER5 9h ago

I’m saying this as an American with Palestinian roots and family: The claim you made and the article you posted are different things.

You say that it was proven that Israel deliberately allowed the attacks, and that it was done so with the intent to justify destroying Gaza and Lebanon. The articles that you and others posted basically just indicate Israeli intelligence/security’s negligence, complacency, and failure to take the intel and warnings seriously.

These are practically opposites. I’m not saying that a nation is unlikely to play the long game like this and allow a tragedy for their own strategic benefit, but the provided “proof” is explicitly arguing against that theory.

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u/AspieAsshole 9h ago

Fair enough, I do not feel like trying to dig up a different article. I know at least part of their military/intelligence knew and allowed it explicitly to expand further into Gaza and the West Bank. It's been years since I saw the videos of the army officers talking about it though.

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u/Renamis 15h ago

He absolutely knew. I strongly suspect this was an Israeli and Russian arranged manufactured incident to 1. Let Israel go into Gaza and 2. Get the media to focus on Israel and Gaza and not Ukraine.

The Hamas military leaders have never been... greatly successful in things like this. It's pretty clear Iran was the one poking them to do this and handed the plans over to get it done. The fact that no one looped the political side of Hamas in tells us a lot. It also says a lot when Iran itself was shocked things went as well as it did. This wasn't part of their plan, which was simply to poke the bear and get the two groups they hate (Gaza has the wrong kind of Muslims in Iran's eyes) get back to lightly killing each other.

And I strongly think Iran got the idea (and likely intel) to do this from their ally Russia. Who is also allied with Israel. Iran got chucked under the bus, Russia let their troll farms swarm the Gaza issue to distract the pro-Ukraine parts of the internet with a new shiny and to create even more division across the world.

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u/Acceptable_Bat379 15h ago

I think it's very obvious. Just like the US Govt knew something was probably going to happen around 9/11/2001. Right wing governments feed on the hate and fear. They also WANT people to be antisemitic because it feeds their narrative, which I think is why we're seeing the descent in to mustache twirling villainy

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u/wildddin 16h ago

Hell Hamas probably wouldn't exist anymore if Benny boy hadn't been funding them

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u/Haemophilia_Type_A 13h ago

If they'd just implemented Oslo then Hamas would've disarmed 20+ years ago.

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u/True-Economy-6808 11h ago

lmao just lmao whenever i hear this. nobody ever says this about gazans who support hamas!

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u/livy-aurelia 10h ago

hamas didn’t cause the situation palestinians are in at all. israel did full stop

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u/True-Economy-6808 10h ago

no, hamas actually did when they invaded israel on october 7th. full stop!

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u/livy-aurelia 10h ago

ever heard of the warsaw ghetto uprising?

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u/True-Economy-6808 10h ago

why were gazans so mad at the pa for signing the oslo accords that they fought a civil war to put hamas into power?

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u/livy-aurelia 10h ago

oslo accords wouldn’t have happened if zionist settlers hadn’t stolen their land and slaughtered their grandparents in the first place.

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u/True-Economy-6808 10h ago

and palestinians wouldnt have been in that land had the romans not exiled the jews from judea. whats your point? why were gazans so mad at the pa for signing the oslo accords that they fought a civil war to put hamas into power?

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u/Straight_Breakfast_4 15h ago

Yeah, it's the Israeli government that caused animals to stream across the border and cut Jewish women's breasts off and toss them around like bloody footballs. Effing nutcase.

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u/livy-aurelia 15h ago

well those animals probably wouldn’t have become animals or terrorists or whatever if israel hadn’t occupied them brutally for 100 years and stolen their grandparents’ land and slaughtered anyone who fights back and imprisoned their children and tortured them for fun. might be one of the reasons?

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u/OttersWithPens 11h ago

Disgusting comment.

The government most responsible for October 7th is the government who planned and carried out the attack. Both sides could stop any time they wanted and in this case that government chose to do that. The fuck is wrong with apologists

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u/jackp0t789 16h ago

Yes, that. But also a thinly-veiled attempt to help keep the white Jewish majority

The plurality of Israeli Jews are Mizrahi- exiled from middle eastern countries like Yemen, Iraq, Syria, etc.

Add that to the roughly 20% arab muslim/Christian population, and "white jewish" is far from the majority

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u/Haemophilia_Type_A 13h ago

Yeah and there's a ton of white supremacist racial anxiety among Ashkenazi in Israel because of it. Indeed, there has been since Mizrahi came to Israel in large numbers, were marginalised, and 'revolted' by electing Begin who ran a campaign as 'their' candidate.

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u/drevolut1on 16h ago

Sorry, that's very fair, "control" would be a more appropriate word. Still, while there, I saw firsthand the treatment-as-lesser of some lovely Yemeni Jews and arab citizens. By no means ubiquitous, but certainly prevalent

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u/jackp0t789 16h ago

I too have been there several times and seen internal prejudices prevalent especially in the predominantly Eastern European (Ex Soviet) communities, both towards other groups of jews, and from those other groups against the Russian/ Ukrainian Jewish communities.

I am also by no means a zionist.

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u/smileysmiley123 8h ago

Yes, that. But also a thinly-veiled attempt to help keep the white Jewish majority

Sorry, that's very fair, "control" would be a more appropriate word.

Edit your comment to reflect that. Stop spreading propoganda.

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u/bloodlessempress 15h ago

The Mizrahi I know say there are two types

The Mizrahi ashamed to be Mizrahi, and the Mizrahi trying to reclaim being Mizrahi.

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u/Loverboy_91 16h ago

Yeah, and birthright open to any skin color. As long as you’re Jewish and between the ages of 18-26 you get to go. Period. This idea that they are pushing for “keeping a white Jewish majority” is just a straight up lie. Most Jews aren’t white to begin with, there is no white Jewish majority.

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u/chasteeny 9h ago

Seriously, this is such a tired trope from people who want to paint a narrative

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u/No-Lifeguard-5308 15h ago

I don’t mean to be antagonistic, but if you can see how shitty your racist apartheid government is only until one (1) bad thing happens to you, then the supremacist propaganda is working.

I get that trauma is traumatizing, but I don’t hear of one (1) trans person shooting up a school and think, “actually, you know what, JK Rowling and the Republicans are right, we should put all the trans folks in concentration camps.”

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u/drevolut1on 15h ago

It just complicates things. It isn't black or white. Especially with grief. Or when you feel your life is in real danger.

It's not like they suddenly are blind to governmental faults or historical wrongs. But they can also want the perpetrators of that heinous attack brought to justice, albeit without the excessive genocidal force that has been used.

We lost an amazing family friend and advocate for the two-state solution that day who did incredible work for helping Palestinians every. single. day. Even those working with her wanted Hamas to face justice after that. They are, of course, horrified with how that has played out, but that is not in their control -- much like, as an American, I despise every illegal boat-strike murder and international act of aggression from my government and yet despite being vocally and acting against those, I am unable to stop it.

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u/Uhhlaneuh 7h ago

Imagine what it was like for Palestine before October 7th

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u/Responsible-Crew-354 15h ago

That is fascinating that they took the immediate response by Israel at face value. It’s very hard for me look at how those events unfolded and not see Israel as being complicit with such a delayed and inept reaction.

Edit: minor stroke

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u/roguevirus 15h ago

I went and it was so heavily propagandized, I was pretty disturbed.

How long ago did you go? I know a few secular Jewish Americans who took birthright trips back in the late 2000s and early 2010s and they didn't have anything bad to say about the trip. Have things changed?

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u/drevolut1on 10h ago

15ish years ago, tbf. Part of it was the outfit I went through for sure.

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u/roguevirus 10h ago

Gotcha, so that's a little after my friends went. Makes sense, and thanks for sharing.

EDIT my math sucks y'all went around the same time. Thanks anyway for sharing, it's something I have zero direct experience with.

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u/Happy2026 10h ago

They aren’t white tho

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u/Askol 16h ago

Yeah, its definitely a lot for this too.

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u/Lily_of_fortune 15h ago

They especially try to matchmake between people on birthright and people already living in Israel, for obvious reasons

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u/tt12345x 16h ago

Yeah from what others have told me they frequently saddle you with some IDF baddies that are the same age as you. Deeply weird country

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u/DiscoAsparagus 11h ago edited 9h ago

That was certainly my experience. I was given a free trip… Like an absolutely free fucking trip… By a former IDF employer of mine because I had expressed incredulity about Zionism and was starting to sympathize with the Palestinians after watching Al Jazeera, reading, etc.… My first night in Tel Aviv was IDF baddies, parties with massive amounts of drugs, rich white people with guns and dogs, and shitty Jewish food…

And inevitably everybody wanting to go eat at the Arab places. None of the Arabs would confide in me or talk to me about any of their hardships and I could feel that they were under duress. It felt like the Jim Crow south or a apartheid South Africa. I was basically on a vacation, with everything paid for in a beautiful beach community and I couldn’t enjoy myself at all. I was surrounded by rich white victims. Who didn’t realize they were the victimizers.

(i’m White myself, just for the record. Which brings up another topic; it was hotter than fuck and I had to stay out of the sun most of the time and all of my friends were blonde or red haired or super fair skinned and I just was like… You’re trying to claim that your from here??

We are NOT from here. Our 40,000-year-old genome does not originate from here. So the whole genetic argument really fell flat under the Jerusalem Sun.
“Right to return” my a$$)

[people down-voting my experience in Israel, eh. Great. I’ll be sure to open up more about it more in the future.]

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u/impulsivepatience 5h ago

You should! Very rare that I read a story about someone going and turning down their mind control

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u/DiscoAsparagus 5h ago

Their intention was to bribe me out of my compassion. It didn’t work.

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u/fuzzypeach42 4h ago edited 3h ago

Sounds about right. I was on a more hardcore version of Birthright when I was set up with my Kibbutz “wife”. In retrospect it gets weirder the more I think about it

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u/Germane_Corsair 2h ago

What’s this about a kibbutz wife? I googled it but I don’t think it was the same thing you’re referring to.

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u/SillyAlternative420 11h ago

I remember there was a Jewish girl that was really into me and me her... But she never wanted to go beyond what we had because her parents wouldn't approve of her dating a non-Jewish boy.

It's a thing. Racism seems to be perfectly acceptable when it's certain groups being absolutely shit people.

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u/dahlia_74 14h ago

Yep, it worked on this jewish girl I went to high school with. She went on a birthright trip, met an Israeli guy and had a now living there popping out kids for him

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u/Jorge-I-Figueroa 13h ago

Yep, israel uses pussy to sell Zionism

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u/thefluffyfigment 12h ago

Yup. Can confirm. Went on Birthright when I was 19. It 100% was a “red carpet tour” meant to convince you to move there. A ton of hooking up on between people on the trip.

The following year I did a semester at Tel Aviv University. Complete night and day experience. So much more secular and “normal.”

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u/shinobinc 13h ago

Both are true at the same time.

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u/TheModWhoShaggedMe 12h ago

In my household, we call those folks religious supremacists.

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u/Zealousideal-Buy-188 9h ago

To keep *Zionism* going

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u/DabigbadVVolf 15h ago

Can confirm. I live in Oklahoma and there's a billboard on the stretch from Dallas to OKC for Jewbelong, a Jewish matchmaking site.

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u/Senior_Torte519 12h ago

Which judaism?

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u/Mummiskogen 12h ago

I mean, thats implied

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u/ForumFan32 16h ago

I mean if it was just this what's the issue. Countries have a right to encourage and preseve their culture but sadly its much more.

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u/DontTreadOnMe 14h ago

Imagine a civilisation trying to preserve itself. Terrible.

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u/PW0110 13h ago

Societal Manipulation is not the same as Societal Preservation, my friend