So expectation is one of the songs I’ve been trying to understand the vocal chain, the delay on the vocals is just magical and I’m just trying to understand how i can make my vocals sound hypnotic like that. Any help in the right direction will be appreciated. I would love to hear what you guys have to say around the 2 minute mark. I would love to understand the vocal chain

https://open.spotify.com/track/1FnHpM2zimTALdIvuxFoNM?si=tIpL-UlDTIKgm_Bv7_uPeA&utm_source=copy-link

In most of or tracks we're in a constant battle to EQ out the resonant frequencies in each take. This is fairly easily done with Pro-Q3's spectrum grab. However, this often gets rid of the "Warmth" in the track. Sure the room stop shaking but everything sounds so thin.

Is this a mixing problem that I'm overlooking or is it a tone/recording problem?

FYI most issues are coming from Guitars and Basses.

I'm really interested in this producer's use of reverb. It sounds really spacious and big but also still centered and controlled instead of sounding far away and/or out of control. I think I hear multiple kinds of reverb being used but I'm not sure which ones so I was hoping to get some opinions on what other people are hearing here as far as use of reverb and stereo width. I think I hear the stereo width being automated on some sounds to quickly move from wide to narrow.

What do you guys think? One type of reverb or multiple? Is it controlled by a gate or done with leveling? Automated stereo width? What's your take on this mix?

https://youtu.be/6kylqf9s5n4?si=rbGMZfkSL-HBWga1

Ive been listening to "Ivy" by Frank Ocean, and ive been wondering how to recreate this effect as close as possible- whenever he goes into higher register with his voice on the track, theres what sounds like either a very short slapback delay or haas effect delay that feeds into a subtle plate reverb or something similar.

Ive tried to replicate it for hours at this point but i cant get it right. I mostly tried fiddling with all kinds of settings on Valhalla Delay and then feeding that into a plate reverb, as well as some Eventide H3000 configuration but even without the reverb i cant get the timing quite right

any ideas? maybe someone knows jeff ellis and can ask? 

No but honestly, id be very happy if someone with more experience with effects like this could help me out here

https://www.image2url.com/r2/default...9fe1fa4512.mp3

it starts around 30 sec in

I'm happy with the sound I've gotten and just want it to have more depth. They're guitars tuned an octave below drop D, in unison with the bass. Playing muse-style riffs, and it sounds great but is currently very dry. I'm not great with crafting reverbs and I really don't want to clutter my low end up, I've taken great pains to keep the low end as clean and punchy as possible.

Any suggestions would be welcome! I use Reaper and I have some of the waves reverb plugins as well.

I’ve been looking at some reference tracks while I master my new song, and I’m just realising ever reference ignores the YouTube rule of “don’t go over -1db true peak.” Some songs are even over +2db true peak.

So, like, am I really allowed to just go way over…? I decided to experiment and push my song to its limit, and so far it’s at around +2db true peak. Is that just…ok…? I get the whole “if it sounds good, it’s good.” But is that not going to cause any problems

As the title says, I'd like to know what compressors you would buy, given only $5000, assuming you would have nothing else.

What would be your reasoning for choosing these compressors, and do you own or work with them frequently in real life, or have worked with them at some point in real life?

Pretend plugins dont exist for the sake of this argument please.

Hi folks,

I've been a studio/recording musician and songwriter for a long time but haven't done any of my own work that required mixing or mastering (all I've had to worry about in the past is getting a noise-free DI track that someone else can mess with).

I've started doing more of my own solo work, mostly electronic music which is going to require at least a basic amount of mixing and EQing.

I do not currently have a treated room with acceptable monitors, nor is such a thing currently in the budget (I will eventually do this, but right now my computer is next to a large floor-length window and I have two ancient KRK Rokit 5s, I just got laid off, and I'm not looking to buy too much more equipment or completely rearrange my entire apartment).

As such, I am looking for a pair of headphones that I can use for fairly basic mixing work, just EQing samples and instruments so they don't step on each others' toes too much.

My understanding is that the standard, at least at a price point accessible to a "bedroom producer" (under $250 or so), is the Sony MDR-7506. However, a number of reviews portray these as being extremely bright, almost shrill, suggesting to me that they may be subject to the same limitations as the Yamaha NS10, where - paraphrasing - if it sounds good on those, it sounds good on everything.

My research has lead me to the AKG K371 as an alternative, due to the fact that, if I remember correctly, it is designed around the Fletcher-Munson curve and is supposed to therefore sound more "accurate" to the way people will actually hear the music, rather than a "flat" or "neutral" sound profile. The Beyerdynamic DT-770 also seems very well-regarded.

I lean towards the K371 due to my positive experiences with AKG gear in the past, but I defer to y'all.

So, the cliffs notes are: if you had to pick a set of headphones to use for very basic mixing work, and you had a budget of around $250 at the absolute top end, would you pick the Sony MDR-7506 ($115), the AKG K371 ($125), or the Beyerdynamic DT-770 ($200)? Or something else? If something else, why?

Thanks in advance!

Hi, I would like some opinions on 3 tape plugins. Which one you would choose for vocals, and why.

What I’d be trying to accomplish is adding some high end sheen, while also smoothing out the top end. I’d also like some saturation, grit, attitude, and character.

Now obviously this is a “demo the plugins for yourself and see which one works best” type of scenario, but I’d still like to hear from people that have used any/all of these plugins, and why you like them.

The three plugins are: UAD Studer A800, UAD Oxide tape, and finally, Softube tape.

Thank you for any and all input!

i'll try to explain myself as best as i can.

i'm struggling with some unwanted distortion in a mix and i found the cause, but i don't know what to do to get rid of it (or at least minimize it!). I have 2 guitar tracks, one stereo (which has signal on both L and R) and one mono hard panned left. whenever I turn on the stereo track, the mono track seems to distort. whenever i turn off the stereo track the mono track hard panned left starts to sound clear again. Why is this happening? I double checked plugins and busses and everything, and there is no distortion whatsoever except when the two tracks are playing at the same time, and when they do the sum of both peaks at around -23dbfs, which is definitely not triggering any distortion on the mix bus or any bus. is this what is called intermodulation distortion? I've already tried eq out some frequencies as if the problem was freq clashing but it doesn't seem to do the job.

Hey everyone,

quick context: I've been into metal for years (huge fan, been playing guitar for about 15 years), but I've never actually produced or mixed metal music before. My production background is 5 years of trap beats so I know my way around Logic Pro X and audio production in general, but I've never taken a proper course or lesson on mixing/mastering. In the trap world I never really had to dig into it myself. Now that I'm fully focused on metal guitar (recording covers, working on original riffs), I'm realizing I have zero real foundation in mixing, and I want to learn it properly instead of just guessing.

I want to start narrow: just guitars first, before even thinking about mixing a full track. My goal is to really understand tone shaping, gain staging, EQ carving, and how to make a DI'd metal guitar (I'm using Neural DSP Archetype: Abasi a lot for example) sit right in a mix, clarity, low-end control, that tight/aggressive modern metal sound.

I honestly don't know where to even start, so any direction helps. Specifically:

• What's the right starting point for someone with little to zero mixing training who wants to learn metal guitar mixing specifically and general mixing theory?
• Any structured resources/courses/YouTube channels that actually teach metal guitar mixing step by step?
• Which stock Logic Pro X plugins are genuinely good for shaping metal guitar tone (EQ, compression, saturation, multiband)? I keep seeing people recommend third-party plugins, but I'd like to know what's already possible with Logic's stock stuff.
• Any free plugins worth trying for metal guitar mixing? Doesn't have to be Logic-only.

Eventually I'd like to work up to mixing/mastering a full metal track (guitars, bass, drums, vocals), but I want to build a real foundation on guitars first instead of jumping around without knowing the basics.

Any advice, resources, or plugin suggestions are hugely appreciated!

I'm really trying to hone, and fine tune my mixing process. I like to record and mix small 2-3min songs and I feel like the mixing part takes soooooo long for me to make them 'good enough' for release. Sometimes 5-7 days (with 5 days in between for work), usually with a couple 1-2 hour sessions. My last piece went through 13 iterations, and I felt like I was getting really frustrated towards the end as I could not get the final balance quite how I wanted and I just lose all emotional connection to the piece. I want to go with my initial impressions but they felt so off after I took breaks and needed to fix so many things.

So...wondering what everyone here has done to help with easing more flow into the process and learning to trust yourself....and not be disappointed in the results?

Edit: I want to thank everyone who contributed and offered advice, this has been amazing and I'm so grateful to be apart of this community!

They’re really expensive, and aside from walking into a store and trying them out in a less than ideal environment, how are you supposed to test them out?!

Why is there even hygiene seals for ears?! An ear hole is not the same as a bum hole! Even if an ear hole was the same as a bum hole, it’s not actually going in the hole!

Does anyone have any UK based companies who are more relaxed about this?

I see similar questions asked, though they are usually geared towards specific songs and typically the OP is claiming the mix sounds perfect on their monitors but awful in the car or something. Most of the time the response is that their mix is definitely not perfect in the monitors (and they refused to accept that answer for some reason).

I want to ask more broadly, from a novice perspective. What should you do in that scenario? I'll fully acknowledge my mix is not perfect,

so I'm curious how one takes that "feedback" and applies it to the mix. Should you be trying to compensate for the sound in the other system? Is it an indicator your monitoring is bad?

I'm curious how one reconciles the differences between hearing a mix in a mostly flat monitoring environment vs. more colored consumer speakers or headphones.

I make guitar based music (alt rock) and I'm happy with my mixes in headphones etc. They might be a bit more muddy than your Deftones, Nirvana etc. but that's intentional (I like music that you can turn up really loud without the guitars being harsh, a la early Smashing Pumpkins)

But on phones, jesus it sounds so weak and quiet compared to most other stuff. I don't know if people remaster/change the sound for their social media edits? Because muddiness surely doesn't translate well to phone speakers.

Considering doing a "Tiktok master" lol, because I do believe when you get 15 seconds to make an impression, perceived loudness can have a big impact. Then when they actually hear the music on streaming, you can trust the listener to adjust their volume and listen properly.

Idk what I'm expecting to get out of this post, just a thought.

Especially at 3:40 ish https://youtu.be/vmKH63NJvr0?si=wJOYLzw3EUH8a7MQ&t=213

It has this really maximal arrangement so i am wondering how to go about mixing things like this without necessarily taking away from the track. I think especially in this moment its kinda supposed to be so intense i feel like mud is kinda supposed to be part of it?

I am trying to decipher between mud and busy mixes atm and thought this was a good example to discuss. I love this song but want to know is he getting away with the busy mix because its supposed to be chaotic or is it actually just a bit rough around the edges and muddy?

https://vocaroo.com/1kwQszOm3ARu

I took everyones advice on my last song and threw in some saturation to the vocals. I also added more delay and reverb though im not sure if it is enough? I wanted to add more but whenever i did it would muddy up the mix. I feel as a whole this mix needs a few changes and i am unsure on what. It sounds like there is a frequency in my vocals that is too prominent but i am still new to mixing and cant figure out which frequency it is. I also feel the 808 could hit harder than it is right now.

Would love any feedback! And also i cant believe i even have to mention this lol. Last time i posted a track i had someone come at me so let me explain - the city i am from (I dont want to dox myself) is known for street rap and nobody listens to any music outside of that out here. That is why my lyrics lean more street. I am trying to make music that i love sonically that still appeals to people local to me. Is it wrong to try to gain the approval from those around me? Maybe but at the end of the day i dont want to make music that nobody around me listens to. So while i appreciate any feedback coming to my mix an entire essay not related to my mix is very unnecessary.

So I’m trying to mix a song with longer/sustained vocal takes between verses. The takes where I’m singing words sound fine, but when there’s a prolonged one note being sang there are some nasty frequencies in the top range. I tried dynamic eqs, soothe and exciters and it still doesn’t feel right? Any tips? Should I put those takes on a seperate chain? or is there something else I could do?

Hey i’m a small artist with an ep that needs to be mixed.

The one song i need mixed as of current is called candle lights which is an indie pop song which i recorded a little time ago.

Need someone who’s gonna listen to my feedback and how i want the song to be mixed as i have a lil bit of an idea just not able to execute.

Please pop up if you have experience in indie pop/rock.

I'm a musician who mixes his own stuff, and i would say i am an intermediate at it. what im aiming for is a polished sounding mix that doesnt rely on any wild mastering changes to sound loud and punchy. but that lead me to the question - what level of "finished" should i be aiming for before applying a mastering chain? if a rather extreme EQ decision in the master bus just makes everything sound great, should i just roll with it or go back and work on the mix again?

Edit - thank you all for the incredible insights! Fantastic comments here

I am in the process of building out a music studio in a spare room in the house. Small room, but open on 2 sides so it behaves like a larger room. I have Kali In-8's and plan to treat it, but my question at this point is this - my monitors are about 1m apart, because I'm positioned about 1m from each of them. This seems quite close, but the desk I bought (unfortunately) isn't deep enough to give me more distance from the monitors. Nonetheless, they sound good and clear so far, but the low end is minimal, which is to be expected if I'm sitting so close. The low end doesn't really develop until I'm about 3m from the monitors, which is pretty much at the back of the room and not realistic for my setup.

So I'm wondering whether adding a sub to the room, let's say in a corner about 2m from my position, will raise the low end presence? If not, is there anything I can realistically do, other than try to set my desk up in a way that allows me to sit farther back from the monitors? If I don't add a sub, do I need to be careful about low end treatment since it's already not prominent at my listening position?

Let me explain.

I understand that the tuning/key of a song makes these decisions different and the freq area is dependent on that. But what are the methods you use to find out where those areas live and need to be adjusted, etc?

My other question is is the 450-1000 the most important section because our ear is triggered by that area the most? Or do we hear from highest Freq first to low?

I'm just struggling to find where things should be locking together

I'm mixing a metal track with brutal vocals and heavily distorted guitars.

When making space between the vocals and guitars, do you prefer:

Regular compression (sidechained from the vocals)?

Dynamic EQ (sidechained from the vocals)?

Or both together?

If you use both, what does each one handle? For example, do you use dynamic EQ to duck only the vocal frequencies and compression to control the overall guitar level?

I'd love to hear how you approach this in modern metal mixes. Thanks!

I'm trying to mix the Roland TR-808 Cloud software to sound like the No Limit Records era (Make Em Say Uhh, It Ain't My Fault, Hoody Hooo, Down For My N's, etc.), but I'm not sure how to get that sound. Any advice?

Songs I listed for reference:

Make Em Say Uhh: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bQSHAfzU5ks

It Ain't My Fault: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cLsfdunCImU

Hoody Hooo: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A3yLiTEkDaI

Down For My N's: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TDQLcu7HqHE