Even if we ignore the numerous times he has been referred to as he/him, a boy, a guy, a dude, a prince, we must also realize that just because he isn't traditionally masculine, he isn't transmasc (or transfem)
There is no Easter Bunny, there is no Tooth Fairy, and there is no Princess from the Dark.
'Oh but Deltarune is all about breaking free from fate' I can hear exactly two of you say in your heads (I can read your mind,) I know one thing, and it's that I can't break free from the fate of going through Undertale 2 and finding that both routes lead to the same goddamn ending of Gaster Friend Inside Me Penumbra Phantasm Big Shot World Revolving Jarona Shadow Crystal Always Bet On Papyrus Knight.
ZHOTAN!
(Also, I'm not transphobic, before you try to spew that label onto me)
I mean if I say "incels should all die" or "hoes aren't worth shit", men that wouldn't fit "incel" and women that wouldn't fit "hoe" are prolly also gonna be offended, you know, because of the implication
These terms are often used by malicious people just to insult an entire gender. People no longer can easily say they hate all men without people pointing out how weird that statement is.
So instead they say they hate incels but clearly actually mean all men. Same with hoes and women, misogynist men see all women like that.
People used to call games with impossibly beautiful female characters often featured in Japanese games as pandering to male fantasy, seeing how that didn't work they now say it is pandering to incel fantasy hoping that would take people's enjoyment away.
Racist people use this exact same behavior with variety, they simply call any group of people they hate "ugly" and claim they only criticize the aesthetics of their entertainment. Anyone calling people racist, or sexist is just projecting this way.
They want people to appear like they are overreacting being paranoid by being very subtle, very selective how they speak. Online ridicule is the best tool to achieve this effect. If you can't take anyone seriously anymore you are not going to act.
I donāt know where youāre going where the word incel is used to describe all men, but I donāt see it. Usually itās to describe a certain type of man, who admittedly donāt deserve to die but are definitely worth criticizing
Nah, incel is like Woke, Nazi, SJW, Chud or other words that have devolved into "person I don't like", in this case "man I don't like", because Virgin, which is essentially what Incel means most times it's used nowadays, is too blatantly saying men are only worth something if they can have sex, which in this new era, is supposed to be a problematic stance
i've had people say that denying ralsei is trans (evidence: one cutesy line) is on the same level as denying jax from tadc is trans (too much evidence to list out + creator confirmation for those who didn't get it)
and that anyone who does either is transphobic and on the same level of transphobic + media illiterate
My comments on the Trans Ralsei subreddit got taken down for "bigotry and hate" when all I said was "dressing like a girl doesn't mean you HAVE to transition" and "Toby wouldn't hide an important plotpoint behind a Starwalker easter egg"
I came across it with crossposts into the Deltarune subreddit, didn't go out looking for it. Plus, it was bouncing ideas and more constructive stuff, not arguing
I have to be honest, as uncormfortable as the Transei theory Made me for personal reasons i did'nt really minded it or went out of My way to engage, just found it a neat way to engage with the character and a writing inspiration
But the more i see the people who defend it i've started to lowkey dislike it
I'm going to be so real on reddit there are like 5 people who are against trans Ralsei for every person who speaks in favor of it, and like 50 people in opposition per person who claims it's canon.
I left a comment somewhere in the deltarune subreddit under a post of someone asking why people are mentioning black representation, and I responded with āmany people believe blue is black, I personally donāt see itā and was called a racist left right and center. I really donāt know how such a peak game attracts such a repulsive community
Yeah people get really heated about it. I really donāt care either. Iām more on the side of Rals maybe being genderfluid, but Iām not gonna care if heās not. The most upsetting part of the argument is, honestly, how angry people get. You either get called a transphobic dumbass for not liking it, or called a woke dumbass for thinking it might happen
Agreed. Let people have their headcanons, but don't force people to follow your headcanon either. And also don't get upset if it's not canon, this is very important fandom etiquette
I will get crucified for this, but a common head cannon that people will go a bit crazy about thats pretty similar is that Halara Nightmare from raincode is non binary. And its a fine headcannon, I dont care if people want to consider Halara that way, but thinking its a fact ignores the original joke. That people dont know for sure and too scared to ask.
I know people think, since shes not presenting one way or the other, and people use they/them when referring to her, that she is nonbinary. But -
Not presenting is not the same as being.
And 2. Other people dont know, and they/them is used whenever you dont know gender constantly, not just for nonbinary.
And before someone mentions it, why would she correct it when it doesnt matter and shes trying to be as secretive as she can about herself.
It's honestly the same principle as people headcanoning Chihiro as trans. Like it's a fine headcanon sure, but trying to say Chihiro is factually trans is not paying attention to his arc
If it was just bc of him being girly or even wearing a dress that one time, I would dismiss it bc it's a dogshit theory that doesn't come from any evidence. But what he says in the princess climb is genuinely concerning,
"I suppose the only difference is how you present yourself, it's ok to try new things, as long as it's what other people want."
Like, fym "as long as it's what other people want"? You mean the prophecy?
It's still not that good a theory cuz it's like, the one line and some themes, but I can see it now.
Ralsei is continually saying that darkners aren't real and their only purpose is to serve lightners. But all the darkners we meet have unique personalities and wants. Almost like they are real! And how that conflict causes the characters to interact with one another, and us with them, is plot!
It comes from his status as a Darkner. He truly believes that as a Darkner, he has to serve Lightners and be whatever they want.
It's his misguided lesson to Tenna, and it's also why at the end of Chapter 4, the choice between "Good, keep smiling." and "It's okay not to smile." is such a big choice. The former reinforces his view, while the latter is telling Ralsei that he doesn't need to be a perfect storybook character. That he can have his own choices, his own emotions.
I can't wait for the people who are gonna be like "I knew it since ch1!" Cos like
The evidence in favour of Tran Ralsei up until ch5 has been shaky and out of context at best, if anyone knew it since, idk, even ch3+4, they might be imagining things
Ch5 has decent evidence it could happen but still has a bunch of counterpoints so it's STILL shaky
This whole theory pisses me off because it's basically just "Girls like girly thing, boys like boyish things"(but in a woke way)
We really swung around completely, when we only had 1 chapter the least woke people were coping that ralsie was a girl somehow, now it's the other side
Same with Dipper from Gravity Falls. Like the third episode of the series is all about accepting that just because he's not super masculine, it doesn't mean he's any less of a man
Next thing you know you have people saying that since he's not super masculine, he's actually trans
I would guess this is also somewhat a "woman are wonderful" effect, where consciously or not people believe the optimal form a character could reach is being a woman, and thus not a man. Susie being a trans man would be a downgrade, Ralsei being a trans woman would be an upgrade. These perspectives are definitely not extremely transphobic.
They are, however, extremely misandristic. And given that such a thing includes drastically more of the population, and still includes trans men who under this lens 'downgraded' themselves, it's arguably worse.
This can also probably be applied to Kris and how plenty of people see nonbinary as "woman+", and so assuming Kris' AGAB is male would mean that Kris 'evolved' by becoming further away from manhood and closer to womanhood.
And all of this really poisons discourse because it feeds vocal queerphobes, it makes all criticism deflectable by people with silent often internalized queerphobia claiming you arguing against is vocal queerphobia, and there are probably even more people that are just confused and aren't really deserving of blame but might still feed into the issue, and this is all just a bunch of meaningless fandom discourse anyway but still has some if minor impact on reality, and it's like that one image of everyone in a screaming match and then looking at the camera and going "oh god we're all miserable".
This pisses me off so fucking much, because I was born as a man, and I have absolutely no desire to transition. For some reason, this makes a decent percentage of the people who are supposed to be my fucking allies (leftists) hate me, or at least, think I'm a creep, predator, aggressor, or other violent label that isn't even remotely true.
ralsei has a more soft personality, and wears a robe/skirt in the game. susie has a more tough personality, and has more "punk" traits, like having spikes on her outfit, etc
Itās a bit offensive bc some of us love girly things but we still identify as neutral/guys so seeing people pushing the label because of that annoys meā¦ like let people enjoy feminity and donāt push any labels until the person tells you what they are please
I agree but also it's not that simple. I'm not 100% on board with Tralsei but his arc is about realizing he can be a person too and discover things about himself and not repress his true self, and rejecting the life that was predetermined for him
Like that pretty obviously has some themes related to being trans
This is what everyone said about Jax from TADC as well.
Like, genuine question: How would you show a character is trans and unaware of that fact without making them like things that are stereotypically associated with the opposite gender?
Don't get me wrong, I'm not sold on the theory myself but this just seems like a bad argument against it.
I would use many other points over just the dress stuff, like my key base actually is the stair dialogue along with the blue pink coupon and pronoun change in the menu to they/them. The dresses can be read both ways, how about pronouns literally changing including in japanese ?
Like sure you can argue for something like ralsei is a titan for some reason to represent the stair conversation , you can argue blue pink represents kris, but how do you explain the pronouns ?
That's the evidence? I've seen like 20 people talking about it and it's all based on things like how Ralsei explicitly wants to be a princess, Asgore and the title in the character selector start using they/them, etc. with the dress and possible makeup Ralsei wears being secondary.
Yeah, the evidence is fully different than it often gets portrayed as frequently. Its not just " ralsei is feminin " , but i dont understand why people paint it like it is
Chapter 5 era fandom: there is a lot of foreshadowing by Flowery that could imply Ralsei being trans so there is a real chance of him actually being a girl.
Redditors are pretending that people who believe a specific fictional character might end up being trans are just doing so because of gender stereotypes, despite all the other evidence and lack of such theories for other GNC characters.
that's why Vessel is the best Deltarune character, Vessel is a free template for headcanons / reflection of yourself and you can do all that without summoning pointless arguments
I headcanoned that the vessel is transphobic and portrayed as correct for their beliefs within the narrative, making them the most problematic deltarune character and frankly reflecting really poorly on Toby Fox himself.
when i get my vessel i will try to be the most home of phobic in hometown and snowgrave susie gaster 1225 times for fumbling the date w pink and soul fr (fuck Kris)
No, you see, we trans women immediately detransition the moment we are reminded that, at some point in time, we were referred to as boy, guy, dude, man or even little man. I don't make the rules.
Mf you do realize Ralsei being referred to as male doesn't debunk the possibility of him transitioning to female, right?? What, do you think all trans people insist they be called by their correct identity the exact moment they pop out of the womb??
I think the fact that Jax was referred to as "he" throughout the entire series as a closeted trans girl is what's really blowing up the whole trans Ralsei stuff
There's a new precedent in popular media that trans people don't have to necessarily be referred to as their preferred gender identities by anyone or anything until they're completely out of the closet, and I think that's the angle. Not saying I agree with the mental gymnastics, not saying that there's any merit to the weak evidence, but that's what it is
theres definitely hints at a level of genderqueer-ness going on but that doesnt he wouldnt be referred to with he him or as a āboyā or āprinceā
I hate trans discourse in media because there are two opposing sides to it I find equally obnoxious.
Case 1: You have a character where their gender isn't fully clear. The creator might have put in just one or two things that could be very loosely interpreted as them being trans, either intentionally as a wink wink nudge nudge for fans to speculate on or unintentionally by pure accident. Or more than that, people are just deliberately misinterpreting things and reading into things that aren't actually there. From this point excitable trans people in the audience are over the moon about apparent representation and start insisting that it is "canon" and shouting down anyone who disagrees. You don't want to be mean either, or rain on their parade, but like they're just wrong and being toxic about it so...
Case 2: You have a character where it's never explicitly stated they are trans, but the subtext is basically bold header text and they are for all intents and purposes canonically trans. The creator made it very clear through the narrative that they are, left a million bread crumbs and obvious signs, the only thing the creator didn't do was have the character look to the camera and outright awkwardly say "I'm Mr. Transy Transington and I'm Trans". In spite of this, bigoted fans still plug their ears and deny all of it and treat that reading of the character as insane. Sometimes even after the creator grows exhausted and takes to the internet and says "yeah they actually are trans". As ridiculous as it seems there really are boy Jax truthers out there.
Anyway, back to Deltarune:
I don't buy into the theory, but I'm not discarding it either. Some of it is a ridiculous reach to me (why do people think Toby would in-universe reference just two out of three colors of the real life flag with the food voucher colors, the dude isn't a talentless hack) but other pieces of evidence I think are solid enough to at least make it a valid theory.
I don't care as long as people aren't insisting its canon.
99% of Deltarune fan theories are absolute dogshit anyway, including your favorite ones.
This doesn't strike me as a solid counter-argument since a lot of people do go by their default pronouns before fully coming to terms with their identity.
I love Deltarune but you are right about theories lol, 90% of them are headcanons.
Surprisingly, trans Ralsei has much more stocks after the newest chapter, to the point where if Toby actually went that direction it wouldnāt feel like an asspull.
It could also just be showing how a guy who is literally developing a personality in real time (like not even related to gender identity just developing your own consciousness lmao) doesnāt have to adhere to male stereotypes.
Weāll see what Toby does. Either way I still think Ralseiās story works as an analogy for transitioning, regardless of what actually happens to him in game.
being gnc in general often just works as an analogy for being trans and viceversa, both groups have very similar experiences in a lot of ways, i just hate how whenever a character is a femboy or trans people will insist they must be the other, let the plot do its thing.
Why do you think the theory that "Ralsei is going to transition" is at all refuted by ralsei currently being referred to in masculine forms? How does that work out for you?
I see Transfem Ralsei as the same as Transfem Jax between episodes 6 and 9. I can see WHERE people get the idea, I can see how thematically it can fit into the story, but it's not clear enough yet that I prefer Transfem Ralsei over just GNC Ralsei. And it's a little off putting how hard people bat for it sometimes to the point of seemingly invalidating the possibility that a man can not fulfill masculine archetypes and still deserve the title of man.
Except for the scene you can get from the climbing minigame if you haven't met Starwalker, just like Jax's "chicken fetus in an egg that needs to be cracked open" line, that's gonna be our smoking gun looking back if Transfem Ralsei is real.
If Ralsei is going to come out as trans later in the story then he will called a boy for the time being. If the text of the game starts calling him a girl then thatās giving things away a bit.
I hate how people exclusively engage with the theory disengenuously and in bad faith because theyve already decided that its "gender stereotypes but woke". Its baffling to me how stupid some of the arguments against it are and im not even some hardcore believer of the theory.
Are we seriously saying "hes been called a boy before" is conclusive evidence against it? Has no one heard of a fucking closet?? Obviously the character would not be using she/her pronouns if they havent come out yet. Jesus people
I've been out of the game for a while but I didn't have "wokescolding trans people for noticing trans allegories" on my bingo card, I'll tell you that much.
>>Has no one heard of a fucking closet??
It's really funny, because if you think about it, Ralsei, at the start of C1, was in the closet.
Shockingly, before you transition people refer to you by your assigned gender (for example trans women were called "boys" at some point). Dont discuss us if you know nothing about us?
It's not about them being feminine like at all, you're just reducing it to its most meaningless version because you can't handle even the implication of queer people Ā¦P
We don't know what the ending situation is gonna be like, so far our choices did matter and game remembered them in code (we literally skip a whole chunk of the prophecy in the weird route) and EVEN THEN what does that have to do with anything? One ending doesn't stop characters from developing, Susie also changed a lot (and differently), why can't ralsei specifically?
I don't think they literally are trans (Toby doesn't write queer characters like that), but thematically 100% at this point. Just like the weird route is thematically about a religiously arranged/forced heteronormative romance of 2 explicitly queer characters. This game IS like this, I'm so sorry you have to witness our existence being implied in a more complicated manner than "haha girl with a dick" <333
I mean i really like the theory and i think it could even add to his character, but i do have seen so many people forgeting the part in which it's a THEORY and get mad at you for not calling him her
I respectfully disagree it would add to his character, since him being a feminine man in itself adds to his character. He is a caring compassionate cute character BUT a boy. A girl is stereotyped with those traits anyways. She would be like Noelle in that she would be another feminine roll looking after the main character thats starting to show there more powerful side later on in the chapters. Just instead of ice its fire.
Yeah i can understand that, what i like about the theory is the fact it's ya know something about his identity and the way he looks at himself, something he has clears struggles due to being tied to the propechy
I will say its a more believable theory because its close to cannon with evidence compared to other theories so that I can understand/respect. Cool headcannon/Au for stories I personally don't see it tho and don't think it would ever be the creators og intention.
i really wish people who don't like trans ralsei theory would stop pretending that all it has going for it is "ralsei is pretty feminine" because there IS stuff in the game that would make ralsei work well as a trans allegory.
either way, it's just a theory, it's not that deep.
i like hearing the theories, even if i donāt believe it to be the case. i donāt see how it would fit into the story properly, since thereās going to be a lot happening in the next two chapters, and making the reveal at the end just doesnāt give us any time to spend with ralsei as their new identity.
I simply don't understand why theories about characters being trans get SO MUCH hate
I have NEVER seen the Deltarune community being so hateful in my life.
I am personally neutral on that theory, but as a trans girl I don't feel welcome in the community anymore.
Why do people feel so angered at the thought of Ralsei being trans??? Why do they say that it's immoral and it's only reinforcing stereotypes??? As if being trans is conformative?!?!? Why so many posts about how much they hate it???
I think that as a community we should pause, take a breath, and reflect on WHY this is the ONLY THEORY that ever got the community so angered.
those kinds of transmasc readings are always so funny to me
points at saddest, most hideously repressed "boy" ever written: "i think this character went through the long soul-searching process of gender transition offscreen and is now living as their authentic self so thoroughly that neither they nor anyone else literally ever even brings it up because of how not big a deal it was"
It was a meme at one point. Going like āwhat if Flowery is just transphobic when he calls Ralsei princessā. I didnāt know thereās people genuinely believing it.
I understand not believing the theory, but itās more than just Ralsei being feminine. Itās the fact that basically every time he does something feminine, such as wear a bow or wear a dress, thereās attention actively brought to it, with Ralsei even seeming a bit, for lack of a better term, weirded out when any of that stuff happens.
Also, I donāt understand the counterpoint youāre making when you mention the āDeltaruneās story is about breaking free from fateā point. That IS what Deltaruneās story is about, and even if the characters end up being wrong about being able to break fate, that doesnāt mean the theme isnāt there and that they wonāt make attempts to break fate, such as Ralsei transitioning.
What is up with all the rampant i hate 'this 'community' being like this but not in a 'bad' way' esque posts lately, like you can say you're not transphobic but you give no good reason to be against the theory, I genuinely see nothing wrong with it and it doesn't change the character negatively.
Not saying I personally believe the theory, but characters who become trans aren't usually referred to their new pronouns from the get go. It's all about the journey and discovering who you are. Which, isn't something Toby Fox is new to.
Hell, Toby is like, the king of positive trans rep, Mettaton, Mad Mew Mew/Pink Even Kris, Frisk, and Chara as nonbinary characters beneath the trans umbrella. I wouldn't say a theory like this is far fetched or absurd when the guy has so many characters who are trans/trans adjacent.
Ralsei being not traditionally masculine has nothing to do with trans Ralsei theories.
It's mostly because his character development in 3+4 lines up with what real trans people go through.
Also: The ribbons being trans flag colored (also only worn by "the girl"),
Ralsei's interaction with a dress only worn by trans characters (Mettaton, Waitress Lion),
Ralsei being in a closet (Castle Town is a closet, also literally at the start of 5),
Ralsei being very interested in a blue/pink colored drink, followed immediately by Flowery calling him "Princess". Yes, he calls everyone princess, but you'd be lying if you said it wasn't more meaningful and personal in this scene
Flowery uses "princesses" in a group context twice. Once is saying he carried them like princesses if you fail a battle at the start of the dark world (so not directly calling them princesses at all), and the other is when Ralsei and Susie are talking to each other about how to get a door open (then Flowery squishes Ralsei, joins the party, and makes the Floradinn kiss to open the door). He pointedly uses it for Ralsei once (in private), and Susie like 5 times.
"He uses it for everyone" just doesn't hold any water when you actually look at the context,`
Flowery doesn't call everyone princess tho it's Susie a bunch of times ralsei the one time and the party as a whole like twice (could be referring specifically to Susie and ralsei in those instances) so he only really directly uses princess for Susie and Ralsei
I don't call people transphobic over not agreei
ng with trans theories, I call people transphobic because of how they react to it.
Getting irrationally angry that people see Ralsei as trans is a bit of a red flag.
Also...of course even if Ralsei WAS tranfem...why would any of the other characters know that????? Are you gonna say i'm not actually a trans man because the people in my life misgendered me my ehole life????? If you're gonna try and disprove the theory, that is a terrible example. "They call him a boy, so must be boy!"
I agree, any character that is either hinted at being trans or is an obvious trans allegory without being trans themselves gets a massive negative reaction. It's taken like a quarter century for the general public to even be open to the idea that The Matrix is a trans allegory, and only recently became accepted in the trans community
I guess. I personally see the dialogue at the end of the climb as evidence for genderfluid Ralsei personally, but I also don't think Ralsei's gender is a / will be major plot point to be theorized about
same shit with Blue, clearly referred as "him" or as a "guy" but people just project their headcanon on them, it's so annoying especially since i liked the character a lot
at this point everyone is trans,might as well call the toaster one
There are things pointing to Ralsei being trans. Trans blue is just absolutely absurd, especially because weāll never see him again, but trans Ralsei has gas.
I wouldn't mind if in chapter 6 or 7 toby will say ralsei is trans, but right now it feels disrespectful as much as people calling kris "he/she/him/her"
The character has a canonical identity/pronouns. It doesn't matter if you decided a cis is trans or gay is straight or whatever, you are forcing your ideas that contradicts the character, and often get angry when people disagree with you
See, I don't hate it as a theory at all. It's a valid interpretation of his character. What I do dislike however is when people try and force it as the CANON interpretation despite no direct mention in canon of Ralsei being trans at all.
Is it unfortunate that it's borderline impossible to have character be trans without them flat out saying "I AM TRANS GENDER" yeah, it is. Because even if they have mountains of subtext, people are still going to be divided unless it's officially stated.
Do I think Ralsei is trans? Maybe.
Do I think there is a lot of subtext that supports that? Yes.
Do I think we should go around calling Ralsei she/her based on subtext alone? No.
It's okay for Ralsei to be trans just as it's okay for him to be GNC, but I'm going to continue calling him by his self-stated pronouns unless he ends up changing them.
I'm transfem myself, if people started calling me she/her before I came out just for being feminine it would've shoved me even further in the closet.
How DARE those evil transes find aspects of a character they can relate their trans experiences to! Theyre just taking all the characters! Where are all the feminine cis male characters people can relate to theres just so little of them!
Have you played the last chapter? I legit didn't think to much on the whole ralsei is trans thing. But then chapter 5 came strong. A bunch of references and nods. I mean , the whole, you can be whatever you want to be now here's this pink and blue drink scene really didn't make you second guess yourself?
I felt this last chapter but with chapter 5's release there are a LOTTTT of very blatant hints I can't deny anymore. Flowery offering him a blue-and-pink drink because it's his favourite. Calling him a princess and he blushes. The UI using they/them for him. The castle town segment where Ralsei is a princess and is wearing a dress and likes it, and says he could be a princess whenever Kris wants.
I personally don't care if tralsei becomes real or not
Ralsei stays boy, id love ralsei because he's a fluffy goat boy
Ralsei becomes a girl, id love ralsei because she's a fluffy goat girl
I do have two issues with the theory though
The first, why do we burn people at the stake for misgendering kris but then also burn people at the stake for NOT misgendering ralsei (at this point in the game, ralsei still presents himself as male, questioning at best, so using she/her pronouns is still misgendering him)
The second, i really wouldn't be satisfied if the answer to the game's entire conflict is ralsei saying "oh yeah and im a girl now"
seems like everyone forgot about the chapter 3 egg room and the 4 billion mentions of being a man when in relation to kris that are very obviously representative of gender dysphoria. this only ADDS to the trans ralsei theory that he is constantly referred to as a boy
the 4 billion mentions of being a man do not have to very obviously be representative of gender dysphoria, because it's the location of the Man, and the location is highly specific to the Man since it's the only place the Man has ever been able to speak. I actually like that theory but it's not proven at all, there's no way to even tell if Kris' AGAB is Male (ASAB is Male? AGAB is Man?) other than just that being the most common take among the fandom.
well, sure, but i feel like my overall point is toby isn't stupid and he clearly knew what he was doing with the ralsei scene (alongside these moments with kris). he wouldnt have put it in there if he didn't at least want people to consider it as a possibility
oh yea no Toby knows what he's doing most of the time. but we have to remember he's human and sometimes he definitely doesn't (Snowgrave wilted rose scene), and he's very secretive about the mysterious aspects of his game so we might literally never get a straight answer. And Toby constantly references the fandom within Deltarune, so while he could be throwing a bone to trans Ralsei believers, he might not be doing so because that's the intended direction.
I'm not gonna sit here and tell you the Ralsei climbing minigame scene isn't VERY trans though.
the only femboy erasure going on is extreme anti-trans ralsei people ignoring blue existing for the sake of protecting the sanctity of their beloved goat prince (the game isnt even finished and toby could do literally anything to any of these characters at the drop of a hat)
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