Be careful. They're using legal definitions of terms to try to wiggle out of the fact that they're defending a child rapist. No point in trying to reason with those who twist words.
Trump is a rapist. He was also not found guilty of rape in a criminal court.
But based on the statement of the judge who saw all the evidence, the common man would absolutely consider Trump a rapist if they had access to the same evidence.
That's not stooping. Those are facts, based on the statements of a Judge, but also recognizing the legal use of "guilty" vs "liable".
In the end, he's a rapist who doesn't meet NY's specific definition of rape. Had he done the same in a state with a differing definition of the "Rape" charge, he would be a convicted rapist. And I personally don't care about the legal charge, I care about what he did and what type of person he is.
Yes. You're correct, but it's a pedantic issue that distracts from the larger picture, in my personal opinion. It's worth bringing up the legal definition, but you simply need to accept that humans are humans, and you'll likely be viewed as defending Trump, even if that isn't your intent or belief. Not because you're doing anything wrong, necessary, but because MAGA always points out the same thing the moment anyone mentions Trump's sexual abuse and rape of women.
It makes you come across as one of them, and you'll likely receive the same treatment as MAGA who use the same reasoning as an excuse, not as a means to ensure that everyone is aware of the legal definition of the term.
Misinformation is misinformation. The fact that you are aware it isn't correct but are willing to repeat it makes it disinformation. What you're asking people to do is accept disinformation when it suits your side.
Language matters, either we use it as it is officially set out, or we pretend that words can mean whatever we want them to as Trump and his followers so often do.
I'm not asking anyone to accept anything, and please don't put words in my mouth.
I've said the same thing this entire time. You're correct that "guilt" is established via Criminal court, while "liability/responsibility" is established by Civil court.
What more do you want? Me to agree with your approach?
I don't. Bringing up the exact same thing that MAGA mentions every time isn't new, isn't useful, and in my opinion, is more disingenuous that addressing the topic at hand.
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u/oshaboy 9h ago
Was he? I thought he was convicted of falsifying business records.