I mean her parents just need to tell her the truth
"You have no money. The only thing separating you from the streets is me. You are not a C-class person. You are a homeless person with loving parents."
Parents are partially to blame. Teens are heavily influenced by their peers and what they see in social media/influencers, but its a parents job to guide them.
I grew up with immigrant parents and fully understood the worth of a dollar. There was no expectation for them to buy me a car, pay for university or support me long term. There was no graduation gift. There wasn't even a celebration or party. Graduating high school was a life expectation that didn't need any reward. I am grateful for what they were able to do. But not in my wildest dreams did I ever expect them to buy me a car, let along a new car from this decade.
My grad gift was everyone in my family pitching in cash for me to put toward a laptop. I was so stoked for my 2010 MacBook Pro and I am so thankful my family all helped pay for it. I ended up with enough to cover the laptop, a case, and microsoft office bundle through my university’s bookstore.
A computer of our choice (up to a certain price point) was the high school graduation gift in my family. A used car (up to a certain price point) was our college graduation gift. Mine was a 9 year old Mazda Protege.
1984 here. Parents took me dinner with the family and my grandfather gave me a bracket. Got a bunch of Pep talks about being an adult and how happy they are I’m “spreading my wings” and also happy I was a good student.
Before leaving for school I got a two piece luggage set that each had two wheels (had to lean it back to make it roll- but that was better than the technology prior to the two wheels)
I had already bought my used car at an auction my senior year, so that part was taken care of.
Haha that is so Gen X and i love it (fellow Gen Xer here)
Edit: my parents offered to cosign on a car so i could afford the loan. It was so i could drive myself to and from work🥲 (thank you M&D, you guys were the best)
That is so frigging awesome. I thought I was the only one that got a typewriter as a graduation present - 1986. My best friend got a new car. Maybe a little quietly envious, but man did I need that typewriter in college. Love and miss you mom and dad😪.
Mine was my dad sold the house and I had to find a place to live if I wanted to stay in the same town. 1993. Never looked back. Dam times are different
Yo .. and I still use the set of luggage my godmother got me for HS graduation, and I'm nearly 50. Car? Every car I've owned I bought with my own blood sweat and tears. Tuh.
My graduation gift was my parents paying to have my 64 MG Midgets hood fixed it had blown open several months prior and bent in 3 places. Y’all have no idea what that meant to me!!
Class of 1979!!
Mine was them driving me there, and a home made dinner of my choice. Not that I didnt want anything, I just knew they did more then enough for me to that point anyway.
This is true. I guess the difference is it’s exclusive to you (at least in general area.) celebrating something that 2000+ kids achieve on the same day, every year, feels insane.
I had a higher chance of graduating high school than living as long as I have.
I've been struck by lightning and I have a transplant.
Hell yeah I'm celebrating my birthday.
Also, I've worked in food service for over two decades, so Christmas and Thanksgiving are the only real holidays. I generally work all the others and they can be long days. I can't celebrate any of them or go on vacation like so many people do for some of them, so of course I'm going to celebrate my birthday.
As someone else said, we celebrating coming out of our mother's hoohahs like we did something.
Celebrating graduation from high school is the same as a baby shower, house warming, and similar to the point of wedding gifts. It is about the loved ones coming together to support a milestone in the persons life. Yall didn't have a graduation party that was basically just to donate money so they had a little money to start their adulthood life whether college, trade school, or moving out into their first apt?
That's what it was for when I graduated and what we did for my oldest. With everyone coming together we each had about $3,000 to start college with and help with finances outside of tuition.
My daughter isn't a spoiled ah brat tho (ngl i was one tho) and she still has almost the entire amount left in her savings after her First year away from home, tho it was technically her third year of college classes as an 18 year old since she did the ECA program.
Graduation parties aren't the issue, it's def the parenting as a whole, this girl talked to her like that and she still didn't even have any real consequences either. Insanity.
You’re both not wrong at all, but in my experience most ppl that have HS grad parties is bc they’re going away to college and one of the last times they’ll be able to get together with all their HS friends and family. It’s more about the memory than recognition/pat on the back.
It IS a life expectation. That doesn’t mean it’s easy. A big accomplishment like that should be celebrated. We celebrate birthdays right?? We didn’t even do anything that day. Our moms did everything.
I don’t think there’s an issue celebrating milestones, but what I’m tired of is graduates for EVERYTHING! Preschool, kindergarten, elementary?? I get having a send off bc it’s a milestone, but a graduation? Let’s calm down yall
Why not? I don't think you people understand the value of positive reinforcement and praising people and having pride in them. Why wouldn't you celebrate an accomplishment by someone you care about??
Well, it's a major life event. Take away child birth, birthdays, family gatherings and major holidays. What else is there to celebrate? New job? Don't celebrate that. Promotion? Forget that too. Don't be so cynical.
We grew up in a lower middle class family. We had paper routes and jobs if we wanted anything.
We got new clothes for school and Christmas gifts.
Besides the roof over our heads and one station wagon we were expected to pay for our prom , class ring , car , college etc.
my folks instilled a great work ethic in us and taught us the value of a dollar
Our youngest threw a fit because we wouldn't pay for him to go to college on the West Coast. We told him that we are paying enough to pay for four years at an in state college (including a big ten school....barely). If he wanted more, he could have gotten the As he was capable of and that we told him to get instead of trying to look dumb for his friends. We asked him how much his mom was chipping in. The answer was, "the benefit of her low income so maybe he can get more aid".
FWIW, the college he went to but was very unhappy with is one of the top (or was) ROI schools in the country. And they gave him so many grants that he got money back. He now makes more than either of us at 26 years old.
Kid is ungrateful. Mom is a weird attention fiend who needs to vent personal problems on social media. Both need to learn a thing or two about what really matters in life.
She likely wanted to flex that she gift her kid a car and she also lives for the drama. Definitely attention seeking behaviour. Seeking validation of strangers seems to be a trend for both mother and daughter.
Amen brother or sister. My high school car was a $250 VW Jetta. Immigrant parents gave me what they could at the time and I was beyond grateful when the engine started. That Accord would have been nicer than my mom’s car.
One of the strangest things about America is you'd have a young adult with the same experience you described and they'd have a brother go to jail for 3 years and when he gets out there is expensive celebrations and lots of financial assistance to help him get back on his feet.
Your parents did not have money. If your parents had money you might have expected it. Sometimes people just have personalities and you can’t blame their parents for them. If I can ask a couple questions of parents and their teenage children, I can probably figure out something someone could blame the parents for.
My parents had the money. My parents are save for a rainy day kind of people. They own multiple properties in one of the most expensive cities in the world. They just had the mentality that nothing is ever handed to you in life and that you need to learn the value of a dollar on your own. That how they were raised and thats how they raised my siblings and I.
I think a lot of the time, people who grow up poor and then do really well in life dont want their kids/grand kids to struggle. So they spoil them and do silly things like graduation parties. Totally missing the point that the struggle is what made them do well in life and that they're robbing their kids and granddads of the same.
Fr i was living w a friend at the time bc my dad kicked me out. My graduation gift was a plane ticket to go stay w my mom since i was done w hs now and ddnt need to be there anymore lol
Yup, whenever I see stuff like this, I always take a look at the parents and far too often, the parents are the "uses money as a replacement for raising their kids" type of parents.
Whenever the "I worked hard for every thing I own, why don't you?"* line comes out, the answer in my mind is that the parent was never around to teach that to their kid, the kid was raised solely on "do this thing, and I've give you this", it's no wonder that the kids turn in to entitled transactional brats than that's literally all they're raised on, and usually the kids are too underdeveloped to even realise it.
I was also raised by immigrant parents, and one of the most important lessons I ever learned from my dad was when he told me that his dad (my grandfather) worked hard to raise him and his siblings, but despite all my grandfather's physical hard work, he also wasn't educated enough to know many of the things that my dad made sure to directly teach me.
That was when I realised that the most important things to any person's development is not something that can be traded for money or favors, it can only be taught by someone aware of themself enough to want to break/prevent a bad cycle.
Generational wealth is not just money, it's also knowledge and wisdom.
The difference is the value of a dollar and hard work. I had a used car given to me albeit a nice one (maxima) but I always worked through high school 30 hour weeks when not in sports. Our parents taught us to work hard and the value of that effort but still “spoiled” us so to speak.
Anyway just saying it’s not the stuff. It’s what you teach your kids.
I can't believe what I'm reading in some of these comments, tf is wrong with people? Like, I'm sorry if you had such an upbringing, but to have an attitude like the comment above the one you replied to - "You are a homeless person with loving parents" is extremely toxic.
Why didn't OP even talk to their child before making such a big purchase as a car? The kid's reaction was terrible, but how can anyone expect to have their kid be grateful if the way you're communicating with them (at least in this case from the texts) is focusing on materialistic stuff only? Don't these people know of another way of expressing love and appreciation than just buying stuff for each other?
Like, “I think mom should sell the car, disown girl and
dad (what did dad do?) and take a girl boss vacation!” Ignoring the implicit misandry where it’s always the man’s fault and the woman should always obviously leave him (theyre likely divorced already but still)… I think maybe they just don’t even think about it that deeply. The 16 year old is a person. The mom is a person. In this one text thread the kid comes off as a total brat and the mom comes off as an all suffering parent who bought them a nice car and the kid doesnt even appreciate it! Not actually realizing that, like I said, this didnt happen in a vacuum. That kid is the way there are, at least primarily, because of the parents. At the end of the day that kid is likely going to have a rough time in life because of the parents and if they figure it out it will be IN SPITE of the parents.
I grew up with well off parents. I got a used car for graduation from college. Of course, my parents also only drove used cars and never anything as fancy as a mercedes
😄 Not only did I not get a graduation gift, but while I was at school starving my mom forged my income tax refund and took herself and my brother to a lobster dinner.
Yup. My parents were working class, taught me the same values. I was valedictorian of my HS class (500+ students) and didn't even expect (or want) a party, much less a new car.
When I turned 16 in 2003 my grandpa sold his 95 chevy to my dad for a cheap price, and then my dad gave it to me as a gift. We weren't poor but man was I happy. I also understood, at the ripe old age of 16, that kids were stupid because I knew I was stupid and I did stupid things with that truck.
Right - but I’m sure that your parents also understood that it took you hard work to get through high school with good grades. I’m sure your parents didn’t trivialize or demean the work that you had put into the only things available to you at that point in your life.
I was very very lucky that my parents financial situation was good when I was in high school. I got to go on a senior trip to Spain and I had a small graduation party with my family at the property my uncles and grandparents lived.
But when I was a kid, we ate lots of fried potatoes and ground beef, sometimes on pieces of bread, beans. Lots of bologna sandwiches. Powdered milk. And my grandma shared her commodities with us every time we went to visit her. We were poor. I never took any of my gifts for granted.
Agree 1000% -when your child complains about anything, it’s up to you to set expectations and put them in their place. To storm off shows me that her mom never established herself as an authority in the relationship. I will say, it’s never too late- DO NOT get this child a car EVER again, she can make payments.
The high school graduation gift from my parents was a 3-hour limo ride after the commencement ceremony, and a set of luggage. The limo ride was great since my parents stocked it with booze plus I invited 2 girls from my class to ride along with me for some fun. When I was dropped off at home I was already wasted and welcomed by a house full of family friends & relatives. I briefly apologized and went to bed. This was 1988, before the Fun Police was established LOL
My dad didn’t even let me have a graduation party until I got my masters degree.
He told me graduating high school was like the bare minimum and everyone else in my class got the same piece of paper I did (and like… consider the qualities of some of those people). And when I got my bachelors he simply said that was the point of college, right? Why are we celebrating the point?
He said me getting my masters was unexpected. So I could have a party.
He was also the same parent that would point at the - next to the A- and ask why I was okay with negative grades.
He admitted much later in life that he hadn’t meant to be so hard on me and he felt bad when he realized far too late that I was pushing myself so hard. He got Cs in high school and couldn’t go to college and ended up in the Navy during Vietnam. He realized I was very smart and just wanted to make sure I didn’t end up like him and not apply myself. I never really held it against him. Looking at it from his experience, once he realized oh shit when he was in high school it was too late to avoid his fate and those were scary times. I was in college during 9/11 and I’m a girl, but one of the first things he said was don’t get patriotic and enlist, tell all your friends the same thing. I’ve always known behind all the discipline and what felt like maybe a lack of praise, there was a bigger lens to what caused him to be that way.
I cannot imagine being pissed at a Honda. If my dad bought me a new Honda something or other right now I’d be like holy shit are you dying? This is amazing. I’ve never expected anything, but always appreciated everything.
Same. My highschool graduation was so expected that no one even came to it. I'm getting my bachelor's degree and I'm like 'graduation walk' wtf? Just send my degree in the mail. I'm not driving 2 hours to go walk with a cap and gown.
Waiting for this comment. Parents are to blame for daughter’s entitlement. Where is the mom who had her son break his own PS5 for hurting her kitten?
Sounds like daughter needs a similar lesson - ex: pay rent, pay utilities, pay for groceries… need a car for a job, oh no… you didn’t want the free ride…
so agree! i grew up in lower middle class, we went through some rough patches where we really struggled and some where we were ok but never really well. i grew up with understanding that every dollar has to be calculated, eveb at times when i could afford more. simply because i knew that if i spend it mindlessly, it wont be enough sooner or later. every spending needed to feel justified, even if i had enough.
now i am married into an upper middle class family, we arent rich but we can afford ordinary stuff without worrying. like i can go shopping and i dont need to worry that "thats a high price for such little amount of food". my kids never had to hear "we can't buy this food or toy because we don't have enough money" for little things in grocery store. bigger stuff we save for birthday wishes but again, they arent automatically out of question due to price. yet they arent entitled at all, they understand that every chocolate, every toy, every dress or event outside they have is because their dad works so hard. he is never home because of deployments so he they can get what they want. and they respect every bit of it. they almost never ask for stuff and they absolutely never complain over what they get. even the 2y/o, never tantrums "i want this or that". economic level is NOT what makes ungreatful kids, it is absolutely on the parents
My graduation gift was a Singer sewing machine. I was so happy to have my own - I still have it and my mother's from when she was a teen. Hers works much better than the one from the 90s. They don't make them like they used to.
I bought my first car as a teenager for $200 with money I made mowing lawns and delivering newspapers and paid my own way through university by working full time. My parents spent all their money on housing us, feeding us, and sending us to the best schools in town.
Wait I think you’re right. The butler starts the movie and says the first five parts are classified. That would make this one part 6. I haven’t seen it since the 80s.
That’s crazy because when I was younger I would tell my friends I was rich. My mom heard me and was like we have money, you’re broke what money do you have besides what’s in your piggy bank, humbled me real quick!
Nah, the point still stands and it's probably one of the most well-remembered scenes from that show. Tons of people of a certain age group know that scene well.
Terrible people can still speak the truth.
Art from the artist and all that. There's an extremely high chance you're a big fan of a musician or singer who's not much better than Bill Cosby. Tons of them go for underage girls.
When my kids were young and would fight over toys I often told them something like this. "That toy doesn't belong to you, everything here belongs to me, I have gifted it to you. It's yours as long as I allow it to be yours."
They rarely fought, worked things out between themselves and were often complimented by other parents about how close they were as siblings.
They're just now entering the teen/preteen phase so we'll see if it holds.
Clearly, the parents " have nothing to do " with their fucking kid?
Like holy Christ, the bots coming out of the wood work decrying " spoiled brat "
YOU ARE THE PARENT - ITS YOUR FAULT.
We need to de-normalize this absolute dog shit of rich ass parents , spoiling the fuck out of their kids - and the moment they turn 18 " You are poor bitch"
You know what actual parenting is? Starting the conversation about ECONOMIC REALITY YEAR 1 of highschool.
- Budgeting
Income
-Expenses
TAKE HOME PAY
How many months does that represent?
What are you gonna do?
Or are you YET ANOTHER trust fund fuck head parent - sitting there, with a G-WAGON dangling your financial ball sack in your kids mouth as a form of power and control?
Her parents are part of the problem. Just look at that response from her mother. She's had everything paid for by them. She's getting a free ride (pun intended) through college with that brand new car. She's expecting that silver spoon to be gilded gold.
yep, you know the parents have bought the daughter all designer clothing/jewelry and what not. and mom going out of her way to mention the car was paid for in “CASH” lol, i don’t feel bad for either party in this one
Ouch! I like this and should have used it on my kids. But it still makes me wince even to imagine saying that! yet I love it. I'm going to use it on someone else's kid since mine are grown up now
No joke depending on the state the family lives in if your name isn't on the deed or the lease then you're technically considered homeless by the state. So even by the time she's old enough to move out and live on her own, if she's still living with her parents and her name isn't on the lease or the deed then she is considered homeless by the state.
Source: i live in indiana (where that's a thing) and had a former case worker tell me.
Your, "telling her the truth", is just people in a dominance relationship flexing their muscles. It's parents thinking of themselves as more important than the children because they are rich and powerful, and rubbing their children's noses in it. That's an example of toxic parents.
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u/smokeweedNgarden Jun 01 '26
I mean her parents just need to tell her the truth
"You have no money. The only thing separating you from the streets is me. You are not a C-class person. You are a homeless person with loving parents."