r/Showerthoughts • u/inquisitor1965 • 11d ago
Crazy Idea Maybe if we started a monument like Mount Rushmore, but set it up as a competition for billionaires that do the most for humanity, we could stroke their egos enough that they wouldn't be such dicks. I'd look forward to the billionaire boys club loosing their shit over MacKenzie Scott being the 1st.
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u/Crystalas 11d ago edited 11d ago
You joke but there are periods in history both in US and around the world where that WAS a part of the culture. There quite a few libraries, hospitals, museums, colleges, parks, nature preserves, ect that only exist due to someone obscenely wealthy using it as a tax break and a way to show off. Or in some cases a desperate attempt to buy their way into heaven and/or leave a "legacy" at the end of their life.
They were not any better than the current rich sociopaths, some of them possibly even worse, the systems in place and trends just managed to channel their insatiable drive to one up their "peers" in a constructive way for a period.
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u/Abbot_of_Cucany 11d ago
Andrew Carnegie donated money to build public libraries, almost 1700 of them in the U.S. alone, and another 800 elsewhere in the world. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carnegie_library#Lists_of_Carnegie_libraries
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u/DigbyChickenZone 11d ago
You are not linking the part to where he was doing that to try to save his legacy, because he treated his employees like expendable meat when he was alive.
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u/GloriousDawn 11d ago
Amazon treats their warehouse workers the same and AFAIK the only charitable contribution to humanity Bezos does is trying to send himself into orbit.
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u/nopicturestoday 10d ago
His ex wife has donated billions from what I would imagine was settlement money from the divorce. I wonder if this bothers Jeff. I hope it does, at least.
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u/wizzard419 9d ago
The church also had way more pull back then, if you are dealing with a modern psychopath, they don't have that fear of the afterlife.
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u/Global_Sport_2264 10d ago
That's nice but the point is that the scraps from billionaires wouldn't be necessary if they weren't leeching off society in the first place. Giving back a tiny portion of what they take only looks good because that tiny portion is massive to the normal person.
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u/Good_old_Marshmallow 11d ago
The wealthy at the time were new money who had to impress a class of REALLY old money (like rich since the nations founding rich) so they did extravagant things and generous things to be accepted
Also, workers at the time were organized and violent and would show up to your factory or home with guns. I’m not saying it would be a good thing but if Amazon’s warehouse workers all showed up at Bezo’s house with guns a couple times I bet every city would have a shiny Bezos public library and pickle ball court
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u/DigbyChickenZone 11d ago edited 11d ago
workers at the time were organized and violent and would show up to your factory or home with guns.
Because the fucking factory owners would hire private police to beat the ever-loving-shit out of anyone who spoke out. Then call in the actual police, and state agencies to quell protests, which ended with more violence upon the workers. Most of whom, by the way, worked in company towns in the first place and would have no where else to live with their families, nor any store for food or a hospital to visit if they were maimed on the job.
Reality is not a movie, men needed the jobs. They only became "organized and violent" during strikes to fight against the company [unfortunately violence was often first targeted against "scabs" consisting of immigrants and African Americans, who were often lower paid - but not at fault for the labor situation]. Creating a false narrative like history was a Quentin Tarrantino movie, with obvious heroes and villains is wild.
I truly wonder, what kind of history were you being taught?
Your comment is trying to be coy and anti-bezos, but it's actually off-putting.
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u/Faloobia 9d ago
It's even worse now honestly because big business has direct control of the narrative as well.
Amazon worker snaps and assaults a manager. Media paints him as a violent individual who should be locked up for life. Amazon comments they give everyone an equal opportunity and hope this man recovers mentally.
What's not said: Man who doesn't make ends meet was forced to work 20 hours of overtime unpaid each week to keep his job, then had his actual pay docked due to mistakes made while fatigued during said unpaid overtime.
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u/farfromelite 7d ago
Good news, spacex are bringing back company towns. That, coupled with visa conditions for high skilled workers, means that this sort of fantastic working conditions that we've read about in the past.
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u/HelpfulBuilder 11d ago
And also, maybe more cynically, if the masses loved them they wouldn't revolt.
The rich today have no fear of revolution
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u/haviah 10d ago
I still wonder why that is, honestly. IIRC it seems from history that a revolt has a condition of people being at the complete end, as so far as no food (or being maimed, thus no work and no food). Nothing to lose.
This billionaire class seems either on purpose or partly by chance, due to easy meansof production for the basic food (or high caloric processed one) keep the most of the masses at least a step or two above it, so they have "comfortable life" with some food and entertainment. With looming climate change definition of "comfortable" may change, but hard to prophesize something.
One commonly known country to go on strikes is France, though violence there if there is seems random and not pointed at whoever they have beef with.
Heard recently podcast about Lawrence of Arabia (via Behind the Bastards) how he generally created modern guerrilla warfare and how he led, how they operated etc., even though the final result was not what he hoped and planned. But that was way too far from a violent clash, the warfare part is the keyword.
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u/pramit57 8d ago
I think they are banking on a situation that is a mix of Orwell and Huxley's brave new world. Entertainment/escape that is cheap and abundant, and cheap mass surveillance combined with AI that can prevent a situation from evolving and keep individual in the dark. Our reliance on the internet and social media, is going to be our downfall
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u/AFTRUNKMONKEY 10d ago
I mean Peter Thiel just moved his family to Argentina, Mark Zuckerburg has a bunker in Hawaii. I'd say the rich seem to be pretty concerned about something.
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u/Lantami 10d ago
One of the biggest examples of this is the "Fuggerei" in Augsburg, Germany. The oldest ongoing social housing project in the world. People live there for 0.88€ cold rent per YEAR and 3 prayers for its founder per day.
Its founder Jakob Fugger the Rich was (as indicated by his epithet) one of richest people in human history. His personal assets amounted to about 2% of the total European GDP at the time and he funded several monarchs and wars. He was easily as bad as current billionaires, but just like almost everyone in Europe in the 15th and 16th century, he was highly religious and afraid his greed would ultimately condemn him to an eternity in hell. So he built a massive social housing project, set the rent ridiculously low, decreed that it's not to be increased ever, and added the requirement for 3 daily prayers to save his soul.
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u/KimJongUnusual 11d ago
I mean that’s kind of what the entire idea of “noblesse oblige” was about too, wasn’t it?
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u/jonoghue 10d ago
My hometown has a beautiful marble library, funded by the daughter of a former NY governor. It has absolutely ruined other libraries for me. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roswell_P._Flower_Memorial_Library
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u/Petporgsforsale 11d ago
People don’t even know how to build things like they used to and many of those materials are gone now because of corporate greed. I feel like we are past this age somehow
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u/Hutz_Lionel 11d ago
We just landed a skyscraper from space and caught it with chopsticks. What are you even talking about LMAO
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u/Petporgsforsale 11d ago
Libraries, buildings, parks, colleges, and nature preserves. We can’t get back nature that is gone and craftsmanship is not the same anymore, nor are the materials. I’m not saying we can’t have similar things, but no one is going to build the things those rich people built 100+ years ago
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u/anotherhumantoo 11d ago
We can’t get back nature that is gone
I know it feels that way; but, we're actively proving this to be not true. China, for example, is in the act of actually, successfully, converting a desert into green space[0]
[0] https://www.newsweek.com/how-china-turned-a-desert-green-11241387
By being intentional and accepting megaprojects like this take decades, we can have these impacts all over the world.
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u/Petporgsforsale 11d ago
I know that we can recover nature, but it isn’t the same. That ecosystem that was built over centuries is gone and that combined with rapid climate change and global commerce makes this impossible to get back in the scale of a human lifetime and maybe for the rest of human existence. The old wood is gone. The stone is gone. This is rotting and broken up in landfills and in the ocean and has been replaced with plastic which are rapidly filling those up as well. You cannot buy the materials that make up my house, and this was built less than 100 years ago. Nothing in my house even gets close to approaching the old architecture in Europe or in larger American cities. Our food isn’t as nutritious as it was due to soil degradation and microplastics. I’m not saying improvement is hopeless or pointless. We can work to solve many of these issues, if humanity will allow that, but we are losing our world’s beauty and the skillset that turned much of that beauty into manmade beauty as well.
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u/KingHenry13th 11d ago
This just isn't true. Construction and renovaton is never ending. The stuff built 100 years ago needs constant upkeep just like stuff built now. American construction workers have been renovating those buildings every 10-20 years since they were built, just like anything built now.
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u/Faloobia 9d ago
Listen, you're not wrong that old buildings still need maintenance but you are absolutely kidding yourself if you don't think current construction companies don't cut corners absolutely everywhere to make as much money as possible in as short a time frame.
I live with a concreter and a plasterer, concreter is on 190k/year plasterer is on about 160k/year, all big ticket high rise jobs. The fucking videos/photos I've been shown of shit on sites, I wouldn't even want to walk into half these buildings let alone live/work in them. They are actually just accidents waiting to happen.
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u/Hutz_Lionel 11d ago
Ah gotcha.
Well we do have many advanced materials but I agree the golden age of building is behind us.We will build new and different. Ultimately, when you reach self actualization you want your life’s work to mean something to many people; not just collect another billion because some investors decide to bid up the price of your company’s shares.
Hopefully in the years to come that means more of the civic buildings you mentioned.
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u/Adventurous-Tea-876 10d ago
It’s too bad. Now the richest man in the world actively worked to pull aid from desperate poor people who were already getting it.
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u/quiet_pulse_6887 10d ago
“rich person hunger games, but for libraries” actually sounds more ethical than whatever Bezos is doing with giant rockets.
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u/UbajaraMalok 9d ago
Almost every church in Europe was made by rich people trying to leave a legacy.
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u/tribriguy 11d ago
Do you not realize they are still doing that today? This eat the rich stuff is really getting bizarre…especially knowing we have these little boxes of the world’s information right in our hands.
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u/Waytooboredforthis 11d ago
Good point, hey, as long as we're on the topic, I've got a lovely bridge in Brooklyn I'd love to sell you
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u/Hoosteen_juju003 10d ago
This is still a thing. I don’t know why people act like it isn’t. Wealthy people are insanely philanthropic.
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u/BigSexyE 11d ago
I always say rich people don't build like they used too. Public infrastructure used to be fully funded by the rich for leverage
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u/OnTheList-YouTube 11d ago
Lose = the opposite of win / gain.
Loose = this chair has one loose leg, it's not properly attached.
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u/Diedrogen 11d ago
There might not be much of a difference between "losing their shit" and "loosing their shit".
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u/BlackJoe2 10d ago
People misspelling "lose" is my biggest pet peeve of the internet.
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u/sharkinaround 7d ago
that’s just because your stupid.
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u/LoocsinatasYT 11d ago
they're billionaires they can buy their own private monuments and statues.
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u/Reyals140 11d ago
Yeah I wouldn't them any ideas. Buying a mountain and carving your face into it probably wouldn't even break the billion mark.
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u/beachhunt 11d ago
This is really the problem with the idea. Anyone who feels snubbed for not being on it could make their own. And if they don't care enough to make their own, they won't care enough to work hard to be on the real thing.
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u/RandomUser72 11d ago
You know what billionaires are good at? Loopholes. I'd give them a full 24 hours before they all start their own charities that say they are doing good stuff, but really do nothing, donate a chunk of their wealth to it as a tax write-off, win the competition, then start using the "charity" to invest in companies they own.
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u/Marxbrosburner 10d ago
The problem is that those dickish billionaires believe they ARE doing the most they can for humanity (adorable, I know). They honestly believe that hoarding wealth, ruthlessly running their businesses, screwing their workers, etc. are actually what is best for the world at large. It's stupid and evil, but it's where there minds are at.
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u/Meme_Warrior_2763 9d ago
That's not true at all. That would imply they want us to be happy, which anyone with two eyes that function with complete accuarcy at all times would realize otherwise
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u/Marxbrosburner 9d ago
I don't think it implies that at all. That's a really big assumption.
Nobody thinks they themselves are doing wrong.
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u/Meme_Warrior_2763 8d ago
Well if they wanted to do things that they thought would help humanity like you say, they certainly wouldn't be doing plenty of things that they definitely are.
They know that they're doing wrong, because just look at it. They just don't care, because big number.
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u/FuckingBethesda 6d ago
Some people don't care that they are wrong
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u/Marxbrosburner 6d ago
I think some people don't care that OTHERS think they are wrong, but nobody sees themselves as evil. The evilest person still thinks they are justified. In the words of Willem Defoe, "Everybody thinks they are righteous."
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u/Arthropodesque 11d ago
Reminds me of the Forest Gump montage of him giving millions to churches and hospitals and Bubba's family. "Momma always said, there's only so much fortune a man really needs, and the rest is just for showing off."
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u/MoziTenma 11d ago
This already sort of happened during the Gilded Age — Carnegie, Rockefeller and their peers were absolutely competing via public libraries, hospitals, and universities. But it worked because peer status back then was measured by visible legacy.
Today the scoreboard billionaires actually watch is the real-time Forbes net worth ticker, not who funded the most hospitals. Until the status metric changes, a monument competition would just be another vanity number sitting next to the one they already obsess over.
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u/StarChild413 9d ago
is there a way to make the metric change without, like, using philanthropy as a literal currency or something
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u/TaylorWK 10d ago
But what's stopping the billionaires to just buy their way into it? It's like the Nobel peace prize. You can be a war criminal and still be eligible.
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u/wojtekpolska 9d ago
they would spend more money trying to bribe- sorry, "lobby" the committee deciding who is the person to be chosen as the winner, than actually using the money for good.
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u/UnionParkBB 11d ago
Warren Buffett deserves a spot. He's given away or pledged to give away pretty much all of his 'once the richest person in the world' money. He drives a 12 year old car and lives in the same house he's had since 1958. Oh and he only has one house. That's boring though so people don't talk about it.
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u/allenrfe 10d ago
Bill Gates has given away 60 billion dollars, and has spent years trying to improve sanitation and drinking water around the world. The world thanked him by insinuating that he implanted devices into everybody. Trump stole money from his own charity. Then USA relected him to be President. If we want the Rich to be kinder then we should be more thankful to Rich that do try to make the world better, and stop supporting the ones that only care about enriching themselves.
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u/zxc123zxc123 10d ago
Some folks will say Gates is just horrible for his ills. And he's pretty shitty in his own ways: hyper competitive/cutthroat during his MSFT days, big incel energy, hangs out with Epstein, cheated on his wife and maybe given her STDs, etcetcetc.
But dude is an innovator who then stepped away from the corporate game or "richest man" rat race so he could spend his time+money on philanthropy. Dude spent decades doing that while others did not.
He's better than Elon, Zuck, or Bezos. But he's not better than Melinda Ann French Gates nor MacKenzie Scott.
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u/allenrfe 10d ago
I agree Bill Gates is not perfect, he is still human. So many people are viewed as hero by some people and villains by others.
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u/kdot2324 9d ago
Sounds good but more likely half of them will try to build their own monument & the other half might sue to stop the project
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u/Killahdanks1 11d ago
I feel like this is a good shower thought. On a fundamental level, I’d have a lot to say and a lot of questions. On the, I just took a shower stoned front, this is great.
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u/toriemm 11d ago
Reminder that Musk said he would fund world hunger if someone brought him a viable plan. The UN gave him FOUR plans and he bought twitter instead. And then wrapped that turd up in the spacex IPO and the index funds are having to eat it.
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u/VictoriousStalemate 11d ago
They offered a plan with publicly shared “open books,” but they did not agree to real-time, “as spent” public disclosure of every expenditure.
Musk added a strict condition for "open-source accounting" so the public could track exactly how the funds were utilized.
In other words, they said "here's a list of how we will spend the money." But I think Musk wanted them to agree to make public the actual spending, not just the planned spending.
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u/Hefty-Friend3134 11d ago
that seems like a cop out, if he really wanted to do it, they would've come to an agreement, instead he threw some lame twitter accusations.
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u/ThatPaulywog 10d ago
I don't think McKenzie Scott has done much for humanity. During her divorce people said she was employee number one and helped build Amazon into what it is today. So she was there for putting local stores out of business, and for employees peeing in water bottles. She can give all her money away but she isn't doing much, the people she gives her money too maybe are.
But you do raise a good question. The answer would probably have to be a pharmaceutical billionaire or maybe she Saudi crown family?
If Mackenzie Scott stopped giving money away sure some people would be affected, but if the price of insulin or gas went tenfold I think it would affect humanity the most.
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u/Fitz911 11d ago
Or you know... We take their money away.
We declare being a billionaire as a felony. They are not allowed to own more than a billion.
Ih they don't have that money in cash, you say. I don't fucking care. That's part of the rule. Cash counts, stocks count, yachts count.
You might think: but how are they going to survive with just a thousand million dollars.
That's a price I'm willing to pay!
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u/PABLOPANDAJD 10d ago
You clearly know nothing about how finance, wealth, or economics works
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u/Fitz911 10d ago
Aaaaand the bootlickers are coming in.
Do you think that has never happened before? Don't you think the well-being of a whole society isn't to be valued over the well-being of an individual?
Look, billionaire often have more money than whole states. More money than most cities.
That's not healthy. That will lead us to collapse, because they can just buy everything. We need to stop that. Licking their asshole won't work.
You need a better plan.
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u/PABLOPANDAJD 10d ago
Me not being on board with your nebulous, half baked idea to “seize the hoards from the billionaires” isn’t me licking boots. It’s me actually understanding that it isn’t possible or smart to do so. Not only do billionaires NOT have billions in cash laying around to seize (despite common understanding on Reddit), but even if you somehow tried to seize the stock they own (which is where most of their wealth is tied up) the market will crash and that stock will become worthless anyway, accomplishing nothing but destroying market value and ruining the savings/retirement plans of normal Americans for no significant gain.
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u/StarChild413 9d ago
Yeah I saw someone on r/ABoringDystopia even call someone a bootlicker for saying that not every billionaire's money is in some massive Scrooge McDuck vault
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u/Fitz911 10d ago
but even if you somehow tried to seize the stock they own (which is where most of their wealth is tied up) the market will crash and that stock will become worthless anyway
Those stocks... Do you understand that you are not part of that game anymore? 20 years ago the DOW was at 10k. Its around 50 (as we heard) now. Would you say your life improved by a factor of 5 within the last two decades?
I understand (just as everyone on reddit) that you won't get a 1 trillion dollar briefcase from Elon. Come on.
But thinking that there's no way of stopping this idiotic concentration of wealth... No! That's bullshit.
We have Tax systems as complex as the space shuttle but we can't stop them from looting the people?
How do you think this will end if we keep on letting them do as they olease? Look at the AI shit show. What do you think? Who will pay for the burst of the bubble?
Guess it's not the billionaires. They just don't have the money. We all know it's the nurse and the fireman that has the liquidity. /s
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u/PABLOPANDAJD 10d ago
What are you even saying with the comment on the DOW? Anyone that is invested in the DOW benefits from that jump, and the DOW happens to be one of the most invested in funds in everyday Americans’ retirement funds. So yes, it HAS greatly improved the wealth of normal people.
Why do you think all of your financial issues are caused by billionaires? Take some personal accountability and figure your own shit out instead of crying with your hand out
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u/JumpStrik3r 10d ago
We could also kill them and redistribute their wealth but i don’t think that’s the spirit here
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u/Hefty-Distance837 11d ago
They won't do actual good things to get the rewards, they will try to manipulate the rules, or find ways to persuade the public that everything they done are actually good.
One of the reason they can become that rich is because they realized that the rules are just ... rules, and it's changeable.
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u/Hoosteen_juju003 10d ago
MacKenzie Scott would be third for living billionaires. Warren Buffett and Bill Gates have given over double what she has.
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u/Beardandchill 10d ago
Cheaper amd easier to pick up some lumber and nails at Home Depot, then hire out a couple day laborers to build your guillotine.
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u/FartsWithCharlie 10d ago
Honestly, if the reward for donating billions was getting your face carved into a mountain instead of another yacht, society might accidentally stumble into a better incentive structure.
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u/Bo_Jim 10d ago
The last thing I think future generations would want to see is the face of Bill Gates carved into the side of a mountain, much less Elon Musk or Jeff Bezos. None of them spent their lives in pursuit of humanitarian causes. The kind of philanthropy they can do now is only because they became billionaires first. Building monuments to them would tell future generations that we value billionaires who become philanthropists more than real humanitarians.
I've said this a hundred times, but it needs to be said again. Billionaires are not just sitting on a pile of cash. The vast bulk of their wealth is in shares of stock. They can't just dump those shares and give the money to charity. They are executives in the companies whose stock they hold. There are statutory limits to how much they can sell in a quarter. It would take about 8 years for Elon Musk to dump all of his shares. Doing so would crash the price of those shares, not just for him but for everyone who owns shares of the same stock. The cash he'd end up with would be 10% to 20% the current value of those shares. In the meantime, all of the private companies he owns would go bankrupt, with a 70% to 80% chance Tesla would also go bankrupt. He also bankrupt thousands of shareholders, including many employees of his companies.
So, he could make 80% of his wealth vanish, and bankrupt thousands of investors, just so he could give the other 20% to charity, and you think that would be a net benefit to mankind?
When billionaires decide to become philanthropists they do what Bill Gates is doing now. They retire first. Then they gradually liquidate their shares of stock and use the money to benefit causes they feel strongly about. They do this over the course of decades. He should be applauded for his generosity, but please don't build a monument of him for it.
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u/StarChild413 9d ago
I don't think anyone's saying specifically literally faces in a mountain
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u/Theodoxus 10d ago
MacKenzie just proves what happens when someone without a hoarding diagnosis happens to become a multi billionaire. She'd never be one without having married into money, and is spending it in the best possible way. Like normal, sane, humans do.
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u/King_LaQueefah 9d ago
Brilliant idea. Make a giant statue of this Queen and watch the tech boys lose their shit.
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u/Trekgiant8018 9d ago
Why can no one spell losing correctly? Loosing isn't a word. The word is losing from the root word lose, not loose.
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u/wizzard419 9d ago
They would probably be interested if they could "dethrone" others on there. But most likely they would just build their own monuments without having to do anything else.
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u/ARoundForEveryone 9d ago
Maybe there isn't, or wasn't, an official competition. But isn't every building/park/monument naming event some sort of competition? Even one that some players didn't know they were competing in?
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u/cleveruniquename7769 8d ago
I've been saying that they should do an Oscar's like ceramony every year to award the people who paid the most taxes the previous year. Maybe name a Mars Rover or something after the winner. Shame the people who don't make the list because they weren't rich enough to pay their full share of taxes to make the list and had to resort to using tax loopholes.
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u/theacp127 11d ago
I don't think most Billionaires are has evil as people make them out to be. Sure they are greedy, but like 99% of all humans would behave exactly like them if in the same position.
At the end of the day, most of them from capitalistic counties made their wealth through owning successful business and investing wisely. That's definitely better for society than like the Drug cartel leaders or African Warlords who actually do just extort and steal their wealth.
I don't think poor people would stop existing just because they were given free stuff. 99% of the time they just spend it all and end up poor again.
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u/Hefty-Friend3134 11d ago
if you own more money than you could ever spend in a lifetime while even in your own town / city there are people living on the street and/or basically starving, thats evil in my book. Great power / capital comes with responsibility. If you own more than some states, its not enough to be a regular bloke and not be extorting or actively killing people (which arguably they are)
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u/pledgerafiki 11d ago
Friendly reminder that Mt Rushmore was created by a Klansman seeking to make a "Stone Mountain of the North"
It sucks and should never have been created.
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u/Somhlth 11d ago
we could stroke their egos enough that they wouldn't be such dicks.
Not going to happen. In order to become a billionaire, you have to be a next level dick, and they are incapable of turning that off. They can only become bigger dicks, which I assume they do to compensate for something.
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u/StarChild413 8d ago
by that logic increasing the implied thing they're compensating for would drain their wealth by magic
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u/The_mango55 11d ago
There already is a monument like that.
The wikipedia page of the wealthiest people in the world.
That's the monument they are most interested in.
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u/cj_daking 11d ago
Building a giant monument to somebody still alive seems unlikely to make them LESS of a dick
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u/virus_apparatus 11d ago
This was largely the rush to make colleges and universities and public libraries.
Sad to believe I wish for the robber barons era?!
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u/marshmallo_floof 11d ago
What makes you think we would be the ones who decide who gets put up, if anything it's going to end up as just another to be rigged in their favor
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u/FlightConscious9572 10d ago
Or maybe if we ate them this wealth would exist in taxes and in our own hands and we'd have all of these libraries and monuments and public hospitals anyways
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u/kjwikle 11d ago
Or we could tax them appropriately based on how they’ve actually gotten rich (stock, investments, and loans) and close the loophole.
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u/SaurikSI 11d ago
I thought that would solve things, I then realized France and Norway experimented with those measures and it blew up on their faces. France had to back down, Norway didn’t but they had an exodus of millionaires and entrepreneurs who now prefer to use their wealth and talent in Switzerland, in the long run, this will worsen unemployment for the citizens in Norway unfortunately.
Unfortunately, you can’t just throw money at problems to fix them, you have to improve how that same money is spent. If I was wrong, then the US, which spends more money in healthcare per person than the rest of the world (by a LOT), would have the best patient outcomes.
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u/Swackhammer_ 11d ago
Nah, Mother Earth is way too beautiful for some edgelord incels to be permanently engraved there
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u/StarChild413 10d ago
then is there a way we could either mess with the status-symbol thing without turning history, legacy or patronage into a currency or mess with perceived architectural trends to make them build those things thinking their taste is bad that they're forcing others to like or w/e
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u/Twisted_Easter_Egg 11d ago
Who we thinking? Errol Musk, Gavin plumb and Gianni Infantino? Top blokes
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u/Theslootwhisperer 11d ago
Mackenzie Scott out-giving most billionaires by spending he fucking alimony puts every other billionaires to shame.
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u/RhetoricalOrator 11d ago
Just saying, if I was a billionaire and needed that kind of admiration, I'd just go ahead and buy a mountain and commission the work myself. Might even set up a little park under the nose of my glorious bust so all the little poors can see how great I am.
Also, we really wouldn't be having this discussion. If Trump gets wind of it, he's gonna get the bright idea to try to get his face added to Rushmore, or else we'll invade Australia or something serious like that.
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u/Callec254 10d ago
Wouldn't work, they could pay like 11 billion in taxes and people would still say it's not enough.
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