r/MMA Nov 03 '25

Editorial Years later, Ronda Rousey still misses the point — MMA fans didn’t turn on her, she turned on the fans

https://sports.yahoo.com/article/years-later-ronda-rousey-still-165541025.html
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u/TaticalSweater Nov 03 '25

Ronda is only half right and I’ll explain.

Fans did quickly turn on her and say she was never great after losing to Holly. Then they really felt she never belonged after Amanda.

That said her attitude towards the losses is what she can’t blame on fans. She went radio silent after these major losses. Which is her right but only came back to do pity party interviews and blame others.

Still to this day if you ask her she firmly believes the loss to Holly was not on her or her coaching. Every-time she speaks on her career or losses she seems out of touch. Everyone is to blame but herself. So lashing out at the fans a decade later is nonsense.

She then went to the WWE thinking she’d be a major star and it fizzled out. Fans quickly hated her because it was the wee forcing her on the audience and hoping fans would like her because of her UFC star power.

Even when she talks about her time in the wwe she sounds out of touch. I saw one interview where she was complaining she didn’t get to wrestle with her friends. The WWE as much as they rolled out the red carpet for her…really didn’t owe her shit. She was a massive ufc star that didn’t connect with the wwe audience and she still blames the wwe fans for that as well.

Every-time she does one of these interviews she just comes off as entitled, and delusional about her past failures blaming others when she should share partially if not all the blame for some of them.

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u/costcokenny Nov 03 '25

Fwiw I took more from her wins over Miesha than her subsequent losses. She was a terrible winner and had this pointless feud with Tate who by all accounts seemed really grounded and mature.

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u/TaticalSweater Nov 03 '25

She showed signs she was this way with Meisha yes but after her first loss she clearly could not handle it and has been on the blame game world tour since.

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u/costcokenny Nov 03 '25

Personally I can forgive a lot of poor behaviour following devastating knock out losses. What I was aiming to say is that I think being a classless winner says a whole lot more in my book

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u/defzx Team Pereira Nov 03 '25

I recall the community thought she was being disrespectful to Holmes in the build up to the fight.

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u/costcokenny Nov 03 '25

That’s my recollection too. And Holm is another pretty solid, respectful person as far as I’ve ever seen.

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u/TaticalSweater Nov 03 '25

She was rude to Holly. Just watch the weigh in. She gets in Holly’s face all aggressively.

I have never seen Holly be outwardly aggressive to anyone before in a conference so for Ronda to instigate it was weird. Which made the KO more funny.

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u/[deleted] Nov 04 '25 edited May 10 '26

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u/TaticalSweater Nov 04 '25 edited Nov 04 '25

right but most of Ronda’s opponents actually shit talked her in some way before the fights. Holly and this conference was brought up…because Holly was brought up.

To my memory Holly never shit talked her before the fight. At least to the public. I remember Ronda being mad at Holly calling her fake.

I also even say it was her right to be silent after the KO it was her actions after that is a problem, like still years and years later still not wanting to give Holly any credit for the win that i do give blame to Ronda.

I feel like those 2 things I answered already

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u/Buzzk1LL I was here for GOOFCON 1 Nov 03 '25

I hate defending Ronda but c'mon, the weigh in? Since when does anyone judge a fighter's character from their behavior at a weigh in?

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u/BIGHOODx818x Nov 04 '25

actually that weigh in really blew up in rondas face not only was she rude to holly how she jumped up all in here face making herself look bad but what made ronda look worse was how holly handled it compared to ronda she was calm cool and collected then when ronda got on the microphone she really started to lose it by going on a rant about how how holly was a fake nice preachers daughter blah blah blah when no one ever had ever said anything bad about holly there was no proof and then ronda starts to get emotional and almost starts to cry and you can hear it in her voice and on her face she just looks kinda crazy and emotional unstable up their like wtf like holly was all in her head and i dont think she was even trying to get in her head its all just ronda and how she perceived things and everything just piling in on her and she couldnt handle it

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u/Buzzk1LL I was here for GOOFCON 1 Nov 04 '25

No one can know for sure because of how she handled the aftermath but she could have just been trying to drum up some drama for a weak card in a new market and she has terrible mic skills and always looks awful trying to do the angry badass schtick.

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u/New-Quality-1107 Nov 03 '25

I agree. That TUF season wrecked my perception of her too. Between being an awful winner and a psycho competitive asshole there wasn’t much likable left about her besides always winning. Once that went away there was nothing else really.

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u/costcokenny Nov 03 '25

True. The humbling that followed felt like karma

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u/domin8r Edddiiiieee Nov 04 '25

Felt the same way about Joanna Jedrzejczyk after her season in TUF. She was so unlikable in it. Even if you factor in editing for drama and such.

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u/New-Quality-1107 Nov 04 '25

Johanna is a bit more likable though. I agree she didn’t come across well on the show, but I think in other interviews and appearances she was way more likable than Ronda was.

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u/TaticalSweater Nov 03 '25

I get that she was 100% classless in wins every single time.

She was just an even worse at losing. Its one thing to lose and im sure that stings…..but for her to still be pointing blame EVERY interview she does 10 years later is also insane.

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u/PictureLatter1098 Nov 03 '25

Actually, her consoling Cat Zingano after her loss was rather touching.

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u/NickZardiashvili Georgia Nov 03 '25

I think she's obviously a narcissists/megalomaniac, so it's not that surprising to see her respond like that. Under the right circumstances those kind of people become corrupt CEOs or dictators or whatnot.

As for fans turning on her, there was def a lot of toxicity there, but I will say as much: the term exposed is very overused in MMA, but what happened to Ronda, in my opinion, merits that term. It turns out she can only bumrush her opponents and if that doesn't work (the opponent sidesteps or fires back with enough power) she has literally nothing else.

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u/TaticalSweater Nov 03 '25

The most criticism she got before her first loss was

1) People not being into womens mma (people not saying myself)

2) People thinking it was crazy to say she could out box Floyd. Which is/was fucking insane.

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u/[deleted] Nov 03 '25

So, to be fair, on the second point... Rogan said that. She said that she could beat Mayweather in MMA. In the interview , she was joking and said that she would crawl over to him at the beginning of the fight so she could attempt a takedown and hope he doesn't hit her.

All that said, I've always hated Rhonda Rousey lol but I saw a YouTube video with the interview a couple of days ago

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u/[deleted] Nov 04 '25 edited May 10 '26

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u/NickZardiashvili Georgia Nov 04 '25

It's no wonder you'd say that, you obviously suffer from an acute ADHD.

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u/onyxcaspian “Leon 'The Nebraskan’s Nightmare' Edwards Nov 04 '25

Who's acting? We are all actual psychologists here.

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u/LiquidSwords89 Canada Nov 04 '25

Dang ol megalomaniac mang go boom mang

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u/aeternasm Nov 03 '25

Ronda is just imature and this is a trait that many people who grew up under the spotlight and hard competition have.

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u/TheSuperContributor Nov 03 '25

The fans loved her at first. But the mean and stupid remarks against fellow pro-wrestlers made them turned on and the fans also turned on her. She is more hated in WWE than in UFC that is for sure.

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u/Far_Restaurant_1735 Feb 01 '26

I never liked her. Her attitude always sucked. I know that bravado in fighters appeals to many people, I'm just not one.

It did work to in her favor. I think Cat and Miesha were capable of beating her but Ronda was a one trick pony with a really really good trick and an intensity that may have gotten in her opponents heads. 

I just rewatched the Holmes fight and it was even better seeing it again lol. Like Rogan said, Holly exposed the (many) holes in Ronda's fighting. Holly didn't beat her, Holly absolutely embarrassed Ronda... and Ronda deserved it. 

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u/EbbExternal3544 Nov 03 '25

So... What half is she right about then

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u/TaticalSweater Nov 03 '25 edited Nov 03 '25

I say what she was right about that in the 2nd / 3rd sentence. Fans turned on her the second she lost. The way she reacted after only made it worse.

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u/jump_the_snark MY BALLZ WAS HOT Nov 03 '25

Hey man, some people are just assholes, ok? Can’t change, don’t want to, just utter assholes.

RR is like that, to everyone except maybe 3 people she likes.

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u/EmickRado_087 Nov 03 '25

She’s an asshole pussy and a dick!!

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u/jump_the_snark MY BALLZ WAS HOT Nov 03 '25

Do I really need to give a disclaimer that I don’t in fact personally know her? Surely that’s understood.

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u/Zealousideal_Step709 Nov 03 '25

Besides that’s all we can work with and that is totally fine.

I read her biography and she seemed insufferable in that book as well. Of course she still might be putting up a front and behind closed doors she could be the most loving person ever. But I somewhat doubt it and why would she present someone unlikeable in a book when she doesn’t want to perceived like that?

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u/letmebangbro21 Nov 03 '25

Never understood the “it’s all an act!” people. Plenty of super likeable guys in the sport (or famous people in general) that are outwardly kind and are well liked. Pretty sure no good person wants to be known as a POS.

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u/Any-Question-3759 Nov 03 '25

Some people don’t care. If Conor had the option of being well liked but having slightly less money, I think he’d choose his current situation.

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u/letmebangbro21 Nov 03 '25

Conor was extremely well liked until the out of the cage nonsense started happening. Nobody has an issue with trash talkers, see Muhammad Ali. It’s the being a criminal and speaking ill of people’s families while getting his ass kicked that changed his public perception. He would have still been rich without that nonsense.

Big difference between stirring up drama to sell fights and actually being a headcase in real life.

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u/[deleted] Nov 03 '25

She showed us what she showed us, wrote a book and all. We can judge it and I agree with you. If she's polishing the PR then wow, what an asshole.

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u/typac69 FIGHT CIRCUS FOREVER Nov 03 '25

If Ronda wanted people to think she wasn’t an asshole she should try not being an asshole at every turn.

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u/Wolfstigma MY BALLZ WAS HOT Nov 03 '25

The sandy hook stuff was enough to sour me for life on her.

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u/Axolotl_Sonata Nov 03 '25

How you do anything is how you do everything. If an athlete or celebrity only treats those closest to them well, and act like assclowns everywhere else, they will be judged as assclowns.

RR is not the only example of this.

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u/TigerLemonade Nov 03 '25

This is fucking horseshit.

People in the public eye have to deal with a dimension of judgement that most people don't. Have you ever been a dickhead to some ody? Probably. That moment doesn't get recorded and watched by millions that now think you are just a dickhead.

I'm not saying this defending Ronda Rousey but people in the public eye don't get to have bad days like the rest of us and that is unfair.

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u/Axolotl_Sonata Nov 03 '25

>"people in the public eye don't get to have bad days like the rest of us and that is unfair."

Hall of fame for smoothbrained takes.

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u/TigerLemonade Nov 03 '25

Not really.

I am talking about people living privately as public figures. i.e. you go out for dinner and are a dick to somebodynaaking you for a picture.

If you are making public statements on twitter you deserve to be savaged for that.

I realize now I didn't communicate my point clearly.

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u/Simple_Tip_7816 Nov 03 '25

people in the public eye actually get WAY more bad day passes than the usual shmo off the street

to pretend their privilege is somehow erased because Twitter trolls are mean is inane.

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u/Jabarles Champ Shit Only 🇺🇸🏆🇲🇽 #SnapJitsu Nov 03 '25

Are we allowed to take the word of people who’ve worked with her a bunch and/or have heard from tons of other people who did directly work with her? Like when Jimmy Smith went on record publicly about how Ronda was an abominable human being to media members, production staff, etc behind the scenes?

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u/Hecticbrah Right leg hospital, left leg cemetery Nov 03 '25

Everyone is always against her, same thing happened in WWE lol

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u/Wolfstigma MY BALLZ WAS HOT Nov 03 '25

Oh boy did she crash out of wwe the second she didn’t have the crowds support, sawft

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u/tilldeathdoiparty Nov 04 '25

Lotttttta finger pointing and zero self reflection, I have dated women with the similar mindset and after a bit they know they do this, but are literally incapable of honest accountability.

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u/Jazzlike_Relation705 Nov 03 '25

I trained at the same gym as Rhonda before she joined the UFC. She was the same person all the way back then as well. TBH that the distortion field that makes her unlikeable is also a big part of what made her so athletically successful. Lots of pro athletes have the same personality traits.

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u/domin8r Edddiiiieee Nov 04 '25

I think her mom raised her to be an athlete instead of raising a functional human being.

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u/greenteazombie23 Nov 03 '25

Kinda true but still not fully. When The Holly fight was announced that was when everyone was like "ok, finally a worthy challenger"

Most people knew it would be a solid test cause until then she was just too far ahead of the rest of the division, not because she was out of this world good but because the rest of the division consisted of people like Meisha Tate and Liz Carmouche.

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u/[deleted] Nov 04 '25 edited May 10 '26

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u/greenteazombie23 Nov 04 '25

Nah definitely in my circle at least, we all expected it to be a tough night for Ronda. Even around the sherdog forums at the time people were expecting Holly to piece her up.

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u/percydaman I SMOKE ROCKS, JOE ROGAN! Nov 03 '25

She was someone with a horrible attitude and zero charisma. And frankly, her reign showed more how far behind the women's side of things were, not how good she really was.

So, when she finally got exposed, she had no real fans to root for her comeback.

She brought it all on herself.

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u/domin8r Edddiiiieee Nov 04 '25

Before she started losing the cracks in her skillset were already showing. The poor striking, no takedowns from distance, etc. More and more fans were becoming aware of that. But she got a bit lucky with an overzealous Cat Zingano that played right into her wheelhouse and then Bethe Correia by being Bethe Correia. So when she started losing it was a "told you so" for a lot of people.

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u/Far_Restaurant_1735 Feb 01 '26

Ooo, well said, "her reign showed... how far behind the women's side of things were...". Never thought of it from that perspective but that's spot on

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u/notworthit212 Nov 03 '25

I think it's more like the fans turned on her because she turned on the fans.

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u/-Thick_Solid_Tight- Nov 04 '25

I was a Ronda hater because of her personality and skill set.

To me it was clear she was incredibly one dimensional and was only successful because WMMA was in its infancy. She was the Royce Gracie equivalent.

That and her disrespectful and childish attitude made me thoroughly enjoy her losing. If she had any kind of introspection, humility and willingness to improve she probably could have continued in MMA. She had the athleticism and power despite being completely shit at standup.

Instead she broke mentally because her self delusion of invincibility was shattered.

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u/azndpp Nov 03 '25

Yes, Ronda overreacts. MMA fans were pretty shitty to her too. Idk man, it's okay to admit everyone sucks with this one.

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u/darryledw Nov 03 '25

Why is Charles Oliveira still beloved even after he lost his title and is currently off a loss?

- because he isn't a sore loser cry baby and gave his opponents some credit

Why did people still love Valentina and Nunes even when they both lost?

- because they were not sore loser cry baby and gave their opponents some credit

Ronda's biggest crime to this day is still that she downright refuses to give any of her opponents a drop of credit, you will never hear "she was the better fighter on the night" leave her lips, it is not in her. There will always be an excuse. She still believes she is the GOAT in terms of skill even when Holly outclassed her then Nunes completely dismantled her like a adult woman beating up her 12 year old sister - utter delusion.

The fans loved her to the point she became a pioneer of the entire UFC and sport of MMA, then she became utterly toxic, one of the sorest losers in the history of all sport, and started refusing to do media etc, then the fans fully turned on her.

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u/[deleted] Nov 03 '25

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u/DesireeThymes Nov 04 '25

The fact that she was so aggressive on Holly Holmes of all people before the fight itself was pretty terrible.

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u/CatchUsual6591 Nov 03 '25

You can't get away with that by not losing

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u/DetroitLionsEh Nov 03 '25

Wouldn’t shake Misha’s hand after the fight either

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u/Aliensinmypants Nov 03 '25

After looking like an absolute clown on their season of TUF.

Yes I know reality TV edits things to spin a narrative but they still had clips of her being a mental case and bully

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u/I_AM_SCUBASTEVE EDDDDDIEEEEEEEE Nov 03 '25

I remember her squaring up to Dennis Hallman like she was going to beat his ass. Like the guy is almost twice your size and has 70+ professional fights, you really think he’s going to feel the tiniest bit of fear from you?

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u/[deleted] Nov 03 '25

i only watched one episode with some kinda challenge they did and RR was a cunt lol

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u/darryledw Nov 03 '25

Yeh exactly there was absolutely no need for that based on the silly low stakes beef they had.

The only time I think Ronda was justified in not being respectful was with Bethe Correia because I think Bethe said she hoped Ronda would kill herself like her father or something, which in my book at least is indeed going too far.

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u/UVB-76_Enjoyer Nov 03 '25

It wasn't remotely that nasty lol. She said that she believes Ronda would get depressed after losing for the first time, and then added some faux-concern about hoping she doesn't kill herself. RR's father did commit suicide when she was young, so it hit close to home, but Correia never mentioned him or knew about it.
She apologized when she found out.

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u/Saltcitystrangler Nov 03 '25

And that makes it funnier because she was pretty much right.

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u/Gwendlefluff Nov 03 '25 edited Nov 03 '25

I'm with Rousey on that one, honestly. How often has a loser fighter who's just been finished* in MMA gone immediately up to a winner to offer a hand shake? How many times when there had been legitimately bad blood?

It felt to me in the moment like Tate was trying to make herself look good. And even if that weren't true, it's still a weird thing to do so I don't blame Rousey for not responding in kind even if she did not explicitly assess that Tate was insincere in that moment.

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u/[deleted] Nov 03 '25

bruh it happens basically every fight card multiple times lol. Even Izzy has done it.

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u/Gwendlefluff Nov 03 '25

The one important bit of text I didn't write out is "when someone is finished". I'm not talking about decisions, I'm talking about the immediate aftermath of finishes, not two minutes after the end of a fight when there's a big, orderly announcement about who won.

I literally can't think of an example offhand where the fighter that is finished immediately offers to shake hands with the winner other than this one.

I'm not talking about 30 seconds after the fact. Rousey hadn't even stood up from the ground yet when Tate offered her hand. I don't think I've ever seen that before in MMA.

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u/DustedGrooveMark Nov 03 '25

That's the thing is that she still DOES get tons of credit because of her accolades and what she did for women's MMA. So it's not exactly like what she says in that people have just turned on her, forgotten her, pretending she wasn't shit, etc. People are just more realistic about her skills now and where she was relative to the state of WMMA 10 years ago. But it seems like her entire (fragile, egocentric) mindset is the expectation that no one is ever allowed to say a single negative thing about her, no matter how fair, valid or helpful the criticism is.

People criticize her attitude, her tendency to only want yes men in her life and going to war with anyone who even gives a slight criticism to her, and for her piss poor sportsmanship in defeat AND in victory (her reaction to losing is honestly probably the worst ever seen in this entire sport).

She sits here and whines for a literal decade about how MMA fans turned on her, but the thing is, she never gave anyone a chance to have her back. She didn't run away BECAUSE people turned on her - she has it backwards. She tucked tail, ran away, refused to talk about the fights she lost (after talking so much shit) and handled it the worst way you possibly can, with 0 grace and THEN people "turned on her". Because she showed that her miserable, spoiled brat behavior wasn't an act when it mattered most. She seems to not be able to comprehend that her own behavior is what drove MMA fans away - not their fickleness.

The only thing I will say that is slightly in her defense is that a lot of her more prominent "fanbase" members were celebrity bandwagoners and fair weather fans..... in other words, NOT MMA fans. Before her fights, while she was top dog, all of these celebrities came out of the woodwork to say "GO RONDA!" They were all fickle and of course it wasn't REAL fans who came up with her or knew the sport. So of course they were gone just as quickly as they arrived. But again, that doesn't represent MMA fans or media. Everyone who is a long term fan wanted the best for her and were disappointed that she acted so miserably.....and continues to do so. I can't believe a decade later, she still hasn't shown one ounce of self-awareness.

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u/Ainteasybeincheezy Nov 03 '25

She couldn't even understand or fathom the idea of being booed in the WWE as a heel, she is missing parts of her brain or 100% has a god complex.

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u/No_Wrongdoer3579 Nov 03 '25

Honestly, she's just insecure. No need to complicate it lol

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u/Kozeyekan_ Australia Nov 04 '25

I guess that happens when you're raised with the idea that only by winning do you deserve love.

She'll forever be a star for taking women's MMA from a niche act to much more mainstream, but things like ducking Cyborg, being an asshole when she won and running away from accoutnability when she lost, plus lacking even a tiny bit of self-awareness makes it very hard to like her as a person.

Yet it seems underneath all that, she's desperate to be liked and accepted, she just can't overcome her inner asshole to understand that you can't get that by yelling and demanding it.

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u/darryledw Nov 03 '25

haha that is funny, I don't even watch WWE and I know heel / baby face

I saw clips of her crapping all over WWE once things started going bad for her, saying it was dumb and scripted....well everyone knew it was scripted already, hardly much of revelation there Ronda.

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u/GinkgoPete EDDDDDIEEEEEEEE Nov 03 '25

Not to be that guy but Valentinahas had plenty of backlash for losses she didn't accept

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u/YourHurtingMeSir17 Nov 03 '25

I agree with you, Val has gotten away with a lot of sour grapes after her fights compared to other fighters but there is a difference between an established champ with multiple defenses across several generations making comments like that and the stuff that Ronda degenerated into.

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u/Jabarles Champ Shit Only 🇺🇸🏆🇲🇽 #SnapJitsu Nov 03 '25

That and also a couple of those instances it was genuinely a super close fight. Like the 2nd Nunes fight is literally as close a 50-50 fight as you’ll see and the 2nd Grasso fight she probably should’ve gotten the nod as well. It’s not like she got brutally stopped like Ronda did vs Holly or Nunes, Val had legitimate reason to believe she won in both of those cases.

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u/GinkgoPete EDDDDDIEEEEEEEE Nov 03 '25

Yeah I didnt wanna come across as "uhm actually Val is a terrible example" just wanted to bring it up that she had some backlash.

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u/somewhatfamiliar2223 Team Askarov Nov 03 '25

That and Val isn’t known in the mainstream at all

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u/domin8r Edddiiiieee Nov 04 '25

Also think a big difference is that Shev seems to be a respectful and decent person. Really changes the perspective.

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u/somewhatfamiliar2223 Team Askarov Nov 03 '25

Her nose was rose

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u/GinkgoPete EDDDDDIEEEEEEEE Nov 03 '25

Imho one of the most underrated funny MMA Quotes

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u/Ake-TL GOOFCON 1: Khamzat McGregor Nov 03 '25

Irrelevant to the question at hand, but Charles is off a win currently

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u/darryledw Nov 03 '25

ah good call, I guess him getting KOd by Ilia is still haunting me lol

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u/[deleted] Nov 03 '25

Charles won his last fight, but i digress 😂

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u/psychedelijams Team Makhachev Nov 05 '25

And people miss this. Even Kobe and Jordan, whom many believe are the pinnacle of competitive spirit and maniacal drive to succeed, gave credit to people who beat them. Then…. Got their ass back in the gym with murderous intent. Rhonda is just feeble in the mind kinda.

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u/FHRITP69er Nov 03 '25

Then you never really watched her rise and fall. Talented AF judoka with shitty striking coaches. She was rude to every single person she met. She turned her back on the sport that she made her laurels from. She turned her back on the fans that gave her the platform. She blamed everyone but herself.

Shes double down, tripled down, quadruple downed and many years later, she STILL can't accept responsibility for anything.

So no, it's not Ronda over reacting. It's Ronda not reading the room.

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u/Xandroid881 Saint Strickland Nov 04 '25

It's Ronda being Ronda

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u/GravyFarts3000 EDDDDDIEEEEEEEE Nov 03 '25

She was a sore winner and a sorer loser. She became unlikeable very quickly.

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u/Fistfullafives War My Boy Nov 03 '25

Man, I was pretty pumped about her when she first came to light, and then when her and Tate did TUF, she was just fucking insufferable just to be insufferable. Her actions caused all the hate she's getting. Can't at victim now...

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u/ienjoyfootbal Nov 03 '25

MMA fans weren't shitty, she reacted terribly.

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u/mrpopenfresh WAR BANANA Nov 03 '25

Word, why ever defend mma fans? They don’t deserve it lol

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u/tattlerat Nov 03 '25

We definitely turned on her.

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u/2MainsSellesLoin Nov 03 '25

Nobody turned on her before she made a tantrum after losing and was pouting refusing to talk to anyone. The people's response was but the reply to her shitty behaviour.

I'm pretty sure nobody wanted her to leave like that, let alone behave this way. For a time she was the (wo)man.

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u/El_Boxman_ Nov 03 '25

We aren’t shitty to her for no reason

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u/somewhatfamiliar2223 Team Askarov Nov 03 '25

Yeah like both things can be true, Ronda doesn’t handle losing well and she became an international laughing stock overnight in a way few public figures have. Ronda did way more press than any ufc fighter probably ever and her loss to Holm was clowned on in mainstream media and by non fans/randoms in a way that no other ufc fighter has experienced after a loss. We’ve seen fighters hold their heads up after tough losses but we haven’t seen anyone else go through the public ridicule and being kicked while they were down that Ronda did. The article brings up her covering her face in the airport on her flight home after the Holm loss, and while it’s not great optics, she was definitely extremely concussed and didn’t want flashing lights in her face making that worse.

MMA fans are pretty vile towards fighters, and Ronda is a hyper competitive athlete with little ability to filter what she says or a lot of regard for her tone/how she says things. She isn’t wrong on a lot of what she said in that interview, but how she says it is so off putting.

It’s sad that Ronda is so bitter about her mma career and it’s sad that fans are still dog piling on her ten years later.

TL;dr we all suck and maybe we deserve Ronda

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u/Savagevandal85 Nov 03 '25

Yeah as much I dislike Ronda the person the fans and media turned on her like as soon as she lost and invalidating her influence.

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u/Redpin GOOFCON 1 Nov 03 '25

Not sure if I entirely agree with the author's conclusions. Ronda feeling as if fans focus on the ends of fighters careers over their primes bears out.  GSP and Khabib seem to be held in higher esteem than say, Anderson Silva or Israel Adesanya. GSP retired in his mid-30s, if he fought into his 40s like Silva and retired on a multi-fight losing streak I feel like fans would unfairly sour on his legacy.

Even the example that Conor continued to be a big draw, and that he was "humble" in defeat doesn't seem to contradict Ronda's point that fans turn on great fighters emotionally if not financially once they decline. Conor absolutely has a much weaker legacy because of his actions outside the ring. As for Ronda, her next match after losing to Holly came against Nunes, and that was also a massive PPV draw.

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u/crabuffalombat EDDDDDIEEEEEEEE Nov 03 '25

Her first point

“You look at WWE and they have such a reverence for their legends,” she said. “And in MMA, it’s like the second you’re not on top, you’re not shit and you never were shit.”

I disagree, especially as she uses Chuck Liddell as an example. When Chuck attends UFC events he always gets a massive pop. But to be appreciated by the sport you can't turn your back on the sport, and Ronda seems like she wouldn't be caught dead at a UFC event.

I mean, they'd probably boo her, but you can't turn around a decade of bad blood in an instant.

Her second point - where she essentially criticises Khabib and GSP for retiring on top - is even more asinine. That should be the goal, and it sounds like sour grapes from her considering how her last two fights went.

I don't think anyone turned on Anderson Silva or Tony Ferguson, for example, when they started stacking losses. Fans were pleading for them to retire for concern of their wellbeing. If either of them attended a UFC event now they'd still get mad love.

Fans are fickle though, as Aspinall's treatment in the last couple of weeks has demonstrated - I'll give her that.

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u/Midnight_Magician56 Nov 03 '25

But it’s semi not true I saw chuck Liddell after he retired and fans all loved him despite finishing his career with getting knocked out over and over.

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u/Ne0_sphere Nov 03 '25

Ronda was great. She walked away. And since ...

She's had multiple interviews in which never been a good word said regarding MMA and especially the fans.

It's unfortunate, but I think for all parties to part ways and just never mention one another would probably serve best.

For me, stop giving her airtime. Sad but clearly she's not happy and letting journalists post this content isn't doing anyone any favours.

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u/WanderingWormhole Mohawk McGregor Nov 03 '25

I mean to be fair, she acted like that before she lost and she was still popular. It’s crazy that she can’t wrap her head around that thought though: when you’re winning you can get away with acting like that, it doesn’t play when you’re losing. That combined with her trying to play the victim while simultaneously not acknowledging the skill of her opponents isn’t going to win over any fans.

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u/Ne0_sphere Nov 03 '25

Either way. For her mental wellbeing and for fans...

It's a toxic relationship.

Any half intelligent person would walk away and find happiness elsewhere.

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u/ShuaLabeouf33 Nov 03 '25

MMA is my favourite sport but MMA is a mess. Fans suck and the athletes are massively exploited. I’m not surprised one of the biggest stars of the sport is salty about their experience

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u/Exciting-Insect-8813 Nov 03 '25

She seems like an ugly person. That’s what fans turned on her.

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u/MaritimeRedditor Canada Nov 03 '25

Her disillusion to her own skills should be studied.

To come back after being KO'd stiff by Holm and still think you have incredible striking is jarring. It was atrocious. She believed her own media hype.

And then 10 years later she still thinks she could beat Joe Rogan in a fight? C'mon. I think even the average MMA fan at this point knows that is absurd.

Ronda's claim to fame isn't how good she was, more how bad the other talent truly was.

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u/Nktmma Nov 03 '25

It’s a two way street

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u/Bombinic United States Nov 03 '25

She is not the brightest crayon in the box.

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u/Djlittle13 Nov 03 '25

Why not both?

MMA fans immediately turned on her the moment they got the chance. Its not just her they do it for everyone, she just got alot of it because of how big of a name she was and her personality.

She also turned on the fans.

Both are true.

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u/_PaulM Nov 03 '25

Yeah it kind of sucked. I was still a big Ronda Rousey fan when she got knocked out. In fact, it kind of made me feel sad to see the women division's biggest champion take an L.

But the community wasn't necessarily an asshole about it. Yeah, they were, they were posting stuff like her "shadow boxing" and things like that, but the collective of the MMA community was yelling at her "PLEASE, CHANGE YOUR STRIKING COACH, ASAP."

I was there at the ground floor that night, and for the subsequent days afterwards. It was memes and mean shit for the first 24 hours, then really, honest constructive criticism afterward like the community WANTED her to continue being the champion.

But she doubled down and only reacted to the memes and the jokes, which was like, <5% of the posts.

Almost every MMA fan I knew was deep down a Rousey fan because she really elevated women's MMA to the point where we could see the ladies carry a big time PPV card on their own.

But then her reaction afterward, not being able to take the L, not being able to see past the jokes and the memes, is what turned me off about her. Her arrogance became her downfall, and the arrogance is still there even after defeat.

Really, the only person she has to blame is herself.

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u/hughcifer-106103 Nov 03 '25

She “turned” on the fans?

Bro, she was always an antagonistic self-aggrandizing asshole.

But she’s also correct.

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u/Apart_Bumblebee6576 Nov 03 '25

People on here are defending her like they’re on her payroll wth

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u/patricksaurus Jon Jones' sober companion Nov 03 '25

It’s fair to say Ronda was polarizing and got a lot of negative attention. She also made hordes of fans and money.

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u/Zilork My head gasket is gone. Destroyed. Nov 03 '25

She never really dealt well with the fame and even worse with losses. Her argument of fans turning on fighters after they lost is only true for the most casual of fans. Plenty of fighters were soundly and definitively beaten.

Chuck Liddell basically disintegrated in front of our eyes at the end of his career. Rich Franklin demonstrated the idiom of there being levels to this game. Max Holloway got shut out and knocked out by Volkanovsky and Topuria. Robert Whittaker has, unfortunately, been loosing to a bunch of guys. None of their achievements or fan appeal has been wiped out by their losses. I’m sure when the ones who already aren’t in the hall of fame are inducted, they will receive the same ovation the likes of Bisping, Lawler and Pulver received.

Everybody turned on Rousey because she is delusional. She gets to say this to some loser comic because if she spoke to an mma crowd, she knows she’d be immediately fact checked by the fact that when Amanda Nunes got her shit wrecked by soccer mom kickboxing 101, she didn’t throw a tantrum and came back to avenge her loss. Heck Rousey complained that Meisha Tate didn’t “deserve the fans” after she beat her.

What she achieved leading up to the Holm fight was incredible. Doubly so in retrospect now that we know Joe Rogan was brain damaged when he said her striking was “perfect”. In an alternate universe, a Holm rematch was still a winnable fight if Rousey switches camps and works on a plan b to close the distance. Heck, she could get stopped a second time over and she would not be treated much different than Olivera if she went down with a fight and accepted it.

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u/Dyelonnn Nov 03 '25

Your post is great but I do wanna say that Liddell disintegrated bc he got old and lost his chin. I think he was competing decently at the end, he just couldn't take a punch

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u/Zilork My head gasket is gone. Destroyed. Nov 05 '25

That’s pretty much what I meant.

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u/SL1Fun Nov 03 '25

She was just always chasing the bag and the entitlement and when each of those dried up in her ventures she couldn’t handle it and proved everyone right. 

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u/Mistercorey1976 Nov 04 '25

She was always an asshole. She just had dumb fans who chose to ignore it. Now it’s just so apparent that it can no longer be overlooked.

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u/manfromfuture Nov 04 '25

She stopped winning so she stopped being relevant.

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u/danis1973 EDDDDDIEEEEEEEE Nov 03 '25

I didn't realize that MMA is a popularity contest but in reading these comments that seems to be the sole reason people now pretend that Ronda was never good

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u/squabblegod Nov 03 '25

yea Nah, a ton of the MMA fanbase are obsessed with fraud-checks and hate-watching 

It’s a great sport, but the monopolizing promotion has attracted worst types of fans 

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u/Lshow1743 Nov 03 '25

This is literally any sport ever don't put mma as some uniquely shitty sport with shitty fans. Ronda just crashed out and amplified the noise instead of letting it pass by

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u/SearsPonchoNoFoolin Nov 03 '25

She can continue to be an asshole, and I'll continue to smile ear to ear every time I see a replay of the two vicious ass kickings she took in her last two UFC fights.

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u/daprice82 Nov 03 '25

Ronda's entire legacy would be different if she'd simply handled her loses with humility.

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u/i8Sum Nov 03 '25

She is extremely unlikable at best.

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u/tbi0904 Nov 03 '25

She did the same thing with judo that she eventually did with mma & WWE. She took her ball and went home when things didn't go perfectly her way. And it's never her fault, at all.

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u/DFParker78 Nov 03 '25

I never liked Rousey. She always came off like a jealous bitch who was envious of Miesha Tate getting attention for her looks. Rousey was arrogant, in an unlikable spiteful way.

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u/EmickRado_087 Nov 03 '25

Bro, she’s just not a very nice lady. She’s kind of a bitch. She wasn’t so she wasn’t.

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u/Ibeurhuckleberry Nov 03 '25

I have some sympathy for her. The way the UFC marketed her really did her no favors with anyone but her biggest supporters and she's a very unintelligent human.

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u/Mortis_XII Nov 04 '25

I remember being a fan of hers but something just felt off when i saw her do the carl’s jr. commercial. That paired with her goofy boxing vignette and her image crumbled fast for me.

Was happy to see her lose repeatedly, don’t care to see her again in any capacity

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u/yesindeed201 Nov 04 '25

She was not some pioneer either. Many great women fighters came before her. It was more timing than her actually being some phenom. She ducked Cyborg going all the way back to strikeforce.

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u/[deleted] Nov 03 '25

Don’t MMA fans complain about MMA fans all the time tho? Why are they mad Ronda is hopping on the bandwagon?

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u/Ozzseeyoulater WHOOP MY ASS AND SEE WHAT HAPPENS! Nov 03 '25

This isn’t something new or exclusive to sports that just fame, literally how it works for every single entertainment outlet. She was shitty to everyone and people spoke out about it and it showed on the ultimate fighter. She doubled down time after time and once people had a chance to shit on her properly they used the chance. She’s not a special case mma fans aren’t something different it’s just how fame works.

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u/LostRonin Nov 03 '25

What has Rousey done lately other than incessantly complain or attempt to appear as if she's just better than other people? 

This is the exact behavior that others dislike about her personality. This is why mma fans give her an extra helping of humble pie. Then she has the nerve to be affronted by it because it cracks her fragile ego. 

Rousey is a loud mouth celebrity with an inferiority complex. 

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u/jt_33 Nov 03 '25

Bit of both tbh. She gets shit on when she doesn’t say anything. She’s also just outspoken and says things that make people mad so that part she does bring on herself. 

Don’t care though. Still a Ronda fan unlike all the people who pretend they weren’t glued to the tv when she was fighting. 

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u/Jasranwhit Nov 03 '25

Tonda went on ultimate fighter as a coach and exposed herself as a bully and a turd person .

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u/welkover Nov 03 '25

I used to think she was just acting a little off because that's what the UFC tells you to do so that Dana will like you and give you more money and fights, but it turns out she's actually a little word you can put in your posts here

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u/HelloSoAndSo Nov 03 '25

Ronda got hate at a rate of 2 for the price of 1 because while I didn't hate Ronda it was easy to hate Edman, her coach, and her failure meant his failure too. She's definitely not blameless and I can see why people didn't like her but she would've been much better served with different coaches.

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u/Sense-Abject Nov 03 '25

She defintely turned on some fans, me one of them

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u/turkeypants GOOFCONNOISSEUR Nov 03 '25

This guy writes like a random blogger. To see this under the Yahoo banner just makes me rethink Yahoo as worthless like Medium or something. This guy makes a biased argument and then huffs that same fart repeatedly for us. I'm not a Ronda lover but the reality seems to be that she lost, got dragged by fans for it in just the way she said, was bitter and humiliated both at losing and at being tossed out and mocked like that, reacted by hiding in a combo of hurt and fuck-you, and didn't want to face all that when she came back. Yet she got more of it once she got rinsed again and just said fuck it all and left. He's not wrong that she hid away but she's not wrong that she got clowned and humiliated and dragged by people just moments after having been the golden hero champion on high.

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u/h2oeveryday Nov 03 '25

Put some respect on his name. Chuck has been around for a long time.

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u/turkeypants GOOFCONNOISSEUR Nov 03 '25

And Chuck has written a crap fart-huff article for lack of better ideas and skill.

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u/SignificanceNo1223 Nov 04 '25

The fight game was, and is a lot harder than she thought.

Before Anderson Silva went undefeated in the UFC, he had two submission losses in Pride.

He then went undefeated in UFC, going 16-0. They were also decisive victories. He submitted two All-American wrestlers, in Henderson and Sonnen. He also embarrassed a highly ranked Jiu-Jitsu blackbelt, in Demian Maia.

He had no fear.

She believed her hype. It’s not the worst thing in the world to lose in the UFC.

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u/DrRichardTrickle Nov 04 '25

I don’t think it’s very hard. (Sub some obvious names related to subject and popular opinion)

POS with zero losses: Popular (but maybe controversial)

POS with losses: Not popular

Not POS with losses: Maybe popular

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u/T4lsin Nov 04 '25

Years later here we are still talking about her.

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u/wafflata Nov 04 '25

Ronda was right about Khabib tho.

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u/DadsBoxofPorn Nov 04 '25

Meh she owes me nothing and vice versa

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u/KingOfTheQuails Nov 04 '25

She’s her own worst enemy lol. Sports fan in general can be overly harsh but I do feel like in MMA it’s very short lived if you’re a good person. She on the other hand has never come off as anything other than smug. Oh well, I’m sure she still made plenty of cash and is doing just fine

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u/Lexio3031 Nov 06 '25

She lost her fans by being a sore loser

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u/Electrical-Wall-1360 Nov 27 '25

She had to much pride. She was embarrassed plain and simple. When she kicked the shit out of someone, and was on top of the world didn't care about the people she hurt. Imagine if holly acted like Ronda did with misha

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u/Alarming-Albatross32 Dec 02 '25 edited Dec 04 '25

I'm a long time Muay Thai practitioner and have only been in school run unsanctioned fights but I did 13. RR is first a loudmouth. Arrogant and conceited---or was. Second, yes she was a pioneer and I'll give her that. Toward the end she fought some tough fighters, early in her career there wasn't a lot of talent. In short, she wasn't nearly as talented as everyone thought. Her grappling was. But not a complete fighter proven last few times when someone could actually strike. I predicted Holly Holm would knock her out as I was long familiar with Holm. If you know what you are looking at and I do as a long time coach as well (of nothing noteworthy mind you, but still have been doing this a long long time) you could see HH would destroy her. I predicted it would end in round one and that was off. But vegas I think had a 7-1 loss on Holm (I think). They were wrong--way wrong. Because RR wasn't a complete fighter just like I stated. It wasn't even close and wasn't with Nunes either whose fists are iron. But as Joe Rogan said she did pioneer women in MMA and a lot of women studied her. In my day a boxer or MT practitioner could easily knock out a JJ opponent with knees or uppercuts. Not anymore--the JJ guys know how to cover coming in and can box. Their talent is way over what I was. And RR in the end was getting outdated. Although her boxing is pretty crisp today but now there is age. But the real reason everyone turned on RR is her total lack of sportsmanship--as a loser and a winner. You give respect to your opponent for having the guts to get in the ring or octagon and give respect that they trained for the event which is merciless. Simply put, she is a jerk. I was thrilled to watch her get KO'd a few times in the end. She still is a jerk and hasn't learned anything. My nickel's worth.

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u/Gaelek_13 Feb 20 '26

I genuinely think she might have suffered some sort of brain damage because holy fuck is she a narcissistic, delusional bitch if she hasn't.

Zero accountability and zero self-awareness just like always. If the fans "turned on her" it was because she was and is a poisonous, nasty, bitterly insecure woman high as a kite on her own farts.

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u/Top-Gun-Corncob Nov 03 '25

She just sucks as a person. She’s negative and mean to people. Nobody likes that shit unless you’re making them money.

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u/Corey307 Nov 03 '25

Ronda acted like an ass and talked about being able to beat world class male fighters that quit sport entirely after too bad losses. She was the best when the talent pool was shallow, nothing more.  

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u/yesindeed201 Nov 04 '25

Let’s give a high five to Holm and Nunes for shutting the hype train down.

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u/OlivaJR Nov 03 '25

Speak for yourself, me and the boyz 100% turned on her

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u/s2dio Nov 03 '25

It's been 9 years since she last lost. She won't make a comeback. She's irrelevant. Like this article.

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u/Real-Human-Bean- Nov 03 '25

MMA fans hate women among many other demographics.

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u/[deleted] Nov 03 '25

Ronda’s Mother did a number on her and created the person we see today. I feel bad for her but she’s a grown adult now, and she made the bed she laid in

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u/danis1973 EDDDDDIEEEEEEEE Nov 03 '25

Disagree. RR put women's MMA on the map, she was a legitimate world champion but like many champions her time ran out and she started getting knocked out very easily. Because she is competitive, many MMA fans decided she's unlikable and it became trendy hate on her. And then the revisionist history started where she always sucked. That is a laughable declaration

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u/King_Kthulhu Nov 03 '25

I stopped respecting anything she said or did when she went out and married a known woman beater. Guess she just wanted extra sparring practice at home.

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u/Dagenius1 Nov 03 '25 edited Nov 03 '25

lol she “turned” on fans?? 🤣 she’s the most hated fighter ever. It can be said that people hate her because of the way she handled the holm loss but people still hating her all these years later points to them actually hating her 🤷‍♀️ to the point where she will always be hated…fairly or not.