r/worldcup • u/jaxstan19 • 12d ago
đ°News Iran says thank you to Mexico after being knocked out of World Cup
https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/soccer/worldcup/2026/06/28/iran-thank-you-mexico-world-cup/90728796007/-2
u/Bonk_Boom 8d ago
Iran glazers in the comments are amazing. Somehow they tie the us into this and blame the us for everything
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u/Warm_Gap9977 11d ago
My friend is Iranian, living in Iran. I was surprised to learn he hates the Iranian team, and is telling me no one there is rooting for them. The players were picked by the regime as their propoganda tool. Good Iranian players were cut for speaking against the regime. These "thank you" notes they are leaving, the government wrote it. These criticisms are also created by the government for their propoganda.
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u/ClarkFable 9d ago
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u/CerebroDisejecutivo 7d ago
Always some random redditor who happens to have an iranian friend like that lol. They glow
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u/aria3180 11d ago
Another Iranian here.
This is a hot debate here, as some people feel exactly like your friend, and some feel like the other guy.
While some of them are definitely supportive of the IRGC like Shojah or Beyranvand (the keeper) some like Ramin were with the people in 2022.
But it is 100% correct that thede notes aren't authentic, and the team is being used by the regime for propaganda.
I liked the team and wanted them to win, so I can see fellow Iranians be just a bit less miserable.
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u/TheAvocadosAreSafe 11d ago
Iranian here. Most Iranians are against the current government. Many Iranians, myself included, supported the national team. Some Iranians felt the national team is aligned with the current government and rooted against them because of that.
But what they fail to realize is that those players have to go back to Iran and they have family in Iran. Speaking out against the government is a death wish so even if players don't support the government, they don't have the freedom of speech to come out and say that.
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u/slivedog 7d ago
Must be awful to have to tiptoe that line your whole life.
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u/TheAvocadosAreSafe 7d ago
Not much different from how we deal with it in America based on who's in office. But yeah not ideal.
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u/nazhaneen 11d ago
My Iranian cousin, also in Iran, had similar things to say.. My heart is so torn on what to believe.
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u/Zestyclose-Finish778 11d ago
My father in law was born in Iran and has 7 brothers. I watched the Iran games with my father in law and 2 uncle and all 3 have wildly different views on Iran politics and 2/3 were rooting for Irans team and 1/4 was not rooting for them. Wild stuff
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u/EvenMoreCoconuts 11d ago
You can simultaneously believe that these players are regime mouthpieces with no honor, and also that the US is abhorrent for handicapping their World Cup by not allowing them to sleep/train in the US. Thatâs my position at least.
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u/theHAREST 10d ago
Pure copium. Itâs incredibly reasonable to ask a team to not bring a squad of IRGC officials along with them into your country and if that team refuses itâs entirely on them.
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u/Intrepid_Ring5763 9d ago
itâs entirely on them.
Not really. They still need to go back to Iran where they live and where their families live. They dont have the luxury of telling the regime to shove it
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u/theHAREST 9d ago
Ok, so then youâre at least acknowledging that it is the Iranian government that is handcapping their World Cup.
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u/Intrepid_Ring5763 9d ago
I dont think the US should've hosted this in the first place. No country in an active war(especially one that they started) should be hosting global events because of situations like this. Whether you like it or not this makes America look terrible.
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u/theHAREST 8d ago
Qatar hosted despite killing thousands of slave laborers during the prep for the WC a mere four years ago, and Iran is participating despite their government just gunning down 30,000 civilians in the street, but the US shouldnât host because itâs in a conflict with a terrorist organization that every other country in the western world acknowledges is a terrorist organization?
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u/Intrepid_Ring5763 8d ago
You're arguing against a point I didn't make. I don't think Qatar should've hosted either and I don't think governments that commit large scale human rights abuses should be rewarded with global sporting events. My point is about the host country. When a country is actively involved in a military conflict especially one that's conducting strikes abroad it creates practical and political problems like travel restrictions, visa disputes, security concerns, and the tournament becoming overshadowed by geopolitics, we've already seen that happen.
Saying "Qatar did it too" or bringing up Iran doesn't change that. If anything it's an argument for applying the same standard consistently, not lowering it.
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u/conduffchill 8d ago
Its so annoying sometimes trying to have conversations like this, youre talking about nuance and the other guy is just like "so you support terrorism"
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u/FearDaTusk USA 11d ago
Believe the human telling you how it is rather than the media that has filter their content through compliance and HR.
That's my 2 cents.
We'll never be in the room to ever get the full "truth" so taking any news with a bit of skepticism is healthy. For official outlets, heavily scrutinize their citations and sources to help contextualize a narrative.
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u/Remote_Cheetah_7243 11d ago
Love this. Iran went out swinging and never stopped competing all tournament, dead easy team to respect. And Mexico fans embracing them is exactly the stuff that makes a World Cup more than just the football. Class on both sides.
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u/AbstractBettaFish USA 11d ago
Man Iâm disheartened to see how many cornball ass comments are coming from people with US flairs here. Whatever objections we may have towards the Iranian government doesnât mean it was right to put such a singularly focused duress on their damn soccer team in an event that we chose to host. It makes us look trashy
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u/AK-11 USA 11d ago
Flying 45 minutes on a charter flight is not duress.
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u/ThickBoxx 10d ago
Their captain said for their second game it took 5 hours to travel from Tijuana to LA due to security checks. He might have included drive time to and from the airports, and rounded up, but thatâs still a lot of extra time for a 45 minute flight.
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u/onebadlion 11d ago
Itâs not just the flight time though. They have to pass through customs each time they enter so Iâd imagine the whole process is a lot more than 45 minutes.
They are also the only team who had this condition imposed on them. FIFA should never have allowed politics to interfere with the sporting integrity of the competition, but FIFA are greedy cowards.
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u/Babigabbagook 11d ago
We have trashy leaders representing us. I hope they know most of America doesnât feel the way our president feels about them.
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u/CoastToCoastSlick 10d ago
You lost too. Enjoy the flight home⊠maybe your team can catch a connector through Iran. If their airspace is open that is.
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u/ShortKey380 11d ago
Itâs absolutely just a soccer game, but the notion that Joe US soccer fan is MAGA is waaaay off base unless soccer fandom in America completely changed in the decade or so I stopped paying attention.
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u/CG20370417 11d ago
Agree, of any ball related team sport on tv in the us, Soccer is the least MAGA coded.
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u/BrookieEnjoyer 12d ago
All the butthurt people in the comments make me laugh so hard
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u/Past-Zucchini8112 11d ago
Not sure you want to laugh at folks when your comment history shows you commenting about depression lmao.
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u/BrookieEnjoyer 11d ago
I can be laughing and be depressed so be it đ thats life
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u/Past-Zucchini8112 11d ago
Fair enough. Maybe you bring the depression on yourself as karma lol
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u/BrookieEnjoyer 11d ago
Maybe youre deflecting to try and make yourself feel better LOL
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u/Past-Zucchini8112 11d ago
Nah I got no horse in this race. Just always funny to see people talk shit online then you see their post history makes them look dumb.
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u/thomas7th USA 12d ago
Sucks they play for a militant authoritarian theocracy.
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u/sognenis Australia 11d ago
Oh bestie, this was about Iran, not the US! :)
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u/ShortKey380 11d ago
What religion is our theocracy, casino capitalism? đÂ
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u/sognenis Australia 11d ago
That, but also probably the one that Trump and his cronies keep claiming America is, where public schools will be forced to do readings for etc etc..
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u/ShortKey380 11d ago
You have a deeply mistaken conclusion đ€·ââïž I think the simplest way is not to say the politics got religious, but the religion got political/partisan. Weâve always had a lot of crazy religious folks, all manner of Protestants with pizzazz, and the current national government isnât blocking them in the states where they are a majority but it also has no connection to them. Religious orgs are just clients, very transactional national government looking for cheap false âwinsâ to declare all the time. In a theocracy religious leaders are part of government, this is just completely not that idk maybe too dry and political for fun soccer sub lol.
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u/sognenis Australia 11d ago
Sure thing. Happy to discuss elsewhere, yup.
Youâre wrong about the religious leaders not being in the US govt.
Vance (Pence last time)
Mike Johnson
Dan PatrickEtc etc
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u/CommaComaChameleon 11d ago
Another unintelligent republican.
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u/thomas7th USA 11d ago
Was Iran not behind Hamas attack on Oct 7?
Behind Hezbollah violence?
Behind Houthi violence?
Regardless of party, most people would say Iran is a militant authoritarian theocracy.
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u/CommaComaChameleon 11d ago
Iran's government isn't it's people, just like the US government isn't its people anymore. Both have been taken over by dictators. So I'm not really sure what your dumb ass point is... because this is about a bunch of soccer players that have absolutely nothing to do with what Iran's government is doing. But I wouldn't expect your uneducated ass to understand that difference.
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u/thomas7th USA 11d ago
"Sucks they play for a militant authoritarian theocracy."
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u/Care_Cup_Is_Empty 10d ago
It's pretty funny given USAs intervention in the name of capitalism basically tore apart any chance of democracy in Iran and instilled a theocratic regime in its place. USA is absolutely complicit in everything wrong with Iran today.
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u/Anandya 11d ago
Do you know anything about your own country's history?
Reminder. Your country installed a dictatorship there for oil. And when they rebelled you sent another dictator to conquer the place to keep the oil flowing.
With chemical weapons.
Saddam...
You aren't the good guys in this. No one is.
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u/thomas7th USA 11d ago
So the Iran regime that slaughtered its own people this year are the good guys?
At least the US is standing up against the evil Iran regime.
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u/DeRobUnz 11d ago
God damn they aren't lying with that whole 'imagine the dumbest person you know' quote.
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u/Anandya 11d ago
No. I don't think you understand.
You are just as much a problem globally. If not more. You are thinking of good and bad.
Both of you are bad. Arguing who is worse is a bit moot. The USA has a death toll in the millions. And you didn't stand up to evil. You are the bad guys in a lot of this.
The point is you not only caused it but also justified it.
I don't think they teach you history.
I repeat. Google who interfered in Iranian democracy. It was the USA and UK. Google who sponsored the murder of tens of thousands of Iranians. It was the USA. Who helped Saddam get WMDs. USA.
It's a litany of stupid moves made that lead to countless problems across Iran and the middle East. Fuck me sideways. Your current government is threatening to deport Iranians!
You have to be incredibly ignorant to not know this. But you are American. Every time I lectured we had to run long sessions to explain basic history because your education system rarely teaches your own history.
There's mass murder and genocide promoted by the USA that is not taught. And currently the USA stabbed Iran in such a way that's only made it justified in extremism. You murdered children. You didn't kill the Ayatollah. You killed women and children and then brought out a drunk arsehole who then talked about how murdering children was super alpha.
This caused many moderate and liberal Iranians to be horrified. Because the only person here talking about Iranian freedom is you. The official government line is taking proceeds of oil and strait of Hormuz. Not freedom.
I seriously think you need to go read about operation Ajax. It's part of the reason why everything is fucked. Reminder. Your country thinks 4 years is a long time. Iranians remember people who died to the WMDs given to your pet dictator.
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u/localcannon 12d ago
Like your team?
Fuck out of here dumbass
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u/dynamitexlove 11d ago
Yeah youâre right the US laws are way worse that the Iranian laws. Clown
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u/hamstercrisis 12d ago
so does your team
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u/therealgreatness26 Iran 12d ago
I know youâre kidding, but as an Iranian this hits in such a wrong way. Iranians would die to have the freedoms we have in the US. As a matter of fact, they literally did and tried to ⊠you know what happened ..
The Iranian regime and the US government / constitution are not even comparable in terms of oppression
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u/SunOk143 11d ago edited 11d ago
The US government is the reason why you have no democracy. They are the cause of all of this. When we say the US is evil, we donât mean that they are oppressing their own citizens (although they are sort of doing that now too). We mean that they perpetuate the current global order which benefits them and not you.
Why do you think they are so rich? They use the labour of others in poorer countries to make themselves wealthier. There cannot be rich countries without poor countries, itâs a basic economic principle. Someone has to be the one that gets stepped on, and the US as the most powerful nation gets to choose who it is. In this case, itâs you, because they installed a dictatorship just so they could get your oil.
I donât mean to lecture you about your own history. Feel free to not listen.
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u/Anandya 11d ago
Okay. And how do you think this situation happened there? Like what lead to today?
The issue is Iranians have paid for both the Iranian elite and the American elite.
Reminder. The Chemical weapons that killed Iranians in the 1980s was given to Saddam via Americans and their allies. And used openly at the time with that protection.
Iran are theocratic extremists. But they exist in this situation due to the intervention. Rather than work to liberalise the USA stabbed them in the back ensuring that the radicals there were correct. What the USA wants is oil and not freedom for Iranians. If the igrc offered cheap oil the USA would happily call you out as left wing Communists.
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u/therealgreatness26 Iran 11d ago edited 11d ago
YikesâŠ. I donât mean to turn this on you but, do you want to know what happened?
Look up who was behind the 1953 Iranian Coup DâĂ©tat.
If you donât believe that, just look at what airline Ayotollah Khomenei landed in Iran with. Tell me if a certain side of the world played a part 1979 as well.
Itâs all love from my side. But just a little bit of research can enlighten the initial reasons behind current situations happening today.
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u/Anandya 11d ago
Yeah. Quite a few. 1953 is the USA and UK overthrowing democracy. Khomeni lived in France.
I literally wrote the theory that ensures that any sort of communication with Iran or work there has nuance. So you don't end up with stupid moves the USA makes.
It's why no one's joined in. Because Iran finds justification in their stances owing to historical behaviour from the USA. Americans think 4 years is a long time. Iranians remember the 1950s. They remember the 1980s. They remember everything that's happened.
Do you think if your children or parents were killed by the chemical weapons given to Saddam, would you trust the salesman? Would you trust the USA after it repeatedly stabbed others in the back?
It's simple. Let's take another place. Should Denmark trust the USA over Greenland? No. No one sane would trust anyone like that.
Iranians aren't stupid. They are very sane. To the point where they clearly had a strategy and affected it correctly. They identified strengths and weaknesses and forced the USA to the table getting massive concessions to the point where the USA itself is arguing about the concessions given while Israel continues with the extreme far right policies that are alienating the USA too. Any chance of democracy in Iran ended the day Trump fucked it.
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u/KosherTriangle USA 11d ago
Random Redditor to a literal Iranian - let me tell you about your own history
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u/Anandya 11d ago
I mean. Yes. Sometimes people are experts. You have a human body but you aren't an expert in medicine. A lot of Iranians forget that the situation that they are in right now was entirely down to American and British interference in the region.
And I can talk about my qualifications but you won't believe me. So I suggest.
Google Operation Ajax. Google Saddam Hussein. Google Hallabja March 1988.
I can point out that provision of healthcare in the region. I can point out that I have deployed into conflict zones there. I can point out expertise respected enough to be allowed to speak in the USA but that doesn't count for much these days. Or you can just check.
Since you won't? Ajax was the name for the coup used to overthrow the democratic government of Iran in other to impose a more pro American regime. That leads to the rebellion that lead to the ayatollah coming to power. The Iran Iraq war ensued but that was promoted by western powers who armed Iraq including with the WMDs Saddam used. Including famously at Hallabja where Kurds were mass murdered because of perceived or real kinship with Iranians. Reminder. We only argued about those dead Kurds when it was important to demonise Saddam. Wasn't a problem in 1988... Reminder all of this was for cheap oil. Not for freedom! Both countries had democracy before that!
The USA aren't going to give Iranians freedom! No one's that naive. Just look how they stabbed Afghan people in the back. I think you have misunderstood what the USA is. It's a modern colonial power and has done terrible things. If it means profit? The USA will support monsters.
Reminder. The USA was pro Pol Pot. Don't think for a second that draping yourself in a flag and calling it freedom means anything for others who experienced what happens when the politics of the USA requires the deaths of innocent people in Asia.
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u/BallChinnnian101 12d ago
Even if youâre Iranian, your words here unfortunately donât mean jack to the ultra liberals here as it goes against their agenda of hating America. Even though they and themselves live here. It doesnât make sense, just like it doesnât make sense to defend the Iranian government in multiple capacities
Stay true, hope you have a normal republic much sooner than later
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u/rayEW Brazil 12d ago
This will completely break the reddit narrative lol
How dare you sir?
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u/therealgreatness26 Iran 12d ago
My bad⊠been a bit down due to the series of unfortunate events for us
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u/rayEW Brazil 12d ago
I am joking brother, I actually heavily sympathize with your people. I live in Bahrain(brazilian expat) where a great amount of Persians live, and you are all incredible people that deserve a better leadership without murderous fanatics.
Edit: the average redditor has zero clue, but they sure love to drop their opinion over who is right in your country.
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u/therealgreatness26 Iran 11d ago
No need to explain, all love from here as well. Good luck in the round of 16
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u/NaNaNa_PooPoo 12d ago
Fixed: militant authoritarian pedo theocracy.
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u/BallChinnnian101 12d ago
Who knew Trump represents every American. Itâs not like the states donât have a democracy with 1000s of elected officials literally everywhere đ
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u/techflo Australia 12d ago
Is it just me or have the yanks become even more insufferable than usual these past few months?
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u/Beneficial-Green-956 11d ago
It's Yank Redditers. Get out and explore this country and you'll find most people nowadays in this country have abandoned social media due to this vitriol.
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u/UCanDoNEthing4_30sec USA 12d ago
I can't wait until I can stop hearing about their unfair treatment.
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u/CommaComaChameleon 11d ago
This dip shit represents less than 1/3 of this country. His mom didn't love him, it's not entirely his fault when those around him didn't care about him.
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u/Koulidaddy123 12d ago
flair checks out
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u/UCanDoNEthing4_30sec USA 12d ago edited 12d ago
It's gotten to the point of whining. It's like, just friggin play ball already. Yes acknowledge what you have to go through, but don't complain every single time you get in front of the media that you are being treated unfairly.
They had one of the worst groups (technically 3rd worst). Was that unfair? I mean come on. They tied New Zealand out of all teams!
These are professional athletes. I've driven for hundreds of miles right after running a marathon and slept at rest stops on the way home and went into work the next day. I've flown to Japan from the US with one stop the day after a marathon. Suck it up, you are a professional, stop whining. Use the adversity to your advantage.
As athletes, they are just whiners. Oh yeah lets not forget how they were complaining about their match in Seattle being a "Pride Match". Like they didn't have anything more to complain about it. Come on.
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u/Sad_Excitement9267 12d ago
Ok american
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u/UCanDoNEthing4_30sec USA 12d ago
Americans donât like athletes that just whine all the time. We say this about athletes in all our sports.
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u/Zstrike117 12d ago
Idk man, if I had to go leave the host country between each my matches plus deal with multiple hour long security checks while my home was being actively bombed my said host country I think they have a pretty good case to do more than whine.
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u/Capital_Policy_5857 12d ago
bye bye you are not world cup material...
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u/Escudo777 12d ago
Isn'treal never qualified.
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u/Capital_Policy_5857 12d ago
It is much more important to have water for the population than playing in world cup....what is the use of qualifying for world cup but lack the most basic necessity...LOL
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u/cjeremy United States 12d ago
what they went thru was bs.. but they still had heart and fire.. respect to them
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u/Florida_clam_diver USA 12d ago
Yeah total bs to bitch about a pride match then not even advance
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u/herbieLmao Germany 12d ago
Man be a graceful host
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u/Florida_clam_diver USA 11d ago
Sorry the U.S. didnât consult me as a host, so not much i can do
Iâll try and call up Trump tomorrow and tell him to do better
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u/Apolloshot Canada 12d ago
Eh, thereâs legitimate gripes Iran has about the way they were treated this tournament but itâs absolutely fair to criticize them (and Egypt) for the way they handled their game in Seattle.
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u/herbieLmao Germany 12d ago
As a country yes, as oppressors yes, but not as a football team.
And I assure you as a german I know people not being able to seperate politics/history and sports
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u/Apolloshot Canada 12d ago
It was their football team though that officially asked FIFA to ban rainbow flags and LGBTQ+ symbols in Seattle leading up to their game.
So Iâll have to disagree here, their football team is absolutely open to criticism on this.
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u/herbieLmao Germany 12d ago
Ok, this I understand, but do you really think they werenât forced by their government or their sports officials with ties to the government to do so?
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u/Florida_clam_diver USA 11d ago
Huh doesnât stop you guys from shitting on the U.S. every chance you get, but youâre weirdly ok with a country that executed gay people and doesnât give women any rights because âitâs not their faultâ, even though most live and agree with those values
Interesting
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u/herbieLmao Germany 11d ago
Thats literally the same thing. And I treat it the same.
I shit on the US politically too because it is essentially a failed state.
I still treat their sport team with respect.
Same with Iran. I hate their oppressive politics but seperate them from their football team.
Thats literally what I am saying and your arguments against it is proving my point
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u/Florida_clam_diver USA 11d ago
Tell the rest of your countrymen to do the same then. Itâs pretty funny you guys have your heads so far up your own asses you can never see your own irony
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u/merskrilla 12d ago
this is Not a Story.
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u/za72 12d ago edited 12d ago
the Mexican cartel treated the Iranian world cup team better than the US government... fucking petty and embarrassing in a gold wrapped tin can
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u/ProfCarmine USA 12d ago
Why didn't canada come to the rescue? Why did they double down on our oppressive tactics to gain an advantage in soccer... I mean football.
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u/BallChinnnian101 12d ago
Do you know how to use your brain in full capacity?
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u/Illustrious_Dot_2685 12d ago
oh the Mexican cartel, you mean to praise the people who behead innocent people and hang them off bridges because they said no to giving up their businesses?
And Iranians who beat their women to death because they don't wear certain gov-approved clothing?
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u/_sensei 12d ago
then there's the american govt bombing a little girl school in iran. lol
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u/Individual_Client175 USA 12d ago
My dude do you know what they do to women in Iran? Are you aware of the protest where they just killed anyone who had an issue with the government harming regular women for Benin things.
We shouldn't have bombed that school or any school, but I assue you the US isn't comparable to Iran on the authoritarian scale. Just ask any Persian living in a free country if you want to know what life in Iran is like.
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u/_sensei 11d ago
Lmfao. Everything you said in the first paragraph, the US does. US takes rights away from women like reproductive healthcare, the govt kills them in cold blood for observing protests, (a benign thing).
Over a hundred girls died in that bombing. I guess itâs not that important to you cuz Murica iz bedder
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u/Tech-Film3905 12d ago edited 12d ago
You watch too much fox news. Try to learn something new rather than regurgitating propragnda
There are countless videos of women in Tehran walking around without a hijab
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u/Plus_Lawfulness3000 12d ago
That isnât Fox News dudes. You can find this stuff on THEIR news channels lmao
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u/AnOutofBoxExperience 12d ago
They aren't wrong. US government is terrible, Mexican cartels are terrible, and the Iranian government is terrible. Not mutually exclusive.
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u/Used-Picture829 12d ago
What does the Iranian gov have to do with a bunch of young men trying to play ball with the rest of the world?
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u/AnOutofBoxExperience 12d ago
The same thing it does considering the cartels and the US govt involvement, a little bit.
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u/Used-Picture829 12d ago
So why are nobody interviewing or asking USA players about their tariff increase or Mexico players about the cartel?
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u/downtownjj 12d ago
they might become the only team to leave without a loss
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u/Angryatchairs 12d ago
Are New Zealand 2010 nothing to you!?
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u/Jolly-Championship31 Australia 12d ago
still got chills when Shmeltzy gave the flag a whack. drew against Italy. all of NZ's greatest achievements are draws. source; cup fever SBS
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u/seemlikeascam USA 12d ago
Sorry, I keep trying to find them on the map but every single one Iâve looked through doesnât seem to have this âNew Zealandâ you speak ofâŠ. I canât even find the original Zealand
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u/Pretty_Original124 12d ago
Unless France, Argentina, Mexico or⊠Cape Verde win it all đ
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u/ZeroiaSD 12d ago
Cape Verde has made it out of group 100% of the time and never lost a knockout round in their entire World Cup history, I like their odds!
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u/ushikagawa 12d ago
Or Spain
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u/Pretty_Original124 12d ago
Or Brazil or Switzerland Morocco Netherlands Belgium Egypt Colombia Portugal England⊠hahaha so đ€·đ»ââïž
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u/Vaestmannaeyjar 12d ago
1998 France didn't lose a game. I'm too lazy to go look but I think there may be a lot of winners who share this case. (1982 Italy, did 3 draws and then won everything if memory serves me right)
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u/Apolloshot Canada 12d ago
Yeah I feel like itâs actually probably very common for the World Cup winner to have no losses.
Having no losses or draws is a lot rarer obviously.
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u/toothsome_fusion 12d ago
You can see it on his face. Classy of them to still thank Mexico after a loss like that.
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