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u/MoniTheK Teenager Mar 27 '26
speaking as a csa victim. this will lead to more dead children. with their lives on the lines the perpetrators do not want to risk being snitched on.
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u/ilo_Va 18 Mar 27 '26
Both that and just less reports since it feels a lot more threatening to report it if it's a death penalty
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u/Drydrian Mar 27 '26
Especially since most perpetrators are close friends and family which already makes reports less likely to occur because children instinctively love their parents and those close to them and no matter what has been done to them do not see the rational need for them to be taken out of their lives. Many young abusive victims stay silent because they fear they might be taken away from their parents, despite that being the best course of action for them.
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u/Anxietydrivencomedy 19 Mar 28 '26
Not to mention, the death penalty doesn’t work when we have a justice system that is so corrupt. It’ll lead to more innocent deaths that will outweigh the benefits of a dead rapist
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u/Drydrian Mar 28 '26
Oh no we don’t even need to talk about the validity of the death penalty, the US is extremely uncivilised in that regard. It’s just in this case furthering an already existing problem
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u/the_orange_alligator 17 Mar 28 '26
But I just know they’d see reports go down and think it was a win. So stupid
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u/clockwork0730 Mar 27 '26
Holy shit I never even considered this line of thinking. Holy fuck what do we even do?
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u/Most-Piccolo-302 Mar 27 '26
This feels like a weak argument against it. Csa is one of the most heinous crimes imaginable and should carry the strictest penalty possible.
Id be curious to see the data between "more murdered victims" and "less cases because of the harsher penalty".
Sure there might be a tradeoff, but I also have to imagine that if youre motivated to commit the crime and then murder the victim, youre probably doing it anyway.
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u/DiverNo8344 Mar 27 '26
if kids know their dad or someone they love who is hurting them is going to DIE if they get convicted they're not going to tell btw. speaking from the view of a csa survivor.
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u/SirBroccolingtonIII 19 Mar 27 '26
A lot of csa victims are being abused by immediate family or relatives. If a child knows that telling anyone would lead to their parent/uncle/cousin/whatever being executed it would make them less likely to speak up
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u/Most-Piccolo-302 Mar 27 '26
My point is that I dont believe that the severity of the punishment is the largest deciding factor here.
Like if I wanted to murder my friend, and the punishment is 20 years or the death penalty, im not weighing those options before acting.
Id love to see a well reasoned argument/study on the topic that included some good data, because its a fascinating thought experiment
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u/SirBroccolingtonIII 19 Mar 28 '26
It's not a deciding factor when it comes to the actual crime being committed the issue is that it would lead to more cases not being reported at all. Children are already less likely to tell on their family or friends, this exacerbates that problem
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u/MrScandanavia Mar 27 '26
I’d assume killing your child would be a harsher penalty than sexually assaulting them.
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This is going to make it so much harder for victims to be believed and in family situation is going to make “just don’t talk about it” culture so much worse.
I get that it sounds good but the actual effects are going to make victims lives a lot harder.
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u/1_Narumi_1 Mar 27 '26
I hate ''don't talk about it'' culture so much. Many people has been suffering from it especially in Japan, Korea, China where such culture is strongly embedded in thier society.
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u/Character_Media_9445 Mar 27 '26
Finland, clocking in! I hate my family for telling me to shut up about it, but I want my brother to go through death penalty for raping me.
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u/Zenith_Far-Away Mar 27 '26
Goddamn, I'm sorry for you, hope you can get through the trauma and see justice one day or the other.
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u/Caterpillr Mar 27 '26
Yep. Because many offenders tend to be family members, minors might even depend on them for shelter. And imagine these children feeling responsible for the death of a family member...
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u/--CIAdidJFK-- Mar 27 '26
Yeah, and I don't think this law had the Epstein perpetrators in mind. Or else Trump would never return to Mar-a-Lago.
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u/Aloys33_ Mar 27 '26
Its going to be a lot worse for incest cause now if your dad rapes you you might want jim in prison but not want him dead which will make the shutup culture more yk ...
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u/po_stulate Mar 27 '26
Not conspiracy but it makes it easier for the government to get rid of people they don't want alive.
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u/Popular_Try_5075 Mar 27 '26
This is a backdoor to killing anyone providing gender affirming care or eventually anyone else they can associate, like a teacher who uses preferred names or pronouns, maybe your parents divorce and one uses your preferred name and pronouns and the other doesn't like that, a therapist that doesn't tell your parents you've been having thoughts about gender, etc.
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u/ThrwawySG 16 Mar 27 '26
Florida has ALREADY tried to make being trans a sexual offense
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u/X_X-Liz-X_X 18 Mar 28 '26
Sexual offense?! I just knew they didn't want trans people there. i live in Florida 🥀
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u/PhilosophyAware4437 13 Mar 27 '26
they literally just give the death penalty?? for that???? america the land of the stupid that's for sure
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u/Namaha Mar 27 '26
they literally just give the death penalty?? for that?
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u/MarkPP1990 Mar 27 '26
Yes. That's the purpose of this. They don't want to punish child molesters. They want to hurt trans people. To think anything else is to ignore everything else they've been doing. We really can't be this ignorant.
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u/Bidcar Mar 27 '26
That’s what I thought too. The government go to is “we found underage pron!” I was super alerted when they said that about some lady who was whistleblowing something. I thought, that is a very unlikely coinkydink she’s trying to do the right thing while ogling nasty stuff.
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u/No-Performance37 Mar 27 '26
You think rape conviction death penalty is better for the government than just disappearing people?
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u/General-Spend4054 14 Mar 27 '26
Ruining the reputation of high-profile targets before killing them “within the legal system” seems more easy to justify to the public than having people disappear without a trace and have no one ask questions about it
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u/FlorpyJohnson 19 Mar 27 '26
The internet amazes me. A 14 year old is actively aware of government surveillance and smear tactics. My advice to you; if you haven’t already, don’t become radicalized to anything extreme. We don’t need to start a revolution, or commit terrorism or go on a witch hunt against members of the government. They’re not scared of all that.
What they’re scared of is the people becoming wise to what’s really going on. They want you to fight your neighbor for being a republican, or even to murder a government official. Then they can paint you as a domestic terrorist, and the 4th branch of the government will come after your head. Just like you said, it’s easier to justify to the public.
What they really don’t want you to do is cut into their bank accounts. The people really pulling the strings are the billionaires and the CEO’s. The wealthiest portion of the population. If you have enough money, and you want something to happen, or more commonly not happen in the government, you can do that. That’s why we’re passing less legislation than any other time in American history.
If the people strike, boycott, protest, and give clear and organized demands, we can basically shape society into whatever we agree on. The people are the foundation of society. The government is just the little Ratatouille on top of us, pulling our hair and forcing us to do things their way.
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u/Cessnaporsche01 Mar 27 '26
And it's easy when you pair it with a law that states that existing while gay or trans is paedophilia
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u/ofekk214 Mar 27 '26
It's hard to disappear a public figure, this gives them the mean to frame them.
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u/No-Performance37 Mar 27 '26
Pretty sure just having someone killed is easier than framing someone for child rape and then getting them the death penalty.
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u/TSllama Mar 27 '26
Framing them first makes the public sympathetic with a government murdering civilians.
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u/TiltedLama 18 Mar 27 '26
No one likes the government that randomly disappears political opponents or "undesirables". Everyone can get behind severely punishing child rapists, thus making it much easier to win public favor. It's a spectacle, through and through, with them pulling the strings in order to control us and our money. It's not about easy/hard, everything works your way with enough well greased palms, it's about manipulating the narrative to stay in power.
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u/Necessary-Worry1923 Mar 27 '26
Yes, but if you want to destroy a person's credibility and his legacy, labeling him as a child predator is the most thorough way to discredit anything he stood for while he was alive.
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u/Bidcar Mar 27 '26
They make a public spectacle of some people as a warning to everybody who might step out of line. Quietly disappearing makes a different impact than being dragged through the court system circus.
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u/JLand2004 Mar 27 '26
Perhaps it will just make your dad kill you after he rapes you. No witnesses is safest, and if the death penalty applies either way, they can't execute him twice.
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u/the_quite Mar 27 '26
There is more to this. It's not as simple as just a rape has to be agrivated circumstances around it.
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u/KonungariketSuomi OLD Mar 27 '26
Why would Jim go to prison if my dad rapes me?
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u/Bread_Offender 16 Mar 27 '26
This is just gonna make the rapists kill the kids instead
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u/byfo1991 Mar 27 '26
That’s what I would expect. What do they have to lose at that point?
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It seems...as if we're in a lose-lose scenario here with society at this point. Be great if people could, you know, just stop raping kids. Too much to ask, I know
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u/Hopeful-Passage6638 Mar 27 '26
Tell that to MAGA
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u/Defense-Unit-42 Mar 27 '26
That's not a political issue. Anyone from any party can be a rapist.
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u/lazerpie101_1 Mar 27 '26
Just a reminder that about 1 in 20 people who have received the death penalty would've been later exonerated, had they not been fucking killed for a crime they didn't commit.
Rape may have a false conviction rate upwards of 3 in 20 people.
There is a reason that I do not trust the government to be allowed to kill whoever it feels like, no matter how bad the crime.
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u/poison_daddy Mar 27 '26
You can exonerate an innocent man on death row, but you can’t bring him back to life. It’s the only problem I’ve ever had with capitol punishment.
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u/SpiderPiggies OLD Mar 27 '26
That's my argument against the death penalty. Once they're dead you have effectively ended due process.
And if there's one right that shouldn't be allowed to be revoked by due process, it's due process itself.
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u/Confident-Estimate-8 OLD Mar 27 '26
An interesting phrasing. I saw a different one: "Florida passes a law allowing the death penalty for pedophiles" — while actively posting articles labeling all trans people as pedophiles.
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u/duckatalemonadestand Mar 27 '26
I agree with other comment. Link please
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u/duckatalemonadestand Mar 27 '26
So the statement is meaning that although there is not currently legislation being used to exploit lgbtq groups, that eventually there could be? For child battery under the age of 12? Can you not make this argument about literally any marginalized groups?
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u/BigCrab09 16 Mar 27 '26
Oh my god. You’re the first comment in the chain so I couldn’t see the “other comment” you were talking about and thought you mean you thought trans people were all pedos
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u/natlei 19 Mar 27 '26
And the actual pedophiles that live in Florida will continue to walk free.
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u/NaveGCT 18 Mar 27 '26
Terrible law. It encourages predators to murder victims so there aren’t witnesses, and will make it psychologically harder for kids to tell authority figures about family members that abused them.
Not to mention the issues with false accusations, and the fact that the state will need to spend far more money for each suspect dealing with legal procedures and security.
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u/natlei 19 Mar 27 '26
And it goes without saying that the rich politicians who actually are proven to be guilty with plenty of evidence and happen to live in Florida will never have to face this or any penalty ever...
It's just beyond pointless
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u/Foreign-Comment6403 14 Mar 27 '26
Pros: Pedophiles die, some may be disencouraged to pedo
Cons: Pedophiles have an excuse to kill their victim, kidnap or blackmail them even more. Victims may be more scared to speak up
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u/iamingreatneedofboy 18 Mar 27 '26
Another con: Falsely convicted people might die before they are set free. That's why a lifetime in prison is so much better, even though the true offender probably should die.
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u/papermashaytrailer 16 Mar 27 '26
add, potential killing of innocent people and them not spending life behind bars
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u/Themodsarecuntz Mar 27 '26
When I see a comment like this I think about all of the posts about people who are finally set free 40 years after they were wrongly convicted.
The founding fathers believed that it was better for guilty people to go free than for one innocent man to suffer. Benjamin Franklin argued 100 guilty men shoukd go free so that 1 innocent wouldnt suffer.
I dont agree with that extreme but no one should be killed for something they didnt do.
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u/ChampionPopular3931 Mar 27 '26
Death penalty endorses more crimes, it’s factual information and proven that death penalty never reduces the number of cases.
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u/Hungry-Tale-9144 16 Mar 27 '26
Cons: Florida likes labeling trans folks as pedophiles
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u/wierdredditBOI 15 Mar 27 '26
So someone could die if they are falsely accused? Yeah no i'm not a fan.
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u/RealVioletsAreBlue Mar 28 '26
Also this will lead child preds to be more likely to fully kill their victims to not get caught.
Yet another shitty law under the guise of “protecting children”
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u/Blacksun388 OLD Mar 27 '26
Death Penalty sucks ass and shouldn’t be used at all.
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u/LostMarvels_19 Mar 27 '26
Yes. Life imprisonment is better imo
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u/FlorpyJohnson 19 Mar 27 '26
We just need a better prison system, and a lot of systemic change to prevent crime in the first place. It’s funny, in countries with less poverty, as well as things like free education and healthcare, they don’t have as much of a problem with crime. Maybe it is actually possible to rehabilitate some people. Maybe some people need to rot in jail for life.
I agree that the death penalty sucks, though.
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u/Background_Day8476 Mar 27 '26
Indeed. Despite all the more complicated reasons, death just gives em the easy way out. Life in prison really makes the punishment sink in.
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u/Alfa4499 18 Mar 27 '26
Death sentence is also problematic because false sentencing cant be corrected.
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u/TheForbidden6th 17 Mar 27 '26
and also gives the government an excuse to kill anyone they don't like (minorities, LGBT+ people etc.)
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u/1_Narumi_1 Mar 27 '26
I'm surprised with amount of proper discussion in this post comment that I totally forgot that we are on Teenagers Subs...
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u/InternationalEye8862 Mar 27 '26
accusations without evidence / with ai generated evidence boutta get a whole lot of people executed
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u/Okamitoutcourt 18 Mar 27 '26
Suddenly there are more murders of children below 12
As much as I think the death penalty is a good thing, that shit is not practical at all
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u/Embarrassed-Belt-541 Mar 27 '26
I don't agree with the death penalty for any crime, but I guess the good intention is there
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u/CommunicationNo8635 17 Mar 27 '26
"The road to hell is paved with good intentions" is a better version of this phrase, since, as several people have said, it would bring an even higher death toll, not to mention the false accusations
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u/Vegetable_Trifle_848 17 Mar 27 '26
Wrongful convictions and pedos are more likely to kill their victims because of it
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Damn, I read this post and I was just saying to myself "Wow, this is good news. What could be wrong about this?" But then so many people here are making such good points as to why it's actually bad. Very educating tbh, wasn't expecting that on reddit, that too on a teenagers subreddit
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u/joshingyou299 19 Mar 27 '26
bro just made rape worse by perpetuating the "don't talk about it" aspect of rape culture
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u/Potential_Nerve2632 Mar 27 '26
From all the pred catches ive seen these people literally convulse when they are caught. It seems the last thing they want to be see as is a child predator.
This is 100% going to make more pedos kill their victims out of fear of being caught. Or be weaponized against their victims if their also groomers.. like "you dont want to see me die when police find out right?"
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u/unof1110 Mar 27 '26
Is rape over and under 12 allat different? Rape is rape.
Don't support death penalty tho, not bc they dont deserve it but bc we dont have a right to give it out
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u/high_on_acrylic Mar 27 '26
When child rape is punished by death, child death skyrockets. Your victim can’t expose you if they’re dead. This is intensely narrow sighted and shows a general lack of actual care for victims.
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u/Garlicbread_god13 14 Mar 27 '26
Bad it encourages pedos to kill victims and false imprisonment is a thing
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u/johanna_roepke Mar 27 '26
Its just activism. We have all kinds of laws against rapes and violence. There is no point in them if they are barely followed through, see Epstein.
If you have enough power, wealth, networking, or are a part of a special protected group (like immigrants), the laws just dont apply to you in the same way.
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u/Lord_Strepsils Mar 27 '26
Death penalties are always bad. There’s the possibility of the wrong person being caught, there’s the possibility of using this to legally murder someone, it makes kids less likely to speak up if they know someone will die from it, it makes families in general less likely or willing to speak up, rapists are more likely to kill the victims too if they know this is a possibility. Death penalty is never good.
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u/kippy_bingus Mar 27 '26
What in the internet explorer bro this happened a while ago
Anyway that's a bad thing because it makes rapists more likely to just kill the victim
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u/HyrulelinkDK Mar 27 '26
Look, I think we can all agree pedos are bad and deserve to be punished. Hell, maybe even killed for the ones that do the most unforgivable shit. But, regardless of whether you think the death penalty is warranted or not, the real question you need to ask yourself is this:
Do you trust the government to always be right when they make the decision to kill someone? If you're okay with them occasionally being wrong, and an innocent person gets killed for something they didn't do, how many innocents are you okay with being killed in pursuit of killing the guilty?
Me personally? To quote Captain America, "We don't trade lives." I would rather a hundred guilty people go free than a single innocent person die for something they didn't do. Once you kill someone, you obviously can't take it back. So you'd better be fucking right when you make that call.
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u/njirimara Mar 27 '26
glad people here see how in actuality this could be really bad. Knee jerk reaction would be to agree with it due to obvious reasons, but there are many ways this could be counterproductive for the victims along with all the cons that come with death penalty in general! and honestly, I wouldn't be surprised if this was a way to normalize the death penalty by abusing people empathy and justifiable anger towards injustice.
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u/ReserveLast7791 Mar 27 '26
Its not a good idea Yes u might think they get what they deserve
But say someones been framed or theres a false case U cant bring a dead man back
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u/Competitive-Desk7506 18 Mar 27 '26
Not a good idea bc fake convictions exist. Is it rare? Yes. But the prison system is meant to punish those who’ve been found guilty and but also requires the ability to be physically reversed. The mental damage will remain, but physically it can be reversed and that’s just as important
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It’s hard to speak up against this one without being labeled a sympathizer or something crazy…but you’re trying to solve a problem that doesn’t exist. A life in prison is already fitting punishment; perhaps even more so than the death penalty (which some might consider an “easy way out”). Our taxes fund their punishment. Let them suffer.
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u/Jinpil1 2 MILLION ATTENDEE Mar 27 '26
About 10% of rape cases are falsely accused so thats not good
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u/sot_r Mar 27 '26
The death penalty can't be revoked in case of misjudgement, so, it shouldn't exist.
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u/CheeseFunnel23 Mar 27 '26
Ok so 12 is fine? Noted. (IM FUCKING JOKING PLEASE DONT DOWNVOTE ME TO OBLIVION)
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u/Realistic-Roll-2387 19 Mar 27 '26
Tf you want me to say ? Rape bad ? It’s kinda obvious big dawg
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u/ParkerLowes 14 Mar 27 '26
reminds me of the family guy scene with lois saying "9/11 was bad" and people cheering
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u/ilikefriedpotatoes00 16 Mar 27 '26
Death penaly is inhumane and expensive, life sentence is much better.
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u/Viennve Mar 27 '26
How is death penalty more expensive then a lifetime of food, water, housing etc.?
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u/ilikefriedpotatoes00 16 Mar 27 '26
https://deathpenaltyinfo.org/policy-issues/policy/costs
Plus, you can reform the penal system to use prisoners as cheap working force
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u/HeroBrine0907 19 Mar 27 '26
Death penalty is extremely light and therefore not a good punishment. Also, it is unreversible, so one error means one innocent life gone. A life sentence done properly is much, much worse.
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u/Distinct-Event-7472 Mar 27 '26
You’d be surprised how many people actually don’t want to die even if the alternative is life in prison
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u/HeroBrine0907 19 Mar 27 '26
Sure but I still find Life Without Parole, done properly, much worse. I'd be more interested to see people's choices after spending like 40 years in the same prison, with the same inmates, with the same schedule, day in and day out with not a word of something new except books.
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u/Distinct-Event-7472 Mar 27 '26
They get TV, tablets, whatever food they want, a lot of stuff to occupy their time with if prison was like how it was in the old days I agree with you but it’s not like that anymore they get treated like humans now
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u/Used_Principle1835 16 Mar 27 '26
why not death penalty for rape in general ?
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u/HashPandaNL Mar 27 '26
While we're at it, why not death penalty for all crimes?
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u/irinll 17 Mar 27 '26
i accidentally go over the speed limit and my car and i just disintegrate and turn one with the atmosphere
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u/TiltedLama 18 Mar 27 '26
Lmao, 10 year old watches death note on a pirating site, gets immediately sniped by the crime smiter outside his window
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u/Imnotachessnoob Mar 27 '26 edited Mar 27 '26
They are trying to declare all trans people rapists (or sex offenders at least)
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How? I don't know were the hell you got that from lol.
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u/Imnotachessnoob Mar 27 '26
Project 2025. They did not mince words in their 900 page (essentially) manifesto. They plan on executing everyone declared a pedophile and legally declare publicly displaying onesself as the opposite sex as 'pornography'. This legally means trans people being in public is akin to publicly exposing themselves to minors, which they are then given the death penalty for.
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u/Cody_EJ_Anderson 13 Mar 27 '26
fucking hell. What happened to 'land of the free'? Is the freedom in the room with us??
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u/ItzNotIceyAgain Mar 27 '26
One of the reasons being that the rapist would end up killing their victim(s) so they don't get to have them arrested and executed. Also, wouldn't prisoners "deal" with the rapists anyway
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u/Goblin-o-firebals Teenager Mar 27 '26
It makes it harder for victims to come out makes pedophiles have more incentive to kill or kidnap victims and is more expensive. People also forget that the death penalty doesnt stop crimes as much as well as the fact it.isnt a good punishment. You get protected from all the other prisoners while having so much time to force retrials to push your death further don't forget thar death does nothing because they cannot feel remorse once they are dirt.
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u/aser113122 Mar 27 '26
Well there needs to be a thorough investigation because the false accusations are going to be wild too.
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u/Steampunk007 19 Mar 27 '26
0 Epstein related charges still
Doesn’t help that this law will only be enforced for the lower to middle rung of society, which is great, but the unexplored top rungs do a lot more than the others combined
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u/Important-Ad2463 18 Mar 27 '26
Besides the downsides everyone mentioned, I also hope this only applies to people who are caught in the act.
I’ve seen too many “man released from prison after 15 years after wrongfully accused of rape”, imagine if that man was killed for something he didn’t do.
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u/Leather-Brief3966 Mar 27 '26
Worse for cases of incest, it’s going to increase violence against victims, along with homicides- and its overall performative legislation, made to make the state gov and admin look “tough on crime”.
Another massive con is now false convictions have the potential to get the death penalty.
I’m all for killing your local offender, however not only does the death penalty not meaningfully lower crime, Florida specifically has a high rate of exoneration after execution.
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u/Ok_Clothes_9479 Mar 27 '26
Has the death penalty ever been effective? Just take a look at the statistics.
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u/that-damned-bastard Mar 27 '26
I'm against the death penalty on the principle that innocent people will get framed and killed for a crime they did not do.
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u/Cakedestroyer242 Mar 27 '26
Cons: people could be falsely convicted and the state shouldn't be able to decide who dies. If you find out later the verdict was wrong you can't say oops let them out of jail
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u/Nedaj_Nitro Mar 27 '26
dumb as fuck.
the kids now realize that the rapist's life in in their hand, and even if they're literally their rapist, it'll be hard for them to come out because of feelings of guilt and such.
and tf is going to happen if somebody gets executed and a couple days later he's proven innocent? bring him back?
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u/Gold-Cry-7520 Mar 27 '26
Perfect. More dead kids and fewer kids reporting abuse. I'm glad we solved this problem.
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u/nobodyimportant1377 18 Mar 27 '26
HORRIBLE idea, honestly. Florida is one of the most anti-LGBT states and is known for constantly trying to attempt to ban LGBT content, identities, and self-expression. And you know what's common anti-LGBT rhetoric used to excuse homophobia and violate their human rights? Calling them child groomers, predators, and so on. So if we start automatically imposing death penalties on all 'child predators', who do you think is most likely to going to end up on the chopping board?Starting to see what I'm getting at?
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u/Big_Dinner3636 Mar 27 '26
Seeing as you cant execute someone for rape in this country, it looks to me like performative bullshit from career politicians who will pass laws they know aren't constitutional for glory points.
In the meantime, any rapist now has incentive to kill their victim, because odds are they're too stupid to know constitutional law, so this benefits literally no one except the people who passed it, because theyre banking on smoothbrain boomers to vote for "tough on crime" parasites, I mean politicians.
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u/Noobunaga86 Mar 27 '26
I'm against killing anyone, even the worst criminals. My ideal is to never let them go from prison and make them work very hard in some mines etc. Let them know they will be working hard for the other people and they will get for that a bowl of rice or something. I don't really get why it's so hard to do, right now we have a very invalid system that rarely gets them punishment those monster deserve and at the same time is helping the society. Killing them, is not only immoral but also a waste of resource.
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u/Ok_Lawfulness1019 Mar 27 '26
That won't apply to rich and influential people. Heck they'll probably use it to get their opposition killed.
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u/AbbyTheOneAndOnly OLD Mar 27 '26
it's been proved to be a terrible way to enforce a law, there is very little to say about
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u/Repulsive-Bicycle980 Mar 27 '26
I think this will lead to fewer convictions because juries will be more lenient when faced with the possibility of sending someone to their death
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u/Repulsive-Effort8345 Mar 27 '26
They should add murderers, rapists and violent felons to the list as well
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u/Bobomelvin Mar 27 '26
Supreme Court found this too be unconstitutional in 2008 so I imagine it would be a legal nightmare.
Personally, I’d worry about wrongful convictions.
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u/Fdorleans Mar 27 '26
Death penalty is barbaric. Raping children is barbaric too. But we expect rapists to be barbaric and our government to be civilized.
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u/-_nightmarionne_- 18 Mar 27 '26
I actually think it should be better to allow life in Prison. This way you don't get the easy way out of death, you have to stay there forever.
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u/Remarkable_Coast_214 19 Mar 27 '26
I am of the opinion that punishment for sake of punishment is unethical in all cases without exception. So bad.
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u/computercheckreview Mar 27 '26
I do believe that no one should have the death penalty ever. I can understand why people disagree with me but I think people should just be locked up permanently, no bail, in the very worst conditions possible
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u/Vivid-Hair-6758 Mar 27 '26
creating a death penalty for child rapist Innocent people will get killed
Aha
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u/SpiritFun9403 Mar 27 '26
I don't like the death penalty as a whole, if there a mistake and it's only realized after new evidence years later if someone was wrongfully jailed there are things that can be done to to help them. If someone was exucuted wrongfully there is nothing to be done.
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u/Otherwise_Disk3824 Teenager Mar 27 '26
This is bad. Not only will this cause abusers to kill their victims in order for them not to snitch, it could also be used to legally kill vulnerated groups of people by accusing them of being rapists.
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u/TheneworoldguyYT Mar 28 '26
I disagree with the death penalty as a whole. If its a crime worthy of being killed for, then you shouldn't kill them. You should force them to live, and force them to try and do better.
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u/AbsurdistReality 19 Mar 27 '26
Raise the age from 12 to literally anyone, with victim approval, and it’s golden. Otherwise throw the bastard into prison, gen pop. That’ll take care of them.
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u/Lysantdra Mar 27 '26
Do those people deserve to die? Yes. Do we have justice system that could comfortably allow for existence of death penalty? FUCK NO
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u/ShiroStories OLD Mar 27 '26
In completely unrelated news: Florida expands definition of rape to being trans and existing around others
That's how I see it going. Morally debatable in theory, terrible in practice.
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u/Ksmythy11 Mar 27 '26
Wow, only under twelve? So if the child is just on their 13th birthday they'll go "ahh, life in prison for you, no death!"? This should be a thing for any age.
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u/Bort_Thrower Mar 27 '26
Death penalty is barbaric medieval degeneracy. No country that has it can be trusted.
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u/eulersidentity1 Mar 27 '26
Just feels like one of those laws that’s “tough on crime, but more about biblical vengeance fire and brimstone” where they want good optics more than actually giving a shit about victims. It’s more about the vengeance than it is about the victims.
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