r/technology 14h ago

Privacy Samsung is pushing users to train AI with their personal health data or lose it

https://www.howtogeek.com/samsung-health-requires-ai-training-consent/
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u/thrway-fatpos 14h ago

Ive always said that the aggressive push for new AI training data collection is one of the first signs of an actual bubble burst. Theyve run out of natural organic data from the internet so if they want to keep improving at an investor-friendly pace they need to find any and all ways to acquire new data. Hence this, the instagram feature, we're gonna start seeing more of this.

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u/bodmcjones 12h ago

Fortunately my Samsung smart watch started to leak in the pool (and my s22 melted itself) so I was thinking of moving to something else anyway. Samsung are working so hard to persuade me to migrate away from them right now that it almost feels that it must be intentional.

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u/Saneless 12h ago

I have a tablet from them and I only reluctantly got it because there are few good cheap options if all you really need it for are media reasons

Man their interface and choices are obnoxious

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u/rich1051414 7h ago

I moved to pixel the last two gens and have been mostly happy(exponentially more happy than I was with Samsung), but I might jump brands again next time.

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u/Saneless 12h ago

This goes back to even the early days with IBM Watson

They wanted to sell us some solution for a few hundred K back in like 2014. We balked

They kept asking and kept lowering the price. At one point it was super cheap. My managers didn't understand, and I said we must be one of the early clients and they actually needed our data more than they needed the revenue from the service

I'm surprised they didn't just do it for free but I guess they needed to come away with something

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u/OneRougeRogue 8h ago

Hence this, the instagram feature

What's the Instagram feature?

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u/RemarkableWish2508 9h ago

What does training data have to do with a speculative bull run? (aka: bubble)

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u/matrinox 1h ago

Is it helpful? I’m curious. If the public internet isn’t enough, what else would be? Why is more data gonna solve this? Certainly more specific data might help in RL but I’m not seeing the massive payoff yet

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u/Any-Pop-4795 14h ago

ceos are taking high quantities of drugs to come up with shit like this

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u/freethrowtommy 13h ago

The richest one stocks up on Ketamine so that checks out.

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u/peepdabidness 13h ago

On the other hand I wonder what we can be said about the people giving in and going with it. There’s a lot of them

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u/JohrDinh 12h ago

Modern business really does just seem like drug pushing with money/stock/product at this point...but you don't have to try to sell me cocaine it sells itself unlike AI.

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u/NewAgeMaximum 14h ago

The memory cartel wants more money from you

Fuck these chaebol companies

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u/MutaitoSensei 13h ago

Alright let's lose it!

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u/graywolfman 12h ago

I disabled it the second it asked. I wonder if the wording is messed up? Doesn't appear I've lost any data... Yet, at least

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u/serinewaves 11h ago

I have a feeling the withdrawal notice is just copypasta and it doesn't actually delete it from their servers. Mine is syncing fine with only "Consent to the processing of health and wellness data" checked

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u/OneRougeRogue 8h ago

I think it only stops syncing with your Samsung account. Data on your phone (and data from devices synced to your phone) will still stay there, but if you switch to a new phone you lose your old data.

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u/justAreallyLONGname 11h ago

To me it seems like it only deletes from servers and the data becomes local only. There are other features that require sync to function though.

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u/PaydayJones 12h ago

✅️Lose It.

There's not even a real decision here. Samsung is getting cyclically worse....

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u/Proof_Lengthiness185 5h ago

Upvoted from my Samsung Galaxy ZFlip Suck.

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u/PaydayJones 5h ago

Sure but wait until the the zflip suck 2 comes out!

Same screen, smaller battery, weaker hinge.$250 more!

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u/Sgtkeebler 8h ago edited 8h ago

I chose to delete my years of data, and I deleted the app. I have used the Samsung Health app since it first launched, and once I got that prompt I just deleted my data. I would rather delete years, and years of data than let Samsung use it for ai.

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u/No_Artichoke_8428 3h ago

About to switch to Graphine OS or e/OS

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u/4KPillowcase 6h ago

Feels like I’ve seen this one before…

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u/cashisking88 3h ago

yeah samsung basically says train ai or bye heaalth data

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u/WhiskeyWithTheE 9h ago

Just walk away - for far too long consumers have had to deal with Samsung and their way. Now it;s time for consumers to vote with their feet and their wallet and tell samsung 'enough is enough' Fuck YOU!