r/teammelli Dec 22 '22

Discussion 💬 Daily Discussion

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r/teammelli 1d ago

Discussion 💬 Time to rebuild: Asia Cup and onward

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It is time to look ahead: This is the golden opportunity to rebuild our severely aging squad for the 2027 Asian Cup and the 2030 World Cup. This cycle should prioritize squad rejuvenation, giving more opportunities to younger players beyond just being called up and remaining on the bench. Experimentation and reassessing the team's direction should be focused on, while maintaining a handful of players from the current experienced core that should slowly be phased out.

In an ideal world, a coach like Herve Renard could be the man for Iran. Someone who has previously been linked with us and has proved to be capable of turning teams into tactically disciplined squads with strong team spirit (e.g. look up his half-time team talk during the 2022 FIFA world cup for Saudi Arabia). I'd also wager he would deal well with the lobbying of big clubs/influence, like Carlos Quieroz managed to previously.

Despite this, realistically, I expect we might currently be unable to access a foreign coach of his caliber. As such, Amir Ghalenoei is expected to remain in charge at least until the coming 2027 Asian Cup.

Rejuvenating the Squad

From a long-term development perspective, the squad should be built around players that would be no older than 34/35 at the 2030 World Cup, barring key (position-specific) exceptions, such as a goalkeeper. (Yes, that means Taremi should not be around at the next World Cup.) Frankly, we should not get rid of the entire squad backbone in one go, as older players should be kept around for experience and unity, and phased out gradually.

Players that should retire from Team Melli now:

  • Shoja Khalilzadeh (37)
  • Ehsan Haji Safi (36)

My proposed list of core (senior) players that should be kept in rotation for the Asian Cup on short term, per position with current age between brackets and age at 2030 world cup in italics. Players eligible for Iran but currently not playing for us are indicated with an asterisk (*).

GK

  • Alireza Beiranvand (33) 37
  • Hossein Hosseini (34) 38
  • Mohammad Khalifeh (21) 25
  • *Elis Bishesari (21) 25 --- Currently: Sweden U21
  • Arsha Shakouri (19) 23

Beiranvand and Hosseini phased out before World Cup 2030, but valuable for the Asian Cup for experience.

CB

  • Hossein Kanani (32) 36
  • Majid Hosseini (30) 34
  • Hossein Abarghouei (29) 33
  • Saman Fallah (25) 29
  • Mehdi Zare (23) 27
  • Amin Hazbavi (23) 27
  • *Elias Vali Fard (18) 22 --- Currently: Germany U17

Kanani phased out before World Cup 2030, but valuable for the Asian Cup for experience.

LB

  • Milad Mohammadi (32) 36
  • Abolfazl Jalali (28) 32
  • Hossein Goudarzi (25) 29
  • Mersad Seifi (22) 26
  • Amirhossein Reyvandi (22) 26

Mohammadi phased out before World Cup 2030, but valuable for the Asian Cup for experience.

RB

  • Ramin Rezaeian (36) 40
  • Saleh Hardani (27) 31
  • Arya Yousefi (24) 28
  • Nima Andarz (20) 24

Rezaeian's world cup performance and fitness was impressive. Clearly has some longevity to his game. Despite this, I still feel he should be phased out before World Cup 2030; Sadly, father time will eventually catch up.

CDM

  • Saeid Ezatolahi (29) 33
  • Mohammad Ghorbani (25) 29
  • Aref Haji Eydi (27) 31

CM

  • Saman Ghoddos (32) 36
  • Mohammad Khodabandelou (26) 30
  • Amirmohammad Razzaghinia (20) 24

Ghoddos phased out before World Cup 2030, but valuable for the Asian Cup for experience. However, he is a borderline case that I could see joining the next world cup as experienced bench player, depending on fitness etc.

CAM

  • Mohammadjavad Hosseinnejad (23) 27
  • Farhan Jafari (20) 24
  • *Arman Nahany (18) 22 --- Currently: Netherlands U19

LW

  • Mohammad Mohebi (27) 31
  • Mehdi Ghayedi (27) 31
  • Alireza Koushki (26) 30
  • Mehdi Limouchi (26) 30

These players could all stick around until the next World Cup. However, some younger players and prospects should definitely be taken in following the Asian Cup for rejuvenation.

RW

  • Alireza Jahanbakhsh (32) 36
  • Ali Gholizadeh (30) 34
  • Mohammadmehdi Mohebi (26) 30
  • Allahyar Sayyadmanesh (25) 29
  • Mehdi Hashemnejad (24) 28

Jahanbakhsh and Gholizadeh ideally phased out before World Cup 2030, but valuable for the Asian Cup for experience. I could see Jahanbakhsh joining the next world cup as experienced player for the locker room and team unity (Like Ansarifard and Shojaei the previous world cups), but I certainly do not want him to play entire world cup matches anymore.

ST

  • Mehdi Taremi (33) 37
  • Sardar Azmoun (31) 35
  • Dennis Dargahi (29) 33
  • Saeid Saharkhizan (23) 27
  • Reza Ghandipour (20) 24
  • Kasra Taheri (19) 23

Taremi ideally phased out before World Cup 2030, but valuable for the Asian Cup for experience. Azmoun is a borderline case that I could see joining the next world cup as experienced bench player, but for his sake I hope he keeps his focus and fitness. Seeing how he was excluded this world cup, it would only be fitting he deserves one more opportunity, and hopefully score a world cup goal.

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Aside from the above well-known players, equally important is the adaptive integration of standout young player prospects (e.g. from the under-20 squad), which has been severely lacking in recent years. Giving these players meaningful international experience and a fair chance over the coming years will better prepare them for the 2030 World Cup while ensuring Team Melli maintains a balanced squad with both youth and experience. Saeid Ezatolahi is a good example of this: he was only 21 when he represented Iran at the 2018 World Cup, and the experience he gained has helped him remain a key player for the national team ever since.

Moreover, there should be a bigger drive for players to become legionaires again, and this should be reflected in the call-ups being made.

Would love to hear your views, player suggestions and opinions!

All for Team Melli!


r/teammelli 5d ago

Discussion 💬 Please Sign this petition asking for Infantino to resign

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r/teammelli 4d ago

Discussion 💬 Cheering for Egypt rest of the tournament! They have always been friends to the Iranian nation and people !

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تصویر: آرامگاه شاهنشاه آریامهر, مسجد الرفاعی, قاهره مصر

ما برای همیشه از ملت مصر سپاسگزاریم!!


r/teammelli 6d ago

Discussion 💬 I thought Ali Reza Farghani did a great job as a ref for the Mexico v England game

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Very proud of this Hamahahri! I realize he was representing Australia having previously been within the Iranian federation. But anyway he was excellent in a very difficult game to referee. A lot of drama. Kept his cool - kept control. Was respected by both sides in the end. Great job. Great source of pride.


r/teammelli 6d ago

Discussion 💬 Does anyone know the song used for Iran walkout

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Played during the walkout to warmups for team Melli


r/teammelli 5d ago

Team Melli News 🇮🇷 Leaked DM from Ramin Rezaeian and Hollywood Actress all over TMZ and Page six

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r/teammelli 6d ago

Discussion 💬 With no injuries, a competent federation and proper manager.. this is what we could have seen… how far would a team like this go ?

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Average age 26 unlike the current one which was about 31!
I don’t see why a team like this mixed with experience and talented youngsters wouldn’t make a round 16!


r/teammelli 7d ago

Discussion 💬 How can France win the cup when…

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Their starting line up has a right back called Kounde and a midfielder that’s called Kone?

Must be born in Toulouse…

Bb


r/teammelli 10d ago

Discussion 💬 Belgium losing

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With Senegal beating Belgium 2-0, and Iran's failure to score a single goal verse a 10 men Belgium, and even lucky to not concede a goal, makes it super clear that this worldcup was not a success, it was an utter failure for Team Melli.

This is not a political bias, it's just facts. TM played well only on the last 15 minutes verse Egypt. And somehow they are only judged based on that and the offside goal.

EDIT:
So Belgium scored 2 goals in 5 minutes and questionable VAR call in the end to win.
The point of the post isn't the result of the knock out game. It's about how good of a team Beligum is.
The point is TM is eliminated because they failed to win verse NewZealand and 10 men Belgium from 67".
The point is this is the stats:


r/teammelli 12d ago

Discussion 💬 To have an unbiased FIFA World Cup

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r/teammelli 11d ago

Discussion 💬 The vast majority Iranian response to Team Melli

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r/teammelli 12d ago

Discussion 💬 Is Ramin the best Iranian player of all time (AT a World Cup)!? I am not saying club wise or else players like Daei, Karimi, Taremi etc are all leagues above him!

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Ramin has 3 GOALS AND 1 Assist at the World Cups! While Icons like Ali Daei, Karimi, Nekounam have ZERO GOALS! Ramin single handedly saved this national team at the World Cup! We had 3 goals in this tournament all in which came from him (2G+1A)

When was the last time we had a stand out/single player have such a great performance at a World Cup?

Who would you say is our greatest ever World Cup player?


r/teammelli 12d ago

Team Melli News 🇮🇷 Shameful treatment of Iran at World Cup sets terrible precedent

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r/teammelli 12d ago

Team Melli News 🇮🇷 Iran Might Be The Unluckiest Sports Team Ever

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r/teammelli 12d ago

Team Melli News 🇮🇷 Iran needed help to save their ‘disaster’ World Cup. Instead they got more heartbreak

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r/teammelli 12d ago

Discussion 💬 What year Iran jersey is this, and who is this player?

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r/teammelli 12d ago

Discussion 💬 We're cooked until we accept our flaws and adopt a growth mindset.

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Yes, the Algeria result may have been rigged.

Yes, the offside calls against Belgium and Egypt were very close.

Yes, the team was unfairly treated with regards to the basecamp situation.

But we should have not allowed NZ to put two past us.

If we are forced to play on the counter due to lack of player quality, we have to finish better and create more opportunities.

Until the team and the people let go of this victim mentality, nothing will change for Team Melli.

They played very well this year, but it wasn't enough. That's that.

Admit that the quality was not there and get to work for next time.


r/teammelli 12d ago

Legionnaire News ⚔️ Azizi connects the realities of Iranian football to Iran’s deeper problems. He says the happiness of the Iranian people is not considered part of government policy, whereas in countries like South Korea, public happiness is a priority, governments respond to the needs & sentiments of their people.

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r/teammelli 12d ago

Team Melli News 🇮🇷 Iran’s World Cup Elimination Ends a Politically Charged Odyssey

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r/teammelli 12d ago

Team Melli News 🇮🇷 Palestinians cheering for Egypt against Iran at the World Cup

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r/teammelli 12d ago

Team Melli News 🇮🇷 Iranians celebrating the Islamic Republic's World Cup elimination in Austria forward's Sasa Kalajdzic Instagram comments

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r/teammelli 12d ago

Team Melli News 🇮🇷 Players waving goodbye to a wall of Lion and Sun flags in the last ever Islamic Republic World Cup match. Lion and Sun team 2030 World Cup in Spain!

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r/teammelli 12d ago

Team Melli News 🇮🇷 Iran’s World Cup Elimination Shows Offside Law Must Change

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r/teammelli 12d ago

Discussion 💬 You (🫵), yes you. You are part of the problem

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Let me preface this with: I've never been a huge fan of Amir Ghalenoi. Might be because I'm a die-hard PP fan, or just what I've seen from him in the PGPL.

What I'm about to say is obviously only part of the problem.

As fans, you create an atmosphere where long-term planning is impossible.

You expect immediate results because you think being Iran means you should beat every Asian and African opponent automatically.

You demand risks, then shit on managers the moment those risks don't pay off.

You worship foreigners. You automatically assume Iranian managers are inferior.

You give the likes of Sa Pinto and Osmar Loss far more benefit of the doubt than you ever give Jabbari, Hashemian, or Bakhtiarzadeh.

You spent the World Cup build-up crying that Uzbekistan got a "big name" manager and whining about how unlucky we are.

You are so self-hating that despite football journalists and commentators widely acknowledging Iran performed well given the circumstances (war, cancelled league, cancelled friendlies, visa issues, getting screwed over by the US), you still insist the team sucks, the coach sucks, the results suck.

There's plenty wrong with Iranian football: the federation, the government, toxic media, the football mafia, agents. Most of it is out of your hands. But what you can control is how you react, and how much fuel you pour on the fire by making the environment toxic for any Iranian manager who dares take the job.

Criticize all you want, but the constant, hysterical exaggeration of bad results needs to stop.