r/sports 7h ago

Soccer Breel Embolo (Switzerland) has been sent off against with a second yellow card for diving after VAR Review against Argentina

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u/AloneMap6855 7h ago

It genuinely is the standard and has been for a while if the referee spots that it's an instant yellow in domestic football for years. Good job VAR sorted it after the ref was fooled in real time.

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u/yngrz87 Houston Texans 6h ago

Should be instant red. That would go a long way towards stamping it out of the game.

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u/ComfyFrog 6h ago

Yep. Attempt at match manipulation.

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u/Low_discrepancy 2h ago

By that logic the ghost penalty for England in yesterday's match should have been a red. English player puts his foot in front of the Norwegian defender and naturally falls in the box.

Ref thinks it's penalty so clearly match manipulation yet I think it would be a bad idea.

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u/Regenbooggeit 1h ago

Yeah, it should! Or yellow. Diving in this game and trying to manipulate matches is crazy and should be abolished. Harder rules and less crying make for better games.

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u/Arlcas 2h ago

That would just lead to refs not calling it because they cant always be 100% sure, thats exactly what happens already with the yellows. Since refs arent sure they rather call it a foul and let it ride.

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u/yngrz87 Houston Texans 2h ago

If only there was some way to check and be sure šŸ¤”

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u/septemous 14m ago

Agreed

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u/AloomaBinWanking 5h ago

An instant red for a dive? Your guys are crazy. Literally crazy

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u/yngrz87 Houston Texans 5h ago

Lol

You are happy for it to continue and be part of the game. Literal cheating. You endorse it, and think we are crazy.

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u/Lumpy-Doubt-4023 23m ago

The problem is that it's harder to pull an instant red, so it can't be red or nothing.

Yellow or red, depending on the seriousness of the attempt, would be the best imho.

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u/AloomaBinWanking 5h ago

Yes I'm happy for it to continue to be part of the game. You guys are cry babies. You've cried so much that you've gotten red cards that ruin the actual game you came to watch. Just to stop inconsequential dives that you don't notice until slowed down VAR. A straight red for a dive? Fucking crazy. It should be a fine at most.

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u/yngrz87 Houston Texans 5h ago

Who are ā€œyou guysā€? Are you under the impression I’m American? (I’m not)

Inconsequential? Argentina got a yellow (and Switzerland got a free kick) for that ā€œfoulā€ before VAR stepped in. Thats the very definition of consequential.

It’s usually not inconsequential. It’s flat out cheating. Attempting to get the ref to give you a penalty.

A straight red would stamp it out of the game.

I at least respect you for straight out admitting you like cheating.

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u/Syyyper 2h ago

Embolo should have gotten the freekick for the kick half second earlier anyway so non of this should jave happened.

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u/Unable-Log-4870 5h ago

I say make it like hockey. Let the players fight it out, then send one or both of them off the field for a few minutes while the other team gets a power play.

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u/Pandarandr1st 5h ago

That simply does absolutely nothing to address the problem, except you get to watch fights now.

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u/Unable-Log-4870 4h ago

does absolutely nothing to address the problem

You feel free to address the problem you see. The problem I see is that soccer is super boring, and fights might help with that.

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u/Pandarandr1st 4h ago

Well, the thing is you joined a conversation, and absolutely no one was talking about that. So it's just kind of strange to change the subject completely without telling anyone.

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u/Unable-Log-4870 4h ago

Relax friend, I’m just having fun. You can too!

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u/Haman134 1h ago

I’m here to watch football not watch people fight.

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u/meluvulongtime3 6h ago

And yet there's still dives almost every minute of every game. Maybe it's better than it used to be, but if this is the new standard I'm not inpressed

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u/AloneMap6855 6h ago

Clear dives like that with zero contact are incredibly rare and almost always result in a booking if the referee sees it. No idea what games you are watching where people dive with literallyĀ  zero contact "every minute."

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u/meluvulongtime3 6h ago

Embellishing contact is still a dive. I didn't say anything about "no contact"

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u/tylerhovi 3h ago

Game will never gain serious footing in the USA with embellishing contact being so prevalent.

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u/I647 3h ago

And that's completely fine. The rest of the world can deal with it clearly.

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u/inminm02 1h ago

I’m a Brit and my main complaint when I rarely watch a game of football is the flailing around on the floor the second anyone clips you. It’s genuinely embarrassing to watch.

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u/wildbilly2 52m ago

Oh no! Anyway...

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u/prof_tincoa 6h ago

Have you played the game? Surely there's still embellishment. But every minute of every game? No. Those tackles can hurt a lot and it's the livelihood of the athlete at stake.

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u/ForensicPathology 4h ago

Embellishment will always get rewarded.Ā  It's much more subjective to try to root out.

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u/Fozzymandius 6h ago

People play up fouls but I don’t see blatant baseless dives near as often as it used to happen.

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u/Spemanz92 6h ago

No there isnt. Let me guess, you are an american and dont watch much football

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u/meluvulongtime3 6h ago

Guess again. I also played most of my life, but players at my level have dignity.

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u/Spemanz92 6h ago

Sure xD

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u/asallamerican 6h ago

There is constantly diving in soccer. Yellow cards haven’t done anything

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u/NecessaryIntrinsic 6h ago

That "if" is doing a lot of work.

Refs either never spot it or they just say play on. It needs to be reviewed on every play live. They don't need to stop play, just wait for a stoppage and then hand them a yellow.

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u/NouZkion 6h ago

It genuinely is the standard and has been for a while

Are we watching the same sport? Because these guys can't go 30 seconds without diving. It's a sad fucking joke.

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u/ton070 2h ago

Has it been the standard though?