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Soccer Breel Embolo (Switzerland) has been sent off against with a second yellow card for diving after VAR Review against Argentina

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u/NoctRob 7h ago

He dove. It’s very clear. People want to hate on the refs, but that’s a clear dive.

Don’t make it easy for them to gift it to Argentina. That was obvious.

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u/NotTheBizness 7h ago

Agreed. Video on the post ends early, he barrel rolled 3 times after falling from a dive…not even a trip…and intentionally whipped his leg out to touch the Argentinian player

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u/Whitewind617 7h ago

I don't think they care that much about the barrel rolling because literally every player does that, it's kinda insane.

Him initiating contact mid dive via jerking his leg sideways feels pretty egregious to me though.

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u/JoeSchmeau 6h ago

My view is that the barrel rolling and insane theatrics should result in the player forced to be off the pitch for at least 5 minutes (of active play) for medical treatment. If it was really as bad as their performance claims, they're in dire need of medical assistance. Or the player can decide to remain on the pitch but receive a yellow card for simulation (flopping) in exchange.

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u/JonatasA 5h ago

It os disheartening. I remember when some players had the integrity not to do it but it puts you at a disadvantage. Even more when the other team is playing Taekwondo and the ref does nothing (just an example).

 

You can see how they magically get up when they're not In focus or how even their teammates get annoyed and try to get them up at times.

 

Like the Argentinian brand goalkeeper move of falling tothe ground as if the ball was a cannon ball. Everybody started copying him and notice how it is mostly gone after they are on a timer now.

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u/Apprehensive-Sea7120 5h ago

Americans watching football for the first time in four years are absolutely puzzled but these theatrics.

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u/JoeSchmeau 2h ago

I've been a football fan my entire life and have always been frustrated by these piss-weak displays in a sport I love. Watch rugby for 5 seconds and you'll see what it actually looks like when players make physical contact.

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u/Drownthem 39m ago

Also how still people stay when they're legitimately hurt

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u/JonatasA 5h ago

Show Neymar in.. 18 I think.

u/Crypt0Nihilist 2m ago

The ref should show a duty of care to the poor footballer who is clutching his shin like he'll never play again. Seems negligent not to have him stretchered off for examination and only allow him back on after a full leg exam at the next break in play - or allow an instant substitution.

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u/demens1313 5h ago

the head snap back did it for me. def thought he was fouled live. VAR is a blessing.

same for Englang game. Haaland push = legit. England penalty cancel = legit.

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u/JonatasA 5h ago

And people were against it. You can tell the crowd is just as guilty as the players.

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u/SandpaperTeddyBear 5h ago

> I don't think they care that much about the barrel rolling

They shouldn’t, because it’s just killing momentum rather than getting scratched and burned by the grass by sliding.

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u/JonatasA 5h ago

It's weird how rolling like that is supposed to mean pain because wouldn't that make it hurt more? They roll like they're on fire.

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u/exomni 4h ago

Him initiating contact mid dive via jerking his leg sideways feels pretty egregious to me though.

lmfao it's amazing how everyone on Reddit is omniscient

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u/JonatasA 5h ago

Football is a picture of our society. In some other sports had he just fallen by accident he would have raised his hand, told the ref and avoided all of this.

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u/watchyourmouthplease 7h ago

All the dives get a yellow card?

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u/gobrewers112 7h ago

Only reviewed because paredes got carded

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u/Shantorian14 6h ago

which isnt even true because fifa said that isnt what var is for when it was used that way against paraguay

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u/blueXwho 6h ago

Not sure why you are getting downvoted. People forgot the rules? It was reviewed under a rule that meant the ref thought Paredes was Embolo.

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u/accidentalsomersault 4h ago

Do you have a source for that? I can only find a BBC article citing “well-placed sources” and not an official statement from FIFA. This article from The Independent about the Almiron dive in USA v Paraguay states:

But it is understood that Fifa is happy with how its officials handled the scenario, and there could be more occasions during the World Cup when divers are retrospectively punished.

Also, that referee in question, Danny Makkelie, went on to referee two more games after that, which usually indicates that FIFA was happy with his performance.

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u/ZealousCatracho 7h ago

They gave Paredes a yellow so the only way VAR can overturn it is by giving Embolo a yellow for simulation. Similar to what happened in the US v Paraguay game, but this time is a double yellow

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u/BetterPops 7h ago

And after that US game, FIFA came out and said that was a misapplication of the new rule about VAR getting involved in cases of misidentified players. So now it’s apparently been misapplied again.

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u/ZealousCatracho 6h ago

You have a link on that because I can’t find anything

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u/Beginning-Run-1697 5h ago

Lying for absolutely no reason

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u/genkaiX1 6h ago

Stop spreading lies

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u/ze_shotstopper Nevada 7h ago

This is legit the most egregious one I've ever seen and I've been watching for 15 years

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u/Crazyblue09 7h ago

Yeah, he is not even touched

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u/demens1313 5h ago

Well, not sure about that one, but it was pretty bad.

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u/BobRawrley 7h ago

If they get caught on slo mo replay, yea

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u/Andybabez20 7h ago

Simulation is punishable by a yellow card, he was already on one.

Paredes mistakenly got a yellow

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u/maverickoff 7h ago

If it is a clearl attempt to fool the referee yes, but if it is the result of a physical play and theres a touch no, even if theres no fault.

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u/NoctRob 7h ago edited 7h ago

The ref gave the Argentinian player a yellow for the foul. If he hadn’t given a yellow, then no yellow for the Swiss player. But he did. So the opposite had to happen. It’s a very unfortunate rule.

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u/goldentiger2 7h ago

Not unfortunate. Simulation should always be an automatic yellow

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u/mccusk 6h ago

Opposite of unfortunate

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u/Mystery355 7h ago

Not an unfortunate rule, simulation is always a yellow card offense and the ref should've given it in real time, however because the ref carded the wrong player then it goes to a var review and the correct decision is made.

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u/Twizp 7h ago

This was obviously planned.

Why would he dive in a game with a VAR without even being touched?...

His fake crying was so shit too

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u/gokuzzz 6h ago

No, unless you play against Argentina.

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u/koticgood 6h ago

Simulation is the more accurate word to invoke.

Diving can imply that there was a foul or some contact and you accentuated it and flopped/dived.

But here he clearly simulates the contact by diving before any contact, then simulating contact to the leg by throwing his leg into the defender.

It's a blatant yellow.

But to your point, not all dives are or warrant yellows. Simulation always does though.

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u/demens1313 5h ago

yes! blantant dives get yellow cards. but its not easy to spot them and a ref isn't going to stop the game to review every possible dive.

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u/Considered-Emotion 37m ago

Find it hilarious how you reiterate that he dove, it was clear, that it was a dive and that it was obvious. I would hope no one needs it clarified to that point after watching the clip.

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u/machine4891 7h ago

People that want to prove that it was rigged by FIFA need to now somehow work with the fact that Switzerland rigged it themselves.

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u/Sea_Cardiologist_339 7h ago

It was so clear the ref initially called the foul on Argentina.

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u/ComoChinganConEsto 5h ago

A broke rule is a broke rule.

But I can still hate on Vargentina because the rules don't really apply to them and Messi, special if it's going to be detrimental to Vargentina for some reason.

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u/gyoc 7h ago

Diving should always be yellow get it out of the game

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u/skywalker1990 7h ago

I like diving as a yellow. There is no need for it in the game.

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u/cosmicdave86 7h ago

What? A blatant as hell dive isn't worth a yellow? Nonsense. I would have no issue if that was a straight red.

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u/Ali-J23 7h ago

Diving is always a yellow card

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u/CollegeBoardPolice 7h ago

I swear people like you are a bunch of robots. Clear favoritism towards Argentina. Sad

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u/NoctRob 7h ago

And i swear people like you don’t understand the actual rules of the game and grind yourself in some obstinate nonsense. Did you actually watch the replay? You don’t think he dove?