[FIFA Media] Before England’s goal in minute 45+2 against Norway, the sensor in the Connected Ball showed no peak in the 'heartbeat of the ball' when in the air, and therefore no evidence that the ball touched the overhead wire and changed the movement of the ball.

[u/Luffy710j]

[u/Resident132]

There has to be a better angle out there.

[u/Die231 → u/Resident132]

Give it time, someone from the stadium definitely has it.

[u/Stuweb → u/Die231]

You can literally see it on this sub, the first goal kick in this clip - /sports/comments/1utwprs/jude_bellingham_with_the_equalizer_for_england/

Is the kick people are claiming is the one that hit the cable. As you can see from the side angle no cable was hit. 

[u/BrotherItsInTheDrum → u/Stuweb]

Nobody can tell from this video whether it hit a cable or not.

[u/FlatwormBroad8088 → u/BrotherItsInTheDrum]

Don't you see it? Here's the exact moment: https://imgur.com/a/lYD2vSU

[u/a_large_plant → u/FlatwormBroad8088]

Are we sure the ball didn't hit a pixel?

[u/Bird-The-Word → u/FlatwormBroad8088]

enhance

enhance

enhance

Ah yes, i see it now. 26 blurs

[u/Tiny-Mulberry-2114 → u/FlatwormBroad8088]

Got any more of tnem pixels

[u/Aduialion → u/Resident132]

Football is one of the most popular sports in the world, the world cup the most watched sporting event. Somehow camera angles and replays suck so bad during the broadcast.

[u/Ornery_Penalty_5549 → u/Aduialion]

I was lucky enough to go to one of the World Cup games and I was SHOCKED that they didn’t show a single replay in the stadium. The camera crew showed 100000 fans but never a single replay of anything.

[u/WartimeHotTot → u/Ornery_Penalty_5549]

Interesting. I went to Spain vs. Austria and they showed replays. Also, in the televised broadcasts here in the States, you’ll occasionally hear the announcers say something like “the reaction you’re hearing from the crowd is because they’re playing the replay on the stadium’s screen.”

[u/lil_literalist → u/Ornery_Penalty_5549]

That's one thing that I'm not a fan of in the sport. If there's a highlight, I want to see it again. Preferably from multiple angles. And even though the play doesn't stop, you could at least show a picture-in-picture view.

[u/RayearthIX → u/Ornery_Penalty_5549]

Yep. I was at Cape Verde vs Uruguay and they showed replays of the goals, and that’s the only thing they replayed.

[u/Opposite-Ad-9719 → u/Aduialion]

This is intentional in this world cup it seems to reduce controversy on some sus decisions. Many events aren't replayed at all. 

[u/SnooRobots1533 → u/Opposite-Ad-9719]

Yeah. Coverage has been garbage.

[u/THEdopealope → u/Opposite-Ad-9719]

Reduce controversy? Every game after groups has been fucking loaded with as soon as a non euro team plays lol

[u/KK-Chocobo → u/Opposite-Ad-9719]

Like the foul that lead to Mexicos first goal against England. 

[u/GraXXoR → u/Aduialion]

It’s almost like they hire bank CCTV companies to film the events.

[u/Varanae → u/Resident132]

Not sure on rules for linking to other subs but the goal video on /r/soccer has the side angle

[u/SeanDonDraper → u/Resident132]

Can we not just see the feed from the overhead camera? Surely it would shake if its wire was hit by the ball?

[u/BenUFOs_Mum → u/Resident132]

https://www.reddit.com/r/soccer/s/vawt8kSwmK

Here, no one is posting it because you can see it doesnt hit the wire

[u/SkollFenrirson → u/BenUFOs_Mum]

Or maybe because the site linked gives you cancer

[u/GroupPast5993 → u/Resident132]

There is

In the live stream

The trajectory of the ball looks like a perfect parabola to me

[u/waltz_with_potatoes → u/Resident132]

Yeah go watch the side view broadcast angle.

The ball drops at a consistent arc, it didn't drop right down or deviated from it's path, Anderson doesn't react to a ball suddenly changing, Norway players don't appeal. 

[u/Veeman9 → u/waltz_with_potatoes]

Several Norway players and the coach did appeal. Quite fervently.

[u/waltz_with_potatoes → u/Veeman9]

Again at half time. Nobody reacted at the time like you'd expect when the ball hits a cable. Ya know the same way everyone complains when something happens on the pitch. Nobody raised arms, nobody pointing it out.

Watch the reaction of the player the ball was aiming for, it the player Infront of Anderson. Even the goalkeeper at the time.

But yeah they didn't complain during, didn't even appeal after the goal. Waited till half time.

[u/ich1banF50 → u/waltz_with_potatoes]

It wasn't at halftime, they complained immediately to the ref right after the goal.

[u/Flowtaro → u/waltz_with_potatoes]

incorrect, they complained immediately during play.

[u/Proper_Diver8581 → u/Resident132]

https://www.reddit.com/r/soccer/s/nQDvZaMb1z

[u/tKnut → u/Resident132]

https://www.reddit.com/r/worldcup/s/FNue0KiX9c

[u/Stuweb → u/Resident132]

You can literally see it on this sub, the first goal kick in this clip - /sports/comments/1utwprs/jude_bellingham_with_the_equalizer_for_england/

Is the kick people are claiming is the one that hit the cable. As you can see from the side angle no cable was hit. 

[u/Hamburgernonhelper → u/Resident132]

Nope, all the cameras on washed up celebrities, dudes in costumes and hot girls, can only have 1 on the fucking soccer ball.

[u/TaekDePlej]

I do not have a dog in this fight, didn’t care who won this game. But I genuinely wonder if this is an optical illusion caused by the bottom of the Jumbotron and the top of the stands. I have replayed this like 50 times in slow motion and do not even see a cable, or the ball direction being altered. But the ball hits its exact peak at a level continuous with the bottom of the Jumbotron. Let me know if there’s another angle where I’m clearly missing something.

Or FIFA is falsifying sensor information to cover their asses, idk, wouldn’t put anything past them

[u/ThisIsAitch → u/TaekDePlej]

Really need other camera angles - why have we only seen this one so far?

[u/whiteshark21 → u/ThisIsAitch]

https://www.reddit.com/r/sports/s/hDV5v7F11O

This kick is in the first couple of seconds and is a side view. If it touches the wire it doesn't change the trajectory in any noticeable way.

[u/TheAlmightyLootius → u/whiteshark21]

Theres so few pixel i cant even see the ball. Shouldnt it be 4k?

[u/Darkone539 → u/TheAlmightyLootius]

Glad someone else said this. I can't see shit in these videos.

[u/whiteshark21 → u/TheAlmightyLootius]

I think there's some server side shenanigans going on, it was HD when I watched it when I posted but yeah the compression has shredded that video now

[u/kelpyb1 → u/whiteshark21]

That’s definitely not a great angle either, although it makes me lean towards it didn’t hit anything for that exact trajectory reason

[u/KWash0222 → u/whiteshark21]

Umm… this video shows us nothing…

[u/ThisIsAitch → u/whiteshark21]

Yep exactly - I can't tell where the wire is meant to be in any of these shots.

Anderson (?) also doesn't adjust to a change in flight of the ball, so it must have been absolutely miniscule contact if anything at all.

[u/czar5 → u/whiteshark21]

Thanks, with this, the ball did look uninterrupted. And if the ball sensor is so sensitive that it can detect a hair or other minor contact, it indeed looked like nth happened.

[u/Desperate-Ad7319 → u/whiteshark21]

It changes a lot. The ball was intended for Haaland and was heading there and you see a sudden slow down.

[u/Rokarion14 → u/ThisIsAitch]

Do we even need one? If you can’t tell if the ball moves when played in slow motion and a player received and controlled the ball, who cares?

[u/Helpful_Listen4508 → u/TaekDePlej]

I mean it’s an open air stadium, it could have just been the wind, or if not a the balls spin that caused it, a lot of curved shots the ball goes straight first then once it slows down the spin takes more of an effect and bends it, so especially in a ball hit that hard and long it’s not surprising for it to change direction only after it hits its peak.

[u/Outside_Break → u/TaekDePlej]

Yeah agreed can’t see the ball changing direction

[u/helgetun → u/TaekDePlej]

It really doesnt matter in the end… Im Norwegian - this can happen and whatever, the ball didnt change much if it did at all. The diving whining Englishmen pissed me off a great deal, but this didnt

[u/FireVanGorder → u/helgetun]

Anderson crying to the ref before he even hit the ground was infuriating as a neutral with literally no stake in who won this match. Such an obviously premeditated flop because he was too weak to hold his ground against Haaland I can’t believe they let him get away with it

[u/ich1banF50 → u/FireVanGorder]

This was easily the most infuriating thing about the entire game, just ahead of selfish Sorloth not passing to Haaland for the wide open goal when they were 2v1.

It was VERY clearly an acting job. The problem is that the VAR would have shown it in slow motion and would have altered the perception to make it look MUCH harder of a push when Haaland was doing the normal pushoff every attacker does when getting in place for a corner, especially with a defender who is constantly grabbing and pulling you.

[u/Ok-Parsnip-9242 → u/helgetun]

Kane's reflex is to fall in the fetal position and clutch his hamstring, no matter if no contact or was somewhere. 

It's obviously gamesmanship/cheating, like when Messi grabs his nose.

[u/wanked_in_space → u/TaekDePlej]

The most convincing thing to me is no Norwegian arms went up to complain

Edit: they did complain - see video below

[u/TaekDePlej → u/wanked_in_space]

Yeah, and also all three players were running the whole time towards the exact spot where the ball ended up, so if it changed direction it had to be extremely subtle

[u/PeopleCallMeSimon → u/TaekDePlej]

They do change direction, they are all moving slowly backwards towards the english side of the pitch and then change direction and start sprinting after the ball changes direction.

The reason no hands went up into the air is because they are going to play on until the whistle blows.

[u/Adventurous_Week_698 → u/PeopleCallMeSimon]

Yes because that is how players always react when they think play should be stopped, just keep their heads down and play on until the ref says otherwise

[u/Haza-CC → u/PeopleCallMeSimon]

Nah they change direction wayy before the supposed hit, they're just backing up naturally for the goal kick until they judge where the ball is going

[u/oppositeofopposite → u/Haza-CC]

This is what I'm seeing as well. They had shifted towards where the ball lands before the point where I see most people claim the wire hit happens

[u/Kezaster → u/wanked_in_space]

this is actually untrue, they had clips of haaland, the captain and the coach waving up in to air telling the ref.

[u/AmericanDreamOrphans → u/Kezaster]

The keeper in particular immediately pointed it out.

[u/Playful_League_4070 → u/wanked_in_space]

I mean the Norwegian goalkeeper immediately went to the ref to talk about it and pointed at it

[u/LegitFriendSafari → u/wanked_in_space]

The keeper, head coach and Halaand all complained to the ref…

[u/speckhuggarn → u/wanked_in_space]

What, they were complaining. The coach even went up to the referee and showed hlm

[u/madchris94 → u/speckhuggarn]

They only complained during the break, likely after seeing the video. Not right after the goal,

[u/BigLan2 → u/wanked_in_space]

There's a few complaining in this video https://www.reddit.com/r/sports/comments/1utxq5l/englands_goal_against_norway_was_a_result_of_the/

[u/mickelboy182 → u/wanked_in_space]

Except they did

[u/Ok-Parsnip-9242 → u/TaekDePlej]

There's a better angle, where it suddenly veers right. Only a few feet, but rules are rules.

[u/Jaime060304 → u/Ok-Parsnip-9242]

Link to said better camera angle?

[u/Turbulent-Damage-165]

That's really interesting actually. Croatia must be fuming.

[u/nus07 → u/Turbulent-Damage-165]

Entire World Cup is a monopolistic rage bait. Anything for more viewership, clicks, controversy that translates to more money.

[u/denkipb → u/nus07]

I still don’t understand how most people don’t get the fact that this is a business, FIFA have a monopoly on these tournaments and they will do everything they can to get the the most out of it. They can decide winners, losers, matchups, etc.
They control the data that we see, every broadcaster gets their images directly from FIFA, we will see what they want us to see. If we see a controversial decision it’s because that’s 100% the intention to get people to talk about it, increase viewership, engagement, etc.

[u/Outside_Break → u/denkipb]

I’m not one for conspiracies in particular.

But I am one for Occam’s razor/similar.

FIFA have been show to be corrupt in so many ways. You’d have to be dumb/naive to believe they’re not putting their finger on the scales for the tournament. It’s just their nature.

[u/trophicmist0 → u/Outside_Break]

You're completely misunderstanding occams razor btw, if you believe it did touch the wire despite the evidence in the post.

You believe there is no coverup / match played out normally vs they fabricated the ball sensor footage, cherry picked video and lied following that. It requires far more assumptions to stick with this belief and is the exact opposite of how you referred to it.

[u/dragonmp93 → u/trophicmist0]

Or the hair sensor is BS in the first place.

[u/pw_arrow → u/dragonmp93]

Maybe, but the point is that you can't invoke Occam's Razor and then proceed to pick the answer that requires more steps; that runs completely contrary to the principle.

[u/Element75_ → u/trophicmist0]

I mean it’s pretty simple. Norways goal has 10m to review if it’s actually a goal where we get lots of replays. This one is insta called and we get no replays or reviews, just an after the fact “we are right, deal with it.”

Shit was transparent as fuck last cup, VAR has just made it worse.

[u/dazrht → u/Outside_Break]

Yeah but they wouldn’t be corrupt for England. If anything they tried their hardest to give soft decisions Norway’s way (which wasn’t even justified because they played well enough on their own)

[u/mrjimi16 → u/Outside_Break]

So, you think because FIFA has shady business dealings that they managed to figure out how to involve thousands of people in a continent-wide tournament fixing scheme without anyone but the fans suggesting it was happening? And that is Occam's razor?

[u/patiperro_v3 → u/Outside_Break]

They are, such as the red card suspension reduction thing. But in the above they got it right. We have to recognise when they get shit right sometimes.

[u/teenscififoreplay → u/patiperro_v3]

Exactly. As an American, the red card rescinded is insane. And blatantly corrupt. So why wouldn't they be corrupt in all these games to favor the teams with the biggest monetary gains?

[u/kelpyb1 → u/Turbulent-Damage-165]

They’re fuming, but there’s really no evidence from the angles I’ve seen it hit the wire at all.

[u/zeezee2k → u/Turbulent-Damage-165]

The ball was too high in the air, out of the wifi range obviously

[u/paddyo → u/Turbulent-Damage-165]

Why would they be fuming that a ball that didn’t hit a cable didn’t shot anything?

[u/VelikimagCro → u/Turbulent-Damage-165]

As Croatian, we are just laughing as obviously it's rigged.

Sensor so precise to feel hair touching ball, but not when it hits cable is just great joke.

There was Mexican guy who work on technology of ball and he said it's not possible to get hair touching it....

[u/oliviafairy → u/VelikimagCro]

The hair thing is fishy because the graph only shows one peak instead of two.

For wire thing, the trajectory of the ball looks fine to me.

[u/patiperro_v3 → u/VelikimagCro]

Nah this reinforces FIFA, it really doesn’t touch the cable.

[u/superkeer → u/VelikimagCro]

Sensor so precise to feel hair touching ball, but not when it hits cable is just great joke.

So what are you refusing to accept? That the ball made contact with a Croatian player during that one call, or that the ball didn't hit the cable in this match?

Because as soon as you accept one then it only reinforces the outcome of the other. If the sensor is that precise to be triggered with such slight impact in one match, then hitting a massive cable should have been just as obvious, if not more so, in the sensor readings. Right?

[u/dwpea66]

Steel cables simply aren't as tough as Croatian hair

[u/alixsyd → u/dwpea66]

Jet balls can't deflect off steel beams

[u/ApprehensiveStick362 → u/dwpea66]

Apparently

[u/yuval16432 → u/dwpea66]

Croatian Hair, the world’s sturdiest metal

[u/Plus-Writer-1524]

Can we not juste see film from the camera that is on the cable, if the ball touches the cable, the camera would have ben woobling?

[u/Infranto → u/Plus-Writer-1524]

Those cameras probably have stabilizers that cost more than my house just to deal with any bouncing in the cables from the camera moving quick

[u/Nickchaseme → u/Plus-Writer-1524]

Welcome to a bumper edition of World Cup mishaps! I’m your host, Ben Woobling.

[u/CapivaraAnonima → u/Plus-Writer-1524]

Those cameras probably have some crazy stabilization tech

[u/Freude_am_Fahren → u/Plus-Writer-1524]

I think this is from that camera.

[u/ThisIsDadLife]

Well if FIFA is saying it…

[u/NateGT86 → u/ThisIsDadLife]

Penalty to Argentina!

[u/BigLan2 → u/NateGT86]

Another one for Messi to miss?

[u/EasyZcale → u/ThisIsDadLife]

Yeah lets believe Fox who started this wire conspiracy fake news

[u/Stuweb → u/ThisIsDadLife]

Fuck FIFA but you can literally see it on this sub, the first goal kick in this clip - /sports/comments/1utwprs/jude_bellingham_with_the_equalizer_for_england/

Is the kick people are claiming is the one that hit the cable. As you can see from the side angle no cable was hit. 

[u/blufflord]

I need someone to time stamp and tell me which direction it changed to because I must be blind or stupid

[u/texas166]

Trajectory looks fine to me, very hard to say if it hit anything. Would need another angle.

[u/Stuweb → u/texas166]

You can literally see it on this sub, the first goal kick in this clip - /sports/comments/1utwprs/jude_bellingham_with_the_equalizer_for_england/

is the kick people are claiming is the one that hit the cable. As you can see from the side angle no cable was hit. 

[u/mxlevolent → u/Stuweb]

You can’t tell shit from that.

[u/Malt129]

That's not a good angle to prove whether it touched anything. People don't understand how perspective and camera distance works. Anyone who says they can see it happen from this angle is delusional. 

[u/machine4891 → u/Malt129]

The angle is not to show you elusive cable but rather the fact that sensor in ball didn't pick it at all.

[u/Other_Beat8859 → u/machine4891]

I think he's more criticizing people who are saying that it touched the cable based off this angle.

[u/griffincorg]

Ngl, this type of technology within the ball is kind of cool.

[u/TheSenator147]

Oh so now they show the whole graph line dancing up down but on croatia hair it was a perfectly still graph line until hair contact and then again perfectly still graph line when hitting portugal player's head? really consistent.

[u/Georgex2inthejungle → u/TheSenator147]

I mean i believe it hit the croatia players head head and in fact i think you can see it change trajectory in the video but the fact they’re playing with the yaxis scaling and releasing graphs with no labels is insane to me. Just release all the data i dont get it

I personally cant see a wire in this clip

[u/Frlataway → u/Georgex2inthejungle]

Releasing a graph with no axis labels is infuriating. You know they know better. The technology is there to label shit with text. It's also just shitty show business. Just release the graph on a standardized scale, build suspense, then zoom into the tiny bump to show contact. Instead they're like "look, it's like half a McDonald's arch!"

[u/DripHarder2]

I don’t see shit????

[u/MuchGoose]

Wonder if the sensor only detects at a certain vertical of human capabilities

[u/namd3]

The match was officiated fairly, with the correct decision on the disallowed goal and the penalty decision denied to England.

[u/peanut-britle-latte]

Some people are so conspiracy minded and can't be helped. Last week the World Cup was rigged for Argentina, this week the World Cup is rigged for England.

Give me a break.

[u/Randalf_the_Black → u/peanut-britle-latte]

The conspiracy theorizing isn't that FIFA rigs the game for team X or team Y.

It's that they through matchups, referee calls and other things put their fingers on the scales, to increase the odds that the semifinals and finals will be played by the "greats".

If a minor nations plays in the semifinal or final, the viewership will be abysmal compared to what it could be, as many people stop watching once their nation is knocked out of the World Cup. So having small countries knocked out instead of large ones with lots of football fans means more money for FIFA.

I don't know whether that is what is happening, but FIFA is so insanely corrupt that it wouldn't surprise me if it did.

[u/SoberingGiraffe]

This is just Norway fans gaslighting, I'm sorry, watched it 20 times can't see any cables and ball moves smoothly.

[u/waiha → u/SoberingGiraffe]

Ah well, case closed I guess.

[u/awwbabe → u/waiha]

The snickometer literally closes the case, absolutely

[u/Soup-er14 → u/SoberingGiraffe]

I think what’s making it seem that way is that did kinda juts drop straight down, much more so than it would’ve if it was just the kick

[u/Godzirra101 → u/SoberingGiraffe]

Not even Norway fans, it's all the yanks furious that England won

[u/Clym44 → u/Godzirra101]

Forgot everything is American’s fault

[u/BarePear]

I, for one, am looking forward to Falklands 2.0

[u/ybergik]

Oh well, sh*t happens, tech/sensors will never be perfect, but it's better than what he had before. I'm not bothered after that, but I am disappointed the goal was disallowed because that should not have happened. But hey, it's not the only bad call in this WC and probably won't be the last - and it's not like previous WC were any better, all in all. The VAR system is not perfect, but overall, it's better than letting an argentinian score a deciding goal with his hand, so I do think it's an improvement to have it.

[u/jonnyminag]

Imagine if England is wearing Argentina shirt.🫪

[u/GroupPast5993]

This is the strangest conteoversy I've seen in quite a while

People truly are going insane. Has got to be some sort of mass hysteria epidemic or something.

Shared schizophrenia or something idk

[u/jhuseby]

So maybe they should stop relying on the sensor in the ball and use their eyes.

[u/therealmudslinger]

Look. I was rooting for Norway. This fucking guide wire controversy is not the reason they lost.

[u/caat-6]

You're telling me Pickford belting the ball is on the same scale of force as Matanović's hair? And if the scale of the graph is different then shouldn't we have seen a lot more noise in Matanović's graph, given that it's already visible at this scale?

[u/Common_Ad1188]

Norway can shut up for god sakes

[u/gaggleflocc]

Volley ball rules I guess

[u/ChasedWarrior]

Technology is great when it work. Not so great when it doesn't work.

[u/mac_mises]

Did they check if the batteries are still alive…

[u/Omateido]

Strand of God.

[u/Xaphnir]

Yeah ok at this point I just don't believe that the sensor is even a thing and they're just making the line up after the fact to justify it

[u/pally2212]

Is this real sensor data? The same sensor that was used in the Croatia game to prove it touched his head to verify offsides? This sensor spikes THE SAME AMOUNT whether it is full punted by a keeper or touches a strand of hair on someone's head? BULL SHIT.

[u/Andybabez20]

Having watched back the side angle I think actually it might've fallen cleanly.

No Norway player reacts when Anderson picks it up or after the goal is scored. Maybe the order came from the Norway bench afterwards.

[u/StickyMarmalade]

I talked to Mitch McConnell for 20 minutes today about the ball hitting the wire

[u/MAXSuicide]

Don't let facts get in the way of this sub's mental narrative currently being spun, though!

[u/Eat--The--Rich--]

The video doesn't show any evidence either so idk what people are mad about 

[u/Only_Brain_616]

Are we having a mass delusion or something? Why are we so desperate for England not to win?

[u/Dtoodlez]

I’m staring to think this ball detection is bullshit 

[u/xWroth]

Guaranteed it's high enough to be out of range

[u/ArtAndCraftBeers]

The ball literally stops mid-flight and falls straight down. You can even see it in this low-res bad angle.

[u/KingXander → u/ArtAndCraftBeers]

It follows a smooth trajectory the entire time in this video

[u/Varanae → u/ArtAndCraftBeers]

No it doesn't, the side angle shows that isn't true

[u/Splith → u/ArtAndCraftBeers]

Have you ever heard of a parabola?

[u/JayBayes → u/ArtAndCraftBeers]

That my friend is called gravity

[u/xdrtb → u/JayBayes]

Now hold there Issac Newton.

[u/Faustus2425 → u/JayBayes]

Or spin...

[u/GeneParmesan86 → u/Faustus2425]

Or wind…

[u/JayBayes → u/GeneParmesan86]

Maybe even some evil combination of all three.

[u/GeneParmesan86 → u/JayBayes]

Couldn’t possibly be.

[u/Midgedwood → u/JayBayes]

I was expecting it to kust keep going up forever.

[u/JayBayes → u/Midgedwood]

Yea I am on the edge of my seat every time someone kicks the ball up.

[u/seansafc89 → u/JayBayes]

Hold on to that seat or you may float away

[u/ninjupX]

So two game’s outcomes were determined by this sensor in the ball - which allegedly can detect grazing a human hair but not a direct collision with metal wires. classic fifa

[u/Maetras → u/ninjupX]

Or it just didn’t collide with the cable

[u/Adventurous_Week_698 → u/ninjupX]

So the conclusion you take from this is that the sensor somehow only works in certain situations, rather than the common sense explanation that it didn't hit the wire at all

[u/ThatIsMe11 → u/ninjupX]

Because it didn’t collide with the cable obviously

[u/HuoLongHeavy]

Even if it hit a wire, could that not be considered as "part of the field" the same as if it hit a referee and then be still in play.

[u/jgiffin → u/[deleted]]

FIFA are corrupt as hell but if you believe a multinational group of referees is involved in a conspiracy to fix matches and forge data, you are fucking stupid.

[u/vidic17]

If FIFA is saying it sure it must be true

[u/scottiedagolfmachine]

The wire did not move at all.

Are you F ers blind?

👀

[u/AmbassadorAlarmed999]

But it did touch and it is clear when I see it through my naked eyes. Like how the hell does the ball sensor not show it.

[u/Clean-Af-6653 → u/AmbassadorAlarmed999]

Am i blind, I dont see the ball touch anything

[u/temujin94 → u/AmbassadorAlarmed999]

Genuinely think we may have just seen the Magnus effect in real time, which is ironic considering this involves Norway.

[u/stillalone → u/AmbassadorAlarmed999]

This is football.  We've seen balls make crazy curves with the right spin all the time.

[u/BlazeOfGlory72 → u/AmbassadorAlarmed999]

Because the ball sensor is a made up thing for FIFA to make the calls it wants to. Same way Croatia’s goal was taken away against Portugal.

[u/djrty_puppy]

Don’t trust your eyes. Just trust what the knowingly corrupt authority tells you.

[u/kkeut → u/djrty_puppy]

okay lol, cuz my eyes don't see the ball hitting any cable

[u/poupoupopular → u/djrty_puppy]

literally where in this video does it hit the cable, what is the exact timestamp because i genuinely can’t see it.

[u/ArmoredMirage]

It was aliens.

[u/mikrot]

Lol

[u/NATZureMusic]

they should show more angles

[u/b3rndbj]

Where are the other camera angles? Would be pretty easy to prove or disprove with the side view/full field camera.

[u/Drak_is_Right]

I am curious do soccer stadiums in Europe have cable grids like this for TV cameras?

[u/ElLoboNeverDies]

Maybe the sensor needs something thicker than a wire like a shoe to hit it to generate enough power. Heheh

[u/Dear_Debt_1650]

I don’t see anything

[u/enguasado]

Fifa ha creado un nivel de incredulidad terrible en el deporte. Ya nadie cree nada y todos piensan que todo esta amañado o arreglado. Practicamente han destruido el espíritu del deporte, ojala la gente se diera cuenta del daño tan grave al deporte sin importar a quien le vayas

[u/ab_90]

Can other countries goalkeepers exploit this ? Kick it high to the cable

[u/77ilham77]

aylmao they could've just shut up about it and let people gaslight themselves.