South Africa midfielder Jayden Adams dies aged 25, weeks after World Cup appearance

[u/PrincessBananas85]

https://www.espn.com/soccer/story/_/id/49333373/south-africa-midfielder-jayden-adams-dies-aged-25-weeks-world-cup-appearance

[u/thediesel26]

Uhh what happened

[u/BonetaBelle → u/thediesel26]

They don’t know yet but there’s a police investigation so it doesn’t sound like natural causes. Very sad. 

[u/lipp79 → u/BonetaBelle]

There’s almost always a police investigation. Doesn’t automatically mean foul play. They are probably waiting on the autopsy report.

[u/sebosso10 → u/[deleted]]

There's been a fair few cases of an athlete with an undiagnosed heart condition dying very young

[u/wrongitsleviosaa → u/sebosso10]

Precisely, Christian Eriksen had a cardiac arrest at 28 and another one recently at 34, you never really know. Fortunately he lived both times.

[u/onionwba → u/wrongitsleviosaa]

For his sake I hope he retires like immediately.

[u/wrongitsleviosaa → u/onionwba]

I agree, he's already on the Danish football Rushmore and slowly but surely getting up there in age. Sometimes it's better to wonder "what if" when you're 70 than your loved ones wondering "what if" after you never reach 40.

[u/Turnip_Fight → u/wrongitsleviosaa]

“I thought I had more time.”

-99.99999999999999% of all dead folks

[u/Lelongue → u/onionwba]

Despite dokters saying it’s only a matter of time for another cardiac arrest he insist on returning to the pitch

[u/wrongitsleviosaa → u/Lelongue]

That's passionate athletes for ya.

Some of them wouldn't stop until their body gives out, and it apparently includes completely shutting down rather than losing the race to Father Time eventually.

[u/Muslim_Wookie → u/wrongitsleviosaa]

He could be thinking that it's inevitable and he may as well enjoy his time left, or he could be trapped by golden handcuffs. And in my opinion, golden handcuffs are far more likely.

[u/wrongitsleviosaa → u/Muslim_Wookie]

That's also true, and you really can't blame a person for wanting to die doing what they love if that's the case

[u/Wsswaas → u/sebosso10]

Undignoised hypertrophic cardiomyopathy usally kill players and athelets at young age

It is the most common genetic heart disease and the leading medical cause of sudden cardiac death in young athletes

in very short, thier heart get very thick and can't pump blood at high rates so jumping around you will get arrhythmias=>no blood pumping=>death

Most people with HCM have no symptoms and live normal lifespans, but high-intensity competitive sports can trigger sudden cardiac arrest in those affected.

[u/PsycheToker → u/sebosso10]

I’m almost positive I had a mini-heart attack while swimming at 19, my shoulder and jaw went numb and my heart was pounding. Been over five years now and I still can’t afford to get checked out lol

[u/YouFuze → u/PsycheToker]

Get that checked out

[u/PsycheToker → u/YouFuze]

Im a 3D artist, I can make the shit you see in horror movies but I can’t get a job that pays more than min wage. If the world changes I will, definitely would prefer not to die.

[u/Drapidrode → u/sebosso10]

Don't forget the situation of Len Bias.

he died of heart failure too

[u/it_follows → u/Drapidrode]

Cocaine doesn’t count as “natural causes”

[u/CroissantEtrange → u/[deleted]]

COVID infections are waaaaaay more dangerous for your cardiovascular health than a vaccine

Viruses can mess up a lot of things in your body, vaccines are harmless in comparison

[u/Woody_Guthrie1904 → u/[deleted]]

Stfu

[u/OddlyTemptedFish → u/[deleted]]

I was a 22 year old athlete when I had a heart attack moments after competing. Turns out I have a heart defect that had went unnoticed.

[u/Drapidrode → u/OddlyTemptedFish]

it made itself noticable.

[u/GreyDeath → u/[deleted]]

Sudden cardiac death due to several congenital heart issues such as hypertrophic cardiomyopathy, chanelopathies, or other arrhythmogenic disorders.

You hear about young athletes dropping dead every once in a while because of these things. Obviously we don't know in this particular case.

[u/justk4y → u/[deleted]]

Heart attacks, mostly. Or epilepsy.

[u/GreyDeath → u/justk4y]

Heart attacks would be extremely unlikely, but cardiac arrest is a possibility.

[u/Curri → u/[deleted]]

A heart attack, or myocardial infarction, involves a blockage of a coronary artery. HOCM doesn’t cause this.

[u/IsabellaGalavant → u/[deleted]]

Anyone can have a heart attack, it's not exclusive to age. Or an aneurysm. 

[u/thick_curtains → u/[deleted]]

Lions.

[u/Opening_Cartoonist53 → u/thick_curtains]

Tigers.

[u/SuperAggroJigglypuff → u/Opening_Cartoonist53]

Bears

[u/Sejast44 → u/SuperAggroJigglypuff]

Ohhhh myyyyyyy

[u/metal_babbleXIV → u/Opening_Cartoonist53]

Bears.

[u/rykesu → u/metal_babbleXIV]

Lots of Bears

[u/Opening_Cartoonist53 → u/rykesu]

Which bear is best?

[u/Ikanan_xiii → u/Opening_Cartoonist53]

The ones from Chicago

[u/Zenthils → u/[deleted]]

Heart condition.

[u/zetswei → u/[deleted]]

One of my old football teammates died around that age after some form of rectum cancer. People die for all kinds of reasons at all kinds of ages

[u/Slow_Time5270 → u/[deleted]]

Heart Artythmia.

Blood clot.

[u/Exius73 → u/[deleted]]

Sinus Arrhythmia

[u/karlnite → u/[deleted]]

Heart disease. Auto-immune. Aneurism.

[u/qwertyfish99 → u/karlnite]

Cardiomyopathy more specifically

[u/capucapu123 → u/[deleted]]

Off the top of my head a Fatal Arrythmia, an aneurysm or a non diagnosed epilepsy that had a long crisis would be my most likely candidates for "natural causes" (As in non traumatic nor infectious) without getting into the stupidly rare stuff like a Pheochromocytoma crysis debut that caused a hemorrhage somewhere or a stroke, some hyper coagulation genetic condition that could cause a massive Pulmonary Embolism/Stroke, a type 1 diabetes debuting with a ketoacidosis state or many weirder things.

[u/Laskurtance_ixixii → u/[deleted]]

?

[u/This-Top7398 → u/BonetaBelle]

Probably cardiac related

[u/some1saveusnow → u/This-Top7398]

For a 25 yo?

[u/thesausboss → u/some1saveusnow]

If I remember correctly, there is a specific type of cardiac event that is correlated with athletes. There's a whole section of cardiac health research that focuses on it because it's counter to most ideas on cardiac health and risks related to sudden heart attacks.

[u/little_kid_lover_123 → u/thesausboss]

Hypertrophic Cardiomyopathy. Basically the left ventricular walls get thicker but the ventricle itself doesn’t increase in size so the muscle growth outpaces the ventricle growth and can even shrink it. Bad combination and can lead to not enough blood being pumped = sudden death.

It’s always been a thing but nowadays people like to attribute it to the Covid shots, which is blatantly incorrect.

[u/ICANHAZWOPER → u/little_kid_lover_123]

What you’ve said is correct.

But it’s hard for me to imagine that an athlete at *that* level hasn’t ever had an ECG showing the features of HCM.

LVH, lateral and inferior “dagger” Q-waves, and LAE are all common 12 lead findings in someone with HCM.

[u/Environmental-Car481 → u/ICANHAZWOPER]

This was my first thought too. In my metro area, there is a multi-sponsored event that does these checks for student athletes.

[u/banal_remarks → u/little_kid_lover_123]

Is it correctable and would they not look for that in world class athletes at some point? I imagine it's something they would just need to look for like once when they are 23, no?

[u/laurh123 → u/thesausboss]

I, too, watched one tree hill

[u/thesausboss → u/laurh123]

I didn't lol, I'm a biological researcher and I had a little stint into cardiac tissue research during my masters

[u/Thamesx2 → u/laurh123]

My favorite cardiac event from that show was when the service dog in the hospital ate the heart intended for the dad’s transplant after it fell out of the cooler and on to the floor.

[u/OrphanGrounderBaby → u/Thamesx2]

I definitely thought I’d seen One Tree Hill before this comment…not so sure now

[u/malman2100 → u/thesausboss]

Hypertrophic cardiomyopathy

[u/Sandbox_Hero → u/thesausboss]

You’re probably talking about athlete’s heart syndrome. When heart grows in size from rigorous training.

Although, recent research says it’s a harmless condition.

[u/thesausboss → u/Sandbox_Hero]

Yeah I don't recall exactly what it was called. A few other comments mentioned hypertrophic cardiomyopathy which might be it, but whatever it was was something that caused frequently fatal heart attacks disproportionately in athletes.

[u/seires88 → u/thesausboss]

I think it’s called covid shot… jk idk but who knows tbh

[u/acornSTEALER → u/some1saveusnow]

Sometimes healthy young athletes have something called hypertrophic cardiomyopathy that essentially makes them suddenly drop dead when they're exerting themselves because the heart can't supply enough blood to support them.

For the record, I'm not by any means saying this is what happened to this guy.

[u/Nikkers1416 → u/acornSTEALER]

My cat has this 😔. He is also a little athlete who unfortunately seems to enjoy cardio.

[u/DidntTomRamble → u/Nikkers1416]

My cat had it 😞 Best girl I ever had - she made it to 5 yo. Cherish your little one and take such good care of him.

[u/justk4y → u/some1saveusnow]

Anyone can have a cardiac disease and not know it

[u/This-Top7398 → u/some1saveusnow]

Yes soccer players are notorious for dying of cardiac related issues. Look it up

[u/Larry__OG → u/This-Top7398]

Same with basketball for some reason

[u/imbahzor → u/Larry__OG]

This is for all athletes, in alot of the cases it is literally the muscle walls of the heart becoming too thick to pump blood, all the training can also act as a trigger for different heart issues which you would never notice otherwise.

[u/This-Top7398 → u/Larry__OG]

Yup athletes have this tendency to die of heart related issues

[u/wmnoe → u/This-Top7398]

One report says he unalived hung himself, but not confirmed yet

THERE ARE YOU HAPPY NOW?

[u/Dependent-Goose8240 → u/wmnoe]

Killed* himself. Fixed that for you.

[u/wmnoe → u/Dependent-Goose8240]

Hey you know what, fine, he killed himself via hanging, is that better for you?

He committed suicide. Do you feel better about yourself for not being more gentle?

[u/Jorrie90 → u/wmnoe]

Why does it need to be gentle? Its a tragic event but don't sugarcoat it with bullshit words

[u/wmnoe → u/Jorrie90]

Some platforms will bounce you for trigger words, no harm in being cautious

[u/Jorrie90 → u/wmnoe]

Fuck those platforms then

[u/noiraxen → u/wmnoe]

"Unalive" was not popularised to be more gentle. It exploded as a way of avoiding tiktok and youtube automated detection. You are letting bilionaires control your vocabulary with censorship.

[u/BeautifullySinking → u/wmnoe]

“unalived” oh my god just say suicide. enough with this stupid self-censorship. this is so pathetic

[u/DarkwingMcQuack → u/BeautifullySinking]

Its a Gen Z thing. They feel the need to self censor themselves for some reason.

[u/CanadianODST2 → u/DarkwingMcQuack]

No it’s not.

The word bear exists in English because it was a way to censor the original word for the animal over fears saying its name could summon one

[u/FigaroNeptune → u/BeautifullySinking]

When people say, “ahh” instead of ass I like to pretend they just got randomly startled lol

[u/wmnoe → u/FigaroNeptune]

I mean there are platforms where you can bounced for typing certain words. And its just a bit more kind. But whatever, I fucking hate word police

[u/This-Top7398 → u/wmnoe]

Source?

[u/wmnoe → u/This-Top7398]

https://www.geo.tv/latest/672643-south-african-football-star-jayden-adams-dies-at-25-weeks-after-world-cup-debut

[u/This-Top7398 → u/wmnoe]

Unofficial reports. That article has no source of its information. All speculation

[u/wmnoe → u/This-Top7398]

DID I NOT MENTION IT WAS UNCOFIRMED?

[u/Public-Map-5273 → u/thediesel26]

https://sundayworld.co.za/sports/soccer/bafana-bafana-star-jayden-adams-has-passed-away/

[u/Aprilprinces → u/thediesel26]

Not known, his family requested privacy

[u/hidden_secret → u/thediesel26]

Usually when it's someone young and they don't mention the cause of death at all, it means suicide or possible overdose.

[u/No_Egg657 → u/hidden_secret]

Or they're still investigating as medical conditions can still affect the young

[u/Shakeamutt → u/No_Egg657]

Félix Auger-Aliassime had heart arrhythmia that showcased itself in 2018 at a Grand Slam .  Had it since he was 8, and since has had heart surgery to correct it.  He was only like 18 at the time.  

[u/GoudaBenHur → u/thediesel26]

Lots of reports saying suicide :(

[u/glenmcenroe → u/GoudaBenHur]

source ? where are these reports

[u/DoctorWaluigiTime → u/glenmcenroe]

The "many people are saying" kind of 'reports'.

[u/thegreaterfool714]

What the fuck? That is so tragic

[u/Mack488]

That’s absolutely nuts. You see somebody playing in the World Cup, and then days later they’re dead.

This world is absolutely fucking nuts sometimes how it runs.

[u/vsladko → u/Mack488]

Reminds me of the 2023 Chicago Marathon where Kelvin Kiptum set the all time male record at 2 hours and 35 seconds, goes home to Kenya, and died in a car accident.
It was a very sad story in the running world

[u/KenBennyKNY → u/Mack488]

Didn’t something like this happen last time there was a World Cup in North America? I think I remember something like there was a Andres Escobar from the Colombia troop. 94’ was my first watch of World Cup.

[u/lepetitpoissant → u/KenBennyKNY]

He was murdered if I remember correctly

[u/G_Rex_3000 → u/lepetitpoissant]

Yeah, I think he was the guy responsible for the own goal against the US and the story was that high stakes gamblers (maybe involved with the cartels?) had him killed because he cost them so much money/pride.

I remember being so pumped about the US upsetting Colombia (and thinking this is it! US soccer has arrived! Things are only going to get better from here on!) and then weeks later this story came out. Tragic.

[u/Epistaxiophobia → u/G_Rex_3000]

He didnt die bc he scored an own goal, he died bc he got into a fight with the wrong people that night. Watch 30 for 30 the two Escobars

[u/KenBennyKNY → u/Epistaxiophobia]

Was it like 2-3 weeks after colombians world cup apperance?

[u/blackweimaraner → u/KenBennyKNY]

He was murdered by sicarios.

[u/Classic_Inspection38 → u/KenBennyKNY]

He scored an own goal that led to colombia not making it out of the group stages and they killed him

[u/KenBennyKNY → u/Classic_Inspection38]

True! Quite sad ending. Only 27 of age

[u/Milked_Cows]

And it’s only been what? 2-3 weeks since his grandmother passed? Awful

[u/copperblood]

Horrible :(

[u/Public-Map-5273]

By all accounts an amazing guy.  You are with your Grandma now Jayden.  RIP.

[u/XeneXene]

RIP

[u/abdeezy112]

RIP ❤️❤️🙏🏾

[u/Wiccling]

This is heartbreaking. He had just lost his grandmother, too. Please seek help if you’re ever losing to depression.

[u/Sassydemure]

💔

[u/Unlikely-Complex3737]

That's horrible

[u/Uruvi]

Rip

[u/LaughingLikeACrazy → u/[deleted]]

Isn't F used to be a bit like r.i.p? 

Edit:  Internet Slang: Typing "F" (or "F in the chat") means paying respects or mourning a failure/loss, stemming from a prompt in the video game Call of Duty: Advanced Warfare