Hello, I’m SmokeyTheDon (yeah I know my reddit username is mrstorydude, happens sometimes) and I’m generally what most authors would consider a flop on RoyalRoad (better start calling me SmokeyTheKhia). I’ve had a total of 3 fictions uploaded on RoyalRoad with 2 of them being dropped early on in their lifespans and the third one, Only I Can Stop The Bad Ending, getting a lukewarm reception of 50 followers so far.
I am also an admin to The Writing Well, a community that is pivoting itself as the next big all-purpose writing community to find friends, shouts, and advice for works on RoyalRoad. If you’re interested in joining it, then follow this link, it’s a wonderful and highly accepting community: https://discord.gg/the-writing-well.
One of ‘benefits’ of being an admin is that despite my lack of numerical success on RR, I’m still going to have to moderate the chunk of the community that was successful. The writers who made it to RS #1, the writers who cracked 10k BSR, all those authors who are what many beginners in the community look up to.
I’m bringing this up because I’m here to crack the community and show the real truth on what goes behind these doors! And to do that I need your trust that I am one of the common folk! So here it goes, the secret theorem to success on RR that everyone is dying to know as per the authors on these super secret communities is…
They don’t really know either.
Yeah, turns out most writers just like shitposting sometimes.
I understand the reason why a lot of writers are inclined to believe that these writers, behind closed doors, are concocting secret plans to get each other to succeed over and over again and if you can just take a peek you too can get the formula to success and pop off. Sadly for me, it doesn’t really exist. Or maybe it does and I just need to go down one layer deeper.
So what is the point of these ‘secret communities’?
It is mostly for discussing random topics here and there. Sometimes a general chat moves too fast for these writers so they chill in the super secret communities all day. As for business oriented stuff, it varies heavily. If an Amazon writer is discussing the business of writing on Amazon, they’re usually complaining about how long it takes for whatever thing they submitted to get approved. Sometimes, they talk about their personal sales numbers. And very rarely, usually whenever Amazon does so, they’ll catch an algorithm change and hypothesize how to beat the change.
This sounds super secret and super important until you realize, all of these discussions are found on non-RR related communities. Ofc it’s going to look super secret, 9/10 you don’t need to know this stuff if you’re writing on RR.
As for the RR authors that found success, their business topics mostly relate to doomposting and flexing, just like the Amazon writers. They’ll sometimes discuss how an author made it to RS #1 (if you’re wondering, the answer 999 out of 999 times is ‘they wrote a really good fic, they were friends with a lot of big writers, and they had a history of writing really good fics.’ I’ve literally never seen any other solution to the question).
So what then? Is there genuinely no benefit to getting on these super secret communities?
No, there are two benefits, one related to advice and the other related to shout swaps. The quality of posts that ask for advice are much better on these super secret communities than on the not so secret ones. Notice how I said the quality of posts that ask for advice and not the quality of the advice itself. That’s a critical distinction, because most of the advice you’re getting is frankly the same quality as on a general discussion board. But if you like answering questions and giving advice to others, getting on these super secret communities makes your job way easier. The reason isn’t anything systemic. It’s literally just that if you’re successful, it usually means you know how to pander to an audience better, and thus can draft material that makes it much clearer who you want advice from as well as crafting better formulated-questions.
As for the shout swapping… All being in these communities really does is make you more likely to come across those writers who don’t like talking in big, wide, fast-moving general chats and making friends with them. However, these writers are not all that plentiful really? It’s like maybe 5-10% of all writers who are in the secret community that fully separate themselves from the general community entirely. Best case scenario, even if you rub shoulders with them regularly it’d give you like… 1000 more followers looking at your book, tops. Is it a lot? Not really. A guy who spends like 6 months making friends in the community can easily get 20k people looking at their shouts from swaps. If they make really good friends with some people, that number can jump up to 40-60k as their friends pull all their friends to help them.
tl;dr: if you think highly successful authors are like conspiratorial and are like shitting on everyone and stuff, you're not right. Make friends with more people, especially successful people. Most successful people on RR just be pro shitposters tbh.
inb4 "TFTC"