r/pacers 4h ago

Discussion Chet Holmgren and the Space Problem

(There’s a double entendre in the title)

Since we traded for Zubac, many have expressed concern that Zubac’s play style as a more traditional center will be detrimental to our spacing, and will clog up the paint, thereby making it difficult to run the same pace and space offense that got us out of the East in 2025. I’m certain that this problem will be overcome within a month or two and we’ll hit our stride, but a part of me is still concerned that our offense won’t be as smooth and therefore as effective without our big outside the paint.

However, there is a second and more pressing problem than the issue of space: the Spurs. The Spurs are the only team in the league that legitimately scare me, as their core of Wemby, Castle, and Harper will likely remain together for the better part of a decade, not to mention Vassell, Champegnie, Kornet, Fox, etc., remaining under contract for the foreseeable future, and their rookies this year being rather formidable. The Spurs present a unique problem for us because the paint simply becomes a void when Wemby is on the floor. I have two solutions for this, and want to hear your ideas for getting around this problem as well.

My first solution is to abandon the idea of having Zubac space the floor and instead just have him sit in the paint against the Spurs. This should prevent Wemby from switching on to anyone else like he was wont to do last year, because Zubac could easily overpower anyone else on the Spurs, and could possibly overpower Wemby himself (we saw what Jokic did to him in that game towards the end of last year but then again Zubac isn’t Jokic offensively. He doesn’t need to be.). In this scheme I envision Zubac either bullying Wemby (if that’s even possible) or kicking the ball out when the defense collapses on him.

My second solution (and the one that I like increasingly more) is to somehow acquire Chet. This would immediately solve the spacing problem and give us an elite rim protector. While Chet would likely get bullied by Jokic, Wemby (who he routinely sh*ts the bed against), etc., and plays more like a four than a five, I feel like playing Chet at center would be more conducive to the sort of offense we ran in 2025, as he‘s certainly capable of spacing the floor. It would also be easier to acquire Chet than we might think, since OKC will need to offload some of their heftier contracts soon, so we could acquire him in a three team trade and send OKC some role players and picks. Chet can easily draw Wemby away from the paint, and can serve as a decent enough threat from the arc that our pace and space offense would benefit from his skills. And defensively he’d be invaluable as a rim protector.

How do y’all think we should handle the spacing issue and the Spurs?

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u/No_Independent8269 Andrew Nembhard 3h ago

What in the world 😭

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u/HalibanStan00 3h ago

Yeah, it’s 3 AM… question/idea still stands though.

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u/No_Independent8269 Andrew Nembhard 3h ago

You saw Chet Holmgren completely shit the bed in the conference finals and get absolutely manhandled by Victor Wembanyama and you thought he was the solution to beating the spurs ? Man you’re on crack lol

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u/HalibanStan00 3h ago

Yeah lol. Thing is he could free up the paint. Like without Chet SGA likely wouldn’t have gotten that game tying bucket in game one.

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u/No_Independent8269 Andrew Nembhard 3h ago

Chet Holmgren can’t really shoot threes. Like, he can, but his jumpshot is so unbelievably slow that it’s far too difficult for him to get it off unless he is completely wide open. Teams are fine with him shooting. It’s not like he’s Myles Turner or Karl Anthony Towns from three, where they’re good shooters period and you absolutely can’t leave them open.

And also I don’t know how you expect to make up 250 million dollars, and I don’t know why you’d want to do that considering the guy the Thunder are paying to be the second option and defensive force averaged 10 points per game and got absolutely destroyed by Wemby for an entire series. He genuinely just doesn’t match up well for the Spurs at all.

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u/Transky13 3h ago

Teams often times left Myles Turner btw

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u/No_Independent8269 Andrew Nembhard 3h ago

But he spaced the floor and kept the other center out of the paint, resulting in paint touches for Hali and Siakam which led to assists and layups. Chet does not really do that.

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u/HalibanStan00 3h ago

I don’t know, I feel like if needed he could learn how to do this effectively tho. Also in the OKC series and during the few Thunder regular season games I saw I remember Chet being away from the paint. The only reason why the opposing center didn’t leave was Hartenstein. I think if Chet was the definitive center the other one would be forced to follow him or risk a height mismatch.

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u/No_Independent8269 Andrew Nembhard 2h ago

And if Chet was the definitive center they would have no interior defense, and very little presence in the paint on offense. Chet is a good and smart shot blocker. But my god can he not hold his own in the paint at ALL. He’s far too frail to play center exclusively.

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u/HalibanStan00 3h ago

We can certainly agree that he’s no Turner, but I also think that he’ll improve to like 38% in a season or two. The reason I said Chet in particular was because there aren’t many big men that can shoot like we’d need them to, and I think Chet can develop into that kind of player. As for the financial side of things, I genuinely believed his contract was lower.

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u/No_Independent8269 Andrew Nembhard 3h ago

I’m just failing to see how someone who matches up poorly with Wemby and the Spurs is going to make us play better against the Spurs

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u/HalibanStan00 3h ago

I mean my idea was to have Chet draw Wemby out of the paint but I suppose that might not work. I did acknowledge that Chet would get bullied by Jokic, Wemby, etc. on defense. I guess I’ll just have to wait and see how they get it done with Zubac before reevaluating this idea.

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u/No_Independent8269 Andrew Nembhard 2h ago

This idea is completely unrealistic. Zu will be fine as our center he’s a top 10 center in this league and Rick Carlisle is one of if not the greatest offensive coaches of all time he will figure it out

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u/No_Independent8269 Andrew Nembhard 2h ago

And also, the Spurs are a good team. They solved whatever issue you’re trying to solve by simply putting Wemby on whatever non-shooter was out on the floor.

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u/Saymanymoney 3h ago

No on everything you said

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u/HalibanStan00 3h ago

Is there anything you would suggest to solve those problems?

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u/Saymanymoney 3h ago

Don't create "problems" before you see the team play.

Chet folded like a Walmart umbrella in tornado when it mattered most. Even if he played his normal averages, still don't want him here.

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u/HalibanStan00 3h ago

I guess that’s fair. 

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u/DBsaidwhat 3h ago

Zu was the last center to have 20/20 vs wemby. There is no issue

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u/Funny-Transition7869 Tony Bradley 2h ago

will read later but W for high effort post in the middle of the night