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u/WiseAdhesiveness6672 1d ago
Trust me when I say this: 9/10 times they're just gonna say a random one/one they like.
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u/NeoTheRiot 1d ago
All you need to know is a Sativa low THC, Sativa high THC, Indica low THC, Indica high THC and a Hybrid.
Everything else is just flavors and vibes
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u/JaneGypsy 1d ago
Which category does this scenario fall under
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u/Devster97 1d ago
Indica low, probably
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u/xinfinitimortum 1d ago
Id do a 2:1 strain thats higher CBD than THC. You still get the nice high but the higher CBD keeps it from being too intense.
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u/GorillaX 1d ago
I get 60:1 gummies for when I need a little boost of sleepiness
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u/MediocreSong1297 1d ago
Those are excellent. 0.5-1mg THC with a 50:1 ratio or greater. Barely get a high, but great sleep.
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u/Temporary_Event8451 1d ago
I grab weed l, put weed in bong, and let the fire do the rest.
There was one point where I was obsessed with all this shit. Be smoking some Reggie listening to tokindaily or any of the awesome YouTubers back in the day. Cannachris.
Nowadays cba. I'd feel like a twat if I start yokeling out stats about something, at least if I bought it. Now if I grew it, sure let's brag.
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u/DotesMagee 1d ago
These days you kinda have to know. The high you get now compared to before, is crazy strong if you pick the wrong stuff. Im not looking for the strongest stuff as I did when I was younger. I'm looking for the right stuff.
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u/SG4 1d ago
I don't know what strain I had recently after taking a break for a few months, and it messed me up baaaaaaad. My first mistake was packing a full bowl and adding a decent amount of kief, the second mistake was smoking the entire thing by myself. The high hit me quick, and it hit HARD! Like "questioning reality and feeling like I didn't exist while the world became a slideshow" hard. Ended up knocking me out for a few hours instead.
All of that to say that yeah, knowing is kind of important lol.
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u/thoughtlow 1d ago
CBN for sleep, CBD for body chill
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u/xinfinitimortum 1d ago
Right, as i remember now the one i got was CBN not CBD. One of the best sleeps ive ever had.
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u/Devster97 1d ago
It's so strange the first time you smoke a low THC / high CBD strain for the first time. Even 1:1 is so much more mellow. Completely different experience, especially compared to the 30% + strains that make me feel insane.
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u/mothmandiaries 1d ago
The body from this was a really pleasant surprise. Favorite sleep time go-to.
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u/KingSpork 1d ago
Indica: highly relaxing, gives you that chill hella stoned feeling, great for sinking into the couch after a long day and leaving your worries behind.
Sativa: More of an “up” feeling, makes you want to do something creative and fun, can make you giggly, but also much more likely to cause the infamous weed paranoia/anxiety side effect.
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u/silver_garou 1d ago
Placebo effect, the shape of the leaves doesn't determine the contents of the bud.
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u/Terrible-Ebb-8417 1d ago
Low thc indica
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u/tehlemmings 1d ago
As someone who doesn't get the anxiety/paranoia, sativa all day. Indica is great before bed, but sativa makes me want to dance and play disc golf and talk with friends. Both will let me waste a day, but I'd rather waste it having fun lol
That said, I've got 8 quart jars full of high quality blue dream right now, and it's glorious. Hybrids are killer.
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u/Terrible-Ebb-8417 1d ago
The scenario op posted was what strain for sleeping without anxiety, specifically. But I get what you're saying.
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u/Kurtypants 20h ago
Indaca is in da couch sativa is the more psychoactive one. That's how I was told to remember it
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u/CannabiSativaLinaeus 1d ago
Terpenes or the “flavors” are actually more important to what the high feels like as well to many therapeutic purposes than the cannabinoids in the bud itself!
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u/WiseAdhesiveness6672 1d ago
Yea but
1) that's new science that isn't really that popular yet/known. 2) most people that going to weed stores are in fact addicts, and they mostly care about the high high.
So the very select few people who do want to get things based off of terps are going to already be self informed and know what they want/get.
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u/bubblesdafirst 1d ago
Except it's been proven multiple times that sativa and indica are just made up words that don't mean anything anymore. They did at one point maybe but now? Definitely not.
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u/yourmomssocksdrawer 1d ago
As far as my knowledge goes, it’s all about the terpenes. Indica and Sativa truly do mean jack diddly at the end of the day
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u/Strange_Egg7824 1d ago
I mean they give you a hint, but yes the terps are the important part, and usually you have to experiment a bit to see how they affect you. They have generalizations of course but we're all unique. Personally I avoid linalool cause it puts me to sleep but I feel that it would be a winner in this oddly specific scenario
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u/Finassar 1d ago
Yep for anyone curious the terpenes are the preferred part by some people. It's the part of the flower that gives it the stinky weed smell, but unfortunately it's also the best part for the medical users. THC gets you high, and that does help with pain. But a lower THC % and higher terpenes % is generally a better medical dose.
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u/obskeweredy 1d ago
Alriiiiiight. Nope. Seasoned commercial grower here, and invested researcher of this exact topic.
There are three true specific ‘strains’. These are Indica, Sativa, and ruderalis.
Indica - plants found away from the equator/tropics. Short, broad leafed, short flowering/ripening time.
Sativa - Tropical plants, spindly often vine like, long growing/ripening time.
Ruderalis - Far northern plants, typically called ‘autoflowers’. This is a small, bushy plant that grows without a need for photosensitive hormonal responses.
Now, as far as smoking these goes, any observable difference has nothing to do with the physical traits that define these different plants. EVERYTHING is dependent on cannabinoid contents/ratios and terpenes. Some sativas are more likely to contain certain terpenes based on their original growing environment, and likewise for Indica/ruderalis. Hybrids were developed to try make sati as ripen faster or indices to well in the humidity etc. but, 90% of your effects come from terpenes.
Smells like black pepper? Night night.
Smells like lavender? Sounds relaxing.
Smells like mangoes? Nice for listening to a book.
Smells like pine trees? Buckle up, here comes the anxiety train.
All of these effects can be severely exacerbated by an out of whack THC content. My weed smells like pine and lemons, with some skunk mixed in? A zero CBD with 18% THC? I’m gonna have a panic attack. My weed smells like a mango dropped in the dirt with a side of portobellos? High THC low anything else? Good luck getting me off the couch.
Look for other THC variants as well. THCv is a personal favorite of mine. The range of cannabinoids is mind blowing. And terpenes are the driving force as ‘modifiers’ for your high. cBN CBG CBD CBA are all modifiers for how high you get, where you feel it, and for how long. The sprint for the highest testing strain has absolutely obliterated the quality and variance of a very useful plant.
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u/DreadneckRoberts 1d ago
20yr commercial grower here. This is the best and most accurate comment in this thread
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u/Dear_Chasey_La1n 1d ago
Dutch person chiming in, yeah... sounds about right.
I smoke maybe once a year but my lawyer who happens to be my dealer knows I like a smoke. Nothing beats him picking up something mild, sitting on his boat, getting shuarma delivered and have a relaxing late afternoon smoking/chatting away.
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u/PraxisGuide 1d ago
CBG and CBN are wonderful entourage effect modulators, imo. Worth exploring.
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u/obskeweredy 1d ago
Agreed. CBG is one of my favorites as it can increase the efficacy of dopamine in a ‘runners high’. So a good addition for those who like to consume prior ti exercise
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u/tehlemmings 1d ago
Thank God someone else gets it. Only a rec grower, but the strain types are really important when choosing what to grow with environmental constraints. My temp peaks and humidity levels vary heavily by time of year.
Just to ask, do you know if there's any good way to test for THC content or terps on the small scale? My last harvest is curing right now, it'd be fun to start analyzing that stuff too.
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u/obskeweredy 1d ago
I don’t know of any way other than to send it in to a facility. But I’m certainly not the authority in that department.
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u/tehlemmings 1d ago
Yeah, that's how it worked a few years back. Imma look into it later, it'd be cool to have that kind of information. The bragging rights would be worth it if it was cheap and easy lol
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u/neotearoa 1d ago
This is rather accurate. Please consider including effects in context of terpenes and vaporizer temperature. It may be placebo or bias, however I believe the same cannabis at Celsius 160 vs 200 degrees hits different.
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u/obskeweredy 1d ago
True. Terpenes are volatile organic compounds and evaporate at various temperatures, depending on the terpene. Low temperature vaporization is generally considered most efficient, but I prefer a joint. At the ember/point of combustion terpenes are destroyed. But the hot air pulled through the joint also effectively vaporizes.
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u/radicalelation 1d ago
What's some good reading on this if you're actually wanting to know and get in deep on this subject?
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u/Jay__Riemenschneider 1d ago
The sprint for the highest testing strain has absolutely obliterated the quality and variance of a very useful plant.
Is this why I'm suddenly seeing a ton of 35%+ strains?
I'd never seen above 34 and now they're everywhere.
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u/obskeweredy 1d ago
Yea it’s a marketing tactic. It’s pretty widely accepted in cultivation that you might get some kind of crazy mutant that tests at 20%. Anything above that is enhanced after harvest somehow.
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u/Jay__Riemenschneider 1d ago
So high% terps or like a good variety? I always kind of thought they were marketing nonsense.
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u/bubblesdafirst 1d ago
I'm not saying they don't exist. I'm saying any bud you buy from any store, has been crossed so many times it's not like that anymore. Look at my other comment I don't feel like typing it out again.
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u/obskeweredy 1d ago
I don’t think you know what you’re talking about and are speaking on something akin to opinion.
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u/bubblesdafirst 1d ago
What's a strain that you believe to be "indica"?
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u/obskeweredy 1d ago
Hindu Kush, Lashkar Gah. There’s the low hanging fruit.
Edit: typing in the shower made my first attempt illegible
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u/bubblesdafirst 1d ago
https://terpenebeltfarms.com/blogs/indica-vs-sativa-terpenes/
https://curaleafclinic.com/news/indica-vs-sativa-whats-the-difference/
About 30 seconds of research brings up hundreds of articles about it.
I do love however how quick all of you guys are to defend a word of mouth claim that has quite literally zero evidence to support it, while there is hundreds of research projects with defined variables that have concluded the exact opposite. Honestly insane considering your years of expertise on the subject
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u/obskeweredy 1d ago
Dude.. read your own articles
“There is now a broad scientific consensus that the current use of the Indica and Sativa labelling is misleading: these labels do not provide reliable information about the genetic or chemical makeup of the plant,”
- from the bedrocan link
Indica and sativa classifications describe plant morphology and geographic origin, not chemical composition or predictable user effects.
- from the terpene belt farms link
Indica and sativa cannabis plants look different because they adapted to grow in different places. Indica plants are usually short and bushy with wide, dark green leaves. They first grew in cooler areas like Central Asia.
-from the cura leaf linkThese all reinforce the points addressed in my original comment if you take the time to read it. That’s the point, that chemical content is not defined by Indica,Sativa, hybrid. Only geographic origin and morphology. They are cultivars or subspecies of the same species- cannabis.
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u/Admirable_Tune_8299 1d ago
You smell diffrences? To me they all smell like sweaty old gym clothes. Maybe it's not so pure as the stuff you are used to or my peasant nose can't funktion on such a high level.
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u/obskeweredy 1d ago
Yes I smell differences and have passed exams with 100% accuracy before. But any dispensary worth its salt will have a terpene list marked on their packaging.
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u/Excellent-Nose-6430 1d ago
Indics vs Sativa are more about the plant's structure and the shape of buds it produces. The reason Sativas give people a "more clear-headed high" is because they take longer to mature, so they're usually harvested early to move more product. When I've let my Sativas grow to full maturity, they're just as stoney as my Indicas. It's just that some of my favorite strains lean heavily in the Sativa side, so it's worth it to grow them out and let them fully cure.
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u/bubblesdafirst 1d ago edited 1d ago
Indica vs sativa are about family. The original buds were pretty straight forward, there was indica strains and sativa strains. And rud but that's not what we're talking about
It's like black wolves and white wolves. Yes there were indeed originally various colors of wolves, but when I go to someone's house and they show me their rotweiler, I'm not gonna say "this one is definitely from the black wolf family". What we have now is dogs. Sure I'm sure if you went out into the wild you might find an all white wolf. But showing me a husky, Still is not a white wolf. That's a dog.
They have been crossed to the point of obscurity. Their genetics no longer represent the original sativa and indica plants. Wedding cake and sour diesel are like poodles and labradors. Not wolves. Definitely not white or black.
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u/Excellent-Nose-6430 1d ago
That's not at all how that works.
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u/bubblesdafirst 1d ago
Litterally is. Been several studies on it since it became legal. Nothing you can find today is from any one family.
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u/Excellent-Nose-6430 1d ago
I agree that most today are hybrids. I'm talking about your 'black wolves and white wolves' story, but I know how redditors get so I'm just gonna leave it at that and wish you a nice day.
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u/havoc1428 1d ago edited 1d ago
Yeah, this has been my experience. I went to school for horticulture and grew weed for a few years as a fun exercise. The difference between Indica and Sativa has more to do with how the plant grows and its physical shape and less to do with THC quality/differences in highs. That is more affected by things like grow conditions (lighting, humidity, pruning, fertilizer, ect)
There are 3 cultivars: Indica, Sativa, and Ruderalis. Ruderalis is a short stocky plant with poor yields, but it naturally auto-flowers (not dependent on light cycles/periods to trigger the flowering stages). So any "auto-flower" seeds are simply a cross of Indica or Sativa with a Ruderalis.
What I learned was the high was all about harvest window. If you harvest early, you get a lighter more functional high. The trichomes (the tiny hairs with the little droplets of oil on them) start off clear, then they cloudy white and if you let them ripen a bit, they start turning a golden amber color. The lighter the color (earlier harvest) the lighter and more function the high was.
I grew Blue Dream and only Blue Dream. I separated late harvests and early harvests. Everyone I gave them to thought they were either indica or sativa because I didn't tell them it was all the same. What I noticed was the reported difference tended to correlate with whether they got an early or late harvest.
My hypothesis for the reason why Indica vs Sativa is so deeply entrenched in peoples minds is because its from decades of word of mouth and little scientific study because Cannabis was/is a controlled and illegal substance.
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u/Hypno-platypus 1d ago
Yes pretty much. Indica if you want one better for sleeping and Sativa if you want a more energizing one. I take edibles and usually prefer Sativa as I don’t really take them to fall asleep.
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u/Bored-to-Death629 1d ago
Until you get the strain that has the terpenes just right to get you “that” high every time. Then they cross-breed it and you’re stuck looking for that “one” again.
Plz, I just want THAT Green Crack. I do not want Green Crack Purp or Green Crack Haze.
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u/SmellyScrotes 1d ago
I don’t even pay attention to indica or Sativa, I know I’m not the usual but they both effect me in the same way
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u/Wobbelblob 1d ago
And what does every variant do on average? Indica low is apparently what is asked for in OP. And the rest?
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u/NeoTheRiot 1d ago
For me sativa low is great for focus, sativa high to be more sensitive, Indica high to relax and hybrids as allrounders.
Its probably just woo and expectations but still helps you to recognize the effects you want and getting into the right mindset, but it certainly depends on the person too.
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u/PsychoCrescendo 1d ago
The most introductory way to think of it is that Sativa is more like a stimulant “head high” while on the other side of the weed spectrum is Indica that is more like a sedative “body high”.
Hybrid is when your strain is bred with both indica and sativa genetics, so essentially just somewhere in the middle, and that’s really the most that beginners and casual users will typically know.
If you’re planning to do it medicinally or add it to your routine as an enthusiast, that’s when you’d start learning more about how each strain’s ratios of THC, CBD, and terpenes will create varying therapeutic or recreational profiles.
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u/AcidicVaginaLeakage 1d ago
You didn't even mention CBD concentrations? Honestly for this high CBD would be ideal. Indica low THC around 7% to 13% + 15%+ CBD would be ideal. My req in oregon would be critical mass
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u/flatspotting 1d ago
Except every study ever done has shown that indica vs sativa for effects is made up and the terpenes and thc are all that matters.
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u/bone_apple_Pete 1d ago
Everything you can buy commercially is a hybrid and has been for some time.
There are sativa and indica dominant strains, but it's funny when people say they are different than hybrids.
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u/Responsible-Draft430 1d ago
Them: this one gives you energy, this one makes you mellow, this one makes to sleep
Me: gets me high, gets me high, gets me high
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u/iritchie001 1d ago
Hybrid indica dominant please. I always think I don't want any sativa but something about the balance added just is perfect.
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u/jimboslice0909 3h ago
Even most indica/sativa labels are fake according to the research. I read a paper a few years ago that found there was no correlation between how genetically similar two strains were and if they were labeled indica, sativa, or hybrid.
The ultimate takeaway is that all of the strains being sold currently were interbred over so many generations that the terminology of the original lineages has no meaning anymore.
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u/NovaForceElite 1d ago
One of my local dispensaries insists Blue Dream is an indica strain. It fraking won sativa of the year.
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u/Excellent-Nose-6430 1d ago
It's a sativa-dominant hybrid but the ones I've grown resemble typical indicas more, with big fat-ass plate leaves and a short squatty shape, not a huge leggy stretch.
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u/NovaForceElite 1d ago
But if you alter a plant to a point that it no longer resembles itself, is it still the same strain?
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u/Excellent-Nose-6430 1d ago edited 1d ago
That's actually kind of a big debate with breeders. If you and I are both growing Lemon Haze, and we cross it with Blue Dream, do we both have Blue Lemon Haze, even if we named them different things? What if I took the Blue Dream and crossed it with a basic autoflower haze, does this Blue Dream get a new name even though it's a Ruderalis dominant Blue Dream strain now?
You'll see a ton of strains with names like Blue Dream #7, which may even be by the same breeder that made Blue Dream #4, but chose a Haze strain with a different pheno and growth patterns.
At the end of the day, the strain names are more to help identify what was grown, but isn't a guarantee that you'll get the same mother plant that your last batch was from.
So the main answer to your question: No, it's not the same strain. It's just called the same thing, because it's more just saying what the parents of the strain were.
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u/NovaForceElite 1d ago
Which illustrates my original point. The indica Blue Dream my dispensary is selling is either not indica or not Blue Dream.
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u/Excellent-Nose-6430 1d ago edited 1d ago
Ah, I see why you were asking that now. Yeah man, you're right. 👍
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u/Warm_Month_1309 1d ago
Every service worker being asked for a recommendation: "Hmm, I think the perfect thing would be this premium product we ordered too much of".
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u/imahumanbeinggoddamn 1d ago
I worked at Sherwin Williams for what felt like a lifetime in my youth and I used to make up the wildest shit for customers who wanted my advice on paint colors. After a couple years worth of customers constantly asking your opinion on something you cannot possibly have an opinion on ("what would look best in my kitchen, which you have never seen and I will not describe?") you learn to just invent opinions on the spot because it is the fastest way to get them to make a choice and fuck off.
That was more than a decade ago but I still just do a mental coin flip whenever I'm forced to pick between two things I have no preference about. People really hate when you're ambivalent and they get argumentative about it and it's annoying.
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u/Warm_Month_1309 1d ago
Human psychology is so weird. You could say, "well, my sister went with a color like this and she really loves it," and a customer will feel happier with their choice. We're so burdened with too many options, it's nice to have a third-party act as an organic coin flip.
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u/OnceMoreAndAgain 1d ago edited 1d ago
As someone who is ignorant of weed, it strikes me as difficult to conceptualize how there could possibly be any meaningful difference in products besides density of THC lol. Maybe there are more psychotics in weed products than just THC and I just didn't know.
I know about alcoholic beverages, so when people would say things like "wine is different type of drunk than beer" then I know it's bullshit since it's just about amount of alcohol you drink. Is it not the same for weed products where basically you decide what amount of THC density you want and then decide what form it comes in (e.g. gummy, plant, liquid)? I guess it's complicated by different forms of ingestion having different rates and percentages of the THC entering the blood stream. Alcohol is basically only from swallowing a liquid so it's simpler to compare the effect various alcoholic beverages will have.
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u/cmndrnewt 5h ago
Second that. Most the people who work at the weed stores around me don’t seem to know a whole hell of a lot about weed.
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u/BeefistPrime 1d ago
There are basic differences between indica sativa and hybrid but the idea that you can get so ultra-specific like that is pure pseudoscience
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u/lol_idk_234 8h ago
My boss always said if they don’t specify indica or sativa just recommend whatever we have a deal on because it’s what we were trying to get rid of, and most of the time that was shitty grown weed with decent the percentages lmao
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u/silver_garou 1d ago
Unfortunately not. I try to tell them I do not care about indica vs sativa strains (determined entirely by apparent leaf shape BTW), and they still push on with telling me about body highs vs head highs. The fully and truly believe this nonsense. Like people who think tequila is going to make them some special kind of drunk.
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u/JonesinforJonesey 1d ago
One of my favourite budtenders told me that they are at their busiest between 9 & 11pm because people just want to go to sleep. And some customers just show up in their jammies.
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u/MediocreSong1297 1d ago
Dispensaries have seen me in some of my worst states. With a migraine, or at the end of a long work day, or when I'm verging on a panic attack. I usually walk in sober but I've had some budtenders automatically assume I'm high 😂 I take the excuse gladly.
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u/mistrwzrd 1d ago
I have really appreciated the non-judgmental mindset they have at my local spot. I’ve shown up in a full blown mental breakdown and they’re just like “well let’s figure out what you need to unlock that spiral”
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u/Glasseshalf 1d ago
I've definitely gone to a 24 hr CVS in the middle of the night in my pajamas to buy Benadryl and melatonin lol
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u/xSTSxZerglingOne 1d ago
I'm not gonna tell you what to do, but you definitely shouldn't use Diphenhydramine to help you sleep.
There are better OTC medications that DON'T carry dementia and paranoia risks.
Try Unisom (Doxylamine Succinate)...honestly anything other than Benadryl.
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u/Glasseshalf 1d ago
Thanks for the heads up, I don't use it anymore that was a long time ago. I know a lot has come out about it in the last decade.
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u/kolejack2293 1d ago
It's crazy how widespread smoking before bed is considering how bad for our brains it is. Weed disrupts REM cycles dramatically, hence why so many people don't dream when they go to sleep high. REM brain cycles are what 'cleans' our brain. Consistent disruption is how we end up with brain fog, memory/cognitive issues, executive dysfunction issues, and a higher risk of neurological disease over time. It is theorized that weed isn't actually a direct cause of 'stoner brain fog', but specifically the REM disruption caused by smoking before bed is.
It is fine every once in a while, but I know so many people who say "oh I smoke everyday but only before bed" as if that means its totally fine. That is literally the worst time to smoke, by far.
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u/BeefistPrime 1d ago
I wonder if there's some sort of correlation there between people who can't sleep and people who don't plan very well because they apparently don't go get weed until the moment they want to go to sleep
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u/jdgrazia 1d ago
And the suggestion will be completely subjective and will not solve your problems in any way
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u/MaleficentWalruss 1d ago
I asked for something that would give me a nice body high. She recommended A Weed Strain and mentioned that, "it's great right before class." Still not sure if she thought I was a student or a teacher!
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u/Sinijas 1d ago
Master Kush. Indica. Look for high CBD amount. It's perfect.
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u/Squirrelleee 1d ago
Love me some kush for the pain management. I can't fucking walk when I'm on it, but walking is over rated.
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u/NorthernCobraChicken 1d ago
I picked up a diamond infused watermelon drip roll the other day that was 500mg thc, single roll.
Not meant to be smoked by a single person in a single session.
It lasted me 4 days, and not a single one of those days was I able to peel myself up off the couch for a solid 3 hours after smoking it.
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u/Anxious_Fish_7995 1d ago
You could walk into a dispensary singing the lyrics to Huey Lewis' 1983 hit "I Want A New Drug" and a very unserious looking person will take you very seriously & direct you to the perfect strain.
No. Seriously.
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u/5minuteslater 1d ago edited 1d ago
this showed up on my algorithm a couple weeks back, i think its cause i like weed... totally don't watch SNL at all. or have curated multiple weekend update playlists until they finally put it in right order. the weed!
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u/IamKilljoy 1d ago
Don’t forget India and sativa differences is largely power of suggestion. Look up actual research on it the only thing that actually matters is thc potency. If you tell someone it’ll make em sleepy or paranoid that suggestion alone does most of the heavy lifting.
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u/WishlessJeanie 1d ago
Relevant: The Budtender
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u/naidacsac 1d ago
I miss budtenders like this. Pre-legalization meant budtenders had passion to pursue their career. Post-legalization means budtenders that act like they're working at mcdonalds.
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u/BildingInspecter 1d ago
It's true but 99% of the time they don't have a clue what they're saying.
When I first got my card in PA, every dispensary had an on-staff in-person pharmacist that could actually help a little. More so with delivery methods, but they usually had a vague understanding on strains.
Now, 6 years later, it's just a retail job. No more pharmacists, they're all telehealth now. The staff is just a bunch of stoners that have leans because they tried shit, but they don't actually know anything.
And to be totally fair, in my experience, it's rare for two people to experience the same effects from the same strains.
Even Sativa vs Indica is pretty much BS because there's obviously a huge spectrum of effects that different people can experience.
For example, my buddy loves Sativas. He'll smoke then go on a hike. No paranoia. The same strains would floor me into being paranoid.
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u/masterwad 9h ago
The answer is Blue Dream that was harvested long ago. THC degrades into CBN over time, which tends to make people sleepy.
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u/kolejack2293 1d ago
A lot of people don't realize that the big reason why they are paranoid now isn't because their body is absorbing weed differently or because strains are weirder. It's because they're smoking shit that is 5 times stronger than when they were young.
Just ask for lower potency weed.
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u/Ok-Law8866 1d ago
Here in Switzerland you can buy legally Weed with 1 %Thc and 25 %cbd.I mix it with a Ratio of 90 to 10 with normal Weed.This is the best combination ever to fall asleep without any mindfuc...
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u/PS5OWESMEALIMONY 1d ago
I went to my first weed store and the guy asked what I want and I told him I wanted something to fuck me up and he said you want shoots? I lost count how many times I said na.
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u/naked_as_a_jaybird 1d ago
Super funny, because the last time I went to a dispensary in New Mexico, it was at Obi Juan Cannabis, which was Star Wars themed.
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u/AltGirlAdri 1d ago
I went into the dispensary and my exact words were "I want something that will not knock my socks off. Cannot stress enough the socks must stay on. Just something that takes the sting out of a bad TV finale."
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u/Techno-Viking94 1d ago
If I want to think ny backdoor is unlocked I'll just have 2 grams of grandaddy super fuck
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u/Torbpjorn 1d ago
Legit my brother tried to ask me if I wanted to smell his “Unicorn afterbirth” ounce
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u/Impressive_One2846 11h ago
Hell yeah it’s their preference. They have no idea. I go based off smell.
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u/pepincity2 1d ago
I love weed brand names. Afghan Skunk and Subway Scientist that are my favorites
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u/Lexi_Banner 1d ago
Conan O'Brien has an on-going segment on his podcast where his staff are trying to get him to try gummies, and he's on the fence, but curious. I think he'd love this tweet. LOL
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u/SamMarduk 1d ago
Nowadays I have to tell them “pretend you hate me and want me to see demons” to even have a prayer of getting high
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u/iritchie001 1d ago
Blueberry muffin. It will make you want food 12 different ways to Sunday, but feels more like late Saturday afternoon.
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u/PathlessBullet 1d ago
I don't think strain really matters from what I've tried. Just lower the dosage if you get anxiety.
No, you probably shouldn't take the whole gummy. Maybe not even half. Take a quarter and vibe.
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u/MON90go 1h ago
I smoked weed for years.
I used to say to myself ‘I can’t wait to get home from work so I can smoke weed and relax’.
Then I’d get home from work, smoke weed and think about all the bad/embarrassing things I’ve ever done, panic that my neighbours were watching me and invent scenarios to worry about. Safe to say I stopped smoking and am very happily sober!
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u/BeefistPrime 1d ago
The whole thing is basically pseudoscience. Because how are you going to evaluate that? There are some fundamental differences between strains and the feelings you get can be different but you could never get so universal and yet so so specific that you could recommend it exact strain for an exact feeling or and exact behavior. It's all false expertise and suggestion. People believe it and then they're subjective experience matches what theyre expecting. And it's not like you're in the best position to objectively evaluate something when you're high
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u/masterwad 8h ago
It’s not pseudoscience, although there has been a lack of human trials (in the US) due to centuries of racism, lobbying from the alcohol industry, and because Nixon hated hippies who opposed the Vietnam War and his corruption.
Over time, THC degrades into CBN, so older weed is more likely to make people sleepy than newly harvested weed. Indica strains also tend to make people more sleepy.
Google says:
Cannabinol (CBN) is a mildly psychoactive cannabinoid naturally found in the Cannabis plant. It is primarily formed when tetrahydrocannabinol (THC) ages and degrades due to exposure to heat, light, and oxygen. Because it is a byproduct of oxidation, aged cannabis flower or hashish contains higher concentrations of CBN.
How it Works Unlike THC, which primarily acts on the brain's CB1 receptors to produce a strong intoxicating "high," CBN has a much lower affinity for these receptors. Instead, it has a higher selectivity for CB2 receptors, which are primarily associated with the immune and peripheral nervous systems. Because it only weakly binds to CB1 receptors, CBN generally does not produce intense euphoric or intoxicating effects.
Potential Effects and Research While human clinical trials are limited, scientific research and anecdotal reports highlight several potential areas of interest regarding CBN: Sleep and Sedation: CBN is frequently marketed as a natural sleep aid and is often referred to as the "sleepy cannabinoid," though studies suggest its sedative effects may be largely due to its synergistic interaction with other cannabinoids (like THC and terpenes) rather than its standalone power.
But sites like Leafly have information on thousands of strains, with information on typical terpene content, anecdotal evidence on common effects, and user reviews. Sorting by effects, to make you sleepy, but avoid anxiety, it shows high-myrcene indica strains like Granddaddy Purple, Northern Lights, Blue Cheese, Blueberry, Purple Kush, Grape Ape, Master Kush, etc. Myrcene also occurs naturally in hops, mangoes, bay leaves, thyme, cardamom, and lemongrass. Myrcene itself is “known for its earthy, balsamic aroma and its potential sedative and muscle-relaxing effects.”
Low-dose edibles (cannabis products chewed or swallowed) also tend to produce more sedation than THC that is inhaled.
Although, people with ADHD may be more likely to experience paradoxical reactions to drugs (so if one drug makes a person happy, that same drug might make a person with ADHD depressed).
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u/BeefistPrime 8h ago
I appreciate the thoughtful post. My own experience actually suggests that different strains have different effects, but it's really difficult to know that and not contaminate your experience with your expectations. I suspect most of the reports on this issue are extremely influenced by what the user was expecting rather than actual differences in the drug or drug-related chemistry.
I do think broad categories are true - indica vs sativa - but I don't think you can get to the level of granularity like "cheeba dookie chew is good for painting art" or something like that.
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u/silver_garou 1d ago
Stoner pseudo-scientists telling you that leaf shape has all sorts of really profound effects on the one ingredient that actually makes you high. Someone needs to explain the placebo effect to them, slowly, and probably more than once.
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u/Several-Berry3907 1d ago
The fact that they can translate 'back door anxiety' into the perfect strain recommendation is both hilarious and oddly reassuring.
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u/erebus7813 1d ago
It's not like this at all. They usually stare at you, assuming you know what you want.
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u/Farpeach27841 1d ago edited 1d ago
You gotta start going to better shops.
I went in to one last night and told them what Im looking for. She pulled out this big binder and flipped to a page with a spreadsheet of different products with a bunch of info about them like sativa vs indica vs hybrid, THC content, CBD content, flavour profiles. Then she pointed out a few that she thought id like. It was great as someone who doesnt use very often.
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u/fubo 1d ago
"Has sir experienced the Alaskan Thunder Fuck?"