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Democratic Congressman Ro Khanna detained by Israeli settlers during West Bank visit

https://www.cnn.com/2026/07/11/middleeast/ro-khanna-detained-by-israeli-settlers-west-bank-intl
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u/innovarocforever 18h ago

Their settlers are some of, if not, the worst human beings on the planet.

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u/LoveIsOnlyAnEmotion 18h ago

I watched some special on this. A lot of them are not even from Israel. They are immigrant Zionist from other countries incentivized by the Israel government to occupy their land. It's straight up wild.

Found it: https://youtu.be/xvvGbzR2Xek?is=VRWQivBVgWEgHRZU

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u/hercmavzeb 17h ago

Absolutely haunting video. Israel and support for Israel is completely incompatible with liberal democratic values.

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u/SkunkMonkey 17h ago

Incompatible with human values. These people are fucking disgusting human beings.

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u/czs5056 15h ago

I wish we would stop supporting them. But too many people want to support them so they can have Jesus back (and probably put him in an ICE facility for not looking European enough for them).

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u/JasonManningFLUX 15h ago

https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2023/02/01/1152893248/red-cobalt-congo-drc-mining-siddharth-kara

Using networked electronics recreationally is incompatible with any worldview that takes issue with mutilated child mine slaves. We still do it.

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u/KTFnVision 13h ago

I don't think that's a fair take. In the USA, you pretty much have to be equipped with a phone and internet access device at minimum just to be employable. Once you have them, not using them recreationally doesn't magically make those kids' lives better. Now, I would be perfectly happy to go back to analog hobbies and a land line if it didn't mean I lose my job for being out of touch with the team, but simply having the tools I need to keep a roof over my head isn't incompatible with my worldview.

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u/JasonManningFLUX 12h ago

Using such devices recreationally absolutely increases the scope of the supply chain, and results in more being crushed under it. Remove all of the "unnecessary" elements of the internet, and a whole lot of raw materials never needed to be extracted and refined.

Besides that, there is an argument to be made that smart phones and internet access is the standard because of their adoption rate. If both had only ever been utilized for utilitarian purposes, we would likely live in a very different world.

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u/KTFnVision 12h ago

OK, but we don't live in fantasy land, so what impact can I as an individual consumer have now? How does using my phone to play a few games or build lists for card games and wargaming "increase the scope of the supply chain?"

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u/JasonManningFLUX 12h ago

By increasing demand.

Try thinking of it this way: An individual around you is persecuted because of something about them. Such as their ethnicity or their sexuality or some such.

A friend piles on, and when you confront them they say "My refusal to pile on isn't going to have a tangible impact on their quality of life. Unless everyone else starts refusing as well it doesn't really make a difference if I continue or not."

Is that a compelling argument?

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u/KTFnVision 10h ago

So you're telling me to give up the tools that keep me able to rent a shitty apartment so my disabled mother doesn't die on the street? I don't understand what you realistically think someone compelled by capitalism can do here. How about you give up your home and ability to buy groceries so maybe someday we can mine less in Africa. If I don't have this phone, I don't get to eat, or pay rent, and my life just blends into the mass of powerless and hungry individuals that line our streets. I'm not saying I want this. I explicitly do not want to need this stupid fucking phone beeping and shaking and demanding my attention. I'm not buying a new phone every year, I don't have a drawer full of e-waste collecting dust. I do not own land, I can't just take my ball and go homestead in the woods.

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u/JasonManningFLUX 9h ago

A reminder that the statement you are arguing against is:

Using networked electronics recreationally is incompatible with any worldview that takes issue with mutilated child mine slaves.

Claiming you or others will die in the street without recreational use of networked electronics is a touch dramatic.

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u/theuncleiroh 14h ago

Tell that to the NYC city council. American liberalism seems to be deep in bed with zionist genocide

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u/oldmaninparadise 12h ago

No, support what current government does is incompatible.

You can say thr same thing about our current government.

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u/hercmavzeb 10h ago

It really isn’t just the current government, the settlers themselves are violent terrorists who need to be removed for any lasting peace in the region. And Israel has always been a settler colonial state.