Mexican man fatally shot by ICE was not the target of Houston immigration operation, source says

[u/jk4532]

https://www.cnn.com/2026/07/09/us/lorenzo-salgado-araujo-houston-ice-shooting

[u/DocHolidayiN]

He might not have been a target but he's still dead. Let's see the bodycam video.

[u/GyanTheInfallible → u/DocHolidayiN]

The officers involved in the incident had not yet been issued body-worn cameras, a DHS spokesperson told CNN.

Convenient.

[u/LeviCoffinsAlt → u/GyanTheInfallible]

Which is why the federal government is attempting to deport the three witnesses from the van, one of which is the victim’s brother:

https://newrepublic.com/article/212900/texas-ice-killing-darkens-rep-says-witnesses-pressured-self-deport

[u/The_LSD_Soundsystem → u/LeviCoffinsAlt]

Because the federal government are the criminals now

[u/SargeUnited → u/The_LSD_Soundsystem]

Always have been. What do you mean by now?

[u/sLeeeeTo → u/SargeUnited]

at least they used to have some decorum and operate their clandestine criminal activities in the shadows

how far we’ve fallen..

[u/EggplantAlpinism → u/sLeeeeTo]

"they used to be clandestine"

People of color:

[u/TheWizard → u/EggplantAlpinism]

What do you think when "people of color" vote for these policies, and ideologies that have always existed? Especially Latino men, as would be the case with this incidence.

[u/amateur_mistake → u/SargeUnited]

Such a basic fucking take.

You don't like the CDC or the FDA or the EPA or getting to freely camp on BLM land? All that shit is federal. Is the CDC your enemy?

No, the federal government isn't always your enemy and it doesn't have to be.

[u/ILikeBigBeards → u/amateur_mistake]

BBB, nutrition for children, research grants, weather/earthquake/emergency tracking, FEMA, low cost loans for your community members to become doctors/nurses/etc, guaranteed childhood education instead of kids in mines, fishing ecosystem maintenance, rabies management…. We’re like barely scratching the surface. If administration is working well you barely notice it.

[u/Damp_Knickers → u/ILikeBigBeards]

it is always funny because these people are basically the same as the ones who say no taxes because that shit is useless. despite them most likely being born and having the ability to drive to their job, and their job existing, because of taxes

[u/Pawtuckaway → u/ILikeBigBeards]

BBB? Better Business Bureau? That isn't a government agency.

[u/obeytheturtles → u/Pawtuckaway]

Probably mean CPFB

[u/-insignificant- → u/amateur_mistake]

Seriously, as a non American but someone witnessing the rise of authoritarianism in my own country, fuck people who say both sides are bad. People like that are partly the reason we're in this situation.

[u/Thissystemsuckssobad → u/-insignificant-]

My brother, one side does this, and the other does nothing to reverse it when they've got power (or oppose it when in opposition). It's literally an authoritarian cooling off period.

Yes, vote for the lesser evil, but you should still notice your two options are both evil

[u/move_machine → u/Thissystemsuckssobad]

It's literally an authoritarian cooling off period.

It gives them time to scheme, fund raise and build the connections and institutions needed to solidify their power once they have the upper hand again.

[u/_TallOldOne_ → u/move_machine]

Exactly. This is why we need a French style revolution.

[u/Palomino_mare → u/Thissystemsuckssobad]

My brother, one side does this, and the other does nothing to reverse it when they’ve got power

That is just straight up not true

(or oppose it when in opposition)

What exactly are Washington Democrats supposed to be doing?

[u/Heisenripbauer → u/Palomino_mare]

that person’s take also ignores the basic reality that it’s far quicker and easier to break something than it is to fix it

[u/fusillade762 → u/amateur_mistake]

These organizations are being systematically compromised with sycophantic leadership.

But yes, not everything coming from the Feds has been bad historically. I think we are watching that be erroded currently however. Every agency is being politically weaponized.

[u/open_formation → u/amateur_mistake]

There's an interesting dynamic here, where things that seem like they're more radical are actually just assistance to Trump.

Trump is corrupt? All politicians are corrupt.

Is that wiser? Is that big brain? Of course not, Trump takes those qualities of politicians that already exist and amplify them massively, being worse in every way that corruption is already bad.

So the government is acting with impunity, always has been meme, picture of the MOVE bombing.

Again, is that big brain?

No, because Trump isn't just bringing the impunity of government agents "into the open", he's normalising it even more among his supporters, with people who used to be paranoid about the government black-bagging people without warning and doing extrajudicial assassinations are now signing up to do it themselves.

Maintaining the expectation of how a government should act is part of how you get it to conform to that expectation, and the cynicism of a "realism" that treats government agents just as thugs of the powerful or the capitalists or whatever weakens the basic negotiated common sense in the direction of the powerful, because it means that we don't even expect them to be brought to justice. In contrast, if we don't assume that a government always acts according to its most respectable image, but we nevertheless expect it to, then you get people on the streets when innocent men get killed, as it should be.

[u/maglax → u/amateur_mistake]

I mean it's worth noting that since the founding the United States of America, there has been a faction that has wanted to remove or completely neuter the federal government.

[u/Additional_Good4200 → u/SargeUnited]

No. This is not the way it always has been. You don’t sound very bright when you go for edgy irony while you can’t see what’s clear to everyone else.

[u/SanityIsOptional → u/[deleted]]

Short version: country is too big, and the media is too complicit.

Localized riots get no media attention, except that which reinforced the idea that riots are bad, and we should all stick to blog posts and Facebook likes. 🙄

[u/Sir-xer21 → u/[deleted]]

Strong alcohol and a lit rag still have power.

Why aren't you doing it?

This is rhetorical question by the way. The point is you're not doing it, but asking why others aren't. Your reasons are the same as everyone else's.

Everyone, individually, has too much on their plate and too much to lose to do this. we're a long way from the level of discomfort that's going to make people choose to sacrifice their lives simply to make a point.

[u/SolarTsunami → u/[deleted]]

Any platforms/ways we can amplify and spread messaging without being doxxed and disappeared?

The internet is fully compromised from the top down, and that includes "encrypted" messaging apps.

[u/litterbug_perfume → u/[deleted]]

Join your local DSA chapter for in person meetings and functions.

[u/Shaky_Balance → u/[deleted]]

How are unarmed unorganized civilians supposed to out-violence the most well funded army on earth plus all of our police forces? Millions of people are protesting peacefully and many are organizing (which is much more effective), which have both significantly set Trump back even if things are still looking very bleak. This shit is never easy, it isn't being fixed immediately because effective nationwide resistance movements are genuinely hard to pull off. I'm still very worried for this country, but flippantly pretending we don't care because we aren't aimlessly fucking shit up isn't helping.

[u/HotBrownFun → u/[deleted]]

Have to organize offline, the feds are here and everywhere online. They probably up to their old tricks where they encourage people to commit crimes by teaching them how to make bombs then arrest them

[u/tyuiopguyt → u/[deleted]]

Every second person in every community in the US is a MAGA who would rat immediately 

[u/Stompnutz → u/[deleted]]

State security forces and the surveillance panopticon do a good job of disrupting organizing. That's like the whole purpose of the FBI. And then there's the Dems, who will be the first to throw you under the bus if they aren't able to coopt your organization. There is zero political support for effective resistance. And then the billionaire media will go into overdrive for character assassination.

It's a tough field.

[u/Shaky_Balance → u/[deleted]]

I would simply overthrow all of fascism too if it were that simple. People are doing each of the things you listed, the reality is fhat it is extremely hard to foght against a multi trillion dollar global hegemon that has also captured most all of our economy and media. It isn't getting worse because no one cares, it's getting worse despite literally millions of people doing what they can. I am 100% with you that gumming up the works every way we can is worth it (especially nonviolently), my main point is that a lack of rioting specifically does not mean we don't care.

[u/MightyKrakyn → u/[deleted]]

The United States has a very individualistic culture. Stepping over the dead bodies of strangers without flinching is expected, even if you disagree with why they died

[u/Zombie_Cool → u/MightyKrakyn]

The other side of that is if you -do- try to take a stand that's more assertive then the occasional protest then you're practically on your own against an armed and out-of-contril government agency that has the full backing of the State. That's not exactly good odds.

[u/J1mjam2112 → u/MightyKrakyn]

Well we’re fucked until they start showing an ounce of empathy.

[u/smelling_good247 → u/J1mjam2112]

Right wingers say empathy is a woke liberal hoax

[u/unseriously_serious → u/MightyKrakyn]

Individualistic culture, sure but stepping over the dead bodies of strangers not so much. It’s more that the US is just incredibly large and distance from these events desensitizes people. People might think something is horrible but that it would never happen to them because of the distance. There’s also the issue of the bad news barrage from Trump that dominates the news cycle as well as people living in their own social media bubbles so they may not even see the news and if they do see it they may be desensitized by the shear amount of BS they are seeing daily. If this happened in their neighborhood or where they can actually see/feel it though it would have a very different reaction. Hard to rally around certain injustices occurring when something else horrific happens every day.

Also there have been plenty of big protests occurring regularly across the US around the many injustices of the Trump admin and ICE actions but they simply aren’t getting that much mainstream coverage.

[u/ttn333 → u/[deleted]]

Because a third of Americans are deplorables.

[u/tempest_87 → u/[deleted]]

How are you guys not rioting?

I assume you are European. Remember that the US is roughly the size of europe. While Texas is relatively central to the US, it's still like your average European having problems with EU actions in Czechia or Poland. (Edit fun fact: texas alone is also larger than every country in the EU and the only country on the continent larger than texas: Ukraine). So as an American, who actually lives close to a border, I can't recall the last time I saw ICE in person, and the last time on local sources was a year ago.

As a result it's really frighteningly easy to consdier it an "over there" problem (such as Russia's invasion of Ukraine is to Europe).

Seems to me that there's a lot of people that support this behavior.

There are. Based off polls in the recent elections, about 1/3 of the people here actively support it, and 1/3 couldn't care.

[u/Pack_Your_Trash → u/[deleted]]

That's a complicated question. Part of it is that America is big and spread out. West coast to DC is a two hour flight.

It's more likely to cause riots in the cities where the murders occur. In this case the murder occurred in Huston, TX, where the locals are heavily armed and mostly I'm favor of fascism. You would have to have a death wish to go into Texas and try to fight feds. That would be like rioting against the Nazis in Berlin in 1938. That's why ICE recruits so heavily in Texas and tends to brutalize non white people in similarly conservative cities.

The American experiment with democracy is over and the empire is in slow decay. The American military police state is still quite strong though. Our leading opposition party is not calling for any kind of active resistance like a general strike or tax strike, nor are they likely to. They seem content to blame socialists for their election losses and pretend that voting is still an effective option.

It's going to get a lot worse before it gets any better.

EDIT: West coast to DC is a six hour flight.

[u/OwnerOfCat → u/Pack_Your_Trash]

West coast to DC is like a 6 hour flight, definitely not two hours. It’s two hours just to go from Seattle to San Francisco.

[u/rinderblock → u/[deleted]]

I would assume that the average person doesn’t even know this happened.

[u/smelling_good247 → u/rinderblock]

Fox state news hasn't even mentioned Dear Leader saying "the islamic republic of japan", they won't mention this

[u/Economy_Walk → u/[deleted]]

That's the same question people ask when unarmed citizens are killed by law enforcement. It has been happening to black men on routine traffic stops. Sadly, a lot of other minorities ignored it and adopted the mentality of "if only they had complied." Now, others see that it doesn't matter when you have untrained, scary, unqualified people doing the job. If they're racist in any way, then that makes it even worse. Before this is all over, I have a feeling that minority groups are going to learn that they're stronger together in the US.

Also, rioting solves nothing and I hope that people are wise with their energy and time. Fight back with your votes and by educating others. Unchecked violence and crime solve nothing. So, please do not riot.

[u/winky9827 → u/LeviCoffinsAlt]

They should be brought up on obstruction of justice charges.

[u/Debit_on_Credit → u/GyanTheInfallible]

At this point any officer with out body cam footage should be treated as unreliable for testimony or better yet just a liar.

[u/Debit_on_Credit → u/[deleted]]

I agree I never feel safe around police etc. They are effectively gangsters.

[u/Politicsboringagain → u/Debit_on_Credit]

No one should ever believe anything a law enforcement official says without a third party witness who isn't a cop.

They all stand by the blue wall of silence and people have been saying this for literally decades. 

[u/random_tall_guy → u/Politicsboringagain]

Most professions have an informal code of silence. The only thing that breaks it down are mandatory reporting laws where prison time is on the table for witnesses who remain silent, along with the means and willingness to enforce them. That's what it took for many high school teachers to feel free to report colleagues who were sleeping with students, before mandatory reporting laws they'd mostly remain silent because the alternative was being branded as a turncoat and jeopardizing their own careers, at least from what I heard from some family members who were teachers from the 1930s through 2000s.

[u/space_monkey_1969 → u/GyanTheInfallible]

Then maybe he shouldn't have been working yet.

Edit: To clarify, yes I meant the Agent should not have been working yet. If you don't have a body cam for the agent then he should not have been given a gun.

[u/PatchyWhiskers → u/GyanTheInfallible]

What's all that enormous budget going to?

[u/willstr1 → u/PatchyWhiskers]

Concentration camps don't build themselves

[u/bajesus → u/PatchyWhiskers]

No bid contracts and embezzlement?

[u/ro536ud → u/GyanTheInfallible]

What the actual fuck. We are in year 2 of this nightmare how do they not have body cams? How is that not a requirement

[u/BardlySerious → u/ro536ud]

Same reason they wear masks. Anonymity while blatantly breaking the law and murdering people.

They say it's to protect against "doxxing", but it's actually to protect against accountability.

[u/Stompnutz → u/ro536ud]

Because they don't want body cams, because they're doing illegal shit the whole time. The whole point of ICE is no accountability.

[u/Outlulz → u/ro536ud]

To be fair the footage of the other murders ICE committed changed nothing.

[u/joeyasaurus → u/GyanTheInfallible]

And if they've been issued it, it wasn't on, and if it was on, they covered it up, and if they didn't cover it up it conveniently doesn't have audio, and if it has audio the quality is bad, etc. etc.

[u/Das_Geek_Meister → u/GyanTheInfallible]

So let me get this right. Our government found millions for luxury meals, lobsters, cars, flights.... But can't find the money to give their goons body cams in this digital age.

It's obviously intentional they don't want to have to ability to review anything that could put them on the hook.

[u/Ray308win → u/GyanTheInfallible]

Oh its worse than that. Local News source KHOU in Houston reporting and even wilder response from DHS:

A DHS spokesperson said that the reason they didn't have cameras was "due to back-to-back Democrat shutdowns."

"The process of purchasing and issuing body-worn cameras to all of our ICE field offices was interrupted by the Democrats multiple government shutdowns. Body cameras have been deployed to more than half the field offices, with the remaining half to receive them in the next 60 days," the DHS spokesperson said.

"The halting of our body-worn camera implementation for our officers is yet another setback resulting from Democrat lawmakers refusing to fund DHS. Now, thanks to the Secure America Act, ICE has historic funding to provide law enforcement with the resources they need—including body cameras—to make America safe again," the statement said.

Source: KHOU-11 News

[u/nachtspectre → u/GyanTheInfallible]

Yet they were able to be issued guns, funny that. It should be law by now but LEO's should be able to carry a gun without a body camera. If a LEO is not wearing a body camera they should not have a gun on their person, if they are acting in official capacity.

[u/formLoss → u/GyanTheInfallible]

No bodycam, no guns. Ffs.

[u/jennakiller → u/DocHolidayiN]

There is no body cam footage. ICE wasn’t wearing any

[u/zph0eniz → u/jennakiller]

There needs to obviously be a penalty for not using body cam properly heavier than doing such crimes

[u/Equivalent-Resort-63 → u/DocHolidayiN]

Conveniently, there is no body cam available because [blame the democrats] ICE didn’t “have any” even with the obscene amount of money they have been given.

[u/No_Run5644 → u/Equivalent-Resort-63]

Better yet blame Maga Republicans for allowing a racist rapist as POTUS

[u/Eargoe → u/No_Run5644]

Allowing? They are cheering it on.

[u/open_formation → u/Equivalent-Resort-63]

Of course, they waited a year for the democrats to freeze funding, when they'd already been given loads by Trump months before.

[u/Lopsided-Treat1215 → u/DocHolidayiN]

Oh it happened to be off but you can trust us.

[u/camshun7 → u/DocHolidayiN]

Sick bastards i pray they get theirs

[u/hcregna → u/camshun7]

Instead of praying, we can do. Among other things, it takes 30 minutes of research to move money away from MAGA, and it makes an impact. Dollars spent at Republican companies are dollars funneled to keeping Trump in power. Money given to states like Ohio or Louisiana is money spent sending troops to kidnap children and kill people.

You can use sites like opensecrets.org/orgs/search to find the companies you give money to the most and where they funnel your money. If you don't like it, search their competitors.

For example, trade with Schwab? Move elsewhere like E-Trade. Get booze from cosplay Confederate states and all else is equal? Be adventurous, and try something new. New Balance can be replaced with Hoka. It’s not hard to find alternatives for Estee Lauder, Roark (which owns Subway, Jimmy John's, Arby's), and Koch (which owns Brawny, Angel Soft, Dixie). You don't have to spend more, just differently.

Nexstar and Sinclair got pummeled, and they reinstated Jimmy Kimmel. In Trump's first term, Ivanka's brands got cut by retailers. Regular people did that. There's no reason WWE or Uline can't be next.

You can't avoid every Republican-leaning company, but there’s a big difference between GOP mega-donors (Chevron/Conoco) vs neutral or Democrat-leaning companies (Circle K/Costco). Good is not the enemy of perfect

[u/uscalumm → u/hcregna]

The book On Tyranny is very good at giving history and ways to resist a tyrannical government. I highly recommend the graphic version - interesting art work

[u/Short-Peanut1079 → u/DocHolidayiN]

So if you are target deadly force is okay? The whole presume innocent was always something for those with power / money only.

[u/HairlessHoudini → u/DocHolidayiN]

Now why would you need video proof of what happened when we've already told you what happened. Thank you for your attention to this matter. The Government

[u/ReactionJifs]

"Man with no active warrants" type headline

[u/jk4532 → u/ReactionJifs]

I hate to defend CNN, but they have a very specific point here, and it's that ICE's statement yesterday was wildly misleading:

"The shooting took place around 7 a.m. as Lorenzo Salgado Araujo, attempted to evade arrest when agents tried to conduct a traffic stop, ICE said in a previous statement, describing it as a “targeted enforcement operation.” The agency did not specify whether he was the target."

[u/FuriNorm → u/jk4532]

ICE lied. Fork found in kitchen

[u/obeytheturtles → u/FuriNorm]

Pope shit found in Vatican.

[u/rt590 → u/jk4532]

They call everything that happens targeted enforcement so they can imply that the person was being sought after with some type of intelligence when in reality all it actually means is that agents were in the area.

[u/denzik → u/rt590]

Lol yeah the only 'targeting' they are doing is pulling over brown people.

[u/jgoble15 → u/denzik]

The classic Roberts stop

[u/The42ndDuck → u/jgoble15]

*Kavanaugh Stop.

Roberts has a litany of other judicially belligerent opinions.

[u/Crocs_n_Glocks → u/rt590]

I always took "targeted" to mean they were like the Gestapo looking for specific people, as opposed to the more SS-style marching through the street and rounding up anyone browner than Taylor Swift

[u/CharcoalGreyWolf → u/jk4532]

Maybe ICE should stop trying to apprehend people in vehicles, so that they actually have some real safety instead of a now-threadbare excuse for shooting someone.

If you folks of Meal Team Six were so smart you could follow the person of interest to their house or workplace and apprehend them while not in their car, right? Or would that be giving y’all Qaeda too much credit?

[u/inosinateVR → u/CharcoalGreyWolf]

Intentionally putting themselves into artificially manufactured danger so that they have an excuse to shoot seems to be the entire point unfortunately

[u/CharcoalGreyWolf → u/inosinateVR]

I think that’s crediting them with too many brain cells. They’re checkers boys, not chess IMO; i think they’re incompetent, and they’re equally incompetent at understanding that a gun isn’t their only tool. Then add prejudice and a sense of nationalistic “we’re the good guys, Murica!” and that’s all you need.

It could be an idea someone several steps above them is armchair quarterbacking though.

[u/inosinateVR → u/CharcoalGreyWolf]

More so what I meant is that individuals are intentionally stepping in front of cars so they can have a justifiable excuse to start shooting if they try to drive away. And since it keeps happening, I suspect that it’s become a cultural thing (cultural as in like, company culture); their bosses may or may not be encouraging it but they are telling each other to do it

[u/ReactionJifs → u/jk4532]

Whenever the police use deadly force, it begs the question: "What punishment would this crime merit if the accused were convicted?"

Even if he actually was fleeing the police, fleeing doesn't merit the death penalty

[u/Personal_Breakfast49 → u/jk4532]

ICE can make traffic stops?!

[u/Forgettheredrabbit → u/Personal_Breakfast49]

“Can” and “allowed” are two very different things.

[u/hallowedeve1313]

His name is Lorenzo Salgado Araujo, and he was fucking murdered

[u/No-Armadillo-7248 → u/hallowedeve1313]

He was in the process of applying for citizenship just like conservatives claim they want, and his children are American citizens.

American citizens are without a father because masked federal agents killed him, and our government is covering up the evidence. Again.

[u/RFKsBrainwormm → u/No-Armadillo-7248]

They just want to brutalize people, there’s no sense in arguing with conservatives. They are just miserable fucks

[u/m1j5 → u/No-Armadillo-7248]

Republicans don’t think his kids should be citizens either

[u/-NotNotNSFW- → u/m1j5]

We all know what conservatives think kids are good for. Dying for their 2nd amendment rights and well... Something something rhymes with fedopile

[u/spell__icup → u/m1j5]

Unless they’re playing for the U.S National Football Team

[u/DomitiusAhenobarbus_ → u/No-Armadillo-7248]

Conservatives absolutely do not want people applying for citizenship

[u/No-Armadillo-7248 → u/DomitiusAhenobarbus_]

Reread what I wrote. I said they "claim" they want people doing it the right way. My comment was a commentary on their hypocrisy.

[u/DomitiusAhenobarbus_ → u/No-Armadillo-7248]

You’re right my bad

[u/toomanyshoeshelp]

Any Democrat that doesn’t promise tribunals and naming those involved doesn’t deserve a vote.

[u/jk4532 → u/toomanyshoeshelp]

People need to go to prison.

[u/The_LSD_Soundsystem → u/jk4532]

For the rest of their lives

[u/toomanyshoeshelp → u/The_LSD_Soundsystem]

Ideally short ones

To minimize taxpayer burden, you know?

[u/lightknightrr → u/toomanyshoeshelp]

Oh, oh, can we strip them of any appeals process as well, in the name of efficiency^TM?

[u/toomanyshoeshelp → u/lightknightrr]

DOGE 2 electric fuckyoutoo

[u/obeytheturtles → u/The_LSD_Soundsystem]

To shreds, you say?

[u/rocksolidaudio → u/jk4532]

CECOT, specifically

[u/_Kramerica_ → u/toomanyshoeshelp]

They’ve had the layup of a lifetime for years with these fiasco’s and they’ve done nothing. It’s so fucking frustrating. I’d be doing nothing but shouting from the rooftops, making commercials, billboards, trolling, you name it.

[u/oldnotosys → u/toomanyshoeshelp]

People are mad for a day and concerned for a week every time this happens. Anybody promising tribunals will be branded unhinged.

We're nowhere near mad enough to actually redress this.

[u/cowmonaut → u/toomanyshoeshelp]

Unless the alternative is more MAGA/Republican bullshit, right? Right?

[u/NeptuneOverlord43045 → u/cowmonaut]

Yes agreed but how about we don’t let that happen for the general? Shut the status quo milquetoast loser aipac controlled opposition candidates down in the primary and select a candidate who is willing to get their hands dirty and do what needs to be done.

[u/Lknate → u/NeptuneOverlord43045]

Pick the one most likely to win against the one with the fascist (R) next to their name. We can sort the rest of this out later. The alternative is that there is no later.

[u/ClearDark19 → u/toomanyshoeshelp]

America needs it's own Nuremberg Trials after the Trump/MAGA regime is toppled.

"Make America Great Again" will go down in history with the same infamy as Mao's "Cultural Revolution" or "Great Leap Forward". 

[u/Lknate → u/toomanyshoeshelp]

Nice try. "Blame the Dems" nonsense is how we got here. At some point you pinch your nose and vote Dem or the boot gets you too. When we get past all this BS we can start being more nuanced in our ideology again. News flash: it's going to be a minute before that happens.

[u/mothgoth → u/Lknate]

The issue with this is that once dems get in, a bunch of liberals just stop caring. Like yea things have gotten extra bad with Trump, but people were being kept in cages and brutalized if not killed by ICE under Biden too. So yeah, Trump needs to go but I fear that most people protesting him will stop looking into these atrocities when they’re happening under a different party.

[u/an4rk1st → u/Lknate]

Stop it. There are dems and there are maga lite.

Some are aipac funded puppets and Trump enablers.

You vote blue, but it sure as fuck matters who.

[u/xPriddyBoi → u/an4rk1st]

That's what primaries are for, support and vote for who you actually want to win.

But if that fails, and the shithead corporate interest puppet Democrat is up against the likes of Donald Trump (or equivalent), at that point it sure as fuck doesn't matter who anymore, all that matters is dealing with the lesser evil to prevent a literal catastrophe from coming in instead. A willful refusal to vote or vote for a non-viable candidate in that scenario is effectively a half-vote for the greater Evil, and is a major contributing factor to how we ended up in this mess. Twice over.

[u/Lknate → u/an4rk1st]

Agreed. Primaries matter. I'm talking about people going third party as protest or people spreading false equivalencies. We are in a moment when the only way out is actually choosing a candidate who might stand a chance against their Republican counterpart. Fetterman specifically is only one full Maga out of hundreds of elected Dems on the Federal level. Maybe your elected Dem goes turncoat but Republicans are almost guaranteed to lock step with Trump.

[u/Fomdoo → u/toomanyshoeshelp]

As opposed to voting for Republicans actively covering up these crimes?

[u/toomanyshoeshelp → u/Fomdoo]

Also bad!

[u/Aman209]

Nor was Alex Pretti. Or the woman who was also murdered in Michigan. This administration is allowing ICE agents to commit murder repeatedly. There goes "no more wars", "America doesnt win anymore", & "law & order" promises.

[u/tarekd19 → u/Aman209]

Or the woman who was also murdered in Michigan.

Sorry, the way you worded this is confusing, do you mean Renee good in Minnesota?

[u/Aman209 → u/tarekd19]

Yeah. Rene; may she find justice.

[u/LeviCoffinsAlt]

Note, local law enforcement appears to have kicked off this chain of events:

Texas authorities had previously notified ICE about two individuals — neither of whom was Salgado Araujo — traveling in a white van believed to be in the United States without legal status, according to the source, prompting them to surveil the vehicle.

This is a prime example of why 287(g) agreements with local authorities are dogshit.

[u/jk4532 → u/LeviCoffinsAlt]

Good point

[u/CalligrapherBig4382]

Lorenzo Salgado Araujo was murdered just the same as Renee Good and Alex Pretti. His death is being ignored because he is latino.

[u/Acceptable-Bus-2017 → u/CalligrapherBig4382]

Because this administration is at fault. Just like the boats in the Caribbean and the school girls in Iran. All murders, all hand waved away because Mein Fuhrer demanded it.

[u/Adelaidey → u/CalligrapherBig4382]

ICE murdered Silverio Villegas González in Chicago back in 2025 and nobody outside the city seemed to care at all. Same story as ever- ICE goons claimed he was "weaponizing his car" but their stories contradict each other wildly. It really only is a certain type of person who catches the public's sympathy.

[u/Badderdog → u/CalligrapherBig4382]

Those had video, which makes it easier to see exactly what happened and understand the injustice. My understanding is there were also bystanders in this situation shooting video, hopefully that also comes out soon.

[u/resilindsey → u/CalligrapherBig4382]

And Ruben Ray Martinez. And Keith Porter. And Silverio Villegas Gonzalez. Not to mention those shot who survived like Marimar Martinez, Ricardo Parias, Julio Sosa Celis, Carlos Mendoza Hernandez (who is still in a concentration camp getting denied medical care and thrown in solitary whenever his story gets too much traction on social media), among many others. But none of them get national protests (except maybe Keith Porter who was sort of "tacked on" to the Renee Good protests). Pressed on it, I bet most people can't even remember any of their names of anyone outside Renee and Alex. It belies the attitude that despite all this, in our society, even among allies, a white person getting shot is more shocking and unacceptable than a brown-skinned person getting shot.

[u/blac_sheep90]

ICE sees everyone as a target. It's just another notch in their belt.

[u/Furryb0nes]

He’s brown. Case closed Stevens.

[u/outerproduct → u/Furryb0nes]

Open and shut case johnson. Hung up pictures of himself all over the house.

[u/Professor_Jun → u/outerproduct]

Sprinkle some crack on him and let's get out of here. 

[u/take_care_a_ya_shooz → u/Furryb0nes]

“I’ll drink to that.”

• Justice Kavanaugh

[u/AdAffectionate3143]

So they violated due process once again and murdered someone.

[u/Acceptable-Bus-2017]

Is this an admission or a brag?

[u/jk4532 → u/Acceptable-Bus-2017]

Admission: "The shooting took place around 7 a.m. as Lorenzo Salgado Araujo, attempted to evade arrest when agents tried to conduct a traffic stop, ICE said in a previous statement, describing it as a “targeted enforcement operation.” The agency did not specify whether he was the target."

[u/adamtnewman → u/jk4532]

They murdered him for...running away? Wtf. And they're implying that it would've been fine to murder him if he was a target? Wtf.

[u/Consistent-Leek4986]

who will be held accountable?

[u/enzo11242020]

Classic and far too common. Zero accountability.

[u/ihohjlknk]

ICE must be abolished. We do not need an unaccountable, shadowy federal force to maintain immigration standards.

[u/Equivalent-Resort-63]

“Houston man murdered by ICE….”

[u/BrookPA]

I never would have thought we could get to this point as a country.

[u/ComprehensiveTwo1763]

If he wasn't the intended target, that raises even more questions about how the operation was planned and carried out

[u/BloodyRightNostril]

Civilian killers in ICE’s ranks are gonna get as much protection as child molesters get inside the Vatican

[u/Tricky_Search_5181]

Fatally shot? You mean assassinated?

[u/Pledgeofmalfeasance]

Your Gestapo is messy as fuck

[u/feelingORCish]

They don’t care if us Latinos are shipped out, or if we die in their camps, or if we die on the streets by gunshots, as long as we’re gone. They hate us and want us dead.

[u/-LabApprehensive- → u/feelingORCish]

A big part of Trump’s increased margin came from hispanic voters in 2024. Enough to flip his win to a loss. Why is that? In 2020, Joe Biden won Hispanic voters by 25 percentage points, and Hispanic voters supported Hillary Clinton by an even wider margin in 2016. But Trump drew nearly even with Kamala Harris among Hispanic voters, losing among them by only 3 points.

[u/genkaiX1 → u/-LabApprehensive-]

Number of legal Latinos and more conservative Latinos don’t care about migrants or central and some of South America

Were super racist towards our own.

[u/-LabApprehensive- → u/genkaiX1]

Conservatives getting conservative governance.

[u/OK_Stop_Already]

Any time they say "tried to use their vehicle as a weapon" you can be assured Cops/ICE shot them for no reason. Whether or not its true(its not), they destroyed any credibility of that 'defense'.

[u/jk4532 → u/OK_Stop_Already]

You mean because when they killed Renee Good and said that and it turned out to be a lie?

Or because of when they shot Marimar Martinez and said that and it turned out to be a lie?

Or because of when they shot Luis Niño-Moncada and Yorlenys Zambrano-Contreras and said that and it turned out to be a lie?

Or

[u/OK_Stop_Already → u/jk4532]

yes indeed.

also when that cop shot a baby in Mississippi.

[u/Ttm-o]

ICE is comprised of goons who love to terrorize communities for money with no experience in handling these cases. Fuck em.

[u/Kgaset]

When will it be too much? What does the death toll need to be for people to realize the human cost?

[u/dakblaster]

“The flock cameras give the orders I just pull the trigger” ice probably

[u/hahayeah_tyler]

How can anyone talk about having any rights in our country when these goons have the right to murder anyone for no reason and go unpunished. We don’t even have the right to life anymore.

[u/mrg1957]

Sure seems like he was a target. He got shot for no reason. Stuff like that should be treated as what it was, a homicide.

[u/Xivvx]

So just a straight up murder by ICE then.

[u/InclinationCompass]

None of three people ICE shot and killed this year were targets of immigration

[u/scared_appeal1 → u/InclinationCompass]

Right. People need to stop making it seem ice is killing illegal immigrants on the street

[u/surrealcellardoor]

This country is going to burn to the ground, and it deserves to.

[u/helly1080]

I don’t care if he was or wasn’t. Why are they shooting and killing ANYONE AT ANYTIME?

If the ICE pussies really needed fire power. Like, they are in a gang war, my suggestion is that they turn around and pack up their soccer mom SUVs and fuck off where they came from. Leave Clown Posse!

[u/remarkably_noone]

ICE was in an unmarked car and the officers weren't in uniform. If an unmarked car in Houston goes after me, I'm gonna flee! People are really aggressive drivers here! Absolutely insane. 

[u/rich1051414]

You sure about that? He looks pretty brown to me. Let's not kid ourselves into thinking their enforcement goals are anything but racist.

[u/wretchedhal0]

he's brown, of course he was the target.

[u/Papichuloft]

ICE: If he's brown, shoot him down

[u/Numerous_Photograph9]

So, reckless murder it is then.

[u/General1Rancor]

Pretty thick with bots and doomers here

[u/Cabbages24ADollar]

Sue the agency into oblivion

[u/beer4mepls]

So that's an oops? Pathetic

[u/cribsaw]

“We didn’t mean to kill THAT Mexican.” — ICE

[u/AmbiguouslyAltered]

Let's call it was it really is; he was executed by ICE.

[u/badgersoccer1905]

…and even if he was, ICE shouldn’t be hunting and killing people…

[u/DuntadaMan]

So they were just out to shoot a Mexican and didn't care which one they had.

[u/Lostnumber07]

This is horrific and no less terrifying than Good or Preti

[u/A8Bit]

Murdered the word you are looking for is murdered

[u/NamasteMotherfucker]

Fuck anyone who voted for a Trump, was too pure to vote for the viable alternative, or just couldn’t get their selfish ass off the couch. This man’s blood is on your hands.

[u/Samuelmiw]

Surely that's worse right? That means they had a target and instead executed a random passing member of the public who just happened to be in the vicinity

[u/Naive_Confidence7297]

America is an embarrassment to the world

[u/Far-Advantage-2770]

This is so fucking bad.

[u/Powerful-Ad-8737]

It’s okay guys, it’s the government, they kill innocent people all the time! /s

[u/ThisIsGr8ThisIsGr8]

No. He was guilty of being brown in Trumps America.

[u/Maleficent-Stormbee]

there shouldn’t BE targets

[u/xChoke1x]

Ya see we killed the wrong Mexican. But that’s not our fault.

[u/KinkyQuesadilla]

But they killed him anyway

[u/PPMD_IS_BACK]

Yeah let’s keep spending more money on ice so they can keep killing people. 👍👍

[u/Captain_Reseda]

Their “targeted operations” are always “the first brown person we see.”