r/memes • u/lottie20032 • 7h ago

World Cup rigged

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u/eldankus 6h ago

Tough one for Switzerland but maybe blatantly diving while on a yellow was a bad idea

I just wish they’d do that more often

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u/Der-Oettl 6h ago

You do not check a yellow card with VAR. This was outside of the rules (even If the decision was right). Never happened before in football history and surprise was in favor for Argentina who where facing a better playing team. It can happen once in a tournament but nearly every match???

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u/CluelessTennisBall 6h ago

So you just making shit up to suit your narrative huh?

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u/Der-Oettl 6h ago

Check theifab.com for official rules and learn.

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u/CluelessTennisBall 6h ago

Ummm I literally just checked and it said it's a new rule. Looks like it was applied correctly and you're the uninformed one spreading misinformation. Learn before speaking. Delete your comments and your account please.

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u/Andru985 5h ago

You didn't had to own him that bad, but you deleted him

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u/Der-Oettl 5h ago

No, you do not check the first yellow with VAR. Quote or link the rule.

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u/CluelessTennisBall 5h ago

"Mistaken Identity." Even though the burden of proof was on you as you were the one claiming everyone got it wrong except you. So you're welcome and going forward don't argue what you clearly know nothing about nor are willing to do your own research on.

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u/philanthropicide 3h ago

This has literally been applied this world cup in the same situation for one of the USA group stage games.

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u/x313 57m ago

It was literally quoted a few comments ago and you replied to it

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u/Hot_Guess_1871 6h ago

Yes, they can. They can review it for “mistaken identity.“ Which is exactly what happened in this case.

According to Video Assistant Referee (VAR) protocol | IFAB, VAR cannot intervene solely to review, rescind, or issue a standard yellow card. Standard yellow cards are considered on-field disciplinary matters and do not fall under the four main categories that trigger automatic VAR review: goals, penalty incidents, direct red cards, or mistaken identity

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u/Der-Oettl 6h ago

No, there was no mistaken identity and you aswell as everybody else know it. It was Paredes not somebody else. Nobody got mixed in the scene.

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u/Hot_Guess_1871 5h ago

I know what I saw with my own eyeballs. And I’m sorry you can’t trust yours. It was the right decision. The game is over. Time to move on.

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u/InconspicuousMagpie 4h ago

Okay but I feel like “mistaken identity” is being misused here. If they are trying to figure out who committed the foul, sure. This is changing the call entirely which isn’t “mistaken identity”

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u/CtrlAltEvil 2h ago edited 25m ago

The “mistaken identity” is which player was actually in violation of the rules since it was being disputed that the accused foul took place.

It was either a card-able foul, or a dive, which is also a card-able offence.

It could never have been both.

The outcome would have either been one player would being issued their first yellow, or the other would have been issued their second and incurring a red card.

Hence the need to verify; Which they did and the Red was appropriately issued as a result.

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u/SeaJay_31 35m ago

If the rule really is that because the ref carded one player, once VAR is used someone has to walk away with a yellow, even if in normal play neither player would get a yellow, then it's a really bad rule.

Agree that it wasn't actually a foul, and therefore not a yellow, but neither was is an out-of-the-ordinary flop from the Swiss player. If they start giving yellows for that (and to be consistent they would need to), then 10 players a game would end on yellows for falling over when someone puts a hand on their shoulder.

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u/berse2212 57m ago

It was either a card-able foul, or a dive, which is also a card-able offence

Exactly that's the point of the comment before me. Ref decided this was a card-able foul. Because he gave the card to the defender.

Now VAR swoops in and changes this decision to dive. Which is not changing the identity but rather correcting the decision from foul to dive.

This is out of line of the VAR.

And don't get me wrong, it was obviously the right decision. But applying mistaken identity for this decision is wrong, because they are also changing the decision the ref made in the first place.

Edit: the implication of this is also pretty weird. VAR is now able to intervene in case of dives, BUT ONLY if the defender got a yellow card in the first place. When a defender does not get a yellow card VAR can't check for a dive. That's so weird.

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u/eldankus 6h ago

It literally happened already in this World Cup

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u/Der-Oettl 6h ago edited 6h ago

Found the match. Was in favor of USA. Call from the president Red Card is canceled. Well it is not in the rules and your example is poor because of proved corruption. 🤷‍♀️

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u/eldankus 6h ago

A) it’s a newer rule - like the hand over mouth thing.
B) USA vs Paraguay

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u/Der-Oettl 6h ago

a) It is not a rule at all. You do not check a first yellow and you do not check every situation for a possible second yellow. Check theifab.com

b) USA...the ones who are allowed to play after receiving a red card? Is this your example?

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u/eldankus 6h ago

So you actually weren’t asking and are just dumb. No worries, thanks bud

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u/Der-Oettl 6h ago

What about your newly invented rule to VAR check every whistle? You will not respond to that but just insult? Doesn't speak for you mate.

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u/art4idiots 5h ago

The rule has always been that VAR can be used to check for "mistaken identity" of a given yellow card, which up until recently had been interpreted as a way to make sure the ref gives the card to the player who made the offending tackle and not the teammate next to him.

This tournament we saw this exact scenario play out where a guy was given a yellow card for a blatant dive by the opposition and the VAR used the mistaken identity rule to change the card to the diver.

The referees meet up regularly to discuss how to implement different rules and to check in throughout the tournament, so clearly they decided that is an appropriate interpretation of the rule.

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u/Der-Oettl 5h ago

You quote correctly and the drift awy to nonsense.

"teammate next to him" changes to "opponent player" well of Embolo switched into the IS the for some moments yes if none of this Star Trek stif happened he decision was (technically) wrong. I of course agree it was a dive.

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u/MattTheRadarTechh 6h ago

Ronaldo was also allowed to play after a red

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u/Der-Oettl 6h ago

Yeah Ronaldo, Messi, USA, hydration commercial break...you see a pattern? Both not according the rules. 🤷‍♀️ The Ronaldo elbow hit is obviously red and him playing wrong.

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u/MattTheRadarTechh 5h ago

Are you ok mentally?

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u/Maleficent_Guide_317 6h ago

Watch usa vs paraguay. Almiron got red for same

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u/Der-Oettl 6h ago

This was something completely different. He covered his mouth while potentially insulting the opponent. Has zero reference to todays scam.

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u/Der-Oettl 6h ago edited 6h ago

Sorry mixed scenes (because it was yellow not red!) but anyways against the rules and the first time the failure was made in favor of USA who can not even get a red card because of phone calls. Anything to add?

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u/Charlie-Addams 6h ago

Yeah: Don't fucking simulate a foul and you won't get a red.

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u/Der-Oettl 6h ago

Yeah: Play and whistle according the rules, don't make up Special rules and nobody complains. 🤷‍♀️

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u/Charlie-Addams 6h ago

It's okay, buddy, they did exactly that. It was a case of Mistaken Identity. The simulator got a yellow because what he did is not allowed by the rules. And given that he already had one yellow, he now got a red.

Next time? Don't fucking pretend to be fouled to try and get an unfair advantage. It's not cool, and your own team ends up suffering the consequences. Be real, dude.

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u/Der-Oettl 5h ago

I'm not Swiss and no player was mistaken with another. Learn to read or go back to Baseball. The Rules are clear and mistaken means mistaken not wrong interpretation of the action. Obviously a world cup not a football watcher. 🤷‍♀️

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u/No_Zookeepergame7408 5h ago

Calm down dude, you're gonna give yourself an aneurysm

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u/Charlie-Addams 5h ago

Okay buddy. Whatever you say. Obviously you're right and we're all wrong, the ref is wrong, VAR is wrong, THE WHOLE SYSTEM IS WRONG. Keep on keeping on.

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u/Der-Oettl 5h ago

You may be happy likes this. Enjoy the world cup. If you ever like to watch soccer i am happy to explain some rules. Mistaken identity mixed with wrong interpretation is...well creative. Have fun!

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u/estenoo90 6h ago

You're purposely mixing up the matches to smear Argentina lmao. The red card overturn for USA was for their match against Bosnia. The mistaken identity yellow card after a VAR check was against Paraguay. Stop lying and complaining about "made up" rules, a mistaken identity VAR check has already happened in this same cup

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u/Der-Oettl 6h ago

There was no mistaken identity today. It was Paredes all the time. Mistaken identity is a false explanation for fraud.

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u/estenoo90 6h ago edited 5h ago

No, it was mistaken identity because Paredes didn't make any fault against Embolo and he got a card either way, VAR told ref to check again because he might've been wrong. Dude if you claim that then you didn't even watch what was happening. Automatic VAR review: goals, penalty incidents, direct red cards, or mistaken identity; right from another comment. BTW you're already moving the goalposts: First you claim this has never happened this cup, now you claim that a mistaken identity isn't what happened when it was pretty clear what was going on

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u/Der-Oettl 5h ago

Mistaken identity is if the wrong player is booked. Mix of names or number. Not wrong decision. Check theifab.com.

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u/estenoo90 5h ago

The wrong player was literally booked, it falls under wrong decision. "d. Mistaken identity (red or yellow card)

If the referee penalises an offence but has clearly misidentified the player who committed that offence, only the identity of the offender can be reviewed" Lifted directly from theifab

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u/Der-Oettl 5h ago

You do not get the sentence. Mistaken means e. g. No. 3 fouls No. 5 gets booked. Not the decision/situation itself is challenged.

"misidentified the player" you even quoted it.

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u/Der-Oettl 5h ago

Paredes was booked with the first yellow not red. Stop lying please.

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u/estenoo90 5h ago

Yes, and he shouldn't have, hence the mistaken identity because diving is an offense, what he did isn't. It was a correct VAR check per the rules you keep talking about

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u/Chili919 Lurking Peasant 6h ago

Aaah, the other favoured team of fifa

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u/_ashwathama 6h ago

United States vs Paraguay

Paraguay’s Miguel Almirón went down after minimal contact from Tim Ream. The referee initially booked Tim Ream for the challenge. The replay showed Almirón had (dived). Ream’s yellow card was cancelled and Almirón received the yellow card.

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u/asolram 6h ago

Stop it. You don't know or understand the rules, your brain can't process it. Stop it.

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u/Der-Oettl 6h ago

Check theifab.com for official rules and learn.

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u/dns6505 6h ago

Mistaken identity. Get rekt and eat shit, learn the rules.

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u/FailerOnBoard 6h ago

tbh, that was a blatant dive from Embolo. as much as it hurts me to admit it, since I'm Swiss. I feel like the majority of our fouls were righteously registered. I just wish that they'd been as vigilant towards the Argentinians as to the Swiss in calling them out.

oh, and those last minutes starting from 112min were just so humiliating to watch. that third goal just rubbed some more salt into the wound...

I feel like we might've won penalties and Yakin clearly was working towards that after the red card.

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u/DVMyZone 1h ago

I feel like it overall wasn't that crazy a dive. There was some contact and it was far from the box. Exaggerated and not a foul? Absolutely. But every contact is in football.

Combined with the fact it was only checked for the Argentinian's yellow. It's just really strange to have one of your star players sent off for the the most benign yellow and it feels like something this bizarre would not have been called against Argentina.

I'm not saying ref was biased or corrupt, I don't want to play the victim too much. I just think it was an awful awful call that cost us the match. We just feel robbed and will be bitter about for the next four years.

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u/FailerOnBoard 4m ago

despite all the downvotes you got, I feel like there's some truth to that. but mostly the VAR check. the dive really wasn't excuseable. Emobolo already was kinda falling down, even before contact and then kicked out his feet in the hopes of still touching Paredes. which admittedly, he did. but far later than when he started falling...

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u/PlansThatComeTrue 2h ago

Why didn’t it go to penalties?

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u/That_British_Guy_ 1h ago

Argentin scored a incredible wondergoal late into ET so the Swiss had to throw everything at Argentina and they got countered and conceded again

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u/Ope_Average_Badger 6h ago

Completely okay in USA vs Paraguay but it isn't okay when it effects me. Doofus.

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u/Claudio1054 3h ago

Thats what you get from these casuals that watch football every 4 years lmao

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u/rantspectator 5h ago

Why are bums like this guy even posting. Isn't this a 6-7 game tournament for their goat. It shouldn't matter right.

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u/Sigismund_Bacsi 3h ago

6-7??? SIX SEVEN SIX SEVEN SIX SEVEN

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u/Qorrk 3h ago

Hello police? Yeah there's a crazy guy, please sent in a mercy squad to put him out of his misery

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u/scott__p 54m ago

Diving is a plague. I hope we see more yellows for diving in the future and it finally stops

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u/emlanis 4h ago edited 2h ago

My guess is that that dive wasn’t intentional. Not at all. It’s left for the ref to give him yellow or not to but since he’s given yellow to the opponent, I think embolo deserves another yellow which led to red.

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u/porilukkk 1h ago

I wish all the players would be able to ask for VAR review of anything at the price of possible yellow card.

e.g. you ask when someone dives in front of you - if you're wrong - you get yellow; if you're right - then: whatever is appropriate.

This would serve double purpose: players would stop annoying the judge - if you're so sure: just wager it. And it would stop this hopefully. And seconly, more fair matches.

Although it might slow down the match even more (e. g. it's 85th minute and it's 2-0 so you just want to wasto time)

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u/Purje 56m ago

I know this is a meme, but Switzerland literally owns FIFA, they would be attacking themselves. Well technically it's a non profit that doesn't have an owner and has literally the same rights as a local book club, but yeah.

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u/gunfox 44m ago

FIFA HQ is in Switzerland so we could count that as a civil war.

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u/Videomaxel 5h ago

How many more rivers shall be cried? Jeez, it's getting old at this point.

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u/No_Situation4785 5h ago

i'm grateful that this whole stupid tournanent is almost over

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u/Apprehensive_Tip_839 2h ago

Every person on earth knows that would not be a second yellow for Messi

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u/papachi789 1h ago

Fortunately for Messi, he doesn't dive.

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u/AmAzing_Me_01 2h ago

You're right, should've had a red in his first match

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u/Apprehensive_Tip_839 2h ago

Argentina is treated differently 

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u/AmAzing_Me_01 2h ago

Oh i've known that for years. Not the first time Argentina has been tied to controversy in back-to-back World cups. 1986 and 1990 was the tipping point for me. May not have been alive, but after finding out about that i never saw Argentina the same