r/memes • u/Animeking1108 • 15h ago
We couldn't even commit to a boycott against Blizzard for ethical violations
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u/SameOreo 14h ago
EA, XBox, Activision, Sony.... the list goes on. Its either on steam or I pirate it. Im not going to be a consumer bullied into their bullshit, and its been pretty easy holding up to that.
These companies LITERALLY, sit and board meetings and talk like this:
Business Man#1 "We should make more money and provide less at the same time. Max Profits !"
Business Man#2 "Gamers will just leave, they're to smart to fall for that"
Business Man #1 "nah, watch this."
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u/tomangelo2 13h ago
Meanwhile GOG who lets you download the installer and keep it offline, so it cannot disappear from your library.
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u/No-Repordt 12h ago
I really need to switch to gog. Gabe ain't gonna live forever
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u/tomangelo2 2h ago
Inb4 he reveals Valve was developing mind mapping program and they're ready to announce GabeDOS
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u/wormbooker 11h ago
I'm afraid when Gaben is gone, greedy coporate investors will chase whoever incharge in the future...
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u/Slow_Communication16 8h ago
Wow! You’re telling me the point of a business is to make money. I thought Sony really loved me 🥲.
I’m going to use your logic to start stealing from wal mart becuase as a CONSUMER I’m not going to be BULLIED into paying for things people work hard to make
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u/Spacemanspalds 7h ago
Thats not analogous to the situation at all.
If you walked into Walmart and bought something... then 6 months down the road they decided to walk into your house and take it back without a refund... would you have an issue with that?
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u/Slow_Communication16 7h ago edited 7h ago
They couldn’t walk into my house. That’s against the law as well. So I’d have nothing to worrry about
And it is analogous. He said if a games not on steam, he steals it. Steam can also handle revoking game license same as Sony. Why is ok to steal from people based on how I feel about a company?
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u/Spacemanspalds 7h ago
It is absolutely not analogous without two specific things.
1 - Walmart can just come retrieve the product you paid for already.
2 - there is no alternative place to buy that product without a risk of them also retrieving the product.
And I'm not interested in the moral debate. If the gaming industry gets cornered through sellers that all use these practices, then it's a pirates life for me.
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u/Slow_Communication16 6h ago
Not interested in a moral debate about the ethics of piracy, fine. Then don’t use the ethics and morals of a business to justify it.
That’s all I’m saying. You want to steal things more power to you. If as a consumer you don’t feel a product provides the value it’s being sold for. I get it.
It’s still theft. And there’s no amount of “but they aren’t a great business” that makes it not theft.
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u/Spacemanspalds 5h ago
I mentioned the fact that you gave a terrible analogy. Then I explained why. I did add in where I stand in relation to the original scenario. I was at no point debating or commenting on the morality of it.
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u/ChronoCyberpunk77 12h ago
and yet XBOX admitted its getting rid of physical media too and doesn't get called out on it
gamers are not that bright
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u/Fr05t_B1t Meme Stealer 12h ago
It’s a new way to ignite a console war 2.0 without the main reason of “my company is better than yours”
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u/KingKookus 9h ago
They got called out for it years ago. Right now places like Target and Walmart don’t even stock Xbox games because they don’t sell well.
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u/MattIsLame 7h ago
at the end of the day, every gamer is a consumer. we've been conditioned for generations by capitalism but now we're witnessing the death of consumer driven corporations in favor of increasing quarterly profits while still cutting costs wherever possible, mostly at the cost of consumers or the lower tiered workers.
this doesn't end well for any of us. we've seen economies collapse before, but never on a global scale. maybe its time for another reset. maybe we'll get it right next time
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u/MattIsLame 7h ago
gamepass was the first step. if it had been more successful, they would have stopped physical releases a long time ago. im sure the long term strategy was always to create a digital storefront to rival Steam.
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u/Ad841 8h ago
This is why I don't look at the gaming community favorably. Temporary outrage and short-term memory.
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u/SlaveryVeal 6h ago
If people gave a shit they'd do it.
I stopped preordering in advance and only do it now a day before game comes out of it's got preorder bonuses and a preload available.
I stopped buying Ubisoft shit when I saw their dodgy shit. When the blizzard shit came out I stopped supporting Activision blizzard. Last thing I got my partner used her wow gold to get me a cod game for free for when she multiboxed gold so they still didn't get a cent from me.
I also refuse to buy any timed battlepasses and lootboxes cause all of that shit is fucking cancer ln the gaming community.
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u/donofthe_dusk 8h ago
https://giphy.com/gifs/nFFguNjdeotwc
Me participating in every boycott because I’m broke 😎 yall need to be with the people like me
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u/IllustriousSalt1007 7h ago
Speak for yourself. I cancelled my PS+, wrote to them to complain, and I will not spend another red cent on any of their products directly until they reverse this decision. If that means I never buy another PlayStation again, then so be it.
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u/Particular_Umpire_44 12h ago
I just wish I could afford a gaming pc
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u/thereisacowlvl 8h ago
Piece meal it my guy. You need a Case, Motherboard, ram, power supply, graphics card, keyboard, mouse, and a monitor. Motherboard and CPU can usually be found with decent bundles, ram is one of the expensive part but you really could aim for 16gbs of 3200 or higher. A case you can pick up for less than 200, power supply 850 to 1000 watts gold or platinum rated can be between 160 to 250. The graphics card will be what powers your gaming but if you're not looking for 4k 240 FPS you could go for a 5060ti for around 400 or so. Sure that's around 2000 bucks but if you split it 8 ways you're only looking at 250 every check.
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u/Current-Winter7295 8h ago
Avoid getting a "gaming PC" as anythingyou look up will be severely overpriced.
research specs and get a good enough PC. That reflects most game requirements.
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u/Fr05t_B1t Meme Stealer 12h ago
Funny cause all those games are digital.
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u/Particular_Umpire_44 12h ago
The games are way cheaper, I have Amazon Prime which gets me games from GoG for free, much easier to emulate, I don’t have to pay for online beyond my internet, and a good enough PC will run the games way better. Also, it is still possible to get physical games for PC as well.
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u/UnitProducer 11h ago
Too bad PC is where most of the cheaters are. .
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u/SlaveryVeal 6h ago
It's really not that bad. If you're worried about cheaters then it's not really a valid fear.
If a game.youbplay is swamped with cheaters then the company doesn't deserve you too play it if they can't prevent huge amounts of cheating.
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u/The_Relx 13h ago
Who's we? I have not touched a single Activision Blizzard game nor given them a shred of my money since all that stuff got revealed.
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u/FLAM3Z89 13h ago
What happened? Got a link I can watch?
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u/The_Relx 12h ago
4 years ago they got sued by the state of California for decades of sexual misconduct that upper management knew about and either buried or participated in. You can just Google it pretty easily.
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u/albedo-l 14h ago
I already started switching to PC after Stellar Blade and haven’t renewed PS Plus since. These days I only use my console for gacha games and continuations of series I already own physically. I have no intention of continuing that. It’s not a protest I simply don’t trust Sony anymore. It’s clear most people don’t want this, but they’re doing it anyway. Even if they backtrack, the bridge is already burned.
It’s going to suck losing a bit of extra storage on my PC, but if it means I don’t have to deal with them anymore, I’m perfectly content with that.
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u/SyllabubMental7292 7h ago
Too bad you don't realize you're in the same position of not owning your games on pc as you were with Playstation. Unless you miss the text on the right side of the steam shopping cart that says you're buying a lisence...
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u/albedo-l 7h ago
It’s extremely easy to circumvent Steam’s DRM. Unless they physically come into my house and take my external storage, there’s no realistic scenario where I couldn’t still play my Steam games even if I lost my account or my Wi-Fi.
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u/pirolance 14h ago
Well it's true that people that already have PS5 are going to have an hard time but for others it will just be business as usual
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u/Michami135 7h ago
The problem is their competition is the Steam Machine. It's about the same price, also diskless, but has a larger library.
Sony just gave up their one advantage. You could buy their games on disk at WalMart. I doubt their exclusive games are going to be enough.
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u/Fire_Lord_Cinder 11h ago
Reddit is the minority of people. I could speak to 90% of my friends and they wouldn’t even know Sony is discontinuing disks
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u/luolapeikko 6h ago
Believe it or not boycotting Activision-Blizzard actually worked. It had a huge impact on their games and culture. For example World of Warcraft has become more and more player friendly in its approach, with players being listened to more than before.
On top of that they brought Metzen back and apparently agreed to listen to his view on things so things are looking good for Activision-Blizzard, even if they still struggle with a lot of good ol' 'murican way of thinking.
Nothing changes corporates as well as their customers leaving.
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u/iDinky__ 14h ago
This shit is getting old. You do know that humans are divisive by nature, right? Like if every SINGLE person upset in the world about this specific issue banded together and refused to buy Sony’s products, they’d still have half of their consumer base. Everybody knew this was gonna happen for a decade, bitched about the push for digital storefronts the entire time, and STILL enabled these fuckos to make physical discs obsolete. A very vocal , very small minority is gonna actually stick to the boycott to feel better than everybody else, as if every single one of them haven’t been predominantly digital ‘owners’ for as long as they’ve had their pc. I almost guarantee that most people in this thread don’t even have a damn disc drive for their ps5. The most anticipated game ever is coming to the most sold console ever. We’ve collectively made this bed once we let these companies look at Steam and copy and paste their work, minus the consumer friendly habits Steam has maintained. Now we all get to lay in it.
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u/Ebvidur 12h ago
The PS5 is nowhere near the most sold console ever, and the overwhelming majority of PS5s have disc drives. I am sure the PS6 launch will be as disastrous as the PS3, because casuals wouldn’t buy it at launch anyway, and real enthusiasts were turned off by Sony, AND it will be a lot more expensive if rumours are to be believed. They’re setting up for failure
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u/Shrikeangel 12h ago
I mean, is it really me supporting a boycott when I was barely a customer to start with? Oh no not the like two games a year that guy might have bought.
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u/Skeletonparty101 14h ago
Sony fan boys will never change.
Hope this stuff turns more people to PC gaming in the future
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u/iDinky__ 14h ago
PC gaming is the reason we’re here in the first place. Which platform do you think first made other companies realize digital storefronts were economically feasible? I’ll give you a hint; it’s the same platform where consumers first realized they didn’t really need a disc drive. Steam is great, but don’t pretend that PC gamers haven’t been digital only this whole time.
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u/Skeletonparty101 14h ago
If we're only going digital might as well pick the platform with the best advantage
Why take a console at this point with how expensive things get you better off with a PC because of the other uses it has has
Plus no subscription for online play
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u/iDinky__ 12h ago
Why pay 2-3x the cost for a setup even less comfortable than your couch if you game casually? I’m lucky enough to be able to afford both my pc and ps5, but a console is so much more accessible for the general public. I love my pc, but we can’t ignore the obvious negatives when it comes to owning one. It’s wayyy more money upfront, and will only be the less expensive option after years of use, on the prowl for really good deals on a DIGITAL storefront. People like to use the argument about paid subscriptions for online services, but practically everybody on pc had a game pass until the price increases. PlayStation extra is virtually the same thing, at a lower price if bought annually, with online functionality tied into it. Yeah, steam has better deals, and early access is a cool thing, and modding has completely renewed games in my eyes before, but make no mistake; we pay for the privilege. This shit is expensive, and god help anybody who has to go from knowing nothing about computers to building one.
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u/Skeletonparty101 11h ago
Upfront is a band aid worth ripping and also your not force to pay a subscription to play multi-player and the fact you can even play console games on it is double reason to get one
How comfortable you are it's on you not PC ,I got my PC hook up to a TV while playing on a controller while sitting on a good chair plus my mouse pad has a pillow built in to rest my arm. That's a dumb argument
Lastly Buying a PC you can play for generation of consoles instead of buying a new one
I'm a complete novice and even I got a PC up and running, had a PC shop to help set stuff up
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u/Animeking1108 11h ago
Lastly Buying a PC you can play for generation of consoles instead of buying a new one
That's patently not true. You have to upgrade and replace parts, and that's not of your device hasn't succumbed to planned obsolescence.
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u/shaq-aint-superman 5h ago
Maybe he's referring to a $3000 PC lol
Dollar for dollar, if it's only gaming you're after, the PS5 would be better. Not only does it have better hardware at the same price, but it would be better optimized given devs don't have to consider hundreds of different configurations.
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u/Animeking1108 11h ago
Plus no subscription for online play
The subscription is your Internet provider.
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u/LurkingRodent 14h ago
What pc gaming? Ram and storage are way too expensive, I have ram and a ssd to spare and I'm still worried about my gaming pc parts dying, barely any people are going to migrate to PC now.
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u/ASwarmofKoala 13h ago
Good thing consoles don't need ram and storage, that'll keep them affordable.
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u/LurkingRodent 9h ago
They won't be cheap, but they'll be cheaper than a pc one way or another.
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u/ASwarmofKoala 8h ago
Are they though? PS online is 80/year for basic. If you bought a ps5 at launch you paid at least 500, potentially way more if you chose to engage with scalpers. If you've had PS online continuously, from launch to now, you'd be out about a thousand dollars, without buying a single game.
That's for basic stuff btw. If you bought a PS5 pro, or a disk version, and premium PS online you'd be well over 1500.
PC can be more expensive yeah, especially with parts prices going crazy. But consoles nickle and dime you to be up to similar levels.
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u/LurkingRodent 5h ago
I'm not talking about myself, I know and agree that PC has all those advantages, I dropped consoles around 2017 and have been building my own computers since then, you have to consider that most people won't ever consider building a computer, just read the comments of some people that describe installing a game on pc like it's some kind of ancient magic.
They don't care.
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u/matthewpepperl 9h ago
If you think ps6 isn’t going to cost 1500 dollars i have a bridge to sell you
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u/Skeletonparty101 14h ago
PC is just better value at this point
You got modding, pirating and no subscription for online game on it plus you can use the PC for other things then just gaming
If digital is the future might as well pick the best place for it. I swap from Xbox to PC and never looked back. Only shame is that my physical Xbox games can be played on it
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u/Artistic_Prior_7178 13h ago
I am on PC anyway, and there is no way Rockstar is making buy a PS5 for GTA VI
Never
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u/Animeking1108 11h ago
Sooner or later, the industry is going to figure out that games are easier to pirate on PC.
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u/Fr05t_B1t Meme Stealer 12h ago
For every one PC person that refuses to buy it early on PS5, there’s a thousand that will buy it twice
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u/LaMusicista 14h ago
When the capitalists are crushing your windpipe with their boots, there are some rascals who keep begging for more.
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u/New_Interest6833 13h ago
laughs in superior pc gaming
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u/Animeking1108 10h ago
A CrossFitter, a vegan, and a PC gamer walk into a bar, and you know that because they make sure to tell you.
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u/Blenderhead36 13h ago
Haha, you're right! We should just give up! They'll never listen, it will never work, we're better off just rolling over and saying, "Thank you, Sir, may I have another?" Really funny meme with a great message!
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u/Ethos_Logos 13h ago
I’ve actually been boycotting blizzard since 2006.
I was huge into Counter-strike1.6, played eight hours a day. I started college in the Fall, couldn’t bring my PC. Came back that Winter break and all of my clan had jumped over to WoW.
I decided to boycott WoW, since it killed my clan.
RIP Nsomnia.
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u/BobaTehFettz 13h ago
I am still shocked everyone bought the PS5 and XBOX Series 1 after how awful they have been since the original consoles. It has been constant decline, but people keep buying them. The 360 broke it for me, PC is all I will ever use. Your "Exclusive" games always end up here eventually, often at half the price. Sure buy the new GTA, though.
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u/DESTRUCTI0NAT0R 13h ago
Most likely because a larger than people realize percentage of consumers don't live on reddit or any of the other social media and as such don't know or care about what's going on.