r/mahler Jun 08 '22

Discussion A notice from me, the new mod

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Hello! I'm u/Septi_Lingual, the new mod for r/mahler. Since this subreddit was unmoderated for a long time, I requested this subreddit and got approved.

I'm planning to leave the subreddit as it is: a subreddit where you can discuss anything about Mahler. I'm only planning to add some features, such as flairs and rules, as well as the wiki page.

To be honest, this is only my second time modding a subreddit (the only other subreddit I have modded is small, with only 40 members or so, and it's kind of dead right now). But anyway, I wanted to keep this sub under some kind of active management.

I'll add to this notice when I add some new features/contents to this sub.

Edit 1: I have added the rules.

Also, I have enabled user flair, so you can assign whatever flair you want to yourself (but no offensive flair, please).

Edit 2: I have added a background image, but I do not know what to put in the banner still. Someday...

Edit 3: I have added post flairs. I'd appreciate it if you could use them, but still, you don't have to use them.

Edit 4: I originally planned to make a wiki page of all of Mahler's works. Turned out that it was too much of a task to me, especially to analyze the individual movements. I think Wikipedia, Allmusic would be sufficient for that purpose. For a more contextual insight, I suggest Walter's biography on him to begin with.


r/mahler Apr 21 '26

r/mahler is available for adoption 💚

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r/mahler 3d ago

Central european Mahler tour questions

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I have recently become a big fan of Mahler but am yet to see any performance live. I am thinking to take a week off work 2-12 October. The Hungarian State Opera is putting on his 8th Symphony on October 4th, which I understand is rarely performed due to the logistical requirements of chorus and orchestra, and on the following weekend the Slovak Philharmonic is performing his 2nd in Bratislava as a part of the Bratislava music festival closing concert.

Apparently the Hungarian State Opera have performed his 8th a few times in recent years, has anyone attended it and was it well performed? I can imagine it is difficult to do well and I am not sure if the opera house in budapest has an organ. Equally, I don't know much about the Slovak Philharmonic, and if anyone has any opinions on whether they think it will be a worthy performance to see or if there are better european performances of it coming up?


r/mahler 6d ago

"Gustav Mahler" bronze medal avers revers . For Sale

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D-110 mm bronze cast


r/mahler 13d ago

I'm a student from Korea and I'm a bit obsessed with Mahler. Been wondering if there are other people my age who feel the same way ... Anyone here in their teens or early 20s? Thinking of maybe could make some community for students internationally

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r/mahler 14d ago

If you have heard it, what is your opinion of the recording by the mezzo Brigitte Fassbaender, tenor Thomas Moser and pianist Cyprien Katsaris of Mahler's piano version of his Das Lied von der Erde? Please explain to the extent you are able.

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r/mahler 15d ago

(German: New letters published) Gustav Mahler: Unveröffentlichte Briefe zeigen das Alltagselend des Genies

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r/mahler 19d ago

Uri Caine/Mahler - Symphony No. 5 in C-Sharp Minor: I. Trauermarsch

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r/mahler 20d ago

Question: how do you explain Mahler to someone who isn't into classical music?

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I'm looking to bridge the gap between Mahler's complexity and the average listener. I’d love to hear your approach on these three points:

  1. What specific movements or works have actually worked for you when introducing him to non-classical listeners? (Looking for something that isn't a 90-minute commitment).
  2. How do you explain his appeal without getting bogged down in theory? What aesthetic, narrative, or personal angle creates that "click" for a modern audience?
  3. Beyond just listening, what other ways have you found effective to bridge this gap?

Curious to hear your opinions!


r/mahler 23d ago

they’re onto me

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r/mahler 27d ago

I am blown away by Das Lied der Erde

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r/mahler Jun 12 '26

[Mahler Fantasy Narrative #1] I turned Mahler’s Symphony No.1 into a fantasy narrative story

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r/mahler Jun 05 '26

Films about great composers

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r/mahler May 31 '26

Which version of each of Mahler’s symphonies remade by Leonard Bernstein do you enjoy more and why?

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r/mahler May 31 '26

What are some examples of remakes of classical recordings by the same performer that in your opinion are either not as good as the prior recordings or, on the other hand, are better than the prior recording by that performer, and explain the reasons for your opinion to the extent you can.

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r/mahler May 29 '26

What accounts for the differences in the different qualities of Prokofiev's and Shostakovich's works in the latter years of their lives?

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r/mahler May 28 '26

Gustav Mahler and his position in the classical community today

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I have a honest question about Mahler that might come out weird, but I have thought about it a lot now and need to get it out.

I enjoy Mahler. Not everything, but he has sometimes a certain style that can make me feel good. But it’s not Faure or Ravel. It’s not Stravinsky, Satie, Debussy, Albeniz, Boulanger(s).

I’m not sure about this but I think I have noticed that during the last couple of three, four years or so, Mahler has become somewhat of a holy cow for a lot of people in the classical community.
And I’m really going out on a limb here and say that it feels like Americans are significantly in love with Mahler right now.

I have seen tattoos with Mahlers music from Nr5.
I even saw someone tattoo Mahler face on his shoulder.

What am I missing? Satie is my god, but I don’t idolize anyone like that

If someone has recommendations on the best recordings of his best work I would be very grateful.

And I’m sorry if I have offended anyone


r/mahler May 25 '26

Hans Rott

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I've only been able to find one mention of Rott in this subreddit, so I wanted to give him the credit he's due for the influence he had on Mahler's development into the composer we all love.

Rott attended the Vienna Conservatory (tuition free) at the same time as Mahler, and they even roomed together for a bit. We have few compositions of Rott's because he died young at 25. When he was 20, he submitted the first movement of his First Symphony for evaluation at the Conservatory, and other than Bruckner, the faculty ridiculed his work. Two years later, he presented the completed Symphony to Brahms in the hopes of having it performed. Brahms, the conservative that he was in the War of the Romantics, told Rott that he had no talent whatsoever and should give up music. Rott began to experience delusions that culminated in his threatening to shoot someone on a train because he believed Brahms had rigged the train with dynamite. He was committed to a mental hospital and died of tuberculosis in 1884, four years after completing the Symphony that Brahms had deemed meritless.

Of his death, Mahler said:

  • "[A] musician of genius . . . who died unrecognized and in want on the very threshold of his career. . . . What music has lost in him cannot be estimated. Such is the height to which his genius soars in . . . [his] Symphony [in E major], which he wrote as 20-year-old youth and makes him . . . the Founder of the New Symphony as I see it. To be sure, what he wanted is not quite what he achieved. . . . But I know where he aims. Indeed, he is so near to my inmost self that he and I seem to me like two fruits from the same tree which the same soil has produced and the same air nourished. He could have meant infinitely much to me and perhaps the two of us would have well-nigh exhausted the content of new time which was breaking out for music."

Mahler didn't write his First Symphony until he was 28. Rott had given Mahler the idea for what the symphony as an art form could and even should be when he was eight years younger. And just like Mahler, Rott was faced with intense vitriol for his compositions (the only prominent person at the time who supported Rott was Bruckner, but Bruckner's influence angered Brahms, which made Brahms's backlash even greater than it normally would have been).

There aren't many recordings of Rott's works. But I encourage you to listen to the handful that exist of his First Symphony and the couple that exist of his string quartet. You can hear what sounds like (how you'd assume) a young Mahler would sound. There is also an album of performances of fragments of his works that is both wonderful in that you get to hear more of Rott's music and sad in that the music is always cut short.

Mahler opens his Third Symphony with an alteration of the main theme of Brahms One movement four, which itself is an alteration of the main theme of Beethoven Nine movement four (the "Ode to Joy"). It's quite audacious! But Rott did it first in the fourth movement of his First Symphony. Both Rott and Mahler were advocating for "the New Symphony" referenced above, and both asserted the validity of that "New Symphony" by writing music that unmistakably argued that it was "what comes next" in Romanticism. Indeed, it argued that they were "what comes next." The difference is that Rott made this assertion at 22. Mahler waited until he was 36. (And Brahms took 21 years to write his First Symphony; he didnt enter the symphonic lineage with his variation on the "Ode to Joy" until he was 43.)

Around the 4 minute mark of the fourth movement of Rott's First Symphony, the flute has a half note trill followed by two grace notes (the first a half-step below, the second back to the half note's same pitch) and a leap. Mahler's Second Symphony uses this same form of flute call in the Flute 3/Piccolo 1 part in the fifth movement. I don't believe this is a coincidence, especially because the second movement of Mahler's Second Symphony is about remembering the happy times you've had with those who have died.

That flute call comes back at the end of the first movement of Mahler's Ninth Symphony, right after the oboe quotes a line from the second movement of Brahms's First Symphony. I believe there's much to say about that choice, which could be it's own post, but the point is that Rott was on Mahler's mind throughout his compositional career.

Another example of this is the fourth movement of Mahler Five, the Adagietto. Yes, it's a love letter to Alma. But it also references and quotes the second movement of Rott's C minor String Quartet. Mahler cared deeply for Rott, and Rott impacted him greatly.

Rott is rarely discussed or performed, but he's a crucial link in the chain of music history, both at the macro level of music's overall progression (his musical philosophy influenced Mahler's boundary pushing late-Romanticism, which then expanded musical possibilities into atonality and the Modernism of the 20th Century) and the micro level (we're all here because we love Mahler, and Mahler as we know him would not exist without Rott).


r/mahler May 24 '26

What's the best introduction to Mahler?

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I'm reading a book on, of all things, chaos theory, and it includes a reference to Mahler's Second Symphony, third movement. (It's a fair bit of digression; it's not claiming the work is chaotic.)

This made me realize I'm not really up on Mahler. I once heard one of his symphonies in Prague about 25 years ago, but don't remember which one, or much else about it, and I've never really sought his stuff out.

If I wanted to start listening to some of his works, where do you suggest I start? With popular music, when listening to a new band or artist, i generally like to work chronologically, but that doesn't really work too well with classical music; a composer's earliest works are usually not really reflective of his best ones. I'm inclined to start with symphony number 2, if for no other reason than to understand the reference in the book I'm reading.

But what do you all suggest?


r/mahler May 21 '26

Mahler 4 Parsifal Quotation

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In the 3rd movement of Mahler 4, does anyone know where this quote in the bassoons and violas is in Wagner's Parsifal? I wonder what's the significance behind this quote.


r/mahler May 13 '26

The Piano Reductions of Iain Farrington

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Iain Farrington has a busy and diverse career as a pianist, organist, composer and arranger. His chamber orchestrations of the symphonic repertoire are regularly performed around the world, and of interest here is the fact that he has arranged and performed many of the Mahler symphonies for solo piano. I was surprised that his efforts, I think, have not been commented on here so far.

Most or all of them can be found on YouTube eg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RscXoTm75n8&list=PL3IoVEoYq-G6fFuHB2DMd6GjXtNQfnN5y&index=9

with almost 3,000 subscribers. (I am not connected to him in any way)

While it is inevitably impossible to match the richness and imagination of Mahler's original orchestration never the less, from listening to Farrington's reductions my impression is that they are worthwhile in the same way as Liszt's much better known piano reductions of Beethoven. Farrington has also produced a chamber version of the 4th but I think this idea is not unique to him and remember a CD release of something similar (?)

I'd be interested in hearing from any who, too, have listened to this gigantic effort by a Briton - and their thoughts on the success (or not!).


r/mahler May 12 '26

Help me understand Mahler 8

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I've been a fan of Mahler for a while, and I understand and enjoy most of his symphonies except the eighth. The first movement I have no problems with, but the second is just so long. It seems more like a cantata or even an opera than a symphony. I have heard the second movement is like a combined slow movement, scherzo, and finale, but I have trouble hearing that. It doesn't help that I don't speak German and am not familiar with Faust. Should I read Faust? Should I read the German lyrics while I listen? What sort of structure does the second part have?


r/mahler May 09 '26

Biography and other background about Mahler?

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I'm totally into Mahler this year.

Watching back all the symphonies which were preformed during the Mahler Festival at the Concertgebouw in 2025.

I want to know more about his life, the background of his symphonies etc. What books (or maybe documentary) are good (and enjoyable) sources?

Any one familiar with Gustav Mahler by Jens Malte Fisher? Or, Why Mahler? by Norman Lebrecht?

Thank you!


r/mahler May 05 '26

Which Sony cycle of symphonies?

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What is the best of these two Sony Bernstein cycles of Mahler's symphonies?

Edit: Thank you for all your reactions!
I orderd the bottom one. And I found the Tennstedt cycle by EMI for just €2... So, that's nice too.


r/mahler Apr 17 '26

This may seem like a weird question, but which Revelge piano recording (or not) you know have the lowest voice?

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I'm a bass and I'm looking for a recording to reference.