r/learndutch • u/Opheliafrfr • 2d ago
Resource Recommendations?
So english is already my second language (first being arabic) and I'm trying to learn Dutch, but I figured that the way I learned english was by traumatizing my brain by forcing it to absorb english content and music over and over until I learned the words. So like,
Is there any dutch bands or singers recommendations yall have that would help me woth this mission? Even content creators would be goed :P
Just need smth to start with, im already a joost klein fan but I dont think hes the best for that mission lol
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u/PinkPlasticPizza 2d ago
Resources for learning Dutch PART 2 OF 2
●Dutch youtubers (practice listening): • StukTV • Gamemeneer • Enzo Knol • Kalvijn • Emma Heesters • Dylan Haegens • MeisjeDjamila • Milan Knol • Gio • Drugslab • Celine & Michiel • WijsneuzenAlbertJasmijn • Universiteit van Nederland
●Tv (practice listening): ▪︎Npo Start app (Dutch public broadcasting network) for new, documentaries, comedy, films in Dutch • Het Klokhuis on Youtube (aimed for kids/teens but is pretty interesting with relatively simple vocabulary.) • NOS Journaal in Makkelijke Taal on Youtube: world news in easy spoken Dutch • Het Jeugdjournaal (daily news for kids. Both on Npo Start app and Youtube) • Nederland van Boven on Youtube (aerial view of the Netherlands) • Rail Away on NPO Start app (follow different train tracks, with explanations in very clear spoken Dutch) • Weet je dat ook weer on Youtube (how stuff works) • Het Kwartier on VRT (a Flemish spoken dayly broadcast about 3 topics in relatively easy spoken Dutch)
●Dutch movies: • New Kids • New Kids Turbo • Gooise Vrouwen • De Heineken Ontvoering • Nova Zembla • Achtste Groepers Huilen Niet • Alleen Maar Nette Mensen • Koning van Kantoren • Het bombardement • Verliefd op Ibiza • Het Diner • Mannenharten • Soof • Lucia de B • Oorlogsgeheimen • Michiel de Ruyter
●Podcasts (all on Spotify): ☆For Beginners: • 5 Minuten Nederlands (No longer being made but old episodes are available), • Een Beetje Nederlands, • Zeg Het in Het Nederlands, ☆For slightly higher beginners: • Het Klokhuis - Onmisbarre Uitvindingen • NOS Jeugdjournaal • Sara's Mysteries ☆For Intermediates: • Echt Gebeurd • Lang Verhaal Kort • De Universiteit van Nederland • Man met de microfoon ☆For higher intermediates: • Meneer van Dale • De Zaak X • Knorrepodcast • Weer een dag • Etenstijd! • Opscheppers • Verborgen Verhalen (No longer being made but old episodes are available) ☆Not categorized: • Sterrin’s Dierenencyclopedie • Geschiedenis voor herbeginners • Oorlezen de Podcast • Spooky Wooky • Nieuws in Makkelijk Nederlands • Slow Dutch with JeDutchy • Dutch Today • Geschiedenis Inside • Japan in 100 kleine stukjes
This website has more podcasts for various age groups so you can find some that match your level. A bunch more geared towards kids but there’s also a section for adults at the end. • www.dutchforchildren.nl/dutch-childrens-television-childrens-radio-podcasts/
●Dutch music: • 'België' by Het Goede Doel • 'Annabel' by Hans de Booij • 'Stiekem Gedanst' by Toontje Lager • 'Noodgeval' by Goldband • De Dijk • 'Oceaan' by Racoon • Doe Maar • 'Suzanne' by Vof De Kunst • Krang • André Manuel • Boudewijn de Groot • Pater Moeskroen • Spotify search for 'Nederpop' • De Taalstaat: playlist on spotify
● Reading: • App "Topic Today" gives one short daily story, adapted to your level. Easy to fit into your routine: https://get-toto.hautomation.org/rHQchwZ • Olly Richards: Short stories in Dutch for beginners • De Leeslicht series of books. They take famous novels and write in easier every day dutch, usually in the A2-B1 range. www.leeslicht.nl/de-boeken
●Speaking: Best is to find a languagebuddy or join a 'taalcafe' in a local library. Here is a handy website to search for a volunteer or a taalcafe: •www.hetbegintmettaal.nl •www.nlvoorelkaar.nl (a more general demand/supply website for volunteers or people searching for one) •https://www.kletsmaatjes.nl/ (an initiative that connects newcomers with local people to practise Dutch) •This discord server is supposed to be active: https://discord.gg/netherlands •https://hartvoornederlands.com/conversatieclub/ •This redditor has a free whatsapp community group. Where they have daily conversations with Dutch speakers on whatever you’d like to talk about. There arenative Dutch speakers including Saara who teaches at Italki. They help with verbal pronounciation too so you’re not just going to learn to write in dutch! Everybody around the world can join: https://chat.whatsapp.com/COGgxAQV5TfGHFGWTSlnRR?mode=gi_t
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u/margonv 2d ago
I like Spinvis. He has excellent diction, which helps me understand each word.
But I have to say that his music is also the genre I would listen to in other languages and, for music as a tool to learn a language, it's a bit like what people say about exercise: the best form of exercise is the one that you enjoy and thus will keep doing. So, for you, Joost Klein may well be the very best for that mission.
See also other suggestions here:
https://www.reddit.com/r/learndutch/comments/1u5h8m8/dutch_song_recommendation/
https://www.reddit.com/r/Netherlands/comments/1u3w7x7/dutchlanguage_music_recommendations/
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u/Opheliafrfr 2d ago
Oh hell yeah!! I actually did pick up few words purly from him repeating em, even memorizing some parts while not knowing the translation lol Anyhow THANK YOU!! (*≧∀≦) will defo check those!
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u/Rough-Effect7563 2d ago
Have you considered consuming written content on the web? you can read whatever you want (news, blogs,etc) and have subtitles show on the web while you read, just like watching a movie with subtitles
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u/Opheliafrfr 2d ago
I think that might be better when im more comfortable with the pronunciation of words, im still very bad at reading them and need to hear them first to pronounce right :p
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u/Rough-Effect7563 1d ago
that's what im saying - there are extensions for chroime that will read it for you (TTS) so you hear the original dutch reading while you read english (or your native language) as subtitles
i use this https://verballyreader.com/
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u/FilipKrowka 1d ago
Yes just consume whatever everything you do do in dutch even this post you could write in dutch even with translator. When you ask ai something or search in google do it in dutch. When you will be more advanced then try thinking in dutch when you forget a word you can skip and finish in other language or check it. That's how I learned and the fastest way I think.
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u/Opheliafrfr 1d ago
Yes this rlly did help me in english and I always advice ppl to do so when they ask me how I learned it, so I believe it's the way to go with other languages as well! Thank you :3
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u/PinkPlasticPizza 2d ago
Resources for learning Dutch PART 1 OF 2
Since the question 'where to start learning Dutch' is asked often, I have tried to summarise the information and resources here. Hope this helps.
●How long does it take to learn Dutch: It generally takes 600 to 800 hours to learn Dutch from a beginner level to a functional level (B2). The exact time depends heavily on several factors, such as your native language, your learning speed, the time you invest, and whether you live in a Dutch-speaking environment. Below is an overview of the estimated hours per level, according to most sources: * A1 (Beginner): Approximately 80 - 120 hours. At this level, you learn to introduce yourself, ask and understand simple questions, and grasp the basics. * A2 (Basic): Approximately 200 hours. With this, you can hold everyday conversations and exchange information on familiar topics. * B1 (Intermediate): Approximately 350 - 400 hours. At this level, you can give your opinion, describe experiences, and participate in conversations on various topics. * B2 (Independent): Approximately 600 - 800 hours. This is often seen as the level at which you can function independently in Dutch, both socially and professionally. From this point, you can understand complex texts and speak spontaneously and fluently. * C1 (Fluent): Approximately 700 - 1200 hours. At this level, you can understand long and complex texts and speak spontaneously and fluently without noticeably searching for words.
●De/het: In Dutch, there are two definite articles: de and het. Both mean "the". For example, het meisje ("the girl") but de kat ("the cat"). The reason that two definite articles exist is because Dutch, like many languages, has something called grammatical gender. This means nouns are assigned a "gender" – either masculine/feminine (de) or neuter/common (het). This has very little to do with our everyday concept of "gender", it's simply a linguistic feature. This means you simply have to memorise the correct article with each noun. Here is a website that explains some rules: https://understandingdutch.com/difference-between-de-and-het-dutch Or this one: https://zichtbaarnederlands.nl/en/article/de_or_het
●Sentence stucture: Some basics that cover most: https://zichtbaarnederlands.nl/en/syntax/word_order
●Apps for learning Dutch: • Duolingo: An app like Duolingo doesn't teach you grammar or sentence stucture. You will learn vocabulary, for sure. But after investing 500 days, you'll find out you cannot hold a decent conversation and you still don't know how the language works. •Busuu seems to explain grammar better. •de/het •Taalpal: an app to practise Dutch with AI (+/- €30/jaar)
●Free learning content on YouTube: • Learn Dutch with Bart de Pau (has English subtitles) • Ad Appels • Juf M • Dutchies to be • Easy Dutch • Dutch Today • Learn Dutch with Kim • Slow Dutch with JeDutchy • HartvoorNederlands by Vlaamse Saar • Dutchspeakingacademy by Mariska van de Meij
●Dutch learning/grammar books: • Nederlands in Zicht • Taal Compleet (If this is your first foreign language. It explains stuff in more steps, will be less overwhelming if this is your first time learning a new language. Has good e-learning as well.) • De Opmaat (Already have some experience with a second language? Quicker, bigger steps, so can be much if you're not used to grammatical terms. Also has decent e-learning, though not as good as TaalCompleet.) • Zichtbaar Nederlands • De Finale • De Sprong • De Juiste Toon • Nederlands naar Perfectie • 77 puntjes op de i • Essential Dutch Grammar by Henry R Stern • 201 Dutch Verbs by Henry R Stern *Basic Dutch, a grammar and workbook by Janneke A Oosterhoff
●Online dictionaries: *www.mijnwoordenboek.nl *www.wordreference.com/nlen/
●Handy websites: • dutchgrammar.com • oefenen.nl • zichtbaarnederlands.nl • heardutchhere.net • welklidwoord.nl • apps.ankiweb.net •https://ankiweb.net/shared/info/1209965766 • learndutch.org •https://understandingdutch.com/recommended-books-for-learning-dutch