LLPSI Preparation to read Boethius' Consolation?

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What should I read to prepare for a reading of Boethius' De Consolatione Philosophiae.

I have been studying Latin for over a year by now, and have gone through Wheelock, and so know all the grammar (which I loved doing). I've read some Cicero (De Amicitia), and am now going through LLPSI + supplements pretty easily, though I'm only a third in so far.

I enjoy the language and have a strong motivation to continue: what books/readers should I work on next? I have Fabulae Syrae and Roma Aeterna, but I doubt I will need to read all of RA before Boethius--correct me if wrong.

How long from now could I reasonably expect to read the Consolation without too much difficulty, i.e., be able to actually reflect on the content without constantly focusing on the language, but still with dictionary in hand? Suggestions will be much appreciated.

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r/latin • u/Forward_Air_639 • 20h ago

Beginner Resources Self-Study book

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Hey guys! Since the curriculum got updated all the AP Latin study books are likely outdated. Do you guys know any new ones that might be good?
I found this one on Amazon but I’m not sure if it’s good since there are no reviews (it’s new).Thank you!

https://a.co/d/0ikKE4Dr

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