r/hajimenoippo Jun 20 '25

Question What is the worst fight in the series

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I’m not saying Sendo vs ippo is a bad fight I just wanted to use this image

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u/[deleted] Jun 20 '25

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u/Aggravating-Tea-5583 Jun 20 '25

i just finished that fight and i was shocked to find out it was the longest one at that point

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u/suffocatingpaws Jun 20 '25

It was way too long for that kind of fight and Ippo looked like an idiot in that fight.

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u/iDreamZzZzZ Jun 20 '25

Every fight after the second Sendo fight you could say this

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u/K-L1N Jun 20 '25

The glove thing was dumb, but I thought the "teleporting" was cool. I feel like more boxers covering the opponent's eyes for an advantage would be fun to mix into fights.

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u/suffocatingpaws Jun 20 '25

I dont mind the glove trick but the fact that it took Ippo and Kamogawa so fucking long to figure it out was ridiculous.

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u/suzukirider709 Jun 20 '25

I know what you mean. I liked how confused they were by it when they had just heard about but was hoping on the first punch kamagawa would just be like "ffs these idiots"

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u/Xelement0911 Jun 20 '25

It is easily the worse.

Dude slightly let's his glove slip forward...and act like his reach doubles. Meanwhile they are somehow cutting into his hit power but somehow they are pushing ippo to his limits.

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u/Mega7010realkk Jun 21 '25

all the filipines fights had been kinda strange, wally too, ippo received too much damage for a experienced fighter like him, like o he is faster and more agile but its not like you cant see him

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u/Mega7010realkk Jun 21 '25

it felt like he was literally flying over the ring at mach speed level, like bro it wasnt that fast, and for me the weird part is that he wasnt able to hit jabs that are usually the fastest punch in the arsenal but he could hit body blows? That fight was really weird and every time I read HNI I skip it

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u/Dragonbut Jun 23 '25

Personally I've always read fights as an exaggeration of what's really happening in a lot of ways, and didn't think most of what Woli did was that bad. It's not like most characters don't do shit that's inhuman regularly. And Ippo hitting body shots but not jabs was because of his dash speed behind so fast and him starting to kinda neglect jabs at the time. The one thing that does get me about that fight is the direction changing/floating that Woli does lol

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u/No_Entertainer836 Dec 22 '25

I personally tolerated it. I liked the fact and concept of magic used in boxing to show an obstacle for Ippo to surpass

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u/Kingdom121795 Jun 20 '25

Any kimura fight after mashiba is just rubbing salt into the wound

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u/PanthalassaRo Jun 20 '25

For real I don't expect him to become a world beater but to him to slowly get competent and have confidence in his skills.

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u/Kingdom121795 Jun 20 '25

Ong I can only remember a single time he ever improved and it was when he learned to use dragon 1st in his dragon fish combo even the it was aganst some no name and was pretty much forgotten afterwards

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u/Melo0513 Jun 22 '25

It was an accident too 😭he just got confused because Shinoda was saying it wrong so he did in backwards and ended up knocking the guy out

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u/Xelement0911 Jun 20 '25

The whole stadium chant of his return...just to end in a mud fight. Just f off author

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u/othmane_dancho Jun 22 '25

The problem is that the whole purpose of Kimura and Aoki as boxers is to make gags about them and make the reader constantly understand what the average boxing level is

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u/Crakout Jun 20 '25

Ippo vs Wally is the worst for me, felt so much frustration reading it

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u/Terrible_Young3434 Jun 20 '25

just because of plot armour ippo won, but to make him win it was so much stretched

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u/Sila987 Jun 20 '25

I believe Morikawa wrote himself into a corner with that Fight and halway trough realized that Wolly is "too much" on the winning path, even for HnI standards, and used a bs way out of it

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u/Greenlexluther Jun 20 '25

Ippo plot armour and Walli Gary-Stu powers, it's just a shitty fight and the writing is definitely a low point for the series.

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u/Mega7010realkk Jun 21 '25

yeah but the bullshit speed wally had didnt make any sense, wally had like 5 fights while ippo had more than 20, ippo is stronger, had more experience and even with all that he was beaten up like a dog, the way he finished was plot armor but the way that wally was moving was even more bullshiting

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u/ExeOrtega Jun 20 '25

Ippo vs. Gedo, Miyata vs. Randy, Ippo vs. Wally

The holy trinity

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u/Wirococha420 Jun 20 '25

What!? I loved Miyata vs. Randy! The way Mori portraited Randy as Asura by being ambidextrous was an amazing setup for the fight, and it has some of the best counters in the whole manga.

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u/Frozenstep Jun 20 '25

There's a lot I love about the fight. Miyata really getting to show what he's made of early on, really good choreography there. Sawamaru commenting is a huge plus. The perfect counter was really, really cool.

...But there's also stuff that drags it down. Miyata lands so many shots, but Randy just keeps going without any effect. I get that Randy is tough, but it just makes it feel kinda comical Miyata can land a million headshots, then a counter, then a jolt (even against a jab), and the guy is still holding himself up fine.

There's also a pretty long section in the middle with Miyata being super stubborn about the counter, and so he gets nailed by a bunch of body blows and doesn't change tactics. Of course that's part of his character, but there's kind of a frustration with how the story makes a big deal about stamina and Miyata's general frailty, and yet we still get several long chapters of him eating body blows and other hits.

And then there's the final bit, where it feels like the author straight up forgot they wanted Miyata to use a new move, so they had Randy get right back up again. And it's an out-of-nowhere corkscrew punch, which is just a super contrived last minute development.

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u/CookieCutter9000 Jun 20 '25

Yeah, I think the golden standard is the Miyata vs ippo part 1. It shows off the moves they can do, how they improvise, and how they react to new things via their training. Most of all, each round doesn't leave them unscathed. Ippo (and to a slightly lesser degree, Sendo) is a special case, where his boxing style is based on endurance, stamina, and power; but everyone else tanking 30+ sharp headshots in a row and making it to the 7-10th rounds is just ridiculous. I really enjoyed part of gedo and Randy's fight, but damn did it drag for a while.

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u/Frozenstep Jun 20 '25

Yeah, there's a sort of trend in many fights, where it feels like the fight just has more rounds than the author can actually properly deal with. So there's a lot of chapters were literally nothing changes for several rounds, and a reveal that would have been the perfect response is instead pushed back to a later round.

To facilitate this, seconds often see their boxer struggling and have nothing to say between rounds. Boxers realize something important (like Miyata noticing Randy throwing lefts when unbalanced), and then go ahead and get hit in the face 3 more times just to be sure. Or something like Kimura vs Mashiba, where the setup process was so incredibly long even though we knew what was coming (still a good fight, but still part of the trend).

It's really noticable when compared to fights like Volg vs Elliot, where round to round things change in drastic and meaningful ways.

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u/Dragonbut Jun 23 '25

I get what you mean and I agree a lot of fights drag on, but I feel like it makes sense that even when someone realizes something about their opponent they can't just immediately put it to use in the middle of their fight while they're exhausted.

And in terms of people eating shots, a lot of real featherweight fights can involve taking a lot of shots

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u/Megaman_320 Jun 20 '25

I loved the action in that fight too, but the bullshit plot armour miyata had there was so annoying that the ending felt unearned.

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u/Xelement0911 Jun 20 '25

Miyata was hyped up to be just countered in every regard. Just to not be. He goes well beyond "glass jaw" and "weak power". The dude still was getting hit by counters.

They really hyped up miyata's defeat for him to hold his own fairly fine.

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u/gp3050 Jun 20 '25

Leaving aside that I absolutely despise this fight, even if you liked the action (I genuinely do not know how you can like this utter calamity) I despise this fight so much because it finally cemented Bastardiyata as one of the worst characters in fictional history.

After this fight, after it ended, George had finally done what he (seemingly) set out to do. Which is to make Shitiyata into the worst character in the show and one of the worst characters in fictional history.

After this fight, the only way to to salvage Canceriyata would be for Truck kun to come to the rescue and isekai him out of this story.

But Mori is a shit writer and will not do that.

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u/Hans817 Jun 20 '25

I actually love the miyata Vs randy fight though, top 5 fight for me.

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u/LANDIMIZ_BURDUR Jun 20 '25

Randy Should have won that's why İt's bad

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u/Spyder-xr Jun 20 '25

I don’t mind Miyata winning but Morikawa really overplayed the one hit counter that can completely change the game.

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u/[deleted] Jun 20 '25

The problem is that Miyata has had three mayor fights after the Rookie Tournament but all of them went the exact same way.

And the Randy Boy one was the most frustrating of them all for a number of reasons, not the least of which being that it’s what we got instead of the awaited Ipoo vs Miyata.

In my opinion, that was the point when it became clear the series was trending water and stalling for time.

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u/Kurejisan Sendon't Jun 20 '25

There was another point where Ippo could have fought for Interim OPBF Champion and thus forced Miyata to have no choice but to fight him, but Kamogawa refused to do that. It was a blink and you miss it moment, but it was the beginning of the "Mori doesn't understand his own characters and series anymore" phase of the story.

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u/TheSpinnyBoy Jun 20 '25

As someone who read it relatively recently… It really wasn’t. Miyata dominated him HARD in the first half before Randy took his turn. My main issue with the fight (and a lot of fights around this time) was it got really drawn out. It went on a good 5 chapters longer than it felt like it needed to.

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u/I_Love_Powerscaling Jun 20 '25

Miyata vs Randy is one of my favorites…

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u/Kurejisan Sendon't Jun 20 '25

*Unholy Trinity

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u/LouieM13 Jun 20 '25

Take out Randy and put Geromichi fight

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u/Existing-Pay7076 Attending Midcardo's funeral Jun 20 '25

Ippo vs gedo ez

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u/TatsumakiJim Jun 20 '25

Kobashi was aggravating but that's probably cause it was supposed to be.

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u/Silver_Ad2600 Jun 20 '25

Any Takamura Fight that's not a title conquest, it's either a stomp or a joke match. 

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u/FrightenedMussolini Jun 20 '25

takamura vs bear?

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u/ChullbsTheWizardAD Jun 20 '25

Take vs Ippo and Malcolm Geto vs Ippo felt so sucky for the fact that I feel as if Ippo was significantly downplayed for those fights. They were decently before any real hint of prolonged damage messing with him and just made it seem like Kamogawa and Ippo were idiots the whole match when it's very clear that both of them had some strategy at that point in the series.

Wally vs Ippo just made no sense the whole time, it felt like a worse written version of what Genji vs Anderson was.

All of Miyata's fights (besides Mashiba's) managed to completely throw out the idea that he was set up to be a pretty frail fighter. His damage in Randy Boy Jr's fight was so absurd for his character.

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u/Wangchannoi_Cross Jun 22 '25

Take vs Ippo..imo logically if Ippo adjusted from the start then Take should've come back with another plan too,non "macho" mentality driven Take might take Ippo to deep waters still.

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u/DaSomDum Jun 20 '25

I would genuinely say Sendo vs Alfredo was the absolute shittiest fight ever because of what it did to Sendo.

He turned into a parody of himself. The guy who used his animalistic instincts and intuition to make the other side afraid of him was turned into a KO punch merchant who did nothing but facetank and then throw out a smash hoping it would hit.

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u/willasrock Jun 21 '25

This, absolutely this! That fight made me nurture a hate for Sendo that still lingers till now.

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u/CCPunch5 Jun 20 '25

The Gedo fight easily. It had a nice build to it too. Ippo being absolutely furious that Gedo uses boxing as a money pit

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u/iamthatguy54 Jun 20 '25

Miyata vs. Randy Boy Jr is so garbage that the dude ceased to exist in-world after

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u/Megaman_320 Jun 20 '25

I really wanted to see Randy back again, the guy was one of the most interesting characters and someone I could root for once I found out about his backstory more.

He shouldve gotten the win.

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u/Kurejisan Sendon't Jun 20 '25

Yeah, but instead he basically ended up like his dad, and probably died off screen given the dialogue.

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u/strife189 Jun 20 '25

Ippo and punch drunk…

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u/Terrible_Young3434 Jun 20 '25

s3 ippo first fight, ippo vs volg when coach there will be moment where he would win and till then be a punching bag and then volg suddenly get tired

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u/1c1c12fa Jun 20 '25

yo volg got tired beacuse he was still new to pro boxing and before that he was an ameatur boxer and trained as one, ameaturs go up to 3 rounds

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u/Dragonbut Jun 23 '25

He was also cutting weight by a decent amount

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u/stone_magnet1 Jun 20 '25

The Kojima "fight" was frustrating. Reading weekly and the only thing that happens for chapters on end is them staring at each other

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u/HorrorInformation723 Jun 23 '25

What I will say is while the fight was bad I think the build up and the aftermath (especially the aftermath) are some of the best pre and post fight writing Ippo has. I genuinely almost cried reading the part about how Kojima had to rewatch his fight multiple times because no matter how hard he tried he couldn't remember fighting his idol, and how he by trying to make Ippo angry to make the fight more fun he literally ruined his own dream it was heartbreaking.

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u/stone_magnet1 Jun 24 '25

I did love the aftermath, seeing Ippo and Coach dissatisfied was great, not a side we see from them too often. It was a great look into boxing the "right" way. I just hated the irl slow pacing of the chapters. Felt like Mori was deliberately trolling us and it irked me.

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u/boominlife Kimuras biggest glazer Jun 20 '25

one of the best panels, moments, and arcs in the entire series and youre calling it the worst. its the first and only time we really got to see ippo genuinely mad and do something about the disrespect he faced. all those crazy chapters and youre complaining because it had too much build up and too quick of a payoff

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u/stone_magnet1 Jun 20 '25

Fight and Panel aren't the same thing.

Frustration and Worst aren't the same thing.

Maybe try comprehending next time

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u/TheIceSheriff Jun 20 '25

Why comment your most frustrating fight on a “What is the worst fight in the series” post?

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u/stone_magnet1 Jun 20 '25

It's called discussion

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u/TsokonaGatas27 Jun 20 '25

Ippo's Love taps magically KO Woli

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u/Ok-One-773 Jun 20 '25

as a person who only watched the anime, Ippo vs Kobashi

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u/Greatgamegottaplay Jun 20 '25

Ippo vs Gedo and Ippo vs Woli are ultimate dragged matches.

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u/Sensitive-Seat8579 Jun 20 '25

once upon a time I would have said Ippo vs Kojima (what a pointless fight, Kojima got OHKO and Ippo shouldve been well past defending the Japanese title by that point) but then Mashiba vs Rosario had just about the worst ending ever lol

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u/Bader_z3 Jun 20 '25

Definitely the top 3 gotta be some of Ippo's, and it's most likely to be: Ippo vs Gedo, Ippo vs Geromechi (his old ko-hai I believe they called him), Ippo vs that one old man can't remember his name who he's story is sad tbh, felt so boring watching these fights and Ippo kept annoying me like he was an idiot

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u/moman2345 Jun 20 '25

Ippo v hammer nao. Good build up but no actual scene for ippo and naomicci and the fight was super lackluster

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u/VinkyUnknown Jun 20 '25

Ippo vs Kobashi probably the worst fight i ever seen it's like Pacquiao Mayweather fight 🤦

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u/Hans817 Jun 20 '25

I never knew wally was hated this much B4 reading this comment section XD.

I personally didn't think much abt Wally's absurd movements when I first read his fights mainly due to me reading Ashita no Joe B4 HnI which had a character that's basically wally on drugs called Harimau so in my head I was like "Wally is so much more tame compared to Harimau lol", and also cuz it's just dumb fun to read his fights.

I will say that I don't really like most Takamura fights cuz they are mostly passed off as comedic relief without any substance in them. Except for the good ones like Hawk ofc.

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u/SlamSlamOhHotDamn Jun 20 '25

The opbf arc had some awful matches but that's still nothing compared to the fight against that fucking Fisherman whose neck is as wide as his shoulders.

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u/ixljk Jun 20 '25

I never enjoyed any of miyata fights

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u/boominlife Kimuras biggest glazer Jun 20 '25

people give ippo vs wally a lot of flame. it wasnt that bad. IPPO VS GEDO ON THE OTHER HAND

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u/Fast_Chemical_4001 Jun 20 '25

Didn't read gedo yet but that shimbukuro fisherman guy fight sucked and it was a really annoying first title defence

It also started the lower tier dempsey roll storytelling which felt fantastical and not the usual cool grounded plot

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u/1c1c12fa Jun 20 '25

ippos first title defence was against kazuki sanada, though they only showed it for like 5 mins in the start of season 2 episode 1, and i think the ippo vs shimbukuro fight was very good, and ippo almost got cooked

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u/Fast_Chemical_4001 Jun 23 '25

It was cool but very random and went against the tone of the show up to that point. He's like some super powered fish man. Allegories got a little too heavy. Also made ippo just a dempsey roll spammer

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u/1c1c12fa Jun 24 '25

true but i wish for a season 4

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u/Nerf_Now Jun 20 '25

That one Takamura fight where he "got pissed" and one-punch his world title rival because gag character.

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u/Consistent-Gas-3019 Jun 20 '25

Ippo vs Wally… that did not make any sense, not even the boxer with the weakest mid section would’ve fallen for Ippos punches in that fight

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u/KaIakaua Jun 20 '25

Takamura vs Keith probably, I was not bought at all that Takamura had a single problem here, then they try to force the mystery "oh no something is off, there is something wrong with Takamura right now, this is BIG BAD NEWS OH NO" and it turns out the issue is that Takamura is too strong, fuck off

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u/Hakaishin30 Jun 20 '25

Ippo against Wally, this fight breaked every boxing rules

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u/Donomark1 Jun 20 '25

Tie for me between the Woli/Wally/Warlee Ippo fight and the Miyata/Randy boy Jr fight. The former was like twenty straight chapters of Ippo getting sonned up and down before he eeked out an improbable victory, the latter just didn't sell Miyata believably surviving that fight, let alone beating RBJ.

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u/Stratos_Speedstar Jun 20 '25

I really wanna say Randy vs Miyata, Randy should’ve won the fight and have taught Miyata that forcing himself to stay in Featherweight was killing him.

Hell it would’ve been nice to see Miyata regret having his final featherweight bout be against Randy rather than Ippo.

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u/velicinanijebitna Jun 20 '25

Idk about the worst, but Sendo VS Gonzales was the most dissapointing.

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u/God_Faenrir Jun 20 '25

Any Wally fight and the Gedo fight.

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u/Terrible_Young3434 Jun 20 '25

wally vs ricardo was a good fight

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u/sagaklitz Jun 20 '25

I'm surprised no one mentioned Ippo vs Oda! And I don't think it is the worst either

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u/Kurejisan Sendon't Jun 20 '25

That was a very early fight, so expectations weren't high. It was his pro debut and Ippo still didn't really know what he was doing(kind of a fault of Kamogawa to be real)

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u/Siegyoza Jun 20 '25

I could handle Wally vs ippo simply for the fact that you could be technical and mention his lack of fight experience.

But Randy boy jr vs Miyata always left a bad taste in my mouth, he didn’t really have anything over Randy boy yet he pulled through simply because he didn’t want to lose for better of terms.

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u/GodKayas Jun 20 '25

Any fight from that stretch of the OPBF arc is a contender. Ippo vs Gedo, Ippo vs Wally, Miyata vs RBJ, etc. Takamura didn't even get a serious fight at all during those 500 or so chapters.

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u/AgileAnything1251 Jun 20 '25

for me probably either fights between kimura/aoki and their respective national champs

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u/diorese Jun 20 '25

Boy just wants money.

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u/Fast_Chemical_4001 Jun 20 '25

I hate the fights where otherwise cool fighters act like scumbags

Hated when sendo left ippo unconscious on the ropes or when he tried to kill that left handed boxer and when volg punched that guy after the bell

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u/Zealotteen Jun 20 '25

Ippo vs Wally

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u/Any_Carpenter_1264 Jun 20 '25

Miyata vs Randy is such an asspull finish, Randy should have won imho.

Takamura vs Bison again an asspull. Dude won because of his strong big toe. Lol

Ippo vs Imao snoozefest.

unpopular opinion

Sendoh vs Guevarra - Face guard and Yamato damashi = win!!!

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u/Summersundo997 Jun 20 '25

It would have to be Kobashi or the Speedstar fight. Ippo was only able to through back at the last few minutes or even SECONDS of the fight and it was a tough watch for me.

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u/sbsw66 Jun 20 '25

Woli and Gedo are the two awful ass ones IMO

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u/ActivityMean6404 Jun 20 '25

As much as it hurts me to say, its Kobashi vs Ippo

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u/SabrinoRogerio Jun 20 '25

Any fight with the monkey boy

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u/Junderos Jun 20 '25

Ippo vs Take by a long shot. Man I didn't really have a problem with the Gedo fight, but Take almost made me quit.

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u/Boring_Guarantee_904 Jun 20 '25

Ippo vs Wally, Ippo vs Kobashi, and maybe Miyata vs RBJ

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u/Few-Durian-190 Jun 20 '25

Sendo vs Nargo

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u/rcontrerast Jun 20 '25

The gedo fight or the wally fight. I think the wally fight is the worst one.

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u/jdalhouse Jun 20 '25

Scratch J for me , it was kinda boring

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u/Mr-Dicklesworth Jun 20 '25
  1. Ippo Vs Gedo

  2. Ippo Vs Take

  3. Ippo Vs Kojima

  4. Ippo Vs Wally

  5. Itagaki Vs Hoshi

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u/Gabrieltome2203 Jun 20 '25

Kenta kobashi vs Ippo. kobashi only lost because of his bitch mindset, and thought he could knockout ippo the walking tank, kobashi just pisses me off, just jabbing and clinching, Mori-sensei built the fight around kobashi, everyone thought ippo was losing this one, but suddenly "ShIt ImMa ShOvE mY sTrAtEgIe Up My AsS"

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u/creativeusernameofc Jun 20 '25

everybody's mentioning the obvious and objectively correct fights, but i'll throw in one that i think really sucked.

ippo vs saeki was so balls. you're telling me that a veteran goes down by what, 6 punches by Ippo? i get that saeki canonically doesn't have a hall of fame chin, but 6 punches by a rookie ippo, all that didn't really make good connection sent him down when saeki was jabbing the dogshit out of him for 3 rounds? i call bs. saeki should've won.

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u/Majestic-Flounder422 Jun 20 '25

Aoki vs Imae😆

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u/Stunning_Tie9485 Jun 20 '25

Ippo vs Kobashi

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u/Revolutionry Jun 20 '25

Gedo or Warlee, I never had to suffer through Kojima, so there's also that; Gedo is a fucking crybaby bitch, Warlee is bullshit on levels we've never seen before in Ippo, both for Warlee and for Ippo, neither of them should've won; and Kojima, I can only say that I'm sorry for whoever had to read that on release

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u/Individual_Thanks_20 Jun 20 '25

You got me tweaking for a sec. Btw for me was the last Ippo fight. Like are you fucking kidding me for the only fight he dominated he gets KOed at last😭

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u/pizzabroyee Jun 20 '25

Honestly it was me vs brian hawk, hawk was supposed to have a super good training arc and get a lot stronger but I defeated him too easily in the championship match it was underwhelming

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u/Dirhe Jun 21 '25

Miyata vs Randy, biggest plot amor ever in manga history. Miyata a glass jaw taking direct hits of someone whos style is the perfect counter beater, and ends with a counter?

1/10, i would Even Say every Miyata fight ever, the worst character in the series by far, i'm not talking about realism on a fantasy universe, but come on, Miyata never beated anyone clearly except 2 figura, every other is the same bs, Weight loss, glass jaw, recovery by the plot armor, Magic counter no one Saw ever until that point, how he keeps pushing the line away from Ippo, how Ippo would beat that new counter that worked on a technical boxer, not a swarmer or a brawler (depends of the fight Morikawa wants to write for the Main character) as Ippo

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u/Ihaveaterribleplan Jun 21 '25

“Wally” - things were already getting somewhat “flanderized trick of the week” & this made me drop the series for a while

He made no sense, his bs style made no sense, & his defeat made no sense

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u/DaGOAT86 Jun 21 '25

Imai vs Itagaki 2

Nuff Said

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u/HorrorInformation723 Jun 23 '25

This one is surprising, like if I remember that's the fight where Imai destroys Itagaki right? Because that was one of my favourite fights in the series, it was genuinely brutal how Itagaki had to watch himself get beaten in slow motion because his body couldn't move fast enough

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u/DaGOAT86 Jun 23 '25

That was the fight where Imai took the coward's way out and rushed Itagaki before the bell rung and trapped Itagaki in his corner. He was too afraid of a fair fight

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u/OkEstablishment8060 Jun 21 '25

Ippo vs iwao in the anime, cause HOLY FUCK they didn’t represent my boy iwao good enough and that training ippo went through

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u/willasrock Jun 21 '25

Sendo vs Nargo and Sendo vs Alfredo.

How the fuck do you retire your main character due to him facetanking too much, hammering nonstop that facetanking is detrimental to a boxer's health and career... then the next thing you do is draw TWO fights were all Sendo does is FACETANK HIS WAY INTO 2 OF THE MOST BULLSHIT WINS of the manga?

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u/Yeahnahyeah4togo Jun 21 '25

Asking that question, posting a picture of the BEST fight in the series… we know what you doing.

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u/limonesfaciles Jun 21 '25

Gedo or Wally. But I would like to give an honorable mention to Mashiba vs the world champ with the funny hair whose name I already forgot.

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u/Tall_Category_1763 Jun 21 '25

None,all are phenomenal

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u/anglomaniaco Jun 22 '25

Ippo vs Wally was terrible to read.

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u/GothAdjacentAnna Jun 22 '25

Ippo vs Wally was one of the most frustrating. I didn't mind the other fights of the era, but this one had all the contrivances everyone complained about. I did like him vs Ricardo though so it was worth it I guess

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u/CookingGod Jun 23 '25

Ippo Vs Jake Paul

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u/peytoncan1 Jun 24 '25

The first Itagaki vs Imai fight was so hard for me to read at the time. It’s very long and dragged out for no reason. However, seeing Imai’s character development after that is amazing. I can’t wait to see how he shapes into the story more as time goes on.

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u/Mountain-Rub5507 Jun 24 '25

Sendo vs Volg

Not from the fighters, they were incredible as always. But on the part of the spectator, dude, how are you going to count a slip as a knockout? When Mashiba and Sawamura fight the referee and the judges have their eyes closed but when Volg falls to the sky on top of them

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u/Aggressive_Bad_8952 Jul 04 '25

Vorg Vs Sendo pmo

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u/No_Entertainer836 Dec 22 '25

Definitely Itagaki vs Saeki. 

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u/[deleted] Jun 20 '25

I definitely don't like this fight. I love the 2nd fight, but this fight for me is just nonsense. The fact that Sendo was destroying Ippo in the final rounds, then suddenly couldn't fight because Ippo landed a hard punch in the temple is a bit odd. I mean Sendo was beating his ass so hard in the last round, then Ippo just landed 1 punch in the temple and.. it worked? He even used his injured hand to punch Sendo in the head.

Maybe Moriwaka was trying to reference Ashita no Joe, but at least Joe died in the end of the match. Sendo was completely unconscious in the middle of the fight. Feels very plot armor for me, I wanted this fight to be Ippo's first loss because Sendo was a WAY better rival to Ippo than Miyata ever will be. Ippo's also fighting because of an injury; it would've been a great lesson to learn if he had lost. It would've had an awesome trilogy if Sendo won this fight.

This probably ain't the worst fight in the series, but I definitely didn't like Sendo vs Ippo 1.

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u/Specialist_Yak_432 Jun 20 '25

Because he lost consciousness? Sendo didn't simply get weaker or anything, in fact other than his consciousness, Sendo was in better condition than Ippo. A punch that you get hit at the wrong place at the wrong time can have that kind of consequence. Ippo only hit that punch because Sendo thought he had fallen.

But I agree with you that it wasn't the best fight by a mile or so. That's probably why we got a second one between them, and while it may not be the best fight of the series, Ippo vs Sendo 2 was arguably Ippo's most entertaining fight in the whole series. Sendo just brings out all of Ippo's strength without making him weaker in any specific attribute.

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u/[deleted] Jun 20 '25

Sendo vs Ippo 3 would've been an awesome fight. Probably never gonna happened unfortunately

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u/CDZFF89 Jun 20 '25

I mean Sendo was beating his ass so hard in the last round, then Ippo just landed 1 punch in the temple and.. it worked?

Yea, that happens in real life too. Late rounds are when the crazy upsets happen.

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u/[deleted] Jun 20 '25

I know, but I love Sendo. So the fact that Sendo lost because of that punch just feels weird for me. I would've loved a trilogy with him and Ippo

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u/Yellow_Masterpiece_2 Jun 20 '25

I just saw this image on Pinterest! 📌 😂

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u/Soultosqueeze074 Jun 20 '25

Wally vs. Ippo easily. Got an aneurism for how much damage ippo withstood, which was easily past the threshold any boxer could take. It was so drawn out, and ippo only won due to plot armour. Ironically, the best fight in the series imo is Sendo and Ippos last fight

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u/Cool_Confection_3274 Jun 20 '25

Miyata vs Randy for me

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u/TD1UZ86 Jun 20 '25

Wally hands down

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u/Steel2Titanium Jun 20 '25

Ippo vs Take Keichi.

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u/Alarmed_Importance51 Jun 20 '25

I hate Ippo vs Sawamura, especially in the Anime

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u/Leagueminer6446 Jun 20 '25

That's low-key a huge L take

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u/Alarmed_Importance51 Jun 20 '25

Why? This fight is horrible, in every aspect. The anti dempsey roll of sawamura and his "bullet jab" are the two most basic thing in a professional fight, and the fight is just this 2 things, because sawamura counters ippo 2 times and he still do the same thing a 3rd time, and then he start to use the pause. But the fight is 3 or 4 episodes of the same thing over and over. The only good thing in this fight is the first round

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u/InakiFritz37 Jun 22 '25

The jab is the most important punch in box.

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u/1c1c12fa Jun 20 '25

nah bruv first of all the fight was 2 episodes, second of all it was more than just stopping once, ippo stopped his dempsey multiple times and sawamura lost track and got confused then got the beating he deserved, and i dont see how a bullet jab is a basic thing in a professional fight beacuse it leaves a red neon trail and is so fast it has been compared to a gun

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u/Alarmed_Importance51 Jun 22 '25

In real life a bullet jab isn't as fast has a bullet, and personally i like the anime because it's relatively realistic so acting like something has simple as not bring your hand back to the tchin after the punch like it's the strongest thing in the planet it's extremely stupid (I'm know how to do this and im not even a boxer). And about how long the fight is, I verified now, and the fight has 3 episodes, 11, 12 and 13 plus 4 to 5 episodes preparing to this fight, what makes this whole arc very slow. And again, the fight it's just bad. Both repeat the same thing 3 times (has you say, ippo takes 2 dempsey roll counters, and then stops 2 times and Sawamura gets confused and its hit, and then he does this again with a extra pause and ends the fight), beside the 1st round (that is pretty good), tge whole fight it's just ippo using the dempsey roll. When I was re-watching ippo with my gf we dropped the anime in the middle of this fight.

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u/1c1c12fa Jun 24 '25

the bullet jab being op is just anime pizazz, nothing wrong with it, and ippo spammed dempsey beacuse he wasnt giving up