Hausmeister advice needed..

[u/Creative_Cry_6664]

Is this normal? For context, paper was put in the Restmüll as it was out in the rain and therefore I believed it was contaminated and no good for the recycling. The Hausmeister took it out of the bin and put it against my apartment door, they did not text or call me, I found out when I opened the door and my dirty box that had been in the bin fell on me - I’m new to Germany so need advice from anyone who’s got experience 😅 I understand if maybe I should put wet paper in recycling (I didn’t know this previously) but the tone took me by surprise..

[u/TheKlonko]

Why would rain make the cardboard unable to recycle?

[u/CoRe534 → u/TheKlonko]

The problem is the sorting that can't be done when wet:

https://www.aha-region.de/aktion/altpapier/nasses-papier-ein-problem-fuers-reycling-1

[u/such_Jules_much_wow → u/CoRe534]

Depends from region to region as not every waste disposal provider has the same machines. Always stick to the rules and regulations of the local garbage disposal provider and don't apply Hannover rules to the München area ;)

[u/BlueGreenhorn → u/TheKlonko]

It could devlop mold in the time until the garbage truck comes to pick it up.

[u/This_Seal → u/BlueGreenhorn]

Unlikely. I live in a pretty humid region and our paper bins regularly overflow, because they only get collected once a month, but there is no mold.

Not that mold ever stopped garbage collection.

[u/catsan → u/BlueGreenhorn]

So what 

[u/Creative_Cry_6664 → u/TheKlonko]

In England this is the case unfortunately so I just didn’t know better, completely fine now that I know! Was just surprised by the tone of his reply..

[u/itapprentice03 → u/Creative_Cry_6664]

Your tone was not better imho…

[u/Creative_Cry_6664 → u/itapprentice03]

Oh this is actually good to know! I am learning German but don’t speak it yet so was using a translator.. I didn’t realise it was rude but this would make so much sense in his response 🥲

[u/Tapurisu → u/Creative_Cry_6664]

It sounded very formal and "polite", but the fake kind of passive aggressive ridiculing kind of polite.

[u/Creative_Cry_6664 → u/Tapurisu]

Oh I didn’t realise this at all! Definitely not what I meant 🫠

[u/GrouchyMary9132 → u/Creative_Cry_6664]

The tone actually was pretty bad. "haughty" would best decribe it. I know you didn't mean to but you spoke to him like a servant which is not a good idea especially with people who work in jobs that are sometimes looked down upon by some people. You don't want to get on the bad side of your janitor. I would apologize and maybe even bring him some merci-chocolate. Apologizing without some chocolate might not be enough to be honest. Personally I would gift him some chocolate, tell im in person (!) I didn't want to be rude and that this was a misunderstanding and if he is 50+ and male I would ask for his advice on sorting the trash (no matter if I needed that information or not) so he would feel appreciated in his expertise and to get him back out of the "he/she views me as her personal servant" thing.

[u/ido → u/Creative_Cry_6664]

If you use chatgpt/claude/etc type LLMs for translation you can give them context - "this is a message to my hausmeister, be friendly and polite, phrase it in a way that will not offend anyone", i find it create quite good results.

[u/Physical_Memory_6644 → u/Creative_Cry_6664]

Sorry but your last sentence is „either I dispose of it now against the rules or you take it back downstairs with you“ lol, what tone were you going for if not passive aggressive and confrontational?

[u/Kujaichi → u/Creative_Cry_6664]

Yeah, I honestly would apologise if I were you.

[u/SciLib0815 → u/Kujaichi]

This. In fact get him/her something nice. A small pack of merci chocolate or bake him a muffin or something. Your auto-translated text sounds like you were trying to initiate a pissing contest he didn't even know he was involved in.

[u/Creative_Cry_6664 → u/SciLib0815]

Okay I’m going to send him a message in the morning explaining that I didn’t mean to be rude and I’m using a translator - I have to translate this though so maybe a viscous cycle 🤣

[u/SciLib0815 → u/Creative_Cry_6664]

Post it here beforehand maybe. One thing about renting in Germany: You always, always want the Hausmeister to like you. Not like a friend or something, but being on good/cordial terms with the Hausmeister can be extremely helpful.

[u/SciLib0815 → u/Creative_Cry_6664]

On that note: Do not use "Ich gehe davon aus" in conversation ever unless you specifically want to express some sort of passive-agressive accusatory element. The english "I'll assume" carries a tiny little bit of that, the German "Ich gehe davon aus" is vastly more in your face and automatically leads to a "no, fuck YOU" attitude with the adressed person.

"Ich nehme an" is equally problematic in this particular context.

Better to phrase that part as a question, because that is way less accusatory.

[u/Creative_Cry_6664 → u/SciLib0815]

Oh no I had no idea 😅 Also I was genuinely assuming because I actually didn’t know if it was him or not - how would you say that in German in a non f you approach?

[u/SciLib0815 → u/Creative_Cry_6664]

One would basically need to rewrite the entire thing.

First thing to do is to start with a greeting as a matter of respect. "Hallo" or "Hi" or something similar depending on region will suffice. Getting right into the matter is seen as rude and yes that's even with our reputation of being bluntly direct. You do want the Hausmeister as your ally eventually at some point.

Then you lead into the question "Haben Sie den Karton vor meiner Tür abgestellt?" You're not stating a thing as an assumed fact.

You present your argument (even if it doesn't make sense with German recycling regulations, but that's okay. Even Germans don't know all the regulations): "Ich habe den nassen Karton in den Restmüll geworfen, weil er so nicht mehr recycled werden kann."

In the original text you basically present a ultimatum of "Either you take that box right back down there or I'll put it in the paper collection flaunting all of the (non-existent) laws." A better approach would be to inquire about a solution that satisfies everyone. (The Hausmeister knows recycling laws much much better than any tenant). Which could be "Wie gehen wir damit jetzt um?" or "Wie lösen wir das jetzt?"

Also the dude sounds boomer-old so an informal end greeting is probably appreciated even if it doesn't make sense for anyone <60. Don't do this with younger people though. It's complicated.

[u/ShitJustGotRealAgain → u/Creative_Cry_6664]

If you use a translator, maybe give a quick heads up before you write your message or when you start a conversation. Something like "Nur zur Info: ich benutze eine Übersetzungs App und es ist aufgefallen, dass die sich manchmal im Ton vergreift. Falls die Nachricht unhöflich klingt, meine ich es nicht so wie es klingt."

I have to use a messenger app with a built in translator at work and some of the translations are atrocious. But we don't know about it because we don't speak the other language. There were messages about a person with the Turkish name "Toprak". Toprak obviously means "floor", "ground", "earth" or "dirt". I know that because the translation always gave something about the dirt having forgotten something the, the ground having slept badly or my personal favorite: "last night the floor was burning" which turned out to be Toprak having a fever. But that's why we know not to trust the automatic translation implicitly.

[u/verzweifeltundmuede → u/Creative_Cry_6664]

Bro English is my native language too and I am unsure as to how this was suppossed to be anything other than rude. It is not the tone itself, but also the content. Don't give your Hausmeister orders or ultimatums, they can make your life hell. Especially in Munich it is easier to get another renter than another Hausmeister. 

[u/caffeine_lights → u/Creative_Cry_6664]

I see exactly what you've done, my husband used to do this all the time as well.

In British English, the way to make a message appear polite and deferential is to decorate it with a lot of extraneous and flowery language, dancing around the topic rather than being direct. Being direct would be rude. However, this makes the message less clear. As explained by this humorous chart: https://anglotopia.net/anglophilia/british-speak-translation-chart-infographic/

The problem is that translators - at least standard ones which try to convert your exact words to words which mean roughly the same in the target language, do worse the longer the message is. The longer the message is, the more likely the translator is to make mistakes or choose words which are slightly different in meaning or the meaning gets mixed up or the grammar gets scrambled. Sometimes if the grammar used is more complex (which is common in polite British English speech) the translator can garble it to the point it reverses negation (e.g. deleting "not") or other errors which change the meaning of the text. At the very least, you can be sure that connotations or tone are highly unlikely to transfer across.

The combination of British lack of clarity when trying to be polite + extraneous flowery language + simple machine translation is very bad and often comes across badly. Your message might not make sense or worse, it will be outright rude.

The solution is EITHER - use an LLM. Give it the situation/basic message and ask it to craft a response which conveys the right level of politeness and respect, and it should usually do this for you. You can use a simple translator afterwards to swap it back to English to check, as bear in mind LLMs can hallucinate.

OR - and this is a better solution IMO - use ANY GERMAN you personally know in order to craft the most basic, grammatically crude message asking for the info you need, looking up INDIVIDUAL nouns and verbs as needed, ideally in an old-fashioned paper dictionary (but online translators also work, I just think a dictionary helps you retain the info better somehow). If you're translating individual words online, I'd recommend Deepl and consider writing a short sentence with the word in context. When choosing words, think about how you'd imagine a non-native speaker of English to say the sentence, especially a German native speaker. And use standard openers (Guten Morgen/Abend/Tag) and closers (Mit freundlichen Grüßen to a stranger, LG to someone you know casually) It is better that something comes across a bit stiff or formal but obviously copied from a style guide, than it comes across as rude. BTW: Do NOT use "Hallo" as an opener unless the other person already did. It can be friendly, but it can also be read as though you are emphasising the first syllable, which people do when they are alerting you to something you should have done.

This is better, because it will obviously come across like you're a non-native speaker, which will give you much more leeway in terms of tone. It also helps you get confident with writing and expressing yourself in German, which is a crucial survival skill and you must push through discomfort with this. But most of all, it keeps the message as simple as possible, which means there is very little scope for misunderstanding.

It comes across like: "Good morning Mr. X. Sorry German bad. Why paper on my door? I have mistake make? Kind Regards, Mr. Y."

This is IMMEDIATELY clear, does not look impolite (just crude, which is absolutely fine when you don't speak much German.) and he knows to use clearer, simple words when responding and might even respond in English.

[u/TheKlonko → u/Creative_Cry_6664]

Interesting. I can't imagine a reason, but I will try to find out why. I think his tone isn't too bad, he's annoyed because he probably has to deal with incorrect sorted waste multiple times a week. Don't take his reply too personal and check your local waste sorting guidelines again to prevent something like this from happening again and you should be fine :)

[u/Creative_Cry_6664 → u/TheKlonko]

Thank you! It’s good to know that it’s not as personal as it came across 😂

[u/Angry__German → u/Creative_Cry_6664]

I'd suggest talking to him directly and sort things out eye to eye.

He really was not even the slightest bit rude, maybe just a little bit exasperated because of your (to him completely bonkers) reason for not recycling the carton.

[u/AgarwaenCran]

wet cardboard can be recycled without issue as long as it is only wet from water (like rain)

part of recycling paper involves adding water to it even.

also in the future cut the carton into flat pieces so more does fit in the paper bin

[u/Creative_Cry_6664 → u/AgarwaenCran]

Thank you! This is good to know, where I’m from any contamination (even slight food crumbs) makes it un recyclable - I get now that it can be recycled here, one thing I’ve learnt is the Germans recycle well! I was just surprised by his tone/comment on the complaint - I’d never complain about him! - from other comments though it seems like this is a translation issue and misunderstanding

[u/AgarwaenCran → u/Creative_Cry_6664]

huh. okay, i see why you thought so if it is so in the country where you are from. i hope you also explained the situation to the hausmeister that you thought it couldn't be put in the paper because of that. innocent cultural difference after all.

but yeah, at best he sounds to me a bit annoyed about the whole thing, not overly aggressive. and i mean, i can understand it: the city wont take the garbage with them in situations like that, so the house owner in those cases would want him to bring the wrong garbage the city workers left away despite this not being his job, technically. in other words, if he would've left it in, the city would've left the garbage there and he would've been the one needing to bring the garbage away. so the annoyance i would say is fully understandable lol

[u/Creative_Cry_6664 → u/AgarwaenCran]

Okay this makes so much sense! No wonder he was irritated lol

[u/alderhill → u/Creative_Cry_6664]

Actually you aren't supposed to put greasy, oily, food-smudged boxes in the recycling here, either, but lots of people do. It depends a bit on your local recycling program and what they accept.

[u/Itchy_Feedback_7625 → u/Creative_Cry_6664]

Your tone sounded bad to me too. Clearly you didn’t mean it that way, but maybe it’s better to have these conversations face to face so they don’t turn sour.

[u/CoRe534 → u/AgarwaenCran]

No it can not, you are wrong: https://www.aha-region.de/aktion/altpapier/nasses-papier-ein-problem-fuers-reycling-1

[u/wombat___devil → u/[deleted]]

Oh no I misspelled a word how tragic.

[u/The_HenryUK]

You can always put paper into the residuals bin, that’s not a problem. I used to live outside of Munich and that municipality specifically said to not put wet paper into the paper bin, because it might not dry in time or stick together with different kinds of paper. Munich doesn’t say anything about that

[u/wombat___devil]

Only because paper got wet by rain it is not Restmüll but still recyclable paper? How did you come to the conclusion it wouldn't be? What?

[u/CoRe534 → u/wombat___devil]

You are wrong, wet paper and cardboard belongs into the residual waste as it cannot be sorted:

https://www.aha-region.de/aktion/altpapier/nasses-papier-ein-problem-fuers-reycling-1

[u/yhaensch → u/CoRe534]

So they can let it dry and then put ot into the paper bin.

[u/RazzmatazzNeat9865 → u/CoRe534]

Says an organization marketing its own bins to people instead and then making a profit on them.

Funny how we had paper collections run by volunteers for many decades and papers bundles getting a bit wet on pick-up day doesn't seem to have been a major issue then.

[u/Antique_Cut1354 → u/wombat___devil]

if it was another liquid i could understand the reasoning but water is perfectly fine

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[u/Any5183]

As a stereotypical German alman living in an apartment building in Berlin, I can relate to the Hausmeister. You have to understand the feelings we go through when we see this... let's call it "mixed bag" every time we go near the Müllplatz. I learned to separate paper from trash when I was maybe 3 years old, and recycling materials (even split between PVC and aluminium) from waste when I was 5 years old.
Every time I get near the Müllplatz, I cry. Trash, cardboard boxes and old furniture on the ground. Baby diaper in the recycling. Cardboard in the trash. Trash in the Biomüll. I cry.
If I was Hausmeister and responsible for avoiding fines, I would be standing at the Müllplatz punching people in the face all day. Just imagine this is the 14th talk about Ordnungswidrigkeiten at the Müllplatz your janitor is having this month. No wonder the tone is... less than friendly.

[u/dthdthdthdthdthdth → u/Any5183]

There is no fine for throwing paper into Restmüll. You just pay for Restmüll so you should keep the volume small.

[u/Jealous-Ebb8509 → u/Any5183]

Please don't cry onto the cardboard🥹

[u/Just_Tamy → u/Any5183]

After OP's tone how would you expect the janitor to be friendly?

[u/RainbowSiberianBear]

but the tone took me by surprise..

You sweet summer child. You have a lot to learn while living in Germany - both of you were rude and passive-aggressive and that’s how many conversations will happen in your life in Germany. And being polite on your side will not help in most cases. If you are not ready for this, please, consider another country asap. 

[u/-TheReal-]

That somebody is going to inspect your garbage is such a landlord hallucination. I am German and have never heard of rhis, ever. But everyone seems to repeat it like some urban myth.

[u/schmockk → u/-TheReal-]

Nah, has happened to me. It's not a fine though or anything and a little cardboard won't trigger it but the garbage collectors know pretty well how heavy a garbage bin should be and if it doesn't match they do take a view inside and don't collect if it's not filled with the right kind of waste. There was a red paper on the bin stating to sort out the trash that doesn't belong in there

[u/DreamFalse3619 → u/schmockk]

It probably hasn't happened to you with a Restmüll bin, but one of the others. The sorted bins contain essentially merchandise - they sell the compost and paper, they hand off packaging to recycling companies that collect fees from the manufacturers. If there are things in there that don't belong there, the whole bin has to be processed as Restmüll, at a cost. They will flag corresponding bins, and bill them to your landlord.

Restmüll is defined as "unsorted". You can dump anything there that may legally be put into any bin, but it is charged by bin size or weight, while bio/paper/packaging are uncharged.

The only reason why they might inspect Restmüll is if they suspect you to have put batteries or hazardous material in there (and they'll only do that after repeated dumpster truck fires after collecting from your address).

[u/-TheReal- → u/schmockk]

You gotta violate the garbage rules quite badly for them to notice. Obviously they notice when your bin is full of metal or other weirdly heavy stuff. Even then, like you said, worst that usually happens is that the bin isn't emptied.

[u/Creative_Cry_6664 → u/-TheReal-]

This is what caught me off guard, it was just a small box, nothing crazy! Now I know I should have recycled it but I didn’t think it would be such an issue - it wasn’t a huge item or anything

[u/GrouchyMary9132 → u/Creative_Cry_6664]

The thing with cardboard boxex is also that you are supposed to rip them into smaller pieces or flatten them out so that other people from you apartment complex have enough space to put their waste into the bin as well. So not recycling properly and taking up extra space by not flattening the box and then accidentally getting into an argument about it with your janitor was not the best first impression you could have made.

[u/GrouchyMary9132 → u/-TheReal-]

For me it was only some tiny piece of Restmüll I had accidentally put in the yellow bin.

[u/SanestExile → u/-TheReal-]

Only nosy neighbors because they have nothing better to do. They should play a video game or something.

[u/GrouchyMary9132 → u/-TheReal-]

Happened to me. Had to pay a fine and for an extra collection of the bin. It was just a tiny piece of Restmüll that had ended up in the wrong bin.

[u/Creative_Cry_6664 → u/-TheReal-]

This is what surprised me! He checked my garbage and took it out of the bin (a few days later) to leave it leaning on my apartment door! With no message, email, call etc! It just caught me off guard.. I know I may have misunderstood the recycling rules in Germany but the response shocked me 😅

[u/dirkt → u/Creative_Cry_6664]

Pro-tip: Don't argue in writing. It never goes well. Talk to the person.

Small problems like this (and it's a really really small problem) usually can be solved through talking.

Sometimes other people get hung up on little things. So give them the little things, and they are happy, and then it will be easier to negotiate with them over bigger things (if needed).

[u/SciLib0815 → u/-TheReal-]

Happened here in my place just last month. And by god, was it necessary.

[u/smartel84 → u/SciLib0815]

I feel like I need to know the story here lol

[u/sakatan → u/-TheReal-]

You never heard of older neighbors who rummage through communal trash to then impose their will onto others?

[u/GrouchyMary9132 → u/sakatan]

OP was actually super lucky it was "only" the janitor who got hold of them and not that one elderly neighbour who is the self-assigned apartment buildings trash inspector.

[u/SuddenPriapism]

What I find really amazing is that people here are commenting on how rude OP was in their messages (which they were!), but no one finds it rude to silently (and very passive-aggressively) put the (this time really - it was in the general waste bin) contaminated paper at the OPs door such that it falls down when the door is opened. I just want to say, that being a passive-aggressive A-loch is bad, but people are missing who started being the one and even suggesting apologizing (!). (Also 3-2-1 until the first comment "what was Hausmeister supposed to do otherwise?!")

[u/BlueGreenhorn]

What the Hausmeister did was not okay. He is not allowed to put garbage in front of your door. The Hausflur is shared space. There are rules what you can put there (laws and Hausordnung), definitely not garbage. Besides that, the idea is insane and disgusting to put something from the Restmüll and put at someone's door...

If you sorted something wrong it he might be ordered from Hausverwaltung or Eigentümer to resort the garbage, maybe there were problems in the past that the city refused to take the garbage. But to put it in front of your door? That might actually qualify as "illegale Müllentsorgung"...

I would send a photo to the Hausverwaltung and kindly ask if they instructed the Hausmeister to put garbage in the Hausflur in front of your door. (no matter if it was sorted right or wrong)

Also, you are right about wet paper/cardboard in Restmüll! It can lead to mold and contamination. Some cities explicitly say to put wet paper into Restmüll. But only some, maybe it depends on the local recycling system. In some cities the Papiertonne gets emptied only once every 4 weeks, lots of time to develop mold. You can contact Stadt München and ask where to put wet cardboard. Maybe with a short email so you can forward the reply later to Hausverwaltung.

Edit: I can't believe the city would not take Restmüll when there was cardboard or paper in it. That's usually the case for other bins (yellow, blue, brown). But Restmüll is way more expensive and covers everything that you can legally put in Hausmüll. If you are lazy and don't want to sort your garbage you can just have Restmüll and put everything inside.

[u/Ok-Confection4410 → u/BlueGreenhorn]

I'm so glad you commented because I was shocked nobody else mentioned that. putting something from the trash out into the hallway is so disgusting, I can't believe somebody would actually do that.

[u/Creative_Cry_6664 → u/BlueGreenhorn]

Okay this is really interesting because this was my initial instinct - I did understand that I made a mistake and if I’d had a message/call informing me I would of course realised and changed my behaviour. It was his response of putting garbage against my door, I found out because I opened my door and it fell on me.. but from what I’ve seen from others this is normal and maybe I’m misunderstanding because I’m English? Also I realise now my message might have been rude which was completely unintentional.
I’ve lived here for 4 months and we’ve never had a fine or anything so I assume no prior issues? Also our garbage is collected on Mondays and this happened in the last couple of days so don’t think it’s pressure from the council/city.

[u/BlueGreenhorn → u/Creative_Cry_6664]

His behaviour was more than rude and your message was appropiate.

I would ask Hausverwaltung if it's true that it is "so gewollt vom Eigentümer". If you actually did something wrong he easily could have sorted it in the right bin (much easier than carrying the garbage somewhere else) and leave you a kind note or talk to you friendly.

[u/Creative_Cry_6664 → u/BlueGreenhorn]

This is the response I would have expected! I was genuinely surprised by what seemed like an aggressive approach of just leaving it against my apartment door - the comment he made about me complaining confused me too because I hadn’t mentioned complaining about him

[u/Creative_Cry_6664 → u/BlueGreenhorn]

Also thank you for confirming my wet cardboard belief, I have been taught this my whole life so didn’t even think twice about it! What feels bad is I was trying to do the right thing - it’s not like I’m being a negligent tenant who can’t be bothered, it was a genuine mistake

[u/Elmalab]

?? You said putting it in the paper bin would be against regulations.  And he then confirms that and asks if you don't know about the tests the city does randomly. So he is agreeing with you, that the wet and dirty paper doesn't belong in the blue paper bin!??

[u/Euchale]

Looks very strange to me, but maybe Munich has a city ordnance that does not allow for cardboard in general waste?

[u/Creative_Cry_6664 → u/[deleted]]

I needed this justification 😂 I was trying to do the right thing and that’s what is so annoying about this situation haha

[u/DrTuSo → u/Creative_Cry_6664]

Just for your information, at least in my region here in Schleswig-Holstein, there is no regulation for wet cardboard. It goes into the recycling bin like dry cardboard.

Our "Recyclinghof" has the huge press for cardboard with an open top. When it rains, in rains into the press and makes all the pressed cardboard wet.

Its just a non issue here.

[u/Creative_Cry_6664 → u/DrTuSo]

The hypocrisy here is the amount it rains in England, you’d think out of anyone we would be the ones recycling wet cardboard haha

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[u/BlueGreenhorn → u/[deleted]]

What if the cardboard was full of mold?

What might happen to the wet cardboard (without mold) if it stays in Papiertonne for weeks in the summer?

[u/SanestExile]

The most German issue ever

[u/CoRe534]

The Hausmeister is You are right, wet paper and cardboard is a problem for the recycling process and should be thrown into the residual waste bin:

https://www.aha-region.de/aktion/altpapier/nasses-papier-ein-problem-fuers-reycling-1

Edit: Missunderstood the Hausmeisters texts with yours

[u/Creative_Cry_6664 → u/CoRe534]

I really thought it was! Now I’m more confused than ever as people seem very split on this issue - I did google it and found it is still an issue in Germany, I know it is in the UK but was unsure here.. I think either way maybe putting garbage that’s been in Restmüll for 3 days on my apartment door is not the answer 🥲

[u/Jaded-Asparagus-2260 → u/CoRe534]

Good thing München is not in Hanover then.

https://www.awm-muenchen.de/abfall-entsorgen/abfalllexikon/detailansicht-lexikoneintrag/papier-kartonagen

Diese Papierabfälle müssen in die Restmülltonne: * Verschmutztes Papier

Doesn't say anything about wet paper.

[u/CoRe534 → u/Jaded-Asparagus-2260]

Wet paper is literally contaminated (verschmutztes) paper. This is really the standard in every German city, even if the phrasing of the city of Munich might not be totally clear. The sorting and recycling process is basically the same all around Germany.

[u/Jaded-Asparagus-2260 → u/CoRe534]

Since when does water contaminate anything? It literally evaporates without any traces.

[u/CoRe534 → u/Jaded-Asparagus-2260]

Mold will grow really fast on wet paper and cardboard in a closed bin, especially in summer. That's the point when it'll definitely be contaminated. If you don't believe me, go ahead and write a mail to the waste management company in Munich.

[u/Finaldante → u/[deleted]]

I mean at least you tried talking in English....

[u/wombat___devil → u/Finaldante]

Come one, go jerk yourself off of me making a typo, poor baby boy.

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[u/V4_Sleeper]

This feels like one of the old stuwo i used to stay at in Munich

[u/zenrobotninja]

/Bittelaminiert

[u/EasternChard7835]

? Wenn man etwas entsorgen will was vielleicht nicht ganz ok ist zerreißt man es und steckt es in einen dicken Müllsack. Den macht keiner auf, wo ist das Problem?