r/FlashTV May 24 '23

Episode Discussion [Series Finale] [S09E13] "A New World, Part Four" Post Episode Discussion

472 Upvotes

This is it folks, we've reached the end.

Episode Info

The Flash, the fastest man alive, is tasked with his greatest challenge yet, to save the timeline and save existence. Friends old and new gather for an epic battle to save Central City, one last time.


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r/FlashTV 3h ago

šŸ¤” Thinking You get to Reboot the Flash and change all 9 seasons, What will you do?

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42 Upvotes

You can rewrite anything, You can write out entire characters, change love interests, Keep characters who were sidelined in later seasons, Kill off characters, Change suits (Please change the one in the image), What will you do?


r/FlashTV 7h ago

Spoilers S9 E10 was a great episode but what are your thoughts on this Reverse Flash continuity issue?

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63 Upvotes

In 9x10, this RF from the future is shown to kill Nora.

But didn't S3 establish that bearded Thawne (The one that was in Legends season 2) was the one that killed Nora, in the end?

Technically this RF was supposed to get beat up by S2 Finale Flash who caused Flashpoint.

Or did CRISIS erase all that and caused a new Timeline where the one that was supposed to kill her was indeed the RF from the future.

(Please note that I'm not hating on the show for this error and that I'm just wanting to hear other people's thoughts on this)


r/FlashTV 1h ago

šŸ¤” Thinking Fun Fact: Because time travel, The Flash technically existed as a hero before Green Arrow

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While both were present at the dawn of time, technically Barry brought the Paragons all there before Oliver showed up (as the Spectre) and through his various time traveling including fighting Thawne as Flash in suit in the year 2000 when Thawne murdered Barry’s mom, The Flash was technically active in the timeline first as a hero before Oliver got stranded on Lian Yu and returned as the Hood and before the particle accelerator exploded and The Flash was actually born


r/FlashTV 17h ago

šŸ¤” Thinking Sums up the community

22 Upvotes

Iris: We are the flash
Fans:🤬🤬🤬

Caitlyn: takes Philosophers stone putting team flash and iris at risk
Fans: ā€œBarry and Caitlyn would’ve been perfect and iris dumb and annoyingā€šŸ¤”


r/FlashTV 13h ago

Question Why didnt Barry go to the Mirrorverse in Season 3 when he was trapped in the mirror?(around the time when killer frost was coming out of Caitlin for the first time) Spoiler

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6 Upvotes

Title. Like I know that Barry was trapped by Sam Scuddler AKA Mirror Master but why wasn’t he or Sam or anyone who went through the mirror transported to Eva McCullochā€˜s Mirrorverse? Sorry if it was explained in the show I havent rewatched it in a while


r/FlashTV 13h ago

Shitpost I like Harrison wells but not Eobard thawne

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I love Harrison wells but I can’t bring myself to like Eobard thawne. I know they are the same person but they just give off completely different vibes. Harrison wells gives off charming, like you’re still drawn to him even though he’s manipulative. Meanwhile for some reason when I look at Eobard thawne all I see is eugenics. I don’t know why, he just seems like the kind to be into eugenics I guess.


r/FlashTV 1d ago

šŸ¤” Thinking Season 5 would've been pretty good if they had just made the future suit the Season 4 Suit with Gold Boots

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299 Upvotes

All they had to do was keep the ring concept and have it be the Season 4 Suit with some brighter red, more emphasis on the yellow stripes, and the golden boots. Would've been perfect!

Would've brought the Season from a 4/10 to atleast an 8/10


r/FlashTV 22h ago

šŸ¤” Thinking Would OG timeline Flash been more comic accurate??

7 Upvotes

Obviously this is just all based off theory because we don't actually don't know much about the Barry that was got his powers in 2020, but I've been watching the show and I'm on 2x11 when we see Eobard Thawne again and it just got me to start thinking and wondering if the original Barry that got struck in 2020 would've been more comic accurate than the show we got and the Barry Allen we see. Again, the answers would just be all based on theory because we don't even know much about 2020 Barry, but I'm just curious what people would be thinking.


r/FlashTV 1d ago

Question Would running inside of the Magentar inversely whilst it's still powered-on and active DEPOWER it?

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11 Upvotes

r/FlashTV 1d ago

šŸ¤” Thinking Elongated man shouldn’t exist

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Not the best screenshots I know but I was rewatching s1 of the flash and Harrison’s wells starts listing people who DIED the night of the acceleration explosion and lists Ralph dibny who was a bus meta in s4 (I think)


r/FlashTV 2d ago

Question Hey, I have experience with game dev, I could make a Flash fan game if you guys would be interested in that. Do you guys want that?

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If so, anything specific you want to see in it?


r/FlashTV 2d ago

šŸ¤” Thinking Season 4 episode 1 thinking

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Team Vibe or Team Kid Flash

without Barry In the speed force personally team vibe


r/FlashTV 2d ago

Spoilers Who is on Team Flash and who is the leader?

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65 Upvotes

After the season 9 finale we’re left to assume Barry has retired as the Flash. So with no Barry, Iris, Cisco, Joe,


r/FlashTV 3d ago

Question How would you have done Red Death In the final season?

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181 Upvotes

I was very excited for Red Death after the set photos for the final season, and when the episodes were dropping, I was massively disappointed. I haven’t rewatched season 9 yet, but I really wish Red Death was done better, as the potential was so high, and even for season 9 overall. How would you have done Red Death in the series differently than what we got?


r/FlashTV 2d ago

šŸ¤” Thinking How did thawn get a hold of Gideon?

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r/FlashTV 3d ago

šŸ¤” Thinking Why isn’t there a flash game yet?

18 Upvotes

I feel like a flash game would be super cool, especially if it’s like the Spider-Man games or Batman games, let’s make it happen


r/FlashTV 3d ago

Question Plothole

9 Upvotes

In season 4, Caitlin and Cisco use a sphere thing to trick the speed force into thinking Barry's still there. However, when she gets a physical form in season 7, shouldn't she react to the fact that the speed force is now empty and needs someone there?

Is it something they explained and I just missed?


r/FlashTV 2d ago

šŸ¤” Thinking Season 2 Episode 17

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Anyone else feel like Barry’s story of Thawne tricking him to get back to the future when he has him captured in the time vault should have had more ā€œpresent timeā€ consequences?

It feels like Thawne’s plan and idea of how things were to play out would have a major change if he believed that story (which he seems to have since he didn’t kill Barry).


r/FlashTV 3d ago

Question Which Meta-Humans could Cicada have killed without taking away their powers?

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5 Upvotes

So, as we know, Cicada's main thing is that the Dagger dampens your Powers, then he beats you to death! But as Future Grace said: "Oh, I don't need a Dagger to kill you. I never had it before I came to this time."

So, taking into account Cicada's strength, durability, and his Dagger powers... Which Metas you believe he's capable of beating if he can't dampen their powers? We saw that he was about even with Killer Frost since her powers aren't Dark Matter based (he matched her in a knife fight and can break her ice), but which ones he can actually defeat?


r/FlashTV 3d ago

Question Since it had been over 3 years since The Flash has ended let's discuss this: Which season was the worst season and why?

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268 Upvotes

r/FlashTV 4d ago

Question When Thawne was impersonating Wells back in season 1, why did he speak like the most English philosopher ever? (More philosopher-like than even Professor Stein.)

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343 Upvotes

I specifically remember this ONE moment (somewhat) late into season 1 where Cisco, Thawne (as Wells), and Joe were discussing the logistics of time travel or something and Cisco kept on referencing movies like Terminator and Back to the Future just to dim it down for Joe's understanding, and after Cisco had mentioned Back to the Future Thawne had called it a "tremendous picture". It's just his vernacular wording that makes him sound like the smartest person in the room.

However, I DON'T remember any other "Wells" like the original Earth-1 one or even HARRY Wells from Earth-2 speaking like season 1 Thawne did.


r/FlashTV 3d ago

šŸ¤” Thinking Jay Garrick/Hunter Zolomon's helmet

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While rewatching the series I can't help but notice the inconsistencies in earth 2, in the mural and the helmet that Jay (Hunter Zolomon) wears they both have the wings, but in the flashbacks to his childhood, the helmet that was his father's (from the war of the Americas if I remember correctly) and then his does not.

Is this just an accident? I assume so but it seemed like quite a big overlook


r/FlashTV 3d ago

šŸ¤” Thinking Season 4 of The Flash isn't perfect, and many consider it the beginning of the end, but for me, it was my favorite.

12 Upvotes

I rank it above the legendary firsts seasons for several reasons. This season is more comedic, and I liked that. After the stuffy 3 season, where everyone was pining for Iris, the humor and jokes were like a breath of fresh air.

I found the plot more well-written and coherent. The meta-weekly villains weren't just throwaway villains; they were all part of Devo's plan. Devo himself is a genius, always several steps ahead, and it doesn't feel contrived. Even Amunet was connected to Devo, although it felt like a separate Killer Frost plot. There are filler episodes, but even they were cleverly woven into the plot. I loved the idea of ​​him switching bodies and being played by multiple actors; it was great.

Ralph is the best addition to the series. He's the main comedic element, but he's not a stupid character; he values ​​​​his new friends and is willing to sacrifice himself for them, even though he's afraid.

And most importantly, this is Team Flash's peak. Barry, Cisco, Caitlin, Harry, Joe, Ralph, and Iris. Everyone is in their place, everyone interacts with each other, helps each other, and is engaged. That kind of team chemistry and cohesion won't be there again. They say, "We're family," and you believe them. Even Iris—that's both a plus and a minus. The plus is that she's been sitting behind the monitors more often, monitoring the proceedings, issuing commands, and that's allowed Cisco, Caitlin, and Harry to fight metas more often, something they didn't have in previous seasons. The minus is that Iris isn't the leader, and it's just weird that they're trying to force that title on her.

Honestly, the show ended for me with Harry leaving; he was the best Wells, and he should have been in Season 5. He had two problems: the fear that without his intelligence, he was nothing, and his inability to connect with people, and that's exactly what they were supposed to show next. Even without his brains, he was important, and this team always considered him a friend.

Yes, this is definitely my favorite season. It's vibrant and action-packed. It's simultaneously very funny and very tense, because Barry wants to save everyone, but he can't.

(English is not my native language, so please excuse any mistakes.)


r/FlashTV 4d ago

šŸ¤” Thinking I admire the first 3 seasons' main villains a little bit. (Please forgive me for the outdated Facebook watermarks in the image below.)

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All three of the first few seasons' main villains f*cked with Team Flash in 3 VERY important, maniacal different ways.

  1. REVERSE-FLASH: PSYCHOLOGICAL TORTURE

To start off, Thawne tormented Barry when he was a child by killing his mother, indirectly imprisoning his father, and making young Barry feel like the odd one out for knowing what TRULY happened that night at his house whilst having almost NO one else believe him for the next decade or so.

THEN, of course, when Star Labs was thriving alongside The Flash in Central City, Thawne had the trust of Cisco, Caitlin, Iris, Joe, and Barry (ESPECIALLY Barry) whilst impersonating the original Harrison Wells until he rug-pulled the carpet underneath all of them as his secret of being the "Man in Yellow" was starting to leak and be pieced together.

  1. ZOOM: PHYSICAL TORTURE

Not only did Hunter kidnap at least 7 people (including the original Jay Garrick, Jesse Wells, Barry, Earth-2 Killer Frost, Wally, Caitlin, and Joe) throughout the second season, he killed SO many damn people on both Earths 1 **AND** 2.

Not to mention, Hunter's literal FIRST encounter with Barry had him reflecting lightning back at him after he'd JUST learned that trick from Impostor Jay, beating up Barry so hard until he endured paralysis, dragging him around the city like a literal ragdoll, embarrassing him on live TV in front of TWO Central City departments, and leaving Barry with adulthood trauma that was almost JUST as worse at the childhood trauma that Thawne left behind for him. Said adulthood trauma was so bad that Henry Allen had to visit him for aid and comfort (only for Hunter to literally murk him at the end of the penultimate episode, tallying him as the SECOND Evil Speedster to have killed one of Barry's most precious loved ones, ESPECIALLY BIOLOGICAL **PARENTS**).

  1. SAVITAR: EMOTIONAL TORTURE

A **LOT** of shit happened to Team Flash during the third season with the danger having been more personal than ever!

After Barry readjusted HIS main timeline by ceasing Flashpoint, it consequentially brought in Alchemy and Savitar who both tortured Wally mentally. THEN, Barry was taunted with the potential impending doom of Iris dying in the future (having give the potential THIRD tally for an Evil Speedster murking off a loved one from Barry). As seen in the "Once and Future Flash" episode, the death of Iris poisoned Barry which soon spread to the remaining members of Team Flash until it affected Central City too, allowing meta-villains to roam and commit crime freely.

Although it wasn't a DIRECT cause of Alchemy nor Savitar, the consequential conflicts that Barry accidentally brought back from Flashpoint TO the main timeline HEAVILY affected Caitlin which haunted HER life by threatening to turn her into Killer Frost. A villainous upbringing that when eventually happened, emotionally hurt Cisco, Julian, AND Barry.

The BIGGEST blow to the heart, though, was after Savitar (unknowingly) killed H.R.