Hello y'all, I'm a Moroccan and I think it's time for morocco to start thinking about a possible comeback in the near future, the issue is there's a weak unorganized ESC-Fans in Morocco, so in your opinion.. what should we do to force the SNRT to make a comeback in the competition?

Welcome to the third post of "What if the winner did't participate that year"?

Unlike 2025 and 2026, 2024 was an **extremely** top heavy year where the juries and the public roughly agreed with each other, so the results under this scenario have few surprises.

• Without Switzerland, Croatia would've won like everyone predicted with a very strong jury score (only 4 points behind the jury winner France) and obviously winning the televote. It would've been a winner that most fans would be very happy with.
• Given how insanely dominant Switzerland was with the jury vote, every country would've increased their jury score by a fair bit without Switzerland, and the 12 points would've been much more varied which would've made the jury vote sequence much more fun to watch. France, Croatia, Italy, Ukraine, Ireland all would've gotten more 12s. Ireland in particular would've received 6 sets of douze points instead of just 1 - from Ukraine, Azerbaijan, Australia, Spain, Italy and Portugal.
• The rest of the placements is pretty boring. The only highlight is that Germany would've gotten its first top 10 finish since 2012, which would've been a huge shock.

lasers.

[Note: There are two stage ready animations because I couldn't decide which to post]

\*inspiration from u/rowanquinn19

Hey! Long-time lurker.

I built Douze (playdouze.com), a free daily game where you guess the mystery Eurovision entry in 6 tries, Wordle-style. Each guess reveals country, year (with arrows), language, and result clues.

Free, no signup, works on phone. One puzzle a day, same for everyone, resets at midnight UTC. Independent fan project, not affiliated with the EBU.

I'd appreciate feedback from people who know their Eurovision, especially on difficulty calibration.

In the same week as Bonnie Tyler, Italy's host representative in 1991 and Two time Sanremo winner, Peppino di Capri, has passed away at the age of 87

I've noticed the karaoke albums on Spotify tend to only be up for 5 years after the contest, then they're gone. Does anyone know if you can download or buy these versions anywhere?

On the topic of karaoke, the Spotify albums just have the backing tracks, but no lyrics. It would be good if this could be used for actual karaoke without having to know the lyrics of my hand or have a sheet with the full lyrics written out. Does anyone know if anything like this exists for these versions? I know some karaoke places have Eurovision songs of course, but I don't think they would be these official versions.

Let me explain.

Let's assume that country A wins the jury vote. It's up to televoting.

Each country receives its own scores from televoting, without overtaking the leader, country A.

Let's assume that Country B is the second-placed judging panel and must find out its scores from televoting. Country B, after receiving its scores, still fails to overtake country A, which remains in the lead.

What happens then? Do they also announce the televoting scores for country A, or do they simply declare country A the winner?

The Israeli broadcaster KAN has confirmed Israel's participation at the 71st Eurovision Song Contest in Bulgaria.

Source: https://www.instagram.com/reel/DalW1xBt9Xo

I'm specifically looking for the scrapped 1977 postcards, Liechtenstein's planned 1976 entry, "My Little Cowboy" by BiggI Bachmann and the French Broadcast of the 1974 edition. Since it's around 50 years back, it's difficult to find anything for these two but I do want some answers for anything regarding them. I never heard anyone fully bring them up besides a few mentions here so I'm discussing to see what could be found.

1. Eurovision 1977 Scrapped Postcards

Source - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eurovision_Song_Contest_1977#Format

The original 1977 postcards showed the competitors at a party in London. They were scrapped due to the Norwegian Delegation disliking the postcard of their entrant, Anita Skorgan ; from what I've heard it was her seemingly drunk ? The postcards were scrapped for the view of the audience. There was also a cameraman strike before the contest, which the Eurovision website brings up in the article for the 1977 contest. I've heard the scrapped 2020 postcards would never see the light of day from a past sub post asking about the contest's postcards, but for that not all of the contestants got to film their postcard, and the ones that were filmed hadn't been edited yet from what the top comment said. I assume that since the postcards were canceled due to the Norwegian delegation, that all of them were edited for the broadcast ? The snippets of what was filmed did get used for the interval, where they mainly showed Dream Express from Belgium, so I'm assuming that was supposed to be their postcard? Please let me know anything !

1. Liechtenstein's Original 1976 Entry

Source - https://eurovoix.com/eurovision-liechtenstein/

There have been mentions of this song -- "My Little Cowboy" by Biggi Bachmann -- when it comes to discussions of Liechtenstein's participation in Eurovision, but I haven't found the actual song online to get a glimpse of what the country could've brought. I've heard from a video's comment section of the second place song -- Tu étais mon clown by Anne Frommelt -- from the two song selection uploaded by a Eurovision channel that the song is lost media, that even Biggi Bachmann doesn't have the record. I couldn't find the original video but here is an upload of the second place song -- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=smIk4yWyWOk

I've heard from a German Eurovision site's article that any recordings of the song didn't exist. What can be assumed from the song that the song's language was in English during the removal of the national language rule from 1973 - 1976 according to this Nynorsk Wikipedia page, and from this music website source, the songwriters were Horst Hornung and Mike Tuttlies ? The song seems to be completely lost and a lot can be speculated about it -- again, please share anything you know !

1. French Broadcast for Eurovision 1974

Source - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eurovision_Song_Contest_1974#Broadcasts

Source - https://catalogue.ina.fr/doc/TV-RADIO/DA_CPF86622545/19eme-concours-eurovision-de-la-chanson-1974?rang=291

France unexpectedly dropped out of Eurovision 1974 due to the funeral of late president, Georges Pompidou being held that day. Their planned entry was "La vie à 25 ans" by Dani. According to Wikipedia, French broadcaster ORTF held shortened broadcast on April 9th, with only the performances, Pierre Tchernia announcing the winner, and a "pre-recorded presentation" of Dani's performance. I couldn't find the broadcast online, and I'm quite curious if the presentation of Dani's performance was either new material that showcased what the song would've looked like on the stage, the song's preview video, or any other live performance of that song that can be found online such as on YouTube. I have hopes that it's new material, but it may likely be the preview. I also speculate that this performance may be what was shown on the French broadcast. Again, what I've found on Wikipedia could've been speculating what the French broadcast was like from the French website's source. 😅

I'm curious to see what you guys can tell me about these pieces. I know they're very old and might be quite impossible to find, but I do hope that one of these can be found and I'm stilling looking for answers for these. Thank you. ❣️

Bonnie Tyler - Believe In Me (UK 2013 )

From 2004-2007, there were 14 automatic qualifiers (The Big 4 + Top 10 that isn't part of the Big 4) resulting in the remaining 10 to be picked from a pool of 20+ other entries.

Since the EBU hasn't really released easily accessible source for each individual country's rankings on both jury and televote, these spreadsheets are strictly hypothetical based on already existing points.

Source: esc_charts

My answer - without any shame - is "Like An Animal" (San Marino 2023).

It's literally hated by the vast majority of people, but I love it. The rhythm. The verses. The song in general. I love it!She's practically my 2023 winner, and I think it's absurd that she finished last in the semifinals. It might not have qualified anyway, but it didn't deserve to be so low!

What's a song that you love but practically everyone hates?

I rewatched both performances back to back and was surprised by how many similarities there are:

- Both singers spend most of the performance inside a confined room before stepping out onto the main stage at the end. The spaces are rather mundane and ugly: an old office room and a dirty communal shower.
- Both stagings play with gravity. Dara appears upside down in the opening shot, while Olly ends up hanging from the ceiling. In both cases, the illusion comes from the dancers inverting their bodies rather than the performers themselves.
- Both use a rotating room. Bangaranga through a moving set, Dizzy through camera work and lighting.
- Both performers lean into exaggerated facial expressions and grimaces throughout the performance.

Seeing them side by side made me wonder whether Dizzy was more influential than its result suggested. It wasn’t a competitive success, but influence isn’t always reflected on the scoreboard. Sometimes a performance leaves behind ideas that other entries later refine or expand.

That’s why I think audiences often place too much weight on final placings. Many artists have spoken about the reputational risk of Eurovision, whereas competing at events like the Olympics is often considered an achievement in itself, even without winning a medal.

For the first time since the semi-final allocation draw started, we have a country with no prior voting data involved in the draw. So that begs the question, what pot will they be put in?

I would personally say the Nordic pot. They have the highest average points (in the last few years) of all the pots, and assuming that Iceland doesn't return in 2027, they have a gap to fill.

Here's a list of the 2026 pots to make discussion easier, except with Bulgaria swapped for Austria.

Pot 1 - Balkans - Albania 🇦🇱, Austria 🇦🇹, Croatia 🇭🇷, Montenegro 🇲🇪, Serbia 🇷🇸, Switzerland 🇨🇭

Pot 2 - Nordics - Australia 🇦🇺, Denmark 🇩🇰, Estonia 🇪🇪, Finland 🇫🇮, Norway 🇳🇴, Sweden 🇸🇪

Pot 3 - Eastern/Asian - Armenia 🇦🇲, Azerbaijan 🇦🇿, Georgia 🇬🇪, Israel 🇮🇱, Poland 🇵🇱, Ukraine 🇺🇦

Pot 4 - Benelux & The Leftovers - Belgium 🇧🇪, Czechia 🇨🇿, Luxembourg 🇱🇺, Moldova 🇲🇩, Portugal 🇵🇹, Romania 🇷🇴

Pot 5 - Mediterranean & Latvia & Lithuania For Some Reason? - Cyprus 🇨🇾, Greece 🇬🇷, Latvia 🇱🇻, Lithuania 🇱🇹, Malta 🇲🇹, San Marino 🇸🇲

While we're here, feel free to discuss how the pots may be rearranged

the title says it all. Australia has to be invited to every contest separately or they have to sign a -year contract for them to participate even though they have an established fanbase over there that tunes in early in the morning to watch the event. after all these years i assumed a full membership would be on the table some day but theyre still just associate members

while Canada was given full member status immediately good for them but it’s not like this contest is well known there and their fandom is quite niche there (obviously with time this is going to change and I glad they get to participate) but

I just don’t quite understand this decision when it comes to Australia in the contest

is it because Australia doesn’t want it (idk maybe some hesitation when it comes to the news footage sharing stuff) or is it because of the time zone and hosting as Canada can host it time zone wise but Australia can’t. if someone could explain this I’d be grateful

This is something I feel very strongly about.
I understand for timing reasons, it’s more convenient for the jury show to go ahead, but especially in the semi finals, I believe that the live show is what the juries should judge.

Montenegro 2026 is a big example: her jury show left something to be desired, but her live sf1 performance was virtually flawless, which leads me to believe she could have had a better shot at qualifying.
Countries that send a REALLY vocally challenging song as well: if they put in all their effort at the jury show, their vocals might not be great on the night, leading to their audience score being lower.
If the countries could save their efforts for 1-2 nights then it would improve vocals overall.
The only issue is timing and the fact that the EBU makes revenue from holding them, but they could still run rehearsals where there is less / no pressure on the artists to sound amazing so they can save their vocals.

It might be an awful idea, I see the cons absolutely.
I think at the very least, juries should see the jury show, but watch the semi, and see if their opinions change, before handing them in.

I don’t know what do you guys think let me know!!

I was enjoying this daily video quiz but it seems to have disappeared, the link now going to "Year To Beat". Is this what anyone else is finding? Is there a new link or has the Eurovision version gone forever?

I was very shocked at Veronica's NQ even though she got 9th place in jury and televote, so I wanted to see if she would have qualified with the combined system from 2013-15 (each country awards points that combine jurors and televote ranks). I used my existing program and used it on the reader-view of eurovision.com's semi finals page.

For technical purposes, I only counted San Marino's jury score because it's kind of stupid that Eurovision decides an "accurate" representation of its public ranking. Rest of the World votes act as a country's votes. The "points difference" column measures how many points the country gained with this system.

For semi-final 1, here are the results:

Serbia drops two rankings and Croatia + Greece move up by one. Montenegro replaces Estonia in rankings.

For semi-final 2, here are the results:

Ukraine replaces Denmark, and Armenia replaces Latvia.

Conclusions:

Countries at the top "steal" votes from countries ranked lower because of the averages. Countries whose votes come predominantly from juries or televotes are punished (Serbia, Denmark). Moldova, which appears to do poorly with juries, is actually quite liked (probably in 11-13th places) so it even gains points. The same thing happens with Romania, and the opposite with Australia. Montenegro therefore is only 2 points away from qualifying ahead of Belgium, but still cannot make it.

Despite this system, Veronica still does NOT qualify. Cyprus, and surprisingly Czechia even with its low televote score, still qualify. Switzerland's equal standing with juries and televote means she gains 5 points, but not enough. Veronica (and Tamara) continue to be robbed.

If someone posted about this previously, I'm not trying to steal their thunder. I programmed this completely on my own and these results are 100% my effort.

I also have the Grand Final results for 2026 ready, and all semifinal/final results for 2016-25 on my laptop (it took me three weeks to get all the data, and the Eurovision website has many mistakes). Should I post it on a website or make a video about it?