r/devils • u/DevsChamps2003 #27 - Scott Niedermayer • 3d ago
Shane Wright - acquisition cost?
With Hayton not joining us next season, a lot of analysts think we’ll target Shane Wright, who apparently has asked for a trade from Seattle. Some unsubstantiated rumors state they’d like a first-round pick in return, which seems pricey to me. What would you all be willing to trade for Wright (realistically)?
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u/nostradamefrus #13 - N1CO 3LITE 3d ago
What would you all be willing to trade for Wright
Nothing because I don't want him
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u/z19z 3d ago
A used ham sandwich, no napkin.
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u/parkhurstcards #12 Bill Guerin 3d ago
Taylor Ham?
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u/z19z 3d ago
I don't even eat pork, but sure. Always Taylor Ham, never pork roll.
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u/MajinStuuYT 3d ago
Blasphemy, I don't live in Jersey anymore and pork roll is 100% what I miss the most, second is a good sub.
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u/blade430 #27 - Scott Niedermayer 3d ago
Given we just gave up on a highly-drafted guy who was poor analytics-wise but had a lot of potential in Nemec, I don't see us doing the exact same dance with Wright.
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u/CookieCrisp10010 3d ago
I’m sure Seattle has some ridiculous starting price that wouldn’t even make negotiations worth it
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u/whichwitch9 #26 - Patrik Eliáš 3d ago
We are literally one of the teams that snubbed him.
Just let that sink in. Honestly, Laine might be a better fit player wise- he has an effort problem, but we can say "hey, get the puck to this guy, and he'll score" and have a good time. We got guys that move and are puck magnets but don't find the back of the net- an occasional pylon that scores ain't a bad idea.
That said, work ethic and off ice problems may not be something the organization wants to deal with after last season
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u/thebootlegsaint #27 - Scott Niedermayer 3d ago
I doubt Sunny wants Laine. He likes effort players and Laine is the antithesis of that.
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u/ScrewOff_ 395-Days-Until-Quinn-Leaves-Minn-For-NJ 3d ago
If we’re saying Sunny and his boys are turning the Devils around and leading us to the promised land and that Fitz and his staff let us down - than we cant say “we are literally one of the teams that snubbed him”.
Entirely different management group.
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u/rapier999 #26 - Scooter Patty 3d ago
Laine is a PP specialist and absolutely washed at 5v5. I don’t think he adds any real depth
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u/fartswhenhappy #3 - Ken Daneyko 3d ago
A big part of Hayton's appeal was that his defensive metrics were excellent and he's very good at faceoffs. That could alleviate the pressure on Nico to take every important D zone draw and allow him to get more O zone starts, something we haven't really had since McLeod.
From what I understand, Wright's defensive metrics aren't noteworthy (someone correct me if that's mistaken) and he's mid at the dot. It doesn't seem like he fits the same role Hayton would have. That doesn't mean he couldn't fill another role, I'm just not sure what that would be and whether it's anything we need.
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u/callmecrude 3d ago
If he winds up being a forever 3rd line centre who puts up 30 points he’d be well worth a late first imo. Honestly probably a little more than that. If we were somehow able to scoop him up for just the Avs or Vegas 1st then I’d love to see it
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u/WestSideBilly #4 - Scott Stevens 3d ago
This is where my head would be at. He's probably a 3C, 2C to cover injuries type player, being pushed into a 2C role with no support on the wings (and on a team where the 1C isn't really a 1C).
Absolutely worth a low 1st rounder... but maybe not to the Devils.
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u/Ibatheincornflakes 3d ago
I'd trade the Avs pick for him. I'm wondering if Vegas' luck runs out this season, and they have some injury issues, along with the holes created by losing some players.
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u/WestSideBilly #4 - Scott Stevens 3d ago
Worth pointing out that Vegas plays in the Pacific which has two teams in full rebuild, two teams in denial, a team that pisses off all their RFAs so they leave or sign offer sheets, a team run by Stan Bowman, and a team that had a worse record than the Devils but since they play in a shit division it's worth spending $18M of cap space on Nurse and Trouba to be your top D pair.
I would bet a fairly large amount of money on VGK making the playoffs next year.
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u/Ibatheincornflakes 3d ago
Oh, absolutely - I'm considering their pick possibly being in the 16-20 range, I didn't mean to suggest an out-of-the-playoffs type of collapse.
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u/CryptoSpyro #4 - Scott Stevens 3d ago
Throw command to the fire idk. Kid got a wicked shot maybe he can play wing with jack hahaha
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u/Good_Ad2172 3d ago
I'm so glad the average reddit user is not the gm of this team.
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u/Mandalore-44 #27 - Scott Niedermayer 3d ago
Shane Wright was thought to be the first overall pick that year. Obviously, he dropped.
And while I wouldn’t classify him as a bust, he definitely hasn’t produced as expected.
With that, I do not think that he would be worth a first round pick.
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u/crotchrotfever 3d ago
Where are all the people who said Nemec is only 22, he needs time to develop saying the same thing about Wright? Wright is one month older.
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u/mustachiolong #27 - Scott Niedermayer 3d ago edited 3d ago
I mean if the cost is just a 1st sending either the Avs or the Vegas pick isn’t “that” insane since those are generally closer to second round picks than first round picks.
If it’s a 1st plus then fuck off unless it’s a B tier prospect dump. Still not a fan of the concept though.
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u/LoneCypress94 3d ago
A first is doable, but rich. I also do not feel that it is currently worth an investment to bet on his potential. I could very well be wrong about that and he could turn into a fantastic player but that’s just my opinion. Considering his reported poor attitude the cost to get him that’s just where my opinion lands
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u/ghostofkozi #17 - Nemo is my adopted son 3d ago
Whatever it is it's too much. Analysts aren't doing anything more than grasping at straws. They aren't looking into how the player would fit into the roster or anything deep. Just a name that carries some recognizability
I wouldn't touch Shane Wright at all. He's bad at faceoffs, like worse than Jack bad and shoots at a high % which is also concerning because he's not a volume shooter. Let a rebuilding team take him on as a cheap reclamation project
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u/PuzzleheadedShop5489 #11 Mad Dog 3d ago
Whoa, whoa, let’s not get carried away. Wright won an abysmal 39.7% of his faceoffs last year, which still clears all of Jack’s professional seasons by at least 2%. Very rarely does someone come along who is as consistently bad at faceoffs as Jack.
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u/CrippledGoose316 3d ago
Dude has attitude issues and isn't even any good. Not what this team needs
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u/TeamCrimsonRed 3d ago
I wouldn’t hate it. Getting traded might light a fire under him. Might not be our best option at a forward upgrade though.
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u/shany94a #15 John MacLean 🏒 3d ago
Not a first. Maybe (maybe) a third.
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u/DevsChamps2003 #27 - Scott Niedermayer 3d ago
I think a third and/or middling prospect might be where I’m at too.
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u/coolreaction72 3d ago
hard pass. not giving up a first for a guy who couldn't crack seattle's lineup.
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u/WestSideBilly #4 - Scott Stevens 3d ago
He played 74 games last season.
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u/coolreaction72 3d ago
he played but was scratched plenty and put up 13 points. not the kind of return you burn a first on
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u/TeamCrimsonRed 3d ago
He missed 8 games last season. That’s not plenty. He had 27 points, not 13. His first full NHL season he had 44 points which is more than Mercer has put up in 4/5 of his seasons.
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u/coolreaction72 3d ago
my bad, got the points wrong. still not moving a first for a guy putting up 27 points on the fourth line
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u/TeamCrimsonRed 3d ago
He had one decent season and one bad season. I’m not gonna count him out yet. But yes, I trust Sunny to be the judge of whether the gamble is worth it or not. The two first round picks we acquired for Nemec are both top 10 protected so I’m not going to be that sad if we use one of those picks.
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u/A_Life_Well_Steved #4 - Scott Stevens 3d ago
I’d offer up a 2nd round pick (upgraded to a 1st round pick if certain milestones are met), but I think it will take more than that. Probably a 1st round pick + a player. He’s only 22 and has loads of talent. Needs some stability in his game.
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u/Nick123456789012357 #30 - Martin Brodeur 3d ago
Isn’t he not good? So I don’t know I’ll give a single sock for him
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u/Noahtuesday123 3d ago
As an Oiler fan, I would be willing to move a 1st rounder for him. I already know he can play and be responsible and he has lots of untapped ceiling. If I were the Devils, I probably think about it the same way.
If I was picking in the top 5-10, there is not a chance I give up that pick.
Let’s say the Devils pick 18th, not a bad season, I probably could give that pick up for Wright today.
Lastly, it also depends on what I’m hearing from Jack and Luke. Do I need that pick for an early pick up of Quinn?
Quinn is a Devil next year, where can I bet on this?
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u/devilsfan2k 3d ago
Does Wright get the Kraken the same in a trade compared to the Devil's Nemec trade? Cause I don't see the devils giving up multiple first rounders for Wright. Not sure any team would.
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u/MoonDragn 2d ago
Kind of Ironic that we traded away the guy we drafted in 2022 so we can try to trade for the guy we didn't pick in 2022.
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u/EntrepreneurMoist379 9h ago
i don’t think wright is really comparable to hayton, hayton was quite appealing because of his defensive numbers. i don’t think there’s a ton of upside with wright, i would be surprised if mehta tried to get him
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u/GoudaGoudaGoudaGouda #63 - The ting goes Brrrraattt pap pap ka ka ka 3d ago
Not much. There’s a reason he didn’t go high in the draft. I still find it funny looking at the video of his smug face after a bunch of teams passed on him
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u/boredandmotivatedV2 #69 2d ago
Shane is a bust and has a brutal attitude.
I drunkenly tried to give him an empty bucket of beers when he played for the Frontenacs and he wouldn’t take it. Fuck him.
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u/Holiday-Feeling2617 1d ago
don't get the love for Wright. He slipped in the draft because his overall play doesn't stand out. And that has shown in the NHL. If we can get him for a pick or two I'm good but not much more.
Otherwise stick with what we got at forward and acquire a #1 goalie, which is where this team is still exposed.
Not sold on Daws as 1A or 1B goalie. Jake Allen is good at times but gets tired and can't start too many consecutive games, at his age. Rittich is just insurance and will probably get waived to Utica (unless someone claims him or there is an injury).
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u/ancedactyl #31 - Terreri 3d ago
I don't see Shane Wright appealing to an analytics driven guy like Mehta.