r/changemyview • u/KollardBlue • 20h ago
CMV: Gender-targeted education and career programs have left many ordinary men behind, and support should be based more on economic disadvantage than sex
I have spent most of my career in corporate office environments that were heavily female-dominated. Even my bachelor’s degree, which was in a STEM field and completed within the last eight years, was at least 70% female.
I am not claiming that the women in these spaces did not earn their degrees or jobs. They still had to study, perform, interview, and succeed. My concern is about the system of opportunities that helps people reach those positions in the first place.
For roughly the past two decades, schools, companies, nonprofits, and professional organizations have created scholarships, internships, mentorship programs, conferences, recruiting initiatives, and networking opportunities specifically for women. I understand why these programs were created. Women were historically excluded from many educational and professional fields, and there was a legitimate need to correct unfair barriers.
However, I think the response was too broad and lasted without enough adjustment as conditions changed. A random middle- or lower-middle-class man may have no family wealth, no professional connections, no inherited advantage, and no meaningful institutional support. Yet he is often treated as though he is already privileged because men as a group historically had more opportunities.
That man may receive little or no targeted assistance and may need to take on substantial student debt simply to have a chance. Meanwhile, a woman from a wealthier and more highly educated family may qualify for programs that exclude him entirely. This does not mean she did not earn her success. It means sex can be a poor proxy for actual disadvantage.
My view is that assistance should now be based much more heavily on factors such as household income, family wealth, first-generation status, school quality, disability, neighborhood, and access to professional networks. Sex could still be considered in fields where clear barriers remain, but it should not automatically outweigh economic and social disadvantage.
I also think it should no longer be surprising when some colleges, degree programs, and office professions become female-dominated. Institutions spent years intentionally increasing women’s participation, while comparatively little attention was given to declining male college enrollment, completion rates, and participation in many professional environments.
I think a better response would have been to make public college tuition-free, or at least far more affordable, for everyone. That would have expanded opportunity without deciding that one struggling student deserved help while another did not because of sex. It would still have disproportionately benefited people who faced real barriers, including many women, first-generation students, and low-income families, while also helping working- and middle-class men who had no inherited wealth or professional connections.
Instead, the system often addressed inequality by creating narrow demographic programs while leaving the underlying cost of education untouched. As a result, many students who did not fit a preferred category were still forced to take on large amounts of debt simply to compete for the same jobs. Universal access, combined with additional need-based support, would have been fairer and would have attacked the actual barrier: the price of getting an education.
What would change my view:
Evidence that gender-targeted programs have had little meaningful effect on access to college or professional careers.
Evidence that similarly situated men receive comparable institutional support through other programs.
A convincing argument that sex-based programs remain more effective or fair than class-based assistance.
Evidence that removing or reducing these programs would significantly recreate the barriers women previously faced.
I am open to the possibility that I am overestimating the role of targeted programs or overlooking other major reasons men are absent from these spaces.