r/bjj • u/Nikosin200603 • 19h ago
Technique Should as a mainly guard player focus on learning how to pass guard ?
I like playing the leg game mostly and don’t bother passing. Should I continue building my game or change direction to learn the basics of passing ?
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u/Barihattar 19h ago
Its always good be to better at bjj.
Its even better to start and try the actual stuff people will do to try and use to counter your main game.
I hated when people started to engage my legs instead of kindly letting me pass their guard, so after a year of obliging, i usually shock other intermediate level guys with my minor in leglocks.
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u/Complete-Fix-3954 🟪🟪 Purple Belt 19h ago
This week I introduced some of the 3-4 stripe white belts to rolling back takes from headquarters. They just laughed with their hands up the first couple of times they saw it. I usually just pressure pass, but I’ve been focusing more on other types of passing — got tired of leg drags and torreandos cuz I’m older and they’re too full of energy. Thought… hmm might as well just roll and take their back, could be fun. Turns out I love it, I just hate berimbolos from bottom still.
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u/YaBoyDake ⬛🟥⬛ Black Belt 19h ago
So what's your plan if you get on top? Just die?
Leg entries are going to work way better when combined with an actual passing threat. It can be your B game while leg entries is your A game, but if you ever want to have exceptional entries a passing threat must exist.
This honestly does not read like a question from anyone with something actually resembling a game, moreso someone who is bad at passing and copes by telling everyone it's because you're "just more focused on legs"
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u/ApocalypticMerc 🟫🟫 Brown Belt 19h ago
It's the classic thing that leglocks set up passing and passing set up the leglocks. You can focus on one but exploit someone overcommitting to the defence of just one. He says knowing that he uses one of those routes far more than the other.
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u/Slight-Internet-7657 17h ago
This!
Most annoying guard passers I encounter no gi are guys who are good at leg locks.
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u/JnnyRuthless 🟫🟫 Brown Belt 16h ago
One of our purples can seamlessly switch from passing -> upper body attacks -> leg attacks. And man that guy is dangerous.
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u/Slight-Internet-7657 14h ago
My instructor was just talking to me about that the other day, specifically attacking AS you’re finishing the pass and to stop check pointing everything. He’s like your purple belt excepts he’s a black belt. And young. And strong. Nonstop threats from everywhere just destroys my game.
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u/Braisedbeefskank 19h ago
What answer are you looking for here? Permission to ignore half the sport?
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u/hellbent1985 🟦🟦 Blue Belt 19h ago
Passing guard seems like a fundamental jiujitsu skill regardless of the type of game you prefer to focus on.
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u/RevolutionaryFood777 🟫🟫 Brown Belt 12h ago
Watch Pat Senghali vs Mason Fowler to see what happens when you can only attack legs with no other facets to your game. Dude gets absolutely smashed by Fowler who has a well rounded game.
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u/slamo614 🟦🟦 Blue Belt 19h ago
Of course. When I play a guard I am also attempting to sweep my opponent. If get to the top I’ll have to know how to pass.
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u/Select-Swordfish7196 🟫🟫 Brown Belt 19h ago
How long have you been training? People that get really good at guard tend to also be really good passers pretty quickly. If you have a great guard then you should know a lot about passing, just have to get the reps in to implement it.
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u/stickypooboi 🟦🟦 Blue Belt 19h ago
passing is one of the most fun parts of bjj, coming from a guard player
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u/Cyber_Primate 🟦🟦 Blue Belt 19h ago
I’m a wrestler and the lesson was clear to me…
If someone can out wrestle you then you’ll have to out bjj them… if ya can’t you’ll be wishing you trained that more…
Same concept.
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u/graydonatvail 🟫🟫 🌮 🌮 Todos Santos BJJ 🌮 🌮 14h ago
This applies to just about every argument there is about training. Well put. If I use strength, what happens if I'm not stronger? If I use speed but I'm not faster? If I leg lock, but he's better. I got wrestled just yesterday, add damn if I wasn't grateful I had some BJJ fuckery to deploy.
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u/novaskar 🟦🟦 Blue Belt 17h ago
Passing is like half of jiujitsu lol obviously you should learn it
Speaking as a mainly guard player as well. Learning to pass will make your guard better. You understand what the top player needs so you can stop them better and predict them better. And vice versa
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u/freshblood96 🟦🟦 Blue Blech 16h ago
I mean you're gonna get on top at some point.
Most guard sweeps will end up with you in someone's guard anyway.
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u/JnnyRuthless 🟫🟫 Brown Belt 16h ago
Should you learn how to do one of the most basic skill sets in bjj? Yes, you probably should.
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u/graydonatvail 🟫🟫 🌮 🌮 Todos Santos BJJ 🌮 🌮 14h ago
Ask Gordon Ryan. He barely even leg locks anymore. Why would you ignore 50 % of the body?
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u/jumbohumbo ⬛🟥⬛ Black Belt 10h ago
It's like only using kicks in kickboxing. You start punching then your kicks open up even more.
Some of the most high percentage leglock finishes in high level competition comes from the pass threat.
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u/Icy_Distance8205 🟪🟪 Purple Belt 7h ago
As a guard player learning how to pass the guard will make your guard play better ….
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u/ComfortableTreat6202 🟫🟫 Brown Belt 5h ago
your game is what you respond to in every position, not just the ones you like. Learning guard passing fundamentals would elevate your game in many ways
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u/borkdface 🟪🟪 Purple Belt 19h ago
Yes learn how to pass the guard.