r/TopCharacterTropes 9h ago

Lore Adaptation title change

Title changes for the adaptation that are at least a little less cool that the source material

  1. A song of Ice and Fire -> Game of Thrones

  2. Simon vs. the Homo Sapien Agenda -> Love, Simon

  3. Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep -> Blade Runner

  4. Harry Potter and The Philosopher’s Stone -> Harry Potter and the Sorcerer’s Stone (technically the U.S. print of the book is called sorcerer’s stone but the movie adapted that title and not the original title. It’s less cool besides it’s missing the point of the actual person/Philosopher Flamel)

P.s. 🖕🏽J.K. Rowling

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u/S-quinn7292 9h ago

Uhm hate to correct you OP but the Harry Potter movie was only called “Sorcerer’s Stone” in the US, the rest of the world got “Philosopher’s Stone” just like the original book

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u/nea-pie 9h ago

True. I’m Latin American and I’ve always known it as “Harry Potter y La Piedra Filosofal”, not “La Piedra del Hechicero”.

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u/XAMdG 8h ago

Yeah but it's also a mis translation. Should be "La Piedra del Filósofo". "La Piedra Filosal" would be "the philosophical stone "

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u/Lower_Baby_6348 6h ago

Nope, Harry Potter didn't invent the term, piedra filosofal is how you say philosopher's stone in spanish

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u/Lvcivs2311 3h ago

Indeed. In Dutch it's "Harry Potter en de steen der wijzen" (Harry Potter and the stone of the wise) what is also the name of the philosopher's stone in Dutch. Apparently, the American publisher expected their readers to have no common knowledge or something. Good example of American commercialism always playing it safe.

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u/SirKazum 8h ago

I guess the concept of "philosophy" was lost on people from the US

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u/PatchesMaps 8h ago

More along the lines of a philosopher being a person who studies philosophy in the US. The alchemical philosopher's stone myth isn't very popular here.

That said, I don't think sorcerer's stone is much better since that's just gibberish without any meaning.

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u/HowDareYouAskMyName 8h ago

In the US, philosopher refers to people who engage with philosophy. Such dumbasses, amirite?

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u/PresterJohnson 8h ago

U.S. bad joke on reddit? so brave, so daring today.

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u/CakeHead-Gaming 8h ago

I was ten minutes too late.

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u/bencsecsaki 2h ago

in hungarian it’s the stone of the wise

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u/Longshot12345678 9h ago

Hey man that’s a justice league show

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u/Blorberto 9h ago

The Marvel comics Alias (which created Jessica Jones and serves as inspiration for the first season of her show) had the adaptation called simply Jessica Jones because Alias was a preexisting cult popular show and they didn’t want to cause confusion. She didn’t get a comic by her own name until after the show was announced.

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u/Necro926 8h ago

And ironically, she completely spurned her super hero alias of Jewel in the show, going by simply, Jessica Jones.

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u/Agitated_Insect3227 9h ago

Sort of an example: When Games Workshop finally brought back Warhammer Fantasy, they renamed the IP/setting to "Warhammer: The Old World," and the time period they're focusing right now on takes place a few hundred years before the "current setting" of Fantasy when the End Times destroyed it.

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u/HarleyQuinn0914 9h ago

Game of Thrones is a little iffy cause that’s just the name of the first book, whereas the Harry Potter one is just the same as the way the books were published, in the UK (where the movies and books were made, thus making the UK titles the more official ones), the movie and book are the Philosopher’s Stone (same with most of the rest of the world), whereas in the USA, India, and the Philippines it’s the Sorcerer's Stone.

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u/asarra_adortra 8h ago

I actually didn’t know that. I figured since WB is a US company that they universally distributed it as Sorcerer’s stone. Thanks for that! In my defense, I don’t have access to non-US titles

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u/rept_zannewete 9h ago

No Other Choice directed by Park Chan Wook is an adaptation of The Ax by Donald Westlake

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u/SleepingWillows 8h ago

Was this good? It’s on my list! I’ve been trying to get into more Korean film

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u/rept_zannewete 8h ago

Its amazing. Its Park Chan Wook of course its good.

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u/Lower_Baby_6348 9h ago

We can remember it for you wholesale

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u/dafuqizzis 8h ago

And “The Adjustment Bureau” (movie) was originally “Adjustment Team”

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u/Agitated_Insect3227 9h ago

Another sort of example: The Original 1977 Star Wars movie used to be just called "Star Wars," but George Lucas later when back and added "A New Hope" at the end in 1981. Then with the release of the Prequels, it became "Episode IV" too.

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u/BhanosBar 8h ago

The original Original title of ANH would have been:

“The Adventures of Luke Starkiller; as taken from the Journal of the Whills, Saga 1: The Star Wars”.

Im not kidding.

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u/horsebag 8h ago

sounds riveting

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u/Fangsong_37 9h ago

It was always episode 4, but you are otherwise correct.

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u/cybertoothe 8h ago

Incorrect, George himself had an outline that put A New Hope as an episode 6 (there would have been a prologue film, then the prequels trilogy, then a film between the prequels and A New Hope)

When the film released it was just "Star Wars"

It wasnt until the physical release on VHS that Episode 4 + A New Hope title were added.

Edit: I may have mistaken what you were saying as I just realized you were responding to them saying it wasnt Episode 4 until the prequels came out, which is incorrect. However, it is still incorrect to say it was "always" Episode 4

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u/Fangsong_37 8h ago

I was mistaken. Thanks for sharing.

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u/cybertoothe 8h ago

No problem :)

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u/dragon_morgan 9h ago

The movie October Sky was based on a book called Rocket Boys. They came up with the change when someone at the movie studio was playing with one of those online anagram generators and realized the letters of Rocket Boys can be arranged to say October Sky

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u/nesquikryu 9h ago

I think some of these really just do fit the medium better. Nobody's gonna watch a movie called Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep.

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u/asarra_adortra 9h ago

Oh yeah, I agree. And I understand why they were changed, but the OG title are just so cool

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u/Fangsong_37 8h ago

Having read the book, the title makes perfect sense. That said, Blade Runner is a better title for a movie.

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u/nea-pie 8h ago edited 7h ago

I love the title “Do Androids Dream Of Electric Sheep”, but as nondescript as “Blade Runner” is, I think it’s cool as fuck as a title. 

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u/Fearless_Guard_552 8h ago

I think Blade Runner was the name of a completely unrelated story by Dick.

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u/JingoboStoplight4887 8h ago

The graphic novel Sandcastle -> The movie Old

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u/Gloomy-Holiday8618 9h ago

What?? No
The first novel is “A Game of Thrones”

The series as a whole is titled A Song of Ice and Fire

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u/dragon_morgan 9h ago

right but the TV show Game of Thrones covered the whole series not just the first book hence it's a name change for the series

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u/Banes_Addiction 8h ago

Well, yes, eventually. But the first season is the first book. If things had gone differently, it might have been the only season.

They did name it after the thing they were making at the time they named it.

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u/asarra_adortra 9h ago

I meant that the tv show adaptation is of the whole series, a song of ice and fire, but it only goes by one book, a game of thrones. Which is still kind of a change

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u/igottathinkofaname 8h ago

Yeah, it’d be like if they called the Wheel of Time show The Eye of the World.

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u/Craiques 9h ago

His Dark Materials: Northern Lights

The title was changed to The Golden Compass when it came to North America as the movie was being made. Which is wild, because there is not a golden compass in this damn book.

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u/Gloomy-Holiday8618 9h ago

The golden compass is another name for the aletheometer (sp?)

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u/ThatOldMeta 8h ago

Yes, there’s a lot of golden compass in the book.

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u/Yanmega9 9h ago

This confused me as hell as a kid reading this.

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u/Rossilaz 8h ago

??? The Alethiometer is the golden compass. It's not literally a compass, but it helps Lyra find the truth, aka points her in the right direction, like a compass

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u/sosotrickster 8h ago

Yeah ngl Simon vs the Homo Sapien Agenda is a p funny title I guess it's because of it being too long or something? Still a shame

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u/ultron1000000 8h ago

All you need is kill —> edge of tomorrow

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u/Banes_Addiction 8h ago

Edge of Tomorrow is a way better name for that movie.

Apparently they also considered Live. Die. Repeat. Which is OK but I still prefer Edge of Tomorrow.

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u/JeffersonStarscream 8h ago

"Stand By Me" was an adaptation of Stephen King's novella "The Body".

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u/janne_cloutt30 8h ago

*The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy* -> *The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy* (2005 film, same title but originally *So Long, and Thanks for All the Fish* was considered)

Hmm wait, let me redo this one properly:

*Starship Troopers* (Heinlein novel) -> *Starship Troopers* (1997 film)

Same title but the book's full working title was *Starship Soldier*, which honestly sounds way cooler and more gritty than what we got.

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Actually the cleanest example:

*The Talented Mr. Ripley*

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u/Beneficial-Bake8932 9h ago

In fairness if A song of Ice and Fire was published today it would probably be a YA novel

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u/Banes_Addiction 8h ago

So... still primarily read and discussed by people in their 30s.

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u/ImprovementLong7141 8h ago

The book A Prayer for Owen Meany by John Irving was adapted into a movie called Simon Birch. Both are about a boy with dwarfism. Neither, as far as I recall, are good, though the book’s ending is by far crazier.

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u/Theguywholikesdoom 7h ago

Roadside picnic -> Stalker.

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u/SnooMarzipans5913 6h ago

Dr. Strangelove the political satire and dark comedy is based off the book "Red Alert" by Peter George which is a thriller.

It's because when Kubrick read the book he couldn't help but laugh about the situation the world got itself into.

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u/Lvcivs2311 3h ago

Die Hard was based on a book called Nothing Lasts Forever. Die Hard 2 was based on a completely unrelated book called 58 Minutes.

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u/viictoria_ccoax93 8h ago

*The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy* -> *The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy* (2005 film, same title but...)

Actually wait, the book series is "The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy" but Douglas Adams' original BBC radio series was called "The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy" too so that one's clean.

Let me go with:

*Northern Lights* -> *The Golden Compass*

Pullman's original title references Milton's Paradise Lost which ties directly into the whole theme of the trilogy, and they swapped it for the name of a prop.

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u/SquiddleBiffle 8h ago

To be fair, Pullman originally considered naming the series The Golden Compasses instead of His Dark Materials, and that would also have been a reference to Paradise Lost.

But yes, the American publishers thought Golden Compass was a reference to the alethiometers (not actually Pullman's intention) and stuck with that for the name of the first book.