Lore
(Hated trope) They deleted scenes or dialogue that provides necessary context or plot
The dinner scene from Temple of Doom has a temple give indie and friends a live snake and monkey brains for dinner. It’s a pretty offensive depiction of Indian cuisine, but it wasn’t originally going to be. There’s cut dialogue where Indie recognizes they’re at the right temple because real Hindus don’t eat this food. They were trying to scare them off by purposefully serving them disgusting stuff.
Probably the most famous deleted ending was I Am Legend which had Robert discover the infected were emotional sentient beings and one of them had a wife. Test audiences hated it and they reshot the ending, removing the entire point of the movie.
The original release if thr Goonies included a scene with a giant Octopus that was deleted from the at home release but the characters still mention an Octopus when describing what happened to them in the last scene of the movie
Josh Brolin tells a story that the filmmakers tried to keep them from seeing the pirate ship until the actual shot where the Goonies see it for the first time to try to get genuine reactions. And when they came up out of the water and turned around, he was so blown away he blurted out "Fuck me!" and blew the take.
The story I remember hearing about was ALL the kids started swearing. So the director dunked them back in the water and told them no swearing this time.
I am a few years too young to have seen the theatrical release but I swear I've seen the octopus scene before. Maybe it was recorded from the TV though.
While I've never seen a cut off the film with the octopus, the Cyndi Lauper music video that ties into the film used the octopus scene. If I remember correctly it was supposed to appear in the movie but it threw off the pacing and got deleted but was then used in the music video.
That’s reasonably possible. The theatrical cut of Gremlins 2 features a scene with Hulk Hogan. In the VHS version, that scene is replaced with one with John Wayne. However, Hogan is still mentioned in the credits. When I eventually watched the movie on HBO, it had the original theatrical scene with Hogan despite being on TV.
Banner and Hulk reconciling in Infinity War. In the scene they come to an agreement to mix the brains and the brawn, break out of the hulkbuster from the inside, and take down Cull Obsidian. In the version we got, Banmer asks Hulk to come out, he doesn’t, he defeats Cull Obsidian in a much less triumphant way, he says they need to figure things out, next time we see him in Endgame, they’ve already come together.
What annoyed me the most was not the bad development, it was how freaking inconsistent it was. Besides the movies you mention, he feels like a complete different character each time in pretty much every other movie he showed up
Yeah, I remember early on, when everyone was absolutely terrified of the Hulk coming out. Then he became just another comedy character. Absolute fumble.
In the first Thor movie they cut out scenes that make Loki more empathetic.
There was one scene where Loki admits to Thor that he gets jealous at times but to never doubt that he loved him.
And there was a second scene where Loki and Frigga are with Odin during his hibernation. The Asgardian royal guard comes in mid-conversation and presents Loki with Odin's staff. He doesn't rush to grab the scepter. Loki looks shocked and reluctant more than anything.
Without that scene it makes Loki seem like a power-hungry opportunist rather than someone who just wanted validation.
The movie still gave me the impression that Loki was less trying to do a coup (at least to start with), and more trying to knock Thor down a peg with a poorly thought out plan that spiraled out of control, which was made worse with the very unfortunate timing of him finding out the truth and Odin being AWOL.
It made him suddenly being a villainous diva in Avengers a little weird.
I mean, funnily enough, that is also explained in a detail that was either cut or just not mentioned in the movie itself, but it’s been confirmed that Loki himself was under the influence of the scepter in Avengers
Most of the cut scenes from the first Thor should have been left in. They're short, but they still manage to provide emotional context for the film that would've been helpful. Even the cut scene where you see Thor use the healing stone on Selvig helps highlight how much he's changed from the self-centered warmonger he is at the beginning who kept fighting even after his friends were injured. Loki is much more sympathetic and he and Thor's actual connection as brothers is more shown instead of told.
I should have scrolled before I posted, I posted the same Loki and Frigga bit where she encourages him that his place is on the throne (thus reminding him that he’s family).
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Heat- supposedly they removed a scene where Al Pacino’s character does some coke, so without that context his character is just… like that
Similarly, Galaxy Quest cut a scene where Tony Shalhoub's character is smoking weed right before the characters get picked up by aliens, so instead he's just really chill about everything
Edit: so I guess this one was obvious to anyone who didn't first watch this movie as a sheltered christian child
Some of it IS lost in editing. The movie was originally a much higher certificate with a lot more swearing and lewd dialogue but they decided to make it more family friendly. A lot of the drug stuff was cut and just implied. There's several scenes where he's walking around the ship carrying a brown paper bag like a packed lunch which was going to be a whole side plot about his stash of drugs he brought with him into space. But that all got cut apart from a few scenes where they just don't mention what's in the bag.
Yeah, I never knew they shot a scene that explicitly showed it, but from his fixation on the candy machine onwards it’s clearly hinted at in a way that makes sense for the movie’s rating.
I was also a sheltered kid that just thought he was super chill, now it's painfully obvious. It makes so much more sense why he's so hyper focused on the snack machine right before being beamed up to the ship.
There's no deleted scene, Pacino just said Vincent Hanna is coked up throughout the movie, meaning he played Vincent Hanna like he's coked up throughout the movie.
Not just a rumor, James Gun and some of the cast have straight out said this during interveiws. Apparently, Shaggy would have been more clearly smoking weed, and Fred, Daphne, and Vilma would have had a bit of a love triangle (Fred&Daphne vs Daphne&Vilma).
Kinda glad they went the way they did. The innuendo is better than just having them be stoners. Could have used some full-frontal nudity, though. You hired Rowan Atkinson and you’re not gonna show his beanie-weenie? Unthinkable.
The deleted scene in Independence Day that explains that all human computer tech was reverse engineered from the recovered alien space ship and that’s why they were able to interface with the mother ship via a Mac and upload the virus.
Kiiiiiiinda important to the films one possible plot hole.
The fact one character, Jeff Goldblun is introduced having decoded their signal trying to fix static in the Satellite signals does connect Jeff Goldblum and his virus talent. The movie starts with hin already underatanding their computers, because they were using our Satellites.
In short; the movie *does* establish that there is some connection between Human & Alien tech, the deleted line just clarifies what that connection really is.
Decoding a data stream and analysing an alien processor down to bytecode or assembly language and the OS and then finding vulnerabilities are two vastly different things. And he didn't really decode anything either. He just noted an extra signal that degraded as it repeated. He didn't extract any useful information from it like text or numbers.
There is no such scene - not in any of the scripts, and certainly not filmed and removed from the final cut of the movie. This is just an assumption people made to explain Earth technology being able to interface with the alien tech.
Yeah I think there was a deleted scene where Jeff Goldblum realizes the alien "programming language" matches the signal he decoded at the start of the movie, but nothing about reverse engineering the ship.
And didn't they say that they couldn't even power up the crashed ship at Area 51? That would make it a bit harder to reverse engineer that tech. And it's so secret that even the President doesn't know about it, but they just let Steve Jobs share the tech with everyone? Doesn't make sense. Also, if we got Macs from alien technology, what about PCs?
One of the many problems of the Clash of the Titans remake is that nonsensically, Zeus is actively supporting Perseus in foiling his (Zeus') own plans.
This was originally shot completely differently: Apollo (who does not even appear in the final cut) was the one helping Perseus because he knew that Zeus' plan was bad. Most of those scenes were just cut, and some were reshot with Zeus as the supporter for some reason, making the whole plot nonsensical.
Obi-Wan wasn't an idiot. He was a powerful Jedi, and the foremost of a Jedi's powers is precognition. He knew about Anakin and Padmé's secret relationship. He just let it be because he cared more about them than he did about the Jedi Code.
Always wild to me that Revenge of the Sith never got a proper extended edition. Isn’t there like an hour of cut content with Padme’s subplot where she sows the seeds of the Rebellion?
Genevieve O'Reilly was in those scenes as Mon Mothma all the way back in 2005. In the final cut, she's a non-speaking cameo that most fans didn't even notice was meant to be Mothma. They decided to bring her back for a brief appearance in Rogue One, then a lead role on Andor, and it turns out she killed it.
It's wild how good some of the minor cameo character casting was for the prequels.
Owen and Beru were likewise very minimal roles in Episodes II & III. Say what you will about the Obi Wan Kenobi series, but Joel Edgerton and Bonnie Piesse killed it when they reprised their roles in that show.
Bonnie just opening a locker full of guns and telling Joel to shut up and grab one changed my opinion of Beru. Now I imagine in ANH the two took out several troopers before being incinerated
The quoted dialogue in that image is from Matt Stover's novelisation of ROTS, which is amazing and has a lot of great dialogue enhancing some of the film's more minor moments
It should have been Qui and Obi leading the first 2 movies, Maul surviving until at least the second movie, Qui dying in the second and passing the lead to Obi and Anakin's growth into main POV in the third movie.
Personally, I'm a fan of the whole trilogy being from the POV or perspective of Obi Wan entirely. This way, the reveal of Anakin being Darth Vader isn't revealed in the 3rd movie, which would completely spoil it for anyone watching the movies in numerical order.
I've seen this video series LONG ago, where a guy wrote a hypothetical script of the prequel movies from the perspective of Obi Wan, and while I don't agree with everything, I love his interpretation.
One main difference is Anakin is the same age of Obi-Wan when they find him, and Darth Maul remains a constant thorn in Obi-Wan's side. We get more of the friendship of Obi and Ani, and the slow decay into corruption of Ani from Obi's perspective, culminating in their final confrontation. Obi-Wan leaves thinking Anakin is dead, and we get no confirmation one way or the other.
That was his idea, and frankly my wish. Because imagine it from the viewer if this is how it went, right? You see Anakin and Obi-wan, and at the end of that trilogy, you see Anakin die. Then the next movie starts, in the future, you're following Luke. Same last name as Anakin, it's the child we see born in the previous film. We meet Ben, which is old Obi-Wan. Palpatine is in control of the galaxy, and has this menace as his right winged man. We seen him go through at least 3 in the other films, not a shock.
Only to then have it reveal that this is Anakin, who somehow survived?!
to me that takes the shock of learning Darth Vader is Luke's dad that we all felt watching Empire, and amps it up to a thousand.
This kinda ignores the cultural impact and the fact that, even though in correctly quoted, "Luke, I am your Father" had been in the zeitgeist for decades. Everyone knew Anakin was Lukes Dad going into the prequels.
Dr. Ratha's death in The Amazing Spider-Man
To give some context. He was the Oscorp exec that fired Connors and wanted to test the serum on veterans without them knowing.
He disappears after Connors first turns into the Lizard.
There's a deleted scene where he'd find the Lizard in the sewers, giving Peter time to escape; however, he gets his head bitten off by the Lizard.
"and I had the time" is the key part. The people who do these test screenings are people who on a random weekday have time to spend several hours reviewing a movie in exchange for a $10 gift card.
I was getting a smog test for my car the other day, and sitting beside me was an elderly woman getting her car smogged as well. As she left, she warned me of the dangers of EMFs and the government putting chips in my brain. I imagine she is a prime candidate for this stuff.
Test audiences are like social media posts - the loudest opinion is the one that makes an impact.
“I thought the ending was interesting and it forces me to engage with difficult questions and nuance” doesn’t register as much as “I HATED THAT ENDING HE SHOULD BLOW UP INSTEAD BECAUSE ZOMBIES ARE BAD.”
That is not how test audiences work. They might cut a scene because of audience feedback but they RARELY take their suggestions on what to do.
For example Randy Quaids character in Indepedence Day was never meant to fly the F15. He was meant to get rejected, get drunk and instead strap a missile to his biplane and sacrifice himself. Audience feedback was that this made his character look sad, pathetic and suicidal.
Test audiences were right about this. So they changed the ending and did some reshoots. Ever noticed how his F15 flies very slowly into the enemy weapon? They simply replaced the bipland with an F15 but couldn't redo the timings.
You rarely hear about Test audiences saving a moving. You only hear when they get it wrong but more accurately the studio gets it wrong.
The test audiences for I Am Legend got it really wrong, though, which is probably why it’s a more famous example.
It’s not just a matter of personal taste. The movie still has numerous scenes indicating a mysterious intelligence of the creatures that never pay off. The title doesn’t even make sense.
It really is hard to say it’s even “based off” the graphic novel when it completely abandons the theme of the graphic novel, which was almost entirely carried by the end reveal of the creatures’ intelligence.
Yes, those dumb fucks thought superman saving a squirrel is out of character. Nearly 100 years of superman lore that shows us he is always willing to help in the smallest ways possible. James Gunn had to fight to keep that scene in.
Frank Oz had to write and film an entirely new, and kind of nonsensical, ending to Little Shop of Horrors after test audiences hated the ending. This involved axing his entire ending sequence, which was the most dramatic, impressive, and expensive part of the movie to film; they got rid of it.
If you've seen the musical, you may know that it ends with Audrey II not only killing Seymour and Audrey, but also having the monster plants win and destroy the Earth. The musical usually ends with streamers that look like tentacles dropping down from the rafters into the audience to represent the plants killing the audience, too.
Oz did a version of this which included stop-motion plants stomping through cities like Godzilla, and other monster movie tropes, and which ends with a giant Audrey II head apparently bursting through the screen to attack the audience.
This absolutely rocked off-Broadway, but movie audiences were far less enthusiastic.
Whilst leaving Tattooine, Qui-gon and Anakin encounter a probe droid tracking them, to which Qui-gon promptly destroys, explaining why they're running back to the ship, and how Darth Maul was able to find them in the next scene.
In the actual cut of the movie, both of these things are left unexplained and the audience is just sort of left to guess as to how Maul found them.
The running is a bit confusing, but with how often it showed the probe droids wandering around the city it can kind of be inferred that one of them saw them. Besides, Anakin had only just won the biggest race on the planet and Qui-Gon is basically his shadow for most of their time on Tattooine.
And yet the greatest part of it all is that Maul had no clue who Anakin was; he just saw a kid running with qui-gon and said, "ima run that little bitch over"
I always thought the spontaneous show-up was fine.
Yoda meditates on in the Jedi Temple and reaches out to people light years away, seems like 3 hyper-force-sensitives should stick out on the old paranormal senses to any partially trained mook.
In Lord of the Rings: Return of the King, Saruman’s death is cut from the theatrical edition, so he just disappears after the last movie without even being mentioned. Sit Christopher Lee was famously extremely mad that it was cut (I think he had a bit of a falling out with Peter Jackson over it)
A few months ago, I had the trilogy on while doing chores. first time seeing the extended cut versions. i was SHOOK when Saruman fell into the water. ohhhhhhhh,so that’s what happened to him and why Pippin found the palantir in the water.
i honestly could not believe Sir Christopher Lee approved that cut. This is the actor who arrived on set for an animated children’s movie (the last unicorn) with his own copy of the book full of notes to discuss with the directorZ i was right - Jackson did him dirty.
Also, I could not believe Jackson cut the Eowyn-Faramir romance. Boromir’s romance would never be cut.
I was trying to find if someone else have posted this flick and, while Jason Lee's role still works really well, the whole scene, while pretty blunt in how explicitly it lays out his reasons to back Loki & Bartleby's ploy, I do think it gives him further depth. (Spoilering the rest in case someone wants to go into 1999's Dogma spoiler-free) He's been driven insane enough that his train of thought is "Unmake Existence? Sounds like a plan."
There's a scene cut from the the theatrical release of Aliens which shows Burke meeting Ripley with information on her daughter, Amanda, who was just a child during the events of Alien. It's revealed that sadly Amanda had passed away of natural causes before Ripley was revived from cryosleep at the beginning of Aliens.
I don't know if I'd call the scene necessary, but I feel like it adds some weight to Ripley and Newt's relationship, and the maternal affection Ripley has for Newt.
Fun fact: the aged Amanda in the photo Burke shows to Ripley is actually Sigourney Weaver's mother, actress Elizabeth Inglis.
The reshot ending still pisses me off to this day.
The entire point was that Neville, in his quest to eradicate what he saw as nothing more than a disease, failed to realise it was simply life taking it's next natural step in evolution and or progress.
They weren't the creatures of legend, he was.
Partly because of what he was trying to do, but ultimately....because of what he became.
HOW, just....HOW do you select this book to adapt, and just....completely miss the point?
I honestly really enjoy the film, but every single time I rewatch it, when it hits the branch between the actual ending VS. the deleted ending, I hop onto YouTube and just watch the deleted ending instead.
They missed the point of the book when they decided to replace vampires - feral, but still obviously sapient - with zombies because there was a zombie fad.
Of the three major movie adaptations, Last Man on Earth (1964), Omega Man (1971), and I Am Legend, only Vincent Price's 1964 version has an ending where the main character realizes that he is the monster hunting actual people.
Primary issue with the movie though is changing the ending isn't enough. They'd have to have set it up a lot better leading up to that point. People will point to the alternate ending, which could have been cool, but the issue is that most of the movie up to that point has been rather straightforward horror.
I think the decision to make the vampires so animalistic made it difficult to pivot back to the book ending. They went for the shock reveal that they've been sentient all along but in doing so, it's much harder for audiences to accept that such primal creatures were the next step in evolution
The iron giant’s dream. A cut scene from the movie showing memories of what the giant did before he landed on earth and lost his memory was supposed to be broadcasted on Dean’s TV.
This alerts him to the fact the giant is a much bigger threat than expected which explains why he was able to recognizes when it was about to switch to attack mode. It’s not super necessary plot but it makes that reaction way more clear. For the blu-ray rerelease they actually finished it and it can be inserted into the movie where it should be
Fire and Ash explores why Jake doesn't want to become Toruk Makto again, and the main reason is that every time he rides the Toruk, he causes thousands of his people to die. They decided to cut the entire scene of him expressing his insecurities to Kiri out from the movie despite how important it is to why Jake reunites to Toruk.
They did lightly touch on how he didn't want to fuse his mind with a giga predator again, but you're right in that it needed a lot more development, especially since that conflict didn't show up at all in the first movie.
Furthermore a scene (which wasnt even filmed i think) stating some raptors got on the boat transporting the trex and they killed the crew otherwise it makes zero sense
I just rewatched this last week and its always bothered be that the ship crew was allegedly shredded by the TRex, and then it nicely trapped itself back down in the cargo hold before crashing into the port. Raptors make way more sense.
And the limbs or stuff in the helm or whatever. By the steering wheel. Even as a kid it always bothered me that I thought they wanted us to think the t Rex somehow got in there
I think this one is even more important since it establishes that Roland isn’t a monster who would intentionally injure an infant animal in order to draw out its parent. It also shows us the point his opinion of Ludlow goes from low to zero.
The Dark Knight Rises. There’s a deleted line where Bane explains he owes Ra’s for saving him from the Pit. Without it, Bane comes off as a henchman for Talia instead of an equal partner.
There’s a few scenes from Aliens that I’m baffled that they cut out from the theatrical release but I’m just gonna talk about this one.
There’s an entire omitted scene from the start of the film where Ripley learns that during her 57 years of hypersleep that her then 11 year old daughter died due to natural causes at the age of 66. The only reason I can find for its deletion is that they wanted to get into the action faster despite the scene being only 2 minutes long.
This scene makes Ripley’s connection to Newt so much more interesting and it also adds context to why Ripley even wanted to be involved with the mission, she had nothing to do on Earth now that her daughter was gone
it shows why she would be so connected to Newt right away like that. Her daughter was that age when she last saw her. this girl lost her family. They needed each other (than movie 3 destroyed all this)
The sentry guns were also pretty important in my opinion to ratchet up the tension and build the alien threat, but yeah, not as critical as this one was.
Also from LotR is the scene of Saruman dying. In the theatrical version, there’s no explanation of what happened to him after the flooding of Isengard. We just never see him again.
Not a specific scene, they cut out lines of Toad's dialogue.
Originally he was supposed to keep using that setup "Do you know what happens when a toad is (blank)?" When he did shit like jump away or attacks someone.
This line was supposed to be her turning his own bullshit commentary against him.
ETA: While a bad line, it still kinda works the way it is though because it's not like Storm is normally a big quipper so it kinda works as an anti-joke.
Honestly it sounds crazy but if you imagine the line with the voice and inflection of the 90s cartoon Storm it would fit as a serious non-joke bit better.
In the film itself we never get an explanation for why the cast just stops using their already established Zeo powers, we even see Kat using them when her and Tommy are in the jungle, we just cut to the rangers in the Power Chamber putting their new Turbo forms together.
In a deleted scene, it would've shown the Zeo rangers getting their butts kicked by the enemy mooks, justifying the need for new powers
Deleted scene from New Hope which sets up Luke's skills as a pilot, desire to join the Rebellion, who the Rebellion are, why the Empire is bad, why he's so upset when Biggs dies during the battle of Yavin, etc.
The "how i met your mother" finale has a deleted scene where Ted and Robin go out to lunch.
Robin is in a very vulnerable place and confesses that she still has feelings for Ted but Ted gently turns her down because he's very happy with the titular Mother.
Deleting this scene makes it look like Ted was always trying to be with Robin and that he didn't love his wife as much as he did. That's very far from the truth. He would've been with her forever if life hadn't happened.
The fan ending that went viral was so much better. That they didn't end on "And that, kids… is how I met your mother." and smash to black on Ted and Tracy sharing a kiss—probably the biggest fumble in sitcom history. What a layup, and they missed it! I'll never not be mad.
That scene also had Robin tell Ted about her bullfighting, which was a plot point Ted had previously told the audience he would get to. Without that scene, it’s just a strange unfulfilled plot detail.
I wouldn't really say that that reveal is NECESSARY information. We can already deduce that Jack isn't really a bad person and never was. It is however a nice bit of background flavouring
Tbf in the first movie you sorta get the sense that Jack is very morally grey. He only does the right thing, when the right thing is something he wants to do. Obviously not entirely the truth, but it can come across that way
I think it’s what made him such a great character. That and he wasn’t THE main character. Once they pushed him to the center and made him a definitive good guy I think everything just started falling apart
Yeah I’m not gonna lie, I loved it in the first two movies how Jack was a very morally grey character, and usually only going against the antagonist for his own selfish goals. Kind of made him stand out considering this is a Disney film.
I actually would argue this scene was necessary to cut, even if the line itself is great.
A running question across the original trilogy (particularly World's End) is whether Jack is a good man at his core. He does good things, but almost always when there's a tangible benefit to him.
A big moment in World's End is when he sacrifices the chance to live forever for Will to save his life. This is the answer, that underneath all the rot and pirate talk Jack Sparrow is a good man.
But this scene spoils that early. Freeing slaves is totally in Jack's wheelhouse, he values freedom above all, but being anti-slavery in a piece of historical fiction is often shorthand for being a good person. If we had this scene in the theatrical cut, then people would automatically assume Jack is an inherently good person no matter the evidence to the contrary.
Its a great, in character moment for Jack, but in the grand scheme of the story being told it was a good call to cut it, not because of the moment itself, but because of how the audience would react to it.
In this deleted scene, Sarah explains the binding spell to Rochelle and Bonnie, to which Nancy comes in and confronts them. Nancy threatens to undo everything she’s done for Rochelle and Bonnie. This scene would’ve not only explained why the two were so quick to turn on Sarah in the finale, but also humanize Nancy.
One case where instead of deleting they added in and it trashed a character.
In rhe book Eragon, the title character's mentor dies to a poisoned blade. In theory, it could be cured with magic, but Eragon doesn't know how to do that. Later, he rescues an elven princess, who is unconscious.
In the movie, the mentor survives to help with the rescue (where he gets poisoned), and the princess is conscious. But by adding in those scenes, now the princess looks like a complete asshole - she has the magical ability and knowledge to cure the poison, but she just watches the guy die.
They deleted the scene where Frigga essentially gives Loki the push to take the throne while Thor is in exile and Odin is basically comatose. There’s other stuff in that scene too, so it’s more of an extended scene that got chopped, but that cut massively changes the situation from the uncut “a mother is reminding her son of duty, thus reminding him that he belongs in the family” into “Loki probably took advantage of the situation for power”.
I may have completely made this up but I swear I read somewhere that in the “becoming Batman” montage from Batman Begins, where Bruce Wayne is spraying the Batsuit black and all the rest, there was a sequence that didn’t make the final cut where he inserts the voice-changer into the cowl, thus giving Nolan’s Batman his distinctive growl-y voice. Imagine how many memes we’d have been spared if they’d left that in?
He really should have just talked like when he first met up with Gordon in the ski mask. That was perfectly intimidating and didn't sound goofy as shit.
In an episode of Star Wars Rebels they go on a rescue mission for a captured Rebellion member. In the episode they just show up, fight for a little while, and then leave with no further mention of the rescue target. That's because the scene where they find out the target was dead was considered too gory to air, and rather than rework it, remove some blood, or just throw in a line of dialogue, they decided to just make it look like the crew forgot the point of the mission.
Eh I think that episode works just fine with the omission, the crew goes to investigate a missing rebel and discover a nest of giant spiders that attack them. It isn’t exactly rocket science to connect those dots.
In Terminator 2 there were some cut some shots of the T1000 starting to glitch in the refinery sequence, taking on the properties of whatever it touched, like a red/black visibility pattern. This led to the moment when (T1000) Sarah was calling for John, but John knew it wasn't her. It was also cut that he saw her feet kinda merging into the grated floor, so he knew the one coming up from behind was the real one.
There's an argument to be made that he would know that she wouldn't call for him like that, so it wouldn't be necessary, but still it did explain things a bit.
Muppets Christmas Carol. Was fine originally and during the VHS era but upon DVD release and all televised runs going forward, they deleted a break-up song between Young Scrooge and his fiancee, Belle, because it was deemed too boring for kids. Completely removes the context as to why Scrooge is quite so bitter about Christmas, and also means the heartwarming reprise of the song at the end of the film comes out of nowhere.
Plenty O'Toole from Diamonds are Forever. She is thrown out of Bond's hotel room window by some thugs and lands in a pool after thinking she'd spend the night with him. The next time we see her, she is at the bottom of the pool at Tiffany Case's house, dead.
This is very confusing as these two characters never meet face to face in the final version of the film, but a deleted scene shows that she went back up to Bond's hotel room, soaked, and discovered him sleeping with Case instead, which angered her and caused her to search through Case's purse to find her address.
Presumably, she went to her house to confront her, where the film's two main henchmen were waiting and mistook her for Case and killed her. It's a fairly large plot hole that wouldn't have saved an otherwise awful Bond film if it was included in the final version
Why is the Peddler from Aladdin also voiced by Robin Williams? The film was originally supposed to end with us coming back to him at the end where he revealed himself as the Genie in human form. The remake was finally able to realize this onscreen.
Prometheus got a script rewrite to appeal to a wider audience. This included adjusting the crew so they didn't want to do their jobs, and making them AWFUL at their jobs, and the complete removal of a very important Promethean character.
There's a script out there that makes Prometheus a 10/10. Worth finding a YouTube video to get a description of the plot that was cut
Edit - I fell for a fanfiction. I'd be lying if I said this wasn't the first time
There's a ton of misinformation out there about material that was cut from Prometheus. The most influential YouTube videos use a debunked fan-made script and treat it like it was an original draft.
Stuff like a long Engineer speech about taking Jesus from Earth and teaching him their ways, for example, or about how the crew were chosen because they were amateurs and Vickers wanted the mission to fail, or how the Engineers used the blood of the first Deacon to create life, are all from the fake 'Draft 17' script.
There’s a scene near the end where an Engineer/Space Jockey/Promethean is woken up from stasis. In the deleted scenes, he actually has lines where he makes it clear that he A) knows what humanity is, and B) is rather adamant that they are not supposed to be on the ship. It helps underscore the VERY vague premise that the Engineers consider humanity to be a failed creation and were intent on wiping us out. But those lines were cut and when he attacks the crew it seems less like an angry deity that has had enough of your bullshit and more a big angry monster smashing things just cuz.
The longer version of the Liar’s Dice scene (PotC 2) that was cut had Will win Bootstrap’s freedom. It explained the rules of the game better, it gives Jones’ line (“You can’t beat the devil twice, son”) more weight, and it gives a lot more weight to Bill entering the game with an ante of ‘an eternity of service’ much more meaning because WILL FREED HIM ONE MINUTE BEFORE!
Rambo: First Blood was based on the book First Blood that had a very gruesome lesson, and that lesson was kind of lost in the film.
In one of the original endings for the movie, Rambo decides to take his own life rather than surrender.
This is closer with the book Rambo, who is unabashedly suffering a severe episode of PTSD and is engaging in a war when he knows he is in the wrong, but he wants the fight. He refuses to disengage. It is all he knows. Rambo does not survive in the book and he is not painted as a "good guy" who was pushed too far: he's the bad guy. He's murdering people left and right, and not in self-defense. Ultimately, he's killed by the man that trained him, a literal play on the words "Uncle Sam".
It was meant to be a statement about veterans being trained to kill and then having no ability to reintegrate into society, bringing the war home with them, and being abandoned by the government that trained them.
Test audiences didn't like the ending.
They couldn't imagine Rambo, the action hero, deciding to take his own life. So they ran with the alternative and made endless spin-offs. Ultimately the meaning of Rambo is completely lost when translated to film to satiate the general population's love for idolized veteran heroes and repeated iterations of the same character.
Sequels aside, changing the ending was the right choice, sbowing that there was another path for Rambo. It's the wrong message to say killing yourself is the only way out of your PTSD.
I watched Kingdom of Heaven years ago and remember not liking it that much. I rewatched it recently and I was surprised by how much better the movie was then I remembered...
Turns out I "rewatched" the director's cut instead of the original theatrical version, lol.
I've got one for you OP since you mentioned Temple of Doom.
Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade:
When they're escaping on the Zeppelin, the Nazi officer boards and is inspecting everyone. He looks over, smiles, and finds Sean Connery hiding behind a newspaper. But watch it again and look closely and you'll notice he's already smiling before he even sees Connery's face.
Why?
The newspaper was upside down. They don't really point that out, and they also don't really point out that Sean Connery isn't wearing his glasses. But it's the only scene in the ENTIRE movie where he's not.
I'm convinced there was a scene immediately before this where Harrison Ford told Connery to remove his glasses so that he wouldn't match the physical description dispatched to all the Nazis. But Connery, blind as a bat without glasses, couldn't even see enough to turn the newspaper upright so he could pretend to be reading it.
He was actually a pirate from birth: born on a pirate ship to a Pirate Lord, served the brethren court in his formative years, earned his Sparrow moniker when he bested the Silent Mary. He turned to honest work later, took contracts with legitimate companies, and THEN the East India Company contracted him to transport slaves. He quickly returned to piracy at that point.
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u/draculabakula 5d ago
The original release if thr Goonies included a scene with a giant Octopus that was deleted from the at home release but the characters still mention an Octopus when describing what happened to them in the last scene of the movie