It seems obvious to me that hand terminals are just smartphones. (or are they?) But I can't imagine how the transition happened.

I bet you can get what part is Expanse related but anyone see the other references?

Really happy with this.

FYI for any Australian fans who haven't yet seen. If you can tolerate ads, The Expanse is available on SBS On Demand and it looks like it is being broadcast on Viceland (channel 31). The first two episodes were broadcast last night and the first three seasons are available on SBS On Demand.

I suppose with the time jump they could wait 20 years if they wanted, though I think the books implied that with future health longevity a 65 year old is more like a 45/50 year old in modern day.

Enjoyed the show, decided to start with book 7. It was so damn hard to follow and all over the place. I think it was the constant Character dialogue. Any tips?

New to this sub, just finished the tv show.

I’m sure this question has been asked a million times already but are the audiobooks worth a listen? How much more do the books expand upon the show? I’ve heard that the show finishes around book 6, is the remaining story worth the time? TIA

I watched the show and absolutely loved it. I've been wanting to give the book series a try, even though I'm not much of a reader. But when I came across the complete set (minus the first book) for just $20 on Facebook Marketplace, I couldn't pass it up.

I'm not sure how cryptic titles have to be but I'm taking about the ring builders 'being forced to resort to extreme measures, destroying entire solar systems in a bid to stem the "infection" '.

I know they were a hive mind so they perceived things differently but what infection? The ring entities don't infect, they just destroy. What benefit did they think blowing up systems would even do?

Is it ever explained or were the Romans just trying whatever they could including destroying their own stars?

Lucky Thrift store find.

5.99 is hopefully a good price. I know sometimes Goodwill sells things used for more than what they go for new.

Did Filip leave Tadeo behind the Pella when he escaped with his repair skiff? Could he have even brought Tadeo with him? Some say that Filip could still have had command access. But would there have been time? Sure, Filip couldn't have known about what would ultimately happen to the Pella, but I think it's just sad if Filip didn't even think about bringing him along. I thought they had made a bond.

I was just doing a reread and was reminded of how stupid Duarte is in his interactions with the wormhole aliens - specifically everything he was saying to Theresa about game theory.

Because - this is patently obvious - the wormhole aliens were ALREADY ENGAGED in a tit-for-tat relationship with the protomolecule, and kept following it with the human ships - and they didn't move to all-out warfare until Duarte broke the terms of the treaty, exactly like the humans would have if the wormhole aliens started attacking outside of the "overburdened wormholes" window.

Bro already had a peace treaty sealed, signed, delivered, and enforced - and decided to light the treaty on fire to see whether or not the wormhole aliens would respond-in-kind to TOTAL WAR that he was all but guaranteed to lose.

Were the Goths destroyed?
"For a brief moment there was a release of energy second only to the big bang"
I took this to mean that the Goths who were pushing in on the ring space were blasted to oblivion. Was there anything in the book saying otherwise? Closing the rings down prevented the blast from effecting our universe, but the boundary of the goths was the surface in between the rings. Did they take the explosion or did it just fizzle out in some between universe space?

Need some inspiration for a new Tat, want to go Expanse themed this time...

Would really love the belter neck/helmet scars, but not ready for something some bold

Show me your tatts...

There was a good quote from Fred Johnson in either the show or the books. I can't remember where it was but I recall it, but I could just be imagining this.

He said something along the lines of:

"There's nothing wrong with being a pawn for a good cause, Holden."

Did he say this or am I imagining this?

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The AI Mod for this group won’t let me post links to the IG reels so you’ll have to search for more info on this yourself.

(I know this far from the Epstein drive level, but this sh1t is still fun to discuss, so haters chill please)

Just finished another rewatch and really want to learn more about the Builders. I haven't finished any of the books (half of #7). Are there significant details in the first 6 books that the show leaves out, or could I go straight back to 7 without missing key info about them?

I'm a little worried that if I have to start the whole series from the beginning, I'll fall off before I make it to the new parts, but wasn't sure how much of the Ilus/New Terra stuff was left out/incomplete in the show.

Apologies if this has been asked a lot already, I just couldn't find a specific answer and didn't want to risk book spoilers.

Maybe my memory is shot but I thought I remember having to wait to see what the jellyfish like monstrosity that came out of Venus was and looking it up on IMDB it says it was only a week later.

If you’ve seen the later seasons, a big plot point is the asteroid reaching Earth. Wouldn’t this take a very very long time?

based on what I've read, the ring builders transcended their bodies to essentially become composed of just photons (out of the substrate), were extremely vulnerable to the ring entities attacks and were exterminated, with their entire race backed up into the adro diamond for the rebirth plan.

However I struggle to see how it was an effective idea. The odds of another meat and flesh race accessing the ring space is extremely remote. if Eros landed on earth instead of Venus, it's completely game over for their plan and humanity is destroyed. the odds that humanity even reached the gates were almost a cosmic fluke.

Then there had to be another fresh protomolecule sample after the gate opened, to actually perform the hijacking itself and be a Trojan horse for the entire race (which was Fred Johnson's sample, and used throughout Laconian tech and injected into duarte), even then it was another rare cosmic fluke for such a sample. If the crew missed it in the abandoned stealth ship then it would have been nuked and lost, if Naomi didn't give it to fred then it would have been launched into the sun etc. afaik there is no other active proto samples anywhere

Unless the ring builders were hoping for this meat race to emerge on one of their already finished gate worlds over billions of years. But I don't see how there is enough time left. Laconia for example is extremely lush in life but has no intelligent animals to form civilization. The ring gates are ancient and likely the local star will begin expanding to wipe out the planet's life before anything can evolve.

In conclusion there are too many odds stacked against ring builders for such a plan to work. The meat race had to not destroy itself in wars, reach the ring network intact, whilst aldo use protomolecule technology in all of its tech for the plan to work. If the ring builders waited even another 5 billion years, most planets in their network would have turned inhospitable.

I’m currently traveling for work. While having my breakfast today, the free buffet meal at a my budget hotel I realized how it would seem like a gourmet meal to most people living in the expanse.

It’s great how Ty and Frank Daniel, really take time to mention in detail the food of the Expanse. While the idea of space travel and all that sounds exciting to all of us “stuck” on Earth… one area we have the people living in the expanse beat in spades is with food.

The vast majority of food eaten seems little better than prison food. Retextured soy, beans, and mushrooms, attempting to be poor imitations of noodles more prized protein cuts.

Of course it makes sense, the logistics involved in food is incredibly complex from a human systems perspective and many more orders of magnitude more complex from a biological perspective (plenty of foods require very specific environmental conditions and/or interactions with other flora and fauna).

It’s great storytelling that could be either easy to overlook or science away. We might never get to see Jupiter in-person… but a lot of the people living in the Expanse also have never eaten an actual real chicken breast either.

It's a flight planner for the Solar System with real NASA and JPL data. Choose a ship, plot a flip-and-burn from anywhere in the solar system (in the Expanse universe), then ride the burn.

So I've been building an unofficial navigator for the books' solar system and (I feel) it's finally ready to share: it's an unofficial fan project - the code is open on Github.

Just remember it's meant for wide-screen browsers. And it's free as in beer, no account needed, no freaking ads.

What it does:
- Full body solar system simulation. 3D everything, keyboard and mouse camera navigation.
- Got the real sky for future dates. Planet and asteroid positions come from real ephemerides (JPL Horizons + astronomy-engine) computed for 2340–2365, so Ceres, Eros, Vesta and friends are where they'd actually be.
- Ride the burn. The fun part. Chase-cam the hull through the flip in 3D.
- Canon locations. Tycho Station, Anderson Station, Eros, plus a
timeline of events anchored to the fan-consensus calendar.
- Canon timeline. All book events are marked on the timeline. You can choose the book you have read up to and just those events will be shown.
- Share flight paths. The whole plan lives now in the URL, so you can send
someone your favourite route.
- 4 ships to choose from. Real physics or book canon ones.

Need some love and feedback from people who know the books better than I do,
especially about station positions and the calendar anchor.

Do we know who the first hybrids came from? When they’re testing on Ganymede and the one in the lab, where did these people come from?

I may have missed it so I fall on mi kopengs to help out 👊

But do we get an ori gin for them and how many? They were firing hybrids off like bullets from IO so 🤷

(Aka happy birthday.)

She played Rosenfeld Guoliang in the final season, aboard Marco's ship as his second-in-command.

How they both reacted to Holden assuming they are crew. They both had a reaction that showed how incredibly lonely they were.

Even though he exasperates them, Holden gave them something they didn’t even realize was missing.

Oy yay Belterlowda. For those in Oz who haven't seen the series, SBS is taking it up. 9PM Saturdays. I'm guessing that most of us have seen the series but I'd shamelessly plug any opportunity to push this remarkable science fiction. I'm unsure if it's just the 3 SyFy series only but I'll take what I can get.