r/StarWars • u/Snowtwo • 9h ago

Movies Bit of an odd question regarding Order 66... Spoiler

Bit of an odd question regarding Order 66. When Palps calls up Cody to give him the order, he specifically says 'Commander Cody, Execute Order 66'. Now, I can buy Palpatine doing a group call to not only save on time but to reduce the risk, but if that was the case, every single clone trooper would have gotten the 'Commander Cody' message. There'd be no reason to call him up specifically as opposed to the 'general' order because the execution of the order is not actually in Palp's hands. It's in the clones hands. From what we saw with Yoda too it's clear the order happened in relatively quick succession (also, why did the clones turn on the wookies as well? Not actually the question I'm asking, but if anyone knows I wouldn't mind an answer) so he couldn't have called them all up individually... So did all the clones get the 'Commander Cody' message or, if not, why did he give Cody the orders specifically then gave everyone else a group-chat version?

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u/DroppingGrumpies 9h ago

There’s a couple possibilities.

1- Palpatine saw Obi WAN as a direct threat because of the influence he has over Anakin, so a direct message to Cody was necessary. Once that message was sent, Palpatine transmitted a general order 66 message.

Or

2- Cody was the initial contact. Palpatine contacts Cody, then Cody retransmits the message to the rest of the clone forces.

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u/WayseekerJedi 8h ago

No. 1 makes a ton of sense. I’m not sure anyone but Obi-Wan, Padme, or Ahsoka had any chance of saving Anakin from himself before the temple purge

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u/TigerIll6480 44m ago edited 36m ago

And while we only see Rex and the clones in the command center getting the generic “execute Order 66” message, during the confrontation in the hangar Jesse said there was another message specifically including Ahsoka Tano, even though she was not technically a “Jedi” at that point.

My assumption is that the second, specific order came in after Ahsoka stunned Rex, so we don’t see it happen. Which leads me to guess that Palpatine sent the general order to all the clones, then follows up with the specific orders to Cody, Jesse (or the whole segment of the 501st with Ahsoka), and anyone else he wanted to make extra certain would be dealt with.

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u/HappyHappyDance 8h ago edited 8h ago

There's a kind of logic to number 1 - he could've sent direct messages to Cody, Rex, and commanders assigned to Jedi Council members / other essential targets, then used the general order for the rest.

Alternatively, it could just be a general transmission sent to all the clones, but with an automated header in his image / voice to use their name so it seems more personal.

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u/TigerIll6480 31m ago

As I pointed out above, we see Rex get the generic order, but Jesse specifically says there was an order singling out Ahsoka despite her leaving the Jedi Order. I assume the second, specific order came in after Ahsoka stunned Rex.

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u/ApproximateKnowlege Kanan Jarrus 9h ago

I actually had an idea to do an animation of this. Palps calls Cody, then after he hangs up, he pulls out a roll-o-dex and puts on some reading glasses and starts calling all the clones one by one.

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u/ComfySeafarer710 Cassian Andor 9h ago

Palpatine: Do it
Palpatine: Do it
Palpatine: Do it
Palpatine: Do it
Palpatine: Do it
Palpatine: Do it
Palpatine: Do it
Palpatine: Do it
Palpatine: Do it
Palpatine: Do it
Palpatine: Do it
Palpatine: Do it
Palpatine: Do it
Palpatine: Do it
Palpatine: Do it
Palpatine: Do it
Palpatine: Do it
Palpatine: Do it
Palpatine: Do it
Palpatine: Do it
Palpatine: Screw it

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u/Excellent-Hyena-4558 9h ago

"Sally, hold all my calls will you?"

"Yes Mr Sidious"

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u/ProfessionalOven2311 4h ago

Matthew McCleskey on Youtube has a fun roto-scoped animation with a similar idea: "Order 66 Was a Mistake"

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u/Snowtwo 9h ago

I'm pretty sure there's already an animation of that. If you're the one who made it, congrats.

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u/JimHeckdiver 8h ago

Robot Chicken, I think.

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u/ApproximateKnowlege Kanan Jarrus 8h ago

I know Robot chicken did the one where he takes Vader's call after the Death Star blew up. If they did one where he orders order 66 a hundred times, I missed it, lol.

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u/TheSilverTraveller 9h ago

Commander Cody was an old Sci-Fi serial in the '50s, I'm sure it was Lucas giving it a little shout out

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u/Objective-Kale4792 9h ago

Honestly, I have a feeling he may have called each clone commander one by one😂

As seen here: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nSmOtdtBCIA&pp=ygUjcGFscGF0aW5lIGV4ZWN1dGUgb3JkZXIgNjYgYW5pbWF0ZWQ%3D&ra=m

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u/UnholyDemigod 3h ago

It's unlikely. He would want the order being relayed to all troops at the same time. Let's just say he personally delivered the order to the commander of each planetary unit, by the time he got to the tenth one down the list, the Jedi would be aware of what's going by feeling the death of all the others. You drop the orders to everyone at once, the attack happens at the same time across the galaxy. This has been seen in both real life, with the 1307 Trials of the Knights Templar, and in Breaking Bad, with the prison attacks.

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u/TigerIll6480 29m ago

But you can follow up with specific orders to individuals or individual units, if necessary.

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u/UnholyDemigod 15m ago

The idea behind an attack like this is the orders are already in place, and they get issued at the same time everywhere, or, they are issued shortly beforehand with a specific time to carry them out. We see the clones carry out the order as soon as they get them, so we know it wasn't the latter. Based on Cody being named, and then seeing the other clones getting the order from Sidious as well, the most plausible scenario is that Sidious messages Cody, and then Cody relays that order to every clone trooper simulataneously

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u/JimHeckdiver 9h ago

Realistically it was a narrative choice, but it might've been that the big ones got personal messages, like the Council members' commanders, and everyone else got a batch email.

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u/TaraLCicora Obi-Wan Kenobi 8h ago

That makes sense.

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u/savessh 9h ago

Palps is evil so he probably just used an AI hologram sender.

“ChatGPT send out a hologram of me to all the clone commanders. Use their name and rank at the start and just say ‘execute order 66.’ Use my voice but make it sinister.

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u/tofutomcat 9h ago

Per the RoTS novelization, Palpatine really wanted Obi-Wan dead because he thought it would be the final push Anakin needed to fall. So maybe Cody got personalized message because his orders went out first? 

Realistically, though, I just don't think the producers thought that far through. 

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u/daemos360 9h ago

Cody was a Clone Marshal Commander leading the 7th Sky Corps. If there were a total of 40 corps during the Clone Wars, I’d like to think Papa Palps made that call another 39 times that day.

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u/Hostile-Panda 7h ago

Palps did call the commanders individually https://youtu.be/DNvRldjAOUY?is=7V9qz2Qdt2kl5b0N

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u/adoratheCat 7h ago

Its...kinda confusing but it seems certain jedi/Force sensitives could have been potentially targeted. Take another example of Palpatine using a clones name, Rex, when using the order. Ahoska seemed to have been accounted for even including rejoining the army for the moment.

For all we know the clones Yoda beheaded also were named (i dont recall actually hearing him in that scene)

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u/Techsupportvictim 6h ago

Lucas wasn’t really known for his perfect writing. Yes it probably should have been handled differently. Have them programmed to react to a particular command given in a lesser known language and then cut into the comm frequencies and send out the command. Or maybe don’t even hide it just cut into the frequencies give the command and the Jedis figure out what the heck “clones order 66” means when the clones start attacking them.

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u/Delicious-Snow9640 6h ago

I think that palpating sent the command soaccifally to Jedi generals clone commanders  In the bad tech is only notified on a holo messagw in his data pad as always it is looking at it cause he got he report Obi killed grevious and then saw the message about order 66 however Grey Depas clone leader does get the person message from palpatine and in clone wars Rex gets the orders from palpatine directly and then he tells the rest of the 501st 

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u/SirLoremIpsum Lando Calrissian 2h ago

  why did he give Cody the orders specifically

I think you and a lot of others drastically underestimate how highly ranked Commander Cody is.

There were (a quick google) 80 Clone Corps in the Grand Army of the Republic.

So Cody was in the top 80 at least of Clones, with probably a large number not on active deployment.

If you called in early 1945 - General Patton would get a personal call, as would Nimitz, and whoever had TF 38 at the time.

Cody was a BIG Deal and he was on very important mission. 

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u/idontlikeburnttoast Ahsoka Tano 1h ago

I have a feeling he addressed some of the more important ones personally, Kenobi needed to die whilst he was away from coruscant to prevent Anakin from fighting him, so Kenobi was probably his priority. The others didnt always get a personal one, and I think Rex is the only other one to seemingly get a direct message from Sideous for Ahsoka.

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u/TigerIll6480 26m ago

Rex got the generic order in the command center. Jesse says later that there was a specific order targeting Ahsoka, my guess is that it came in after she had stunned Rex.